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1. 04:46 AM - Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink (lwinger)
2. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: Re;How about a sliding canopy/ ()
3. 06:51 AM - 601XL with Rotax 912S (alex_01)
4. 06:59 AM - Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink (Maarten Versteeg)
5. 07:22 AM - Re: 601XL with Rotax 912S (Jonathan Starke)
6. 07:31 AM - Re: 601XL with Rotax 912S (NYTerminat@aol.com)
7. 07:35 AM - ELSA registration (Robert Schoenberger)
8. 07:52 AM - Re: OSH (Gig Giacona)
9. 08:12 AM - Canopy Problem (Joe)
10. 08:49 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Robin Bellach)
11. 08:52 AM - Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink (David Downey)
12. 08:54 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Carlos Sa)
13. 09:20 AM - Re: Canopy Problem ()
14. 10:11 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Robin Bellach)
15. 10:41 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Paul Mulwitz)
16. 10:42 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
17. 10:43 AM - Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. (Paul Mulwitz)
18. 10:47 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (Charles Wacker)
19. 10:52 AM - Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink (lwinger)
20. 11:40 AM - Re: Canopy Problem (LarryMcFarland)
21. 11:55 AM - Re:Re:Re:How about a sliding canopy (MaxNr@aol.com)
22. 01:08 PM - Re: Canopy Problem ()
23. 01:52 PM - Firesleeve (ruruny@aol.com)
24. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: OSH (Dan Lykowski)
25. 03:18 PM - Canopy Block (robert stone)
26. 03:45 PM - Loctite 620 (Bill Naumuk)
27. 03:45 PM - Re: Canopy Block (Craig Payne)
28. 04:03 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (wade jones)
29. 04:26 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (Kevin L. Rupert)
30. 04:31 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (R.P.)
31. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: How about a sliding canopy? (Matt Stecher)
32. 05:01 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (JohnDRead@aol.com)
33. 05:12 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (Gerald Scampoli)
34. 05:21 PM - Re: Canopy Block (Bryan Martin)
35. 05:45 PM - Re: Loctite 620 (Jerry Hey)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink |
Thanks for all the responses. Once again, the list comes through!
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL/Corvair from scratch
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
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| Subject: | Re: Re;How about a sliding canopy/ |
It looks good, but you still have to deal with the horizontal taper of
the fuselage, not to mention giving up the magnificant 360 degree vis
ibility. But it does look good.=0A=0APaul Rodriguez=0A601XL/C
orvair=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0A From: Kevin L. Rupe
rt<mailto:klr12@psu.edu> =0A To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:
zenith-list@matronics.com> =0A Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:18 PM
=0A Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Re;How about a sliding canopy/
=0A=0A=0A Paul,=0A I've been toying with the idea of ma
king a fastback and then installing =0A a slider. Initial calculat
ions seem to indicate it would need minimal =0A modifications to t
he turtledeck bulkheads and some more skin.=0A Just putting pencil
to paper right now.=0A
=0A Kevin R.=0A
=0A 601XL/Corvair=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | 601XL with Rotax 912S |
I am about to build a louvre for the water radiator air inlet to control better
the water temp.
and before i try to reinvent the wheel maybe anyone has allready done something
along this ....
so would be great to hear from anyone
thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink |
Hello,
But these countersinks are made in the 1/4 in thick aluminum,
I made them using a sharp woodworking countersunk in the drill
press and they came out fine. I managed to control the "chatter"
by picking a slow speed and controlling the pressure. I don't
think a microstop is needed in this material, the proper depth
can easily be measured and there is no danger of drilling too
deep.
regards,
Maarten,
601XL plans building wings
> Time: 03:40:30 AM PST US
> From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
>
> any standard aircraft (100) csk will do. That having been said - I would only
consider
> countersinking using a microstop and the appropriate piloted bits.
>
> This should be a simple question for you scratch builders. Where did you get
the
> countersink for 6-W-10-2 (bellcrank spacers)? What model number/part number?
> It needs to be able to bevel for an AN426 rivet head in 1/4 aluminum.
>
> I did a test using a countersink I had for woodworking, and at that depth it
began
> to "chatter" and it made an irregular edge.
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| Subject: | 601XL with Rotax 912S |
I would rather make a louvre for the Oil radiator, as in my experience it takes
forever to get to 50 degree C oil temp before take off, whereas the water temp
comes up quickly, well certainly on my 912S
Jonathan
>
>I am about to build a louvre for the water radiator air inlet
>to control better the water temp.
>and before i try to reinvent the wheel maybe anyone has
>allready done something along this ....
>so would be great to hear from anyone
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL with Rotax 912S |
Use an oil thermostat and your temps will come up quickly. I believe Van's
has a louver for their plane, maybe you could use that.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX/ 912S/ 114hrs
In a message dated 7/10/2007 10:23:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jonathan@entry.co.za writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
I would rather make a louvre for the Oil radiator, as in my experience it
takes
forever to get to 50 degree C oil temp before take off, whereas the water
temp
comes up quickly, well certainly on my 912S
Jonathan
>
>I am about to build a louvre for the water radiator air inlet
>to control better the water temp.
>and before i try to reinvent the wheel maybe anyone has
>allready done something along this ....
>so would be great to hear from anyone
>
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| Subject: | ELSA registration |
List . . . thanks to all who responded about registering the 701 as
ELSA. I have the information I need. You have been very helpful.
Robert Schoenberger 701
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Dan, were you at the Rocky Mountain RFI?
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engineerguy3737(at)yahoo. wrote:
> I'll be there working in the Dynon Booth.
>
> Dan Lykowski
> Dynon Avionics
>
> ---
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Guys,
I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far before
I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy another canopy.
Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise about where I can get
the best deal on one of these. I have another builder coming over this
afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
I have the same problem, cracked it before getting around to starting
installation. Obviously they are far more fragile than I suspected. I left
mine rolled for a long time and then unrolled it to avoid it taking a "set".
This was a mistake, because it is far more flexible than I would have
thought and does not seem to take a set at all. Anyway, on the advise of
others previously, I'm currently planning to order one from TODD'S.
http://www.toddscanopies.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <joe@kfiz.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Problem
>
> Guys,
>
> I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far
> before I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy another
> canopy. Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise about where I
> can get the best deal on one of these. I have another builder coming over
> this afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink |
there is a MAJOR issue here: the included angle of the "wood working" csk and the
AN426/MS20426 are not at all compatible. This is the worst condition in a driven
flush head rivet of all the possible error conditions. The rim of the rivet
head is seated but the head to shank region is gapped - and awful (and blind
to inspect until after failure) condition structurally.
Hello,
But these countersinks are made in the 1/4 in thick aluminum,
I made them using a sharp woodworking countersunk in the drill
press and they came out fine. I managed to control the "chatter"
by picking a slow speed and controlling the pressure. I don't
think a microstop is needed in this material, the proper depth
can easily be measured and there is no danger of drilling too
deep.
regards,
Maarten,
601XL plans building wings
> Time: 03:40:30 AM PST US
> From: David Downey
>
> any standard aircraft (100) csk will do. That having been said - I would only
consider
> countersinking using a microstop and the appropriate piloted bits.
>
> This should be a simple question for you scratch builders. Where did you get
the
> countersink for 6-W-10-2 (bellcrank spacers)? What model number/part number?
> It needs to be able to bevel for an AN426 rivet head in 1/4 aluminum.
>
> I did a test using a countersink I had for woodworking, and at that depth it
began
> to "chatter" and it made an irregular edge.
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
Todd's canopies has been mentioned by a number of people...
http://www.toddscanopies.com/
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 10/07/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far
> before
> I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy another
> canopy.
> Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise about where I can get
> the best deal on one of these. I have another builder coming over this
> afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
No advice here, just a related question. Since I experienced a few small, short
cracks that I had to stop drill and backfill, I am doubtful of how long my plexiglass
canopy will go before I have to replace it. Does Todd's Canopies offer
a Lexan canopy for the 601XL? Lexan is a lot easier to work with in my limited
experience and is much more resistant to cracking and scratching. If Zenith
had offered it as an option, I would have gone that route from the beginning.
Dred
---- Carlos Sa <carlossa52@gmail.com> wrote:
> Todd's canopies has been mentioned by a number of people...
> http://www.toddscanopies.com/
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
I just talked to Todd. He said his conopies are much thicker and
stronger. 60XL canopy is $340 + freight (estimated to Arkansas at $140),
and weighs about 2-1/2 pounds more than the ZAC canopy. He can make one
and have it on the way in a couple of days. Anyone know the current ZAC
canopy price?
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Problem
Todd's canopies has been mentioned by a number of people...
http://www.toddscanopies.com/
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 10/07/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
Guys,
I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far
before
I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy another
canopy.
Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise about where I
can get
the best deal on one of these. I have another builder coming over
this
afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
Hi Ed,
I agree with you that Lexan (polycarbonate) plastic would be easier
to form into a canopy than Plexiglas (acrylic). Unfortunately, Lexan
scratches very easily. For use in optical situations like this, it
is common practice to "Hard Coat" polycarbonate with
polyurethane. This is a process I have not found available for small
runs like our canopies. Without it, the canopy would quickly become
unusable since you won't be able to see through all the scratches.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 09:19 AM 7/10/2007, you wrote:
>No advice here, just a related question. Since I experienced a few
>small, short cracks that I had to stop drill and backfill, I am
>doubtful of how long my plexiglass canopy will go before I have to
>replace it. Does Todd's Canopies offer a Lexan canopy for the 601XL?
>Lexan is a lot easier to work with in my limited experience and is
>much more resistant to cracking and scratching. If Zenith had
>offered it as an option, I would have gone that route from the beginning.
>
>Dred
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
When mine FELL from the straps dry rotting I replaced it and zeniths price
was 600 and change.... OUCH!!!
Jeff
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| Subject: | Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. |
Apparently Aircraft Spruce has a new policy for shipping orders via
USPS. In this case (by far the least expensive method of shipping
small orders) they now take two business days to process the order
instead of one. They prepare it on the first day and get it to the
post office on the second day. This is a big reduction in service,
in my experience, since they used to process and ship USPS orders in
the same day up to now.
Perhaps they don't have any competition?
Paul
XL fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
I just bought one from Zenith, $525.00 plus shipping.
Chuck Wacker
601XL Quick Build
>From: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Problem
>Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:06:31 -0500
>
>I just talked to Todd. He said his conopies are much thicker and stronger.
>60XL canopy is $340 + freight (estimated to Arkansas at $140), and weighs
>about 2-1/2 pounds more than the ZAC canopy. He can make one and have it on
>the way in a couple of days. Anyone know the current ZAC canopy price?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carlos Sa
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Problem
>
>
> Todd's canopies has been mentioned by a number of people...
> http://www.toddscanopies.com/
>
> Carlos
> CH601-HD, plans
>
>
> On 10/07/07, Joe <joe@kfiz.com> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far
>before
> I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy another
>canopy.
> Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise about where I can
>get
> the best deal on one of these. I have another builder coming over this
> afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron bellcrank countersink |
For the record, Brown Tool came to the rescue again. I just ordered the #21 pilot
100 degree countersink (CC021) for $4.95 and the standard cage microstop (CC01-USA)
for $21.95. John was very helpful, and I expect to be doing more business
with them in the future.
Thanks again to the list for solid advice.
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Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL/Corvair from scratch
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
Hi Joe,
The cracked canopy may be used as a template for trimming and spotting
holes and edges could it not?
Might for this reason be best to use a canopy from Zenith again. You'd
probably want to ask what grade of acrylic
plastic they're using as well or if they've gone to a more durable
material recently. Plastics keep changing and you
may have the opportunity to improve the available product. Cost would
be the lesser of concerns at this point I think.
During the process,
Remember to use small diameter hose segments around the screws when they
go thru the plastic and manually break
all hole edges both sides with a relatively new countersink. Don't
over-tighten, etc. Study the crack to determine what
caused it before starting over. Hope you have better luck next round.
I remember sweating bullets when I did mine.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Joe wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I have a big problem! My canopy developed a crack and spread too far
> before I could drill a stop hole. It looks like I will have to buy
> another canopy. Before I call Zenith, I thought I would seek advise
> about where I can get the best deal on one of these. I have another
> builder coming over this afternoon to look ovr the situation! Any advise?
>
> Joe in Oshkosh
>
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| Subject: | Re:Re:Re:How about a sliding canopy |
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Last thoughts on canopies: Safety is paramount. A slider is convenient and
cool, but may leak and be drafty. The "flip top" and side hinge have their
drawbacks in high wind. I will confess to some formal training at Arizona State
(Sun Devil U) way back in the last century. I was a military pilot then and Uncle
Sam wanted me to be involved with R&D. The focus was on aircraft crash
survival issues. Some notes on the 601XL: There is NO roll over protection such
as a
reinforced windshield bow or 4130 structure behind the seats. This adds
weight but would be desirable for several reasons. Protects your head bone and
allows shoulder restraints to properly lead UP and aft to an anchor. Not off your
shoulders and down like some designs. (RV8.) That design guaranties two broken
collar bones in a crash. You still need a fire ax or break out tool
(screwdriver) to bust out. The rudder survives some roll overs although not designed
for that. The BD5 swing up/back type shares the same draw backs. It was also
used on a production twin, The WING Derringer now hq'ed in Mobile, AL. Years ago,
watched some nerd in a Schweitzer 1-26 (side hinge canopy) land down wind and
go over on his back. There was no post crash fire. We group of rubberneckers
pushed it back upright and he could then open the canopy. It weighs about
350lbs empty. No damage. None. Well, some paint. The best way to leave an A/C in
a
hurry is through a side door or hatch. One on each side would be great.
(Ercoupe, Swift, Cessna) Just some thoughts.
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Problem |
When I built my ultralight, the kit came with a sheet of Lexan which I bent over
the frame and trimmed to fit. That windshield is still in very decent condition
despite residing in a dusty hanagr infested with birds which build nests 24/7
all summer long.
The few scratches that have happened over the last four years have been where my
gps and the corners of the panel rub on the inside surface. I think they might
be remedied with the micro mesh technique but since they aren't in the critical
field of view, I haven't bothered. I don't think my sheet of Lexan had any
special treatment so maybe it would be such a bad deal after all.
Ed
---- Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> I agree with you that Lexan (polycarbonate) plastic would be easier
> to form into a canopy than Plexiglas (acrylic). Unfortunately, Lexan
> scratches very easily. For use in optical situations like this, it
> is common practice to "Hard Coat" polycarbonate with
> polyurethane. This is a process I have not found available for small
> runs like our canopies. Without it, the canopy would quickly become
> unusable since you won't be able to see through all the scratches.
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
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Hey guys,
I was putting firesleeve on my fuel lines in the engine compartment and was searching
google for an easier way to do it.
I was struggling with a 1 1/2 foot length to get it on the hose and was wondering
how the hell I was going to get it on the 3 foot
piece from the gascolator to the fuel pump on my rotax. I found this tip on the
RV list and figured I'd pass it on to you guys
when you're there one day.
......old mechanic showed me how to install firesleeve with compressed air. ?
I was working at the Cessna service hanger in Wichita back in the late 70's. ?
?
I was a young A&P at the time and had been struggling with the firesleeve on ?
an oil hose for at least 15 minutes. ?
This guy comes over to me and say's "let me show you a trick". I said ?
"please". ?
?
He takes a air hose with a blow nozzle, sticks it up in one end of the fire ?
sleeve and tells me to put the other end on the oil hose. ?
He tells me to get it started and then put my hand around it and squeeze to ?
trap the air inside. By controlling the amount of air you let out, the ?
firesleeve expands and the extra air escaping makes the firesleeve slide on ?
like a hockey puck on an air table. I was amazed and remember it like it was ?
yesterday. ?
?
Hope this helps someone. ?
?
Mark Burns??
I have to say this works great!
I also found that if you use a 16 gauge piece of wire and a barbed coupler(has
barbs on both sides to connect 2 pieces of hose)
Tie a knot in one end of the 16 gauge wire and run it thru the barbed coupler,
put the coupler on the hose with the knot going
in first, run the wire thru the firesleeve and pull the hose thru the firesleeve,
its alot easier to pull it thru than push it!
I used a little extra? fuel hose and just cut the coupler off.
I would like to put some high temp RTV on the ends of the fire sleeve, for dirt
oil getting into the soft inside.
Will it have any bad effects on the goodyear rubber hose from Zenith? I know recently
that Rotax replaced some
preinstalled hoses on some engines that had them(mine didn't) for somthing related
to this.
Checked the archives but did not find any archived messages related to this, although
it was mentioned recently.
The firesleeve is installed already so the RTV seems the best choice right now.
Thanks for all the great help.
Brian Unruh
Long Island
http://www.701builder.com
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Gig,
No, that wasn't me. It was most likely Mike or Ron.
The last event I attended was the Cloverdale fly in with my wife. They only
send us engineers go to the big shows. :)
Dan Lykowski
Dynon Avionics
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From: Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:51:28 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: OSH
Dan, were you at the Rocky Mountain RFI?
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engineerguy3737(at)yahoo. wrote:
> I'll be there working in the Dynon Booth.
>
> Dan Lykowski
> Dynon Avionics
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Members,
Those of you who live in the south as I do are well aware of the
extremes of heat we experience during the summer months and when taxiing
or doing your power-on pre-flight the heat becomes unbearable. The
block you see in the picture I have enclosed is an item I dreamed up to
keep the heat down during all ground operations in my ZodiacXL. Even
with one of the Koger sun shades the cockpit gets very hot on the
ground.
Tracy Stone
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All-
Before I give those bandits at MSC a $10 "Handling" charge to ship a
1 oz bottle, does anyone know of a national auto or hardware store that
carries the Loctite 620 recommended for putting Corvair parts together?
No luck with Advance, Auto Zone, or NAPA. Clark's doesn't carry it
either.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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Is there some kind of hold-down for the canopy in case of a tail wind?
-- Craig
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Hi Bill ,I cant help you with the 620 .I have built several aircraft
engines and I use Loctite 515 .It is approved for use on aircraft
engines and has served me well .It may be more available than the 620
.Just a thought.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
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From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 5:44 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Loctite 620
All-
Before I give those bandits at MSC a $10 "Handling" charge to ship
a 1 oz bottle, does anyone know of a national auto or hardware store
that carries the Loctite 620 recommended for putting Corvair parts
together? No luck with Advance, Auto Zone, or NAPA. Clark's doesn't
carry it either.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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Bill,
I got mine at Midway USA. $17.49 plus SH for 10 ml.
> http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=171860
Kevin R.
601XL/Corvair
Lewistown, PA
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Loctite 620
All-
Before I give those bandits at MSC a $10 "Handling" charge to ship a 1
oz bottle, does anyone know of a national auto or hardware store that
carries the Loctite 620
Geeze...
All this whining about bandits and shipping charges, you'd think this was a
crybaby forum instead of a place to talk about airplanes ;)
I bought some Loctite 620 from a local bearing supply house. There's
probably one near you Bill.
But it ain't cheap... them theives all want to make an obscene profit so
they can drive their Rolls Royces back home to their mansions.
tongue in cheek,
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: How about a sliding canopy? |
It would seem fairly simple to design a sliding canopy that would raise up a
few inches at the front and then slide to the rear.
>From my own design work I know that the devil is always in the details and I
have not thought this completely through, but I think I will give this allot
of thought.
I have awhile before I get to that stage, so I have some time and will keep
my eyes open for other sliding designs.
Take care,
Matt
XLVair
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Downey
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:38 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: How about a sliding canopy?
do not archive
...just do not forget that the upper fuselage aft of the cockpit is
substantially wider than the forward end of the canopy/instrument panel...
Matt Stecher <mrcc1234@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
This is the first built version of what I am thinking about that I have
seen
yet. A three point support is the only way to go here I think. I believe
it would also prevent the jamming that was mentioned before.
Does anyone have any plans for this sort of design?
I was thinking about a recessed rear attachment point, but I had not
figured
out how to keep water out of the fuselage yet. The external one would be
very easy to build and I could work up a design that keeps it flush with
the
plane rather than raised as shown.
All ideas are wanted and appreciated.
Thanks, Matt
XLVair
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of BobTezyk
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:18 AM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: How about a sliding canopy?
I was considering purchasing one that was for sale in Vancouver, WA. The
airplane was very well built. While I liked the idea of a fixed
windscreen,
the canopy itself was a little fragile. The latching mechanism was hard
to
latch and not foolproof. The biggest reason I walked away was that the
additional support structure added a lot of weight. There was a lot more
metal required to make it all work.
Pictures attached.
Regards,
Bob Tezyk
601XL QB/ J3300
Midlothian,
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Did you try the Loctite site for retailers in your area. Check also for
equivalent p/ns in the Loctite catalog.
John Read
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
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McMaster-Carr carries Loctite 620.
Gerry Scampoli
Hingham, MA
601XL - Corvair
>From: "Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net>
>All-
> Before I give those bandits at MSC a $10 "Handling" charge to ship a 1
>oz bottle, does anyone know of a national auto or hardware store that
>carries the Loctite 620 recommended for putting Corvair parts together? No
>luck with Advance, Auto Zone, or NAPA. Clark's doesn't carry it either.
>Bill Naumuk
>HDS Fuse/Corvair
>Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Block |
I bought a piece of steel strap from the local Ace hardware store. It
was about 3/16" thick and an inch wide and had holes in it at regular
intervals. I enlarged a hole at one end to fit over the latch pin on my
canopy rail. I bought a replacement latch pin from the "Help" display at
a local auto parts store and installed this pin in the other end of my
steel strap. Now when I want to prop open the canopy of my Zodiac while
taxing, I stick the latch pin on the end of my steel strap into the
canopy latch and slip the hole on the other end over the latch pin on
the canopy rail. I think I paid less than ten dollars for the parts and
the assembly only weighs a few ounces and takes up very little space.
Works like a charm.
robert stone wrote:
> Members,
> Those of you who live in the south as I do are well aware of the
> extremes of heat we experience during the summer months and when taxiing
> or doing your power-on pre-flight the heat becomes unbearable. The
> block you see in the picture I have enclosed is an item I dreamed up to
> keep the heat down during all ground operations in my ZodiacXL. Even
> with one of the Koger sun shades the cockpit gets very hot on the ground.
>
>--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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I would think any industrial supply would have the complete Loctite
line. Likewise, check with a bearing supply. The ones I go to carry
Loctite. Jerry
On Jul 10, 2007, at 8:00 PM, JohnDRead@aol.com wrote:
> Did you try the Loctite site for retailers in your area. Check also
> for equivalent p/ns in the Loctite catalog.
>
> John Read
> Phone: 303-648-3261
> Fax: 303-648-3262
>
> do not archive
>
>
> See what's free at AOL.com.
>
>
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