---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/13/07: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:34 AM - Yahoo! Auto Response (gsivyer@yahoo.ca) 2. 04:17 AM - Re: Canope Link (ALAN BEYER) 3. 06:40 AM - Re: Corvair engines () 4. 08:21 AM - Re: Canope Link (Craig Payne) 5. 09:19 AM - Re: Corvair engines (Gary Ray) 6. 09:23 AM - Re: Canope Link () 7. 09:53 AM - Canope Latch (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 8. 10:29 AM - Re: Canope Link (ALAN BEYER) 9. 11:05 AM - Re: Canope Link (VideoFlyer@aol.com) 10. 11:21 AM - Re: Canope Link (Edward Moody II) 11. 11:39 AM - More Canape Info (Michael Valentine) 12. 12:45 PM - Re: More Canape Info (Craig Payne) 13. 01:49 PM - Re: Canope Link (Bryan Martin) 14. 02:23 PM - Fw: re cam (Bill Naumuk) 15. 02:29 PM - Re: Canope Link (wade jones) 16. 02:51 PM - Re: Canopy Link (Edward Moody II) 17. 04:00 PM - Re: Canope Link (rgeese) 18. 04:46 PM - Re: Corvair engines (Tim Verthein) 19. 05:14 PM - Securing your aircraft (robert stone) 20. 07:05 PM - Re: Re: Canope Link (ALAN BEYER) 21. 07:11 PM - VP (Visual Progress) report (Carlos Sa) 22. 07:23 PM - LRI Probe position (Tommy Walker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:21 AM PST US From: gsivyer@yahoo.ca Subject: Zenith-List: Yahoo! Auto Response Out of town til July 19. Talk to you then. Gord and Con ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:57 AM PST US From: ALAN BEYER Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Craig, I turn out a knob that looks like the one on the lower plate and it clips into the latch. I can send you a pic of the link when not in the latch if you would like. Al from Oshkosh ----- Original Message ---- From: Craig Payne Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:47:21 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canope Link Alan, I can't make it out from the pictures and I've lost your original e-mail. What does the link connect to on the latch on the canopy? -- Craig ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:28 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair engines MY 601XL HAD ITS FINAL INSPECTION AND TEST FLIGHT LAST MONTH. IT HAS A CORVAIR ENGINE THAT WW PERSONALY HELPED ME REBUILD STEP BY STEP. I NOW HAVE ALMOST 15 FLIGHT HOURS ON THIS ENGINE AND IT IS FANTASTIC. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION, WHEN YOUR PLANE IS FINISHED AND YOUR ENGINE IS SITTING IN THE GARAGE, WHO IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO MOUNT THE ENGINE, HOOK UP ALL THE CONTOLS, GAUGES, HOSES,AND ACCESSORIES. [ THESE NUMBER IN THE HUNDREDS.] WW CAN NOT ONLY TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT, HE WILL RECOMEND WHAT BRAND TO USE IT, AND WHERE TO PURCHASE IT. I HAD NO BACKGROUND AT ALL IN INSTALLING AN ENGINE AND ALL ITS ACCESSORIES, BUT WITH WW'S AND GUS WARREN'S ADVICE, I WAS ABLE TO DO THIS BY MYSELF, WITH GREAT RESULTS. IF YOU DECIDE ON ANOTHER ENGINE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT AFTER IT ARRIVES AT YOUR HOUSE, WHO IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO INSTALL IT CORRECTLY. YOU WILL FIND THIS IS A VERY BIG JOB. NO ONE IS PERFECT, BUT YOU WILL NOT GO WRONG IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THE CORVAIR ROUTE WITH WW. CHARLES LEONARD 601XL[FLYING] ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:08 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canope Link I understand now but a picture at some point would be nice. But as it requires a lathe it isn't something I can make. Add me to the list of folks interested in buying one. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:04 AM PST US From: "Gary Ray" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair engines My story is very similar. William was a tremendous help with all things firewall forward and I am very happy with the results. Gary Ray 601XL with WW 2700cc Corvair installation 35.7 hours TT Flying to Oshkosh in 10 days. ----- Original Message ----- From: CLEONARD52@comcast.net To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Corvair engines MY 601XL HAD ITS FINAL INSPECTION AND TEST FLIGHT LAST MONTH. IT HAS A CORVAIR ENGINE THAT WW PERSONALY HELPED ME REBUILD STEP BY STEP. I NOW HAVE ALMOST 15 FLIGHT HOURS ON THIS ENGINE AND IT IS FANTASTIC. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION, WHEN YOUR PLANE IS FINISHED AND YOUR ENGINE IS SITTING IN THE GARAGE, WHO IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO MOUNT THE ENGINE, HOOK UP ALL THE CONTOLS, GAUGES, HOSES,AND ACCESSORIES. [ THESE NUMBER IN THE HUNDREDS.] WW CAN NOT ONLY TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT, HE WILL RECOMEND WHAT BRAND TO USE IT, AND WHERE TO PURCHASE IT. I HAD NO BACKGROUND AT ALL IN INSTALLING AN ENGINE AND ALL ITS ACCESSORIES, BUT WITH WW'S AND GUS WARREN'S ADVICE, I WAS ABLE TO DO THIS BY MYSELF, WITH GREAT RESULTS. IF YOU DECIDE ON ANOTHER ENGINE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT AFTER IT ARRIVES AT YOUR HOUSE, WHO IS GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW TO INSTALL IT CORRECTLY. YOU WILL FIND THIS IS A VERY BIG JOB. NO ONE IS PERFECT, BUT YOU WILL NOT GO WRONG IF YOU DECIDE TO GO THE CORVAIR ROUTE WITH WW. CHARLES LEONARD 601XL[FLYING] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 1:40 PM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:24 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canope Link Hi Craig, I don't want to torpedo Alan's ship here but....... You can indeed make the latch striker part without benefit of a metal lathe. Buy some aluminum bar stock with the thickness equal to the round disc at the end of the striker and cut out that piece using a drill press and a fly cutter or a holesaw. Now you have the end piece with a quarter inch hole through it, right? Countersink that hole one one side for a flathead screw. Now you also need a short piece of solid aluminum rod that matches the diameter of the neck of the striker. Cut that to length so as to match the corresponding part of the striker. Drill a hole lengthwise through that rod using the appropriate size drill to tap out to accomodate a flathead 1/4" x 24 pitch stainless steel machine screw. You mount the "button" part to thr rod part with the stainless screw. Likewise you mount the rod part to the strut part with another stainless screw from the other end. The strut part you make form the bar stock cut to the length you like and drilled out for weight reduction, then bent to the S-curved shape as needed to fit your canopy latches. Since this part isn't being used constantly as the canopy latch, the aluminum stock should hold up adequately in terms of wear. The actual latch parts are steel of course because of their increased strength demands. If you really want to make something on your own, there is usually a way to bootleg it without going to a machine shop, particularly parts like this that won't kill you in a crash. Go for it, Dred ---- Craig Payne wrote: > I understand now but a picture at some point would be nice. But as it > requires a lathe it isn't something I can make. Add me to the list of folks > interested in buying one. > > -- Craig ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:14 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Canope Latch List I have been kicking around the Idea for a canopy Latch for the XL on the Right side and here is what I was thinking. I used to own several Pizza restaurants and used to install my own walk-in coolers and the locking part that joins the panels together (The cam lock) would fit between the outer trim and the steal canopy frame. I would have to make some sort of handle for it so as you turn it the cam would turn the locking latch and would catch a pin in the fush. And not only securely lock it down but it would also pull the canopy downward. This is secondary to the zenith latch and would only be for the right side. In the event of an emergency you would have to unlock it as part of your checklist. Let me know what you think.... Has anyone ever tried this? Or does anyone know of a supplier for these cam locks? Jeff ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:20 AM PST US From: ALAN BEYER Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Dred, It's not like there is any torpedoing going on here. All I did was show what I made and would make some more if anyone was interested. We are all big boys here and can do what we want. AL from Oshkosh ----- Original Message ---- From: "dredmoody@cox.net" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:22:02 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Canope Link Hi Craig, I don't want to torpedo Alan's ship here but....... You can indeed make the latch striker part without benefit of a metal lathe. Buy some aluminum bar stock with the thickness equal to the round disc at the end of the striker and cut out that piece using a drill press and a fly cutter or a holesaw. Now you have the end piece with a quarter inch hole through it, right? Countersink that hole one one side for a flathead screw. Now you also need a short piece of solid aluminum rod that matches the diameter of the neck of the striker. Cut that to length so as to match the corresponding part of the striker. Drill a hole lengthwise through that rod using the appropriate size drill to tap out to accomodate a flathead 1/4" x 24 pitch stainless steel machine screw. You mount the "button" part to thr rod part with the stainless screw. Likewise you mount the rod part to the strut part with another stainless screw from the other end. The strut part you make form the bar stock cut to the length you like and drilled out for weight reduction, then bent to the S-curved shape as needed to fit your canopy latches. Since this part isn't being used constantly as the canopy latch, the aluminum stock should hold up adequately in terms of wear. The actual latch parts are steel of course because of their increased strength demands. If you really want to make something on your own, there is usually a way to bootleg it without going to a machine shop, particularly parts like this that won't kill you in a crash. Go for it, Dred ---- Craig Payne wrote: > I understand now but a picture at some point would be nice. But as it > requires a lathe it isn't something I can make. Add me to the list of folks > interested in buying one. > > -- Craig ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:05 AM PST US From: VideoFlyer@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link <<<< We are all big boys here and can do what we want. >>>>> Ain't it the truth!! Dave ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:06 AM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Got that Alan. I meant more in the sense of pre-empting you than deriving you of income. Your offer to make the item for those who are timid of doing so for themselves is a generous one. Your charge would barely cover the materials I'm sure. I merely wanted to point out that there are alternatives available to those of us who only wish that we had a lathe. If I stepped on your toes, I apologize. I like your idea very much and plan to use it.... thanks for the inspiration. I also picked up on the padlock hasp bracket outside the canopy. That is what I saw, isn't it? I lik ethat idea too. I envy your originality and your location. Dred Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: ALAN BEYER To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Dred, It's not like there is any torpedoing going on here. All I did was show what I made and would make some more if anyone was interested. We are all big boys here and can do what we want. AL from Oshkosh ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:02 AM PST US From: "Michael Valentine" Subject: Zenith-List: More Canape Info Here is a link to my favorite. http://recipes.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Image:Canape-recipes.jpg Michael in NH Needless to say, but do not archive. Needed to say even less, have a sense of humor and use spell check, if necessary. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:05 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: More Canape Info > Here is a link to my favorite. I was waiting for that ;-) -- Craig do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:49:48 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Or you could go down to your local auto parts store and buy a replacement car door striker bolt for around $10. Or go to a salvage yard and pay even less. > > Hi Craig, > > I don't want to torpedo Alan's ship here but....... You can indeed make the latch striker part without benefit of a metal lathe. Buy some aluminum bar stock with the thickness equal to the round disc at the end of the striker and cut out that piece using a drill press and a fly cutter or a holesaw. Now you have the end piece with a quarter inch hole through it, right? Countersink that hole one one side for a flathead screw. > > Now you also need a short piece of solid aluminum rod that matches the diameter of the neck of the striker. Cut that to length so as to match the corresponding part of the striker. Drill a hole lengthwise through that rod using the appropriate size drill to tap out to accomodate a flathead 1/4" x 24 pitch stainless steel machine screw. You mount the "button" part to thr rod part with the stainless screw. Likewise you mount the rod part to the strut part with another stainless screw from the other end. The strut part you make form the bar stock cut to the length you like and drilled out for weight reduction, then bent to the S-curved shape as needed to fit your canopy latches. > > Since this part isn't being used constantly as the canopy latch, the aluminum stock should hold up adequately in terms of wear. The actual latch parts are steel of course because of their increased strength demands. > > If you really want to make something on your own, there is usually a way to bootleg it without going to a machine shop, particularly parts like this that won't kill you in a crash. > > Go for it, -- Bryan Martin Zenith 601XL N61BM Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:52 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: re cam All- Self explanatory. Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 5:20 PM Subject: Re: re cam Clark's- Great.There was no indication the cylinder/piston sets weren't in stock while I was placing my order, or from the order confirmation. I just returned from the Post Office, where I shipped out my cores. NOW you tell me half my engine parts are unavailable!! Do you have the forged piston and ring set with a different sized overbore cylinder in stock? Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: Clarks Corvair Parts Inc To: naumuk@alltel.net Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: re cam Regarding the cam that you ordered, we now have the woodruff key that goes in them, so it's only the topped cylinders that we do not have & can't get at this time. Clarks Corvair Parts Inc 400 Mohawk Trail Shelburne Falls, MA 01370 413-625-9776 413-625-8498 fax www.corvair.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:36 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link I paid $1.98 . Wade Jones South Texas 601XL plans building Cont. 0200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Martin" Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link > > Or you could go down to your local auto parts store and buy a replacement > car door striker bolt for around $10. Or go to a salvage yard and pay even > less. > >> >> Hi Craig, >> >> I don't want to torpedo Alan's ship here but....... You can indeed >> make the latch striker part without benefit of a metal lathe. Buy some >> aluminum bar stock with the thickness equal to the round disc at the end >> of the striker and cut out that piece using a drill press and a fly >> cutter or a holesaw. Now you have the end piece with a quarter inch hole >> through it, right? Countersink that hole one one side for a flathead >> screw. Now you also need a short piece of solid aluminum rod that matches >> the diameter of the neck of the striker. Cut that to length so as to >> match the corresponding part of the striker. Drill a hole lengthwise >> through that rod using the appropriate size drill to tap out to >> accomodate a flathead 1/4" x 24 pitch stainless steel machine screw. You >> mount the "button" part to thr rod part with the stainless screw. >> Likewise you mount the rod part to the strut part with another stainless >> screw from the other end. The strut part you make form the bar stock cut >> to the length you like and drilled out for weight reduction, then bent to >> the S-curved shape as needed to fit your canopy latches. Since this part >> isn't being used constantly as the canopy latch, the aluminum stock >> should hold up adequately in terms of wear. The actual latch parts are >> steel of course because of their increased strength demands. If you >> really want to make something on your own, there is usually a way to >> bootleg it without going to a machine shop, particularly parts like this >> that won't kill you in a crash. >> >> Go for it, > > > -- > Bryan Martin > Zenith 601XL N61BM > Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive > Do Not Archive > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:51:54 PM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canopy Link Now where the hell's the fun in THAT? Dred Do Not Archive Do Not Blame Other's Misspelling on ME (I do enough of my own) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Martin To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canope Link Or you could go down to your local auto parts store and buy a replacement car door striker bolt for around $10. Or go to a salvage yard and pay even less. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:53 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canope Link From: "rgeese" Interested also! Are you just using one on the left side, or using two, one on each side? I like your idea! Ron Geese Reynoldsburg, Ohio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123677#123677 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:12 PM PST US From: Tim Verthein Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Corvair engines For those interested... William Wynn will also be at Brodhead, WI the weekend of July 21st (right before Oshkosh) at the Pietenpol fly-in. He will be doing a presentation on the Corvair engine at 2 PM that Saturday. Just in case you'll be in the area, and we won't really mind too much if you show up in an aluminum airplane! Tim in Bovey == You *can* repair a flip-flop with a capacitor! == Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:02 PM PST US From: "robert stone" Subject: Zenith-List: Securing your aircraft I assume from a post I read about a pad lock hasp on the outside of the aircraft that this is to solve the problem of not being able to lock the canopy when you are at a strange airport or even at home if you are tied down and do not have a hanger. I solved this problem by building a metal box large enough to hold my GPS, both headsets and still have space for other goodies that I do not want stolen. Of course the box has a hasp and a pad lock and sits right on the center line in back of the seats. The box is screwed down from the inside so when it is closed and locked, the screws are impossible to get at. Tracy Stone Harker Heights, Tx ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:05:54 PM PST US From: ALAN BEYER Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canope Link I only use one on the left side. The only time I will not use it is if the field is very rough. I have used this link for over two years and it works good. My problem is that I work in engineering and always want to make everything better, so when I started to see some interest in these links I went to my hangar and measured things up to try and disign a new one. Dred, good job looking at the whole picture and not just the link--Yes that little tab on the bottom is for a small pad lock. There is one of those on both sides. I tried to come up with a simple way to slow someone down from opening the canope. If they wanted to get inside bad enough they could smack the canope with their fist. Hope to meet some of you guys at Oshkosh, AL ----- Original Message ---- From: rgeese Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 5:59:51 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canope Link Interested also! Are you just using one on the left side, or using two, one on each side? I like your idea! Ron Geese Reynoldsburg, Ohio Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123677#123677 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:21 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: VP (Visual Progress) report From: "Carlos Sa" Hello, all After a long while, I managed to pop a few rivets this evening. Results are attached: one wing locker door, with Hartwell latches. Carlos CH601-HD, plans -------- CH601-HD, plans Montreal, Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123712#123712 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/locker_cover_parts_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/locker_cover_125.jpg ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:33 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: LRI Probe position From: "Tommy Walker" Listers, I got my my LRI probe installed on my 701. I am wondering what degree angle I should set the probe at for initial testing. The probe is located at about the spar line on the wing (depending on the degrees i set for the angle of attack). Any ideas about an initial degree setting would be appreciated. IF: 1. I get finished by July 26 2. The plane passes the DAR inspection 3. I get current and a BFR 4. I get at least an hour in a 701 (insurance) 5. I will take the first flight in August.... Hey, it could happen.... Tommy Walker in Alabama -------- Tommy Walker Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123714#123714 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.