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1. 01:42 AM - Re: Securing your aircraft (chris Sinfield)
2. 01:09 PM - Zenith 701 compared with ICP Savannah (LouB)
3. 02:05 PM - panel access (Skip Perry)
4. 02:34 PM - Re: panel access (Terry Turnquist)
5. 03:45 PM - First flight... not so good (rickpitcher)
6. 04:05 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (Jim Hoak)
7. 04:17 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (rickpitcher)
8. 04:45 PM - impending forced sale of Zodiac components (David Downey)
9. 04:45 PM - Re: panel access (ALAN BEYER)
10. 05:14 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
11. 06:28 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (rickpitcher)
12. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (LHusky@aol.com)
13. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
14. 08:14 PM - Re: panel access (LarryMcFarland)
15. 09:05 PM - Re: panel access (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Re: Securing your aircraft |
Tracy, Tracy
Pictures , pictures please.
Chris
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| Subject: | Zenith 701 compared with ICP Savannah |
How would you compare these two planes? The matched hole construction seems to
favor the Savannah but its "shady" origin is a potential drawback.
How do the new 701 kits seem with the increased CNC metal preparation. Has the
build time decreased.
Thanks,
Lou
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I am working on the cockpit now and realize that it would be advantageous to
have access behind the panel. I have either thought about cutting access
holes or making the entire forward top skin (6C1-4) removable. What have any
of you done with success? Photos would be appreciated.
Skip Perry 601XL
Ft. Myers, FL
sperry50@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: panel access |
Skip, here's a good site showing what you need for removable skin.
http://www.macsmachine.com/
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Terry Turnquist
Skip Perry <sperry50@comcast.net> wrote:
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I am working on the
cockpit now and realize that it would be advantageous to have access behind
the panel. I have either thought about cutting access holes or making the entire
forward top skin (6C1-4) removable. What have any of you done with success?
Photos would be appreciated.
Skip Perry 601XL
Ft. Myers, FL
sperry50@comcast.net
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| Subject: | First flight... not so good |
I got a phone call a couple hours ago asking if my red and white Zodiac was still
safe in the hangar. Turns out another Zodiac 601 HDS was taking it's first
flight at a local airpark when the engine quit. The plane ended up on the roof
of a house just a couple hundred feet short of the runway. The pilot is OK, just
a few scratches and bruises. The plane didn't fare as well.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Rick,
Thanks for sharing the news. Where are you located - where did this happen?
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Jim Hoak
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:44 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: First flight... not so good
>
> I got a phone call a couple hours ago asking if my red and white Zodiac
> was still safe in the hangar. Turns out another Zodiac 601 HDS was taking
> it's first flight at a local airpark when the engine quit. The plane ended
> up on the roof of a house just a couple hundred feet short of the runway.
> The pilot is OK, just a few scratches and bruises. The plane didn't fare
> as well.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123825#123825
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
planejim(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Thanks for sharing the news. Where are you located - where did this happen?
>
> do not archive
>
> Jim Hoak
> ---
I have a hangar at Fox Field in Lancaster, Calif. (WJF).
The unfortunate HDS was about 8 miles North at Rosamond Skypark (L00)
According to the Sheriff at the scene, the pilot was OK, but taken to a nearby
hospitol to get checked out.
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| Subject: | impending forced sale of Zodiac components |
Due to circumstances beyond my control it looks like I will be getting divorced.
As a result, my 601XL project is canceled and I need to sell the components.
What I have consists of:
The information pack for the 601XL. ($35.00)
The 601XL plans S/N 6404 to the latest release (3rd edition, 3rd revision.
(11" x 17" paper size) and Drawing list 6-X-0 (page 1 of 1),
dated March 15, 2006). ($395.00)
The dual stick supplement drawings. ($45.00)
The taildragger supplement drawings. ($45.00)
All the latest builder guides printed in color on 8.5x11 bond. (price???)
All the newsletters since the advent of the XL (July/Aug 1999-present, $78.00)
The CNC vertical tail kit including rivets, drilled out per drawings and builders
guides, PLUS:
the upper hinge elements finished (not included in the kit, $6.40)
the lower forward fairing skin (not included in the kit, $4.10)
the rudder horn (not included in the kit, $11.20)
200 extra Avex 1604 A4 rivets from ZAC (not included in the kit, $16.00)
75 extra Avex 1604 A5 rivets from ZAC (not included in the kit, $6.75)
This kit was custom fabricated by ZAC for me with 0.020" forward and aft skins
. This results in an assembled rudder that will be about 1 lb heavier than stock
but much, much more durable from a handling standpoint. A second benefit is
that the ribs will pull to it instead of it pulling to the ribs for a much cleaner
assembled appearance.
I would prefer to sell it unassembled (has been assembled complete with Clecos
except for leading edge skin) for two reasons: the buyer can do the assembly easily
and show they did it, and, it will be easier to ship as I can ship it in
ZAC's box. As it is, it needs to be drilled to full diameter (#30 and #20 drills)
and the leading edge skin needs to be fitted.
Shipping is estimated at about $35.00 + insurance.
I would like to sell the lot together for $600 plus shipping/insurance. Please
contact me with any questions.
I do not plan to sell my 2 Corvair cores at this time.
A note about the job: I have spent my entire 35 year career in aircraft fabrication
and then in Aerospace Materials Engineering. This is the first aircraft assembly
work that I have done in over 20 years but is good workmanship because
I spent some time building dummy structures until my skills came back up to par.
Thanks for considering helping me at this point.
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
Zodiac 601XL/Corvair?
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| Subject: | Re: panel access |
Skip,
Here are a few pics of what I did.
Al from Oshkosh - 601 HDS
----- Original Message ----
From: Skip Perry <sperry50@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:03:56 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: panel access
I am working on the cockpit now and realize that it would be advantageous to have
access behind the panel. I have either thought about cutting access holes or
making the entire forward top skin (6C1-4) removable. What have any of you done
with success? Photos would be appreciated.
Skip Perry 601XL
Ft. Myers, FL
sperry50@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
I don't see a N # on that plane. Do you know what it is?
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
[quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]I don't see a N # on that plane. Do you know what
it is?
Jeff
quote]
Yeah, I airbrushed the N-numbers off of the tail before posting the pix. No need
to identify the owner at this time. I'm sure it'll all come out in an NTSB
review sometime soon.
I'll post more info if something definitive comes up.
Rick Pitcher
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
What engine did it have?
Larry Husky
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Looks like a subi to me.
In a message dated 7/14/2007 10:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LHusky@aol.com writes:
What engine did it have?
Larry Husky
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| Subject: | Re: panel access |
Hi Skip,
I did the complete removable forward top skin. It's been off half a
dozen times in two years.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/uclips.gif
I used U-nuts and J-nut type fasteners which are easier to install and
much less expensive than plate nuts with rivets.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/canopy/full/flash&rubber.gif
6-32 screws were used on the firewall, instrument panel and the sides.
Very easy install and about 90 screws that will
not come loose in flight. As you can see, access is total and that
includes visual of the firewall inside mounts, and all wiring.
lots of daylight when you need to rewire a component.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/electrical/full/electricaccess3.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezftrleft.gif
If you need more details, don't hesitate to ask.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Skip Perry wrote:
>
> I am working on the cockpit now and realize that it would be
> advantageous to have access behind the panel. I have either thought
> about cutting access holes or making the entire forward top skin
> (6C1-4) removable. What have any of you done with success? Photos
> would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Skip Perry 601XL
>
> Ft. Myers, FL
>
> sperry50@comcast.net <mailto:sperry50@comcast.net>
>
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I've attached a beautiful Adobe Acrobat (PDF) document by Jay Bannister with
his design for instrument panel access. He is active on the list so he may
chime in with other information or updates.
Skip - if the attachment doesn't get through let me know and I'll e-mail it
directly to your address.
-- Craig
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