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1. 12:28 AM - Photos from Arlington 2007 ( Saturday ) (John Marzulli)
2. 02:25 AM - CH701 brakes (howado1@comcast.net)
3. 05:54 AM - Re: First flight... not so good (Juan Vega)
4. 08:02 AM - Re: Photos from Arlington 2007 ( Saturday ) (TxDave)
5. 12:31 PM - Corvair (Ralph Mirabal)
6. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (raymondj)
7. 03:05 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (rickpitcher)
8. 03:06 PM - Re: First flight... not so good (rickpitcher)
9. 03:06 PM - Re: CH701 brakes (jetboy)
10. 03:08 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (Michael Valentine)
11. 03:30 PM - Re: Corvair (Trainnut01@aol.com)
12. 04:53 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (raymondj)
13. 06:52 PM - Trailering the 701 (ricklach)
14. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: First flight... not so good (raymondj)
15. 09:30 PM - Re: Canadian Pricing of Kits (ZodieRocket)
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| Subject: | Photos from Arlington 2007 ( Saturday ) |
I posted about 120 photos from Arlington on my blog. (
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ )
You can also view the same photos at
http://picasaweb.google.com/john.marzulli/Arlington2007Saturday
Enjoy!
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
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I have a question for CH701 builders:
The photoassembly guides have very little information on the brake system;
where do I find information such as the brake line material spec, suggested
routing and tie downs, fittings, and recommended brake fluid?
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Howard Carter
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
nice landing, i give it 5 points for grace and 5 for origianlity. Simone, whatdo
you think?.
-----Original Message-----
>From: rickpitcher <zodie@adelphia.net>
>Sent: Jul 14, 2007 6:44 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: First flight... not so good
>
>
>I got a phone call a couple hours ago asking if my red and white Zodiac was still
safe in the hangar. Turns out another Zodiac 601 HDS was taking it's first
flight at a local airpark when the engine quit. The plane ended up on the roof
of a house just a couple hundred feet short of the runway. The pilot is OK,
just a few scratches and bruises. The plane didn't fare as well.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123825#123825
>
>
>Attachments:
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>http://forums.matronics.com//files/ffz2_104.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/ffz1_426.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Photos from Arlington 2007 ( Saturday ) |
Thanks for sharing the great photos, John.
Dave Clay
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Anybody that maybe concern about paying WW a deposit for an order of parts,
I paid by way of pay-pal $4,000. to Flycorvair for a corvair f w f that I
ordered
it took longer than I or WW want it to but as a return I got one of the most
beautiful corvair engine
around. WW and his wife are very nice person, and he go out of his way to
please his customers,trust me he will not
run away with your money. If you are thinking in going with WW corvair or to
order parts or a f w f from William Waynne save your self or WW some mental
disturbance by ordering months ahead of the time that
the part will be needed. I am so happy the way that my order came out, the
extra time I had to way
all ready had fade out of my brain.
And what can I say about Kevin the guy who assemble the corvair engine and
Gus of Flywithgus.com
you have to look very hard if you want to find somebody as nice as those two
guys.
So this is a very happy ending for a corvair F W F order.
Ralph Mirabal
601 hd tdo
Miami,FL
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Greetings Mr. Pitcher,
When posting doctored images, please anotate them as such to prevent any
confusion between them and actual photographs.
I believe that the "photos" you posted offer definitive proof that a
plane (which had an N#) hit a house.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst"
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First flight... not so good
>
> [quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]I don't see a N # on that plane. Do you
> know what it is?
>
> Jeff
> quote]
>
> Yeah, I airbrushed the N-numbers off of the tail before posting the pix.
> No need to identify the owner at this time. I'm sure it'll all come out
> in an NTSB review sometime soon.
> I'll post more info if something definitive comes up.
>
> Rick Pitcher
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123843#123843
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
raymondj(at)frontiernet.n wrote:
> Greetings Mr. Pitcher,
>
> When posting doctored images, please anotate them as such to prevent any
> confusion between them and actual photographs.
>
>
> do not archive
> ---
Sorry.
I hereby annotate the photo as "doctored" by removing the N-number before everyone
got a chance to speculate why John Doe (not his real name) had problems with
his first flight. I really didn't think it was neccessary.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
[quote="rickpitcher"]
Afterfxllc(at)aol.com wrote:
> I don't see a N # on that plane. Do you know what it is?
>
> Jeff
> quote]
>
> Yeah, I airbrushed the N-numbers off of the tail before posting the pix. No need
to identify the owner at this time. I'm sure it'll all come out in an NTSB
review sometime soon.
> I'll post more info if something definitive comes up.
>
> Rick Pitcher
> Do not archive
More information here:
http://www.avpress.com/n/15/0715_s8.hts
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 brakes |
They use Matco brake and wheel assemblies. Surely this is specified in the plans?
The fluid is detailed with the Matco spec sheets, red aviation fluid as used in
cessnas etc.
The nylon style brake lines on my model exit the fuselage through a grommet aft
of the landing gear box section and have no external support. I dont think the
701 cruises fast enough to need any.
Ralph
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Ralph - CH701 / 2200a
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Raymond,
If they are "doctored images" and not "actual photographs" then why do
believe they offer definitive proof of anything?
I know that email is terrible at communicating intent, but you appear to be
chastising Mr. Pitcher. If so, please spare us the holier-than-thou
attitude. He was doing something he felt was appropriate in keeping the
identity of the poor builder confidential for now, while still informing the
list of a significant event of interest to all of us. While noting up front
that he had removed the N number from the photograph would have been
helpful, he is not trying to deceive anyone.
If your post was merely intended as a primer in photojournalistic ethics in
the digital age, my sincerest apologies.
Michael in NH
601XL languishing in basement during the summer...
don't archive this either
On 7/15/07, raymondj <raymondj@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>
> Greetings Mr. Pitcher,
>
> When posting doctored images, please anotate them as such to prevent
> any
> confusion between them and actual photographs.
>
> I believe that the "photos" you posted offer definitive proof that a
> plane (which had an N#) hit a house.
>
> Raymond Julian
> Kettle River, MN
>
> "Hope for the best,
> but prepare for the worst"
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:27 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First flight... not so good
>
>
> >
> > [quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]I don't see a N # on that plane. Do you
> > know what it is?
> >
> > Jeff
> > quote]
> >
> > Yeah, I airbrushed the N-numbers off of the tail before posting the pix.
> > No need to identify the owner at this time. I'm sure it'll all come out
> > in an NTSB review sometime soon.
> > I'll post more info if something definitive comes up.
> >
> > Rick Pitcher
> > Do not archive
>
>
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I ordered some parts from WW a while back and paid for them with by check. I
don't have my parts yet, but he hasn't cashed the checks yet either. Grace
acknowledged receipt when I saw them at Sun-n-Fun. I have ordered more parts
since and will probably order a mount and a baffle kit this week.
I think worrying about WW absconding with your money is a total waste of
time.
Carroll Jernigan
601XL Corvair
Lenoir City, TN
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Michael,
My email to Mr. Pitcher was to express my preferences for annotating
images.
I assumed no malice or intent to decieve by Mr. Pitcher, which is
why I took the substance of the images as truthful and correct and
commented that they offered definative proof of the event.
Mr. Pitcher made his intent clear. I did not chastise him for his
decision.
I have no credentials to offer anyone advice on photojournalistic
ethics. It is appropriate for me to make Mr. Pitcher aware of my
preferences.
If, in the future, I should choose to chastise someone should I
check with you first? You have indicated that you speak for "us"(whoever
that is) when deciding which of my attitudes the list should be spared.
I hope I have made my intent clear.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Valentine
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: First flight... not so good
Raymond,
If they are "doctored images" and not "actual photographs" then why do
believe they offer definitive proof of anything?
I know that email is terrible at communicating intent, but you appear
to be chastising Mr. Pitcher. If so, please spare us the
holier-than-thou attitude. He was doing something he felt was
appropriate in keeping the identity of the poor builder confidential for
now, while still informing the list of a significant event of interest
to all of us. While noting up front that he had removed the N number
from the photograph would have been helpful, he is not trying to deceive
anyone.
If your post was merely intended as a primer in photojournalistic
ethics in the digital age, my sincerest apologies.
Michael in NH
601XL languishing in basement during the summer...
don't archive this either
On 7/15/07, raymondj <raymondj@frontiernet.net> wrote:
<raymondj@frontiernet.net>
Greetings Mr. Pitcher,
When posting doctored images, please anotate them as such to
prevent any
confusion between them and actual photographs.
I believe that the "photos" you posted offer definitive proof
that a
plane (which had an N#) hit a house.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst"
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First flight... not so good
zodie@adelphia.net>
>
> [quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]I don't see a N # on that plane.
Do you
> know what it is?
>
> Jeff
> quote]
>
> Yeah, I airbrushed the N-numbers off of the tail before posting
the pix.
> No need to identify the owner at this time. I'm sure it'll all
come out
> in an NTSB review sometime soon.
> I'll post more info if something definitive comes up.
>
> Rick Pitcher
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Trailering the 701 |
I am going to take a long vacation north into Canada and Alaska and would like
to take my 701. Dose any one have any experience with trailering the 701 for extended
time and over rough roads? Ive looked at the folding wing MOD from Zenith
and Im not to sure its up to a trip like that. Your thoughts and experience
on the subject would be appreciated.
Thanks
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: First flight... not so good |
Thanks for the reply. Back to building and dreaming.
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "rickpitcher" <zodie@adelphia.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 5:05 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First flight... not so good
>
>
> raymondj(at)frontiernet.n wrote:
>> Greetings Mr. Pitcher,
>>
>> When posting doctored images, please anotate them as such to prevent
>> any
>> confusion between them and actual photographs.
>>
>>
>> do not archive
>> ---
>
>
> Sorry.
> I hereby annotate the photo as "doctored" by removing the N-number before
> everyone got a chance to speculate why John Doe (not his real name) had
> problems with his first flight. I really didn't think it was neccessary.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123975#123975
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Canadian Pricing of Kits |
Hi Ron and everyone else on the list, I have just arrived home from
Arlington, during the shows I only receive E-Mail directly addressed to
Can-Zac, I normally will not get the other 500 E-Mails until my return
home. So Ron I apologize for the delay in reply. The Pricing on all of
Can-Zac's sales are calculated on day of sale. Right now with the
Canadian Dollar rising so quickly it is hard to keep the websites
pricing updated, plus add shows like Arlington and Oshkosh and there is
just not enough hours in the day.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lalonde
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Canadian Pricing of Kits
Hi Mark
With the Canadian dollar being close to par with the US dollar, will the
price of the 601/701 kits
be changed?? Or have they already?
Ron
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