---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/20/07: 33 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:33 AM - Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 2. 04:43 AM - Inverted Boot !! (Zed Smith) 3. 05:03 AM - Re: Facet fuel pump (Aaron Gustafson) 4. 05:16 AM - Re: I want out off this Fucking group (Robert Schoenberger) 5. 05:46 AM - Turnbuckles (wade jones) 6. 06:08 AM - Re: Inverted Boot !! (Southern Reflections) 7. 06:22 AM - Ron Hoskins (robert stone) 8. 06:58 AM - Re: Leveling (4rcsimmons@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)) 9. 07:34 AM - Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (Gig Giacona) 10. 07:41 AM - Re: Facet fuel pump (Gig Giacona) 11. 08:08 AM - Oil cooler lines (David Brooks) 12. 09:07 AM - Re: Oil cooler lines (Jaybannist@cs.com) 13. 09:31 AM - Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (Gig Giacona) 14. 09:36 AM - Re: Oil cooler lines (Dino Bortolin) 15. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 16. 10:46 AM - Re: CH640: Findings at 2nd condition inspection (Christian Tremblay) 17. 11:02 AM - Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. (ashontz) 18. 11:31 AM - Re: Aircraft financing (ashontz) 19. 11:39 AM - Re: 701 bungee instal tool. Cheap and effortless (ashontz) 20. 11:59 AM - Re: lightening hole dies, ATTN: Ron Culver (ashontz) 21. 12:45 PM - Re: Oil cooler lines (David Brooks) 22. 01:03 PM - Re: Turnbuckles (wade jones) 23. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. (Trainnut01@aol.com) 24. 04:21 PM - Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. (Aircraft Spruce) 25. 04:53 PM - 640 stabilator balance bracket (Rob St Denis) 26. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. (robert stone) 27. 05:13 PM - Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket (LarryMcFarland) 28. 05:28 PM - Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket (robertstdenis) 29. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket (Craig Payne) 30. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket (Carlos Sa) 31. 06:21 PM - Please Clean Up The List! (George Race) 32. 08:32 PM - Re: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (n801bh@netzero.com) 33. 09:17 PM - Re: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list (NYTerminat@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:29 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list This is a list of all the fittings you should need for the WW Fuel system and it also includes the fittings for the 3/8 Alum. fuel line and the 1/4 inch Alum. Break lines. Sumit Racing ALUM UNION #6 FLARE/#6 FLARE AER-FBM2052 2 $4.25 $8.50 Sumit Racing ADAPTER AER-FBM3155 1 $23.69 $23.69 Sumit Racing TUBE SLEEVE 3/8 LINE 6AN PKG 2 AER-FBM3671 6 $3.25 $19.50 Sumit Racing TUBE NUT 3/8 LINE TO 6AN PKG 2 AER-FBM3675 6 $2.88 $17.28 Sumit Racing WIRE SET UNIV RED 90 MOR-73219 1 $55.95 $55.95 Sumit Racing COIL WIRE KIT SPIRAL CORE MOR-73235 1 $19.39 $19.39 Sumit Racing AUTOMATIC COIL SELECTOR MSD-8210 1 $55.88 $55.88 Sumit Racing FIREWALL FEED THRU RED MSD-8211 1 $11.88 $11.88 Sumit Racing 90 DEGREE BULKHEAD UNION -6 AN EAR-983306ERL 1 $7.88 $7.88 Sumit Racing -6 AN LOCKNUT PR AER-FBM2100 1 $5.25 $5.25 Sumit Racing -6 AN FEMALE FLARE SWIVEL AER-FBM2915 3 $8.95 $26.85 Sumit Racing SPARK PLUG ACF-R44F 6 $2.95 $17.70 Sumit Racing FITTING AER-FBM2183 1 $8.50 $8.50 Sumit Racing 90DEG FEMALE FLARE SWVL -06 AER-FBM2978 1 $18.39 $18.39 Sumit Racing 2-1/16"FUEL PRESS 0-15 PSI WHT ATM-5761 1 $182.95 $182.95 Sumit Racing END LINK GROMMETS RED ENS-9-8105R 1 $8.95 $8.95 Sumit Racing FORD STARTER RELAY ACF-SW3 1 $29.95 $29.95 Sumit Racing 90 DEGREE BULKHEAD UNION -3 AN EAR-983303ERL 2 $7.50 $15.00 Sumit Racing BULKHEAD NUT, -3 AN EAR-592403ERL 1 $2.95 $2.95 Sumit Racing TUBE NUT -3 AN EAR-581803ERL 3 $3.25 $9.75 Sumit Racing TUBE SLEEVE -3 AN EAR-581803ERL 3 $1.75 $5.25 Total $551.44 Aircraft Spruce FACET FUEL PUMP FP-40108 2 $13.40 $26.80 Aircraft Spruce OIL BREATHER SEPARATOR ACS 10570 1 $42.60 $42.60 Wicks Aircraft ANDAIR GASCOLATOR AND-GAS-M 1 $158.50 $158.50 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:37 AM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Inverted Boot !! Matt, Thanks for the Un-Subscribe assistance to the former member. Actually I thought the instructions were written on the heel. Zed Smith/701/R912/90+%/etc/do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:57 AM PST US From: "Aaron Gustafson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Facet fuel pump I'm using a 40106 fuel pump (4.5 - 6 PSI, don't know about internal check valve) in each wing root with a check valve downstream next to it ( same MA3-SPA carb). The check valve prevents the possibility of fuel transfer from tank to tank and with two fuel pumps there is redundancy in the system. At this time I simply have a DPDT switch which controls both the power to one tank or the other and at the same time controls which fuel sender is read by the gauge. I plan to add a separate switch to be able to run both pumps at once during critical times. I will have a different circuit for this second switch right from the battery and use 2 diodes to prevent feed back between the two circuits. This will give complete redundancy in all things but the battery. Even that would be possible with a second battery and diode arraignment. My local auto supply caries Facet pumps but higher price than Wicks or ACS. Aaron Gustafson 601 HD 21 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: VideoFlyer@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Facet fuel pump I think there might be a misconception about the 40108 Facet fuel pump. The 40108 Facet pump does NOT have a check valve in it. See the specs on their web site: http://www.facet-purolator.com/solidstate.asp I am using two of them...one on each wing tank. If I start with an empty tank on the left hand side...and run the right fuel pump, it pumps fuel into the left tank. I'm not sure if this is a problem or not. It seems to supply the carburetor (MA3-SPA) just fine...but it also transfers fuel to the other tank. Has anyone else noted this? I'm wondering if the 40147 or 40148 might work as well, or better. Does anyone know of another supplier, besides Aircraft Spruce? Dave 601XL/Corvair ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 7/18/2007 3:30 PM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:16 AM PST US From: Robert Schoenberger Subject: Re: Zenith-List: I want out off this Fucking group Thank you, thank you . . . the rest of the List. do not archive Matt Dralle wrote: > > > >> "I want out off" >> Please, move away from the aircraft... >> > > I have unsubscribed him. > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin > > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:32 AM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Zenith-List: Turnbuckles Hello group ,getting ready to order my control turnbuckles . Questions ;page 6-B-23 shows 6 turns buckles identified by the letter F and one by the letter E .The parts list shows three AN140 and four AN130 ,which is correct or what should be ordered .I would assume that the 800# and length of 4 1/2" would work . Wade Jones South Texas 601XL plans building Cont. 0200 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:55 AM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Inverted Boot !! You would think a" HEEL"could read instructions off a heel.... Joe N101HD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zed Smith" Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:41 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Inverted Boot !! > > Matt, > > Thanks for the Un-Subscribe assistance to the former member. > Actually I thought the instructions were written on the heel. > > Zed Smith/701/R912/90+%/etc/do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:24 AM PST US From: "robert stone" Subject: Zenith-List: Ron Hoskins Ladies and Gentlemen I can understand Ron's fustration providing he was following the procedures shown on the bottom of every post but what I cannot understand is his complete disregard for the fact that there are some people like the ladies who were very much offended by his remark. I think we are all well rid of him. Now I hope we can get back to the exchange of ideas and fixes because that's what we are all about. Tracy Stone Harker Heights, Tx ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:58 AM PST US From: 4rcsimmons@comcast.net (Rich Simmons) Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Leveling Sheez! It's a wonder the knowledege that can flow from . . . nevermind! Actually, I got some really good information off the list from list users. Thanks. The water/tube method for leveling those far away places works awsome. Now, whne I fly, I wont have to add a lot of left/right/up/down trim like I too have had to do to my R/C planeas that I repaired after crashing because I had too many beers and could only fly in circles around the runway till I lnaded/crashed or crashed landed!. Really, thanks to those with the useful information and to the others, thanks for the laughs! -- Thanks, Rich Simmons
Sheez! It's a wonder the knowledege that can flow from . . . nevermind!
 
Actually, I got some really good information off the list from list users.
 
Thanks. The water/tube method for leveling those far away places works awsome.
 
Now, whne I fly, I wont have to add a lot of left/right/up/down trim like I too have had to do to my R/C planeas that I repaired after crashing because I had too many beers and could only fly in circles around the runway till I lnaded/crashed or crashed landed!.
 
Really, thanks to those with the useful information and to the others, thanks for the laughs!
 
--
Thanks,
Rich Simmons
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:30 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list From: "Gig Giacona" Great list. Any idea how many feet of the two types lines you need. Also, do you order the lines to fit or total length and cut it? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124941#124941 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:31 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Facet fuel pump From: "Gig Giacona" Dave, I'm confused. Do you not have a fuel valve between the tanks? I would think you fuel system would look like this. Left Tank Right Tank Pump Pump Fuel Selector Gasolator Carb or Pumb then Carb How is fuel going back through the fuel selctor? VideoFlyer(at)aol.com wrote: > I think there might be a misconception about the 40108 Facet fuel pump. The 40108 Facet pump does NOT have a check valve in it. See the specs on their web site: > > http://www.facet-purolator.com/solidstate.asp (http://www.facet-purolator.com/solidstate.asp) > > I am using two of them...one on each wing tank. If I start with an empty tank on the left hand side...and run the right fuel pump, it pumps fuel into the left tank. I'm not sure if this is a problem or not. It seems to supply the carburetor (MA3-SPA) just fine...but it also transfers fuel to the other tank. Has anyone else noted this? I'm wondering if the 40147 or 40148 might work as well, or better. Does anyone know of another supplier, besides Aircraft Spruce? > > Dave > 601XL/Corvair > > -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124942#124942 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:39 AM PST US From: "David Brooks" Subject: Zenith-List: Oil cooler lines All - I have a query that isn't Zenith (or even airplane) related that I think you might be able to help out with. I have a Miata that is kitted out as a track-day/race school car and I recently replaced the stock radiator with a big 2 1/4 " aluminum race radiator that has an oil cooler built in to it (see this linkif curious). The oil lines that Flyin Miata sell don't work out in my particular car because of some other modifications (like a oil filter relocation kit) that are lurking under the hood. So my question to you good folks is this: Where can I get braided stainless oil lines (AN8 fittings, 1/2" interior diameter hose, 90 degree fittings on one end) made to order to length? And what is the best way to measure for the appropriate length? I obviously don't have a straight shot from end point to end point to get an easy measure with a tape. Thanks Dave Obviously, do not archive. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:12 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Oil cooler lines Dave. Try Summitracing.com. Choose "departments" & "plumbing." - Jay in Dallas "David Brooks" wrote: >All - > >I have a query that isn't Zenith (or even airplane) related that I think you >might be able to help out with. > >I have a Miata that is kitted out as a track-day/race school car and I >recently replaced the stock radiator with a big 2 1/4 " aluminum race >radiator that has an oil cooler built in to it (see this >linkif >curious). The oil lines that Flyin Miata sell don't work out in my >particular car because of some other modifications (like a oil filter >relocation kit) that are lurking under the hood. > >So my question to you good folks is this: Where can I get braided stainless >oil lines (AN8 fittings, 1/2" interior diameter hose, 90 degree fittings on >one end) made to order to length? And what is the best way to measure for >the appropriate length? I obviously don't have a straight shot from end >point to end point to get an easy measure with a tape. > >Thanks > >Dave > >Obviously, do not archive. > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:32 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list From: "Gig Giacona" I also note that the last two items on the list for Summit have the same part number. Sumit Racing TUBE NUT -3 AN EAR-581803ERL 3 $3.25 $9.75 Sumit Racing TUBE SLEEVE -3 AN EAR-581803ERL 3 $1.75 $5.25 Doing a little looking on their site I think that the sleeve is probably EAR-561903ERL. Could you check that? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124958#124958 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:06 AM PST US From: "Dino Bortolin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Oil cooler lines Dave, You could buy a length of clear tubing (3/8") at your local hardware store and use it to figure out your hose routing. Trim to length or mark it off and measure the length of the good hose you need. Dino On 7/20/07, David Brooks wrote: > > ... And what is the best way to measure for the appropriate length? I > obviously don't have a straight shot from end point to end point to get an > easy measure with a tape. > > Thanks > > Dave > > Obviously, do not archive. > > > * > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:59 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list Your right That's the part # I have this in a spread sheet and that one slipped thru the cracks. Also I just bought 20 ft of the tubing and cut to length. Also when I built the wings I put a disconnect between the wing and fuel selector on both wings so it includes the parts for that also. If you go the metal tube route you will have to get an adapter to go from the bulkhead fitting to the nylon tubing that go to the break cylinders. Jeff ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:20 AM PST US From: Christian Tremblay Subject: RE: Zenith-List: CH640: Findings at 2nd condition inspection Hi Steve, Thanks a lot for taking time to do a status on your 450 hours inspection. I find it positive, I think it is very low number of problems, it's sound good. Can I ask you to provide us a photo on point 2 about clearance of panels. I want to verify if this need a plan modification to guaranty clearance, and eventually I want to document this adjustment it in my web site. Thanks again Christian Tremblay A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan http://www.zodiac640.com/ -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de steveadams Envoy: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:07 PM : zenith-list@matronics.com Objet: Zenith-List: CH640: Findings at 2nd condition inspection I just completed the second condition inspection on my CH640. I have 450 hours on the tach. Everything looked good except for a few items requiring attention. If anyone is interested, here is what I found. 1. New brake pads. I probably could have gone another 6 months, but figured I might as well change them now. This was the first set of pads. The original tires are still fine. 2. There are 2 panels on the aft side fuselage which cover the elevator trim mechanism. On the ground there is good clearance between these panels and an underlying bracket that attaches the trim tabs to the trim tab bellcrank. However, in flight they must be bowing in enough to rub on the bracket and have etched a groove on one side of the bracket. I am going to put in a new bracket and put a 1/8" piece of teflon on the bracket to prevent wear in the future. 3. The front spinner bulkhead had a crack extending from one of the screw holes inward and 1/3 of the way around the bulkhead. I had noticed the last few flights that at some rpm's there was a bit more vibration than I am used to. I am going to replace the bulkhead. Interestingly, I took a flight this morning without the spinner to see how much difference it made. To my surprise I couldn't detect a difference in speed with a quick run at 4500 feet, and CHT's were a bit lower. Even though it looks ugly, I may just fly without a spinner for a while. 4. The throttle cable was not pushing the throttle all the way to the stop at full power. It was a very small gap, but every little bit of power helps. I just adjusted the linkage. That's it. Now I can get back to flying. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124799#124799 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:02:34 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. From: "ashontz" p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att wrote: > Apparently Aircraft Spruce has a new policy for shipping orders via > USPS. In this case (by far the least expensive method of shipping > small orders) they now take two business days to process the order > instead of one. They prepare it on the first day and get it to the > post office on the second day. This is a big reduction in service, > in my experience, since they used to process and ship USPS orders in > the same day up to now. > > Perhaps they don't have any competition? > > Paul > XL fuselage > do not archive They've probably cut back on staff because we're moving into a long overdue recession. -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124978#124978 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Aircraft financing From: "ashontz" Considering you can build an airframe from scratch for about $4,500, why would you need financing? $200/month for 24 months would pay for it. That's about as fast as you can work anyway. Even if you bought kit sections, the time it takes to build one section you can save up for the next section, so all you need to do is save for the first section just to get started. While you're saving for the first section you can get your workshop in order. [quote="ben_ramler2002(at)yahoo.c"]Here's question for all Finance experts out there, How come most aircraft financing are more incline to offer financing like zenith vs something like Kolb, or ferguson aircraft? Do they base it off of reputatuion? thanks, Ben Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48224/*http://sims.yahoo.com/) > [b] -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124984#124984 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:28 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 701 bungee instal tool. Cheap and effortless From: "ashontz" Geoff Heap wrote: > A breaker bar does the job in seconds (180 swivel). I cut the handle off a long one so that it just misses the engine mount. The size of the square is a nice fit into the tube that holds the bungee. Insert the square in the tube. slip the bungee over the handle and lift. As the handle moves up past the perpendicular position to the strut, the bungee slides over the end and onto the tube. Done. No sharp edges as the swivel area of the breaker bar is a little bigger diameter than the tube. It's really effortles and needs only one hand. Taking the bungee off again??? Probably no help. I didn't try that yet.....Geoff Bet you a shoehorn (an actual smooth stainless steel shoehorn) could be fitted to the breaker bar and slid under the bungee cord and removed the opposite way it was put on. ;) -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124987#124987 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:59:39 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: lightening hole dies, ATTN: Ron Culver From: "ashontz" Nice looking dies. They look just like the one's I'm using. To do the squash I just put a big 3/4 inch bolt through the center and torqued down. Why the need for the car? A big bolt works just fine. n4546v(at)mindspring.com wrote: > I'm crushed, CRUSHED that Doug considers my "gravity powered lightning hole > press" method as "noise" on the list. The bigger point is that nearly every > builder has these tools (a truck and a hydraulic jack) at their disposal, so > they can accomplish the task with ZERO additional investment. Sure it's > overkill, but you can do it without spending a dime, nor juggling "C" clamps > AND a vise. When you are pressing the lightning holes in a 12' wing spar > web, how handy is that to hold in a bench vise? > > I am attaching the pic of my operation for the benefit of the new guys. > This is again, old hat for the list oldtimers who will cringe at viewing it > again, I apologize in advance. > > The steel dies shown were used as shown, but they can just as easily be used > in a hydraulic press or other pressing method. > > They were made from ZA prints and have been used by several builders so far > with no problems. > > Attn: Ron Culver: > > Do you have ALL your parts of the project ready for flanging or how long > will you need to keep the dies? > > They are currently "in the field" on loan to a 701 builder who has finished > with them and is "waiting instructions" on who to forward them to. > > If you are interested, please reply with info. I loan them out to ZA > builders on this list for shipping only. I prefer that they not stay with a > builder for years, but months is certainly not a problem. > > I lent them to a 601 builder who had a problem with one of the dies. One of > the holes requiring flanging on a 601 is within a channel, so that > particular die needs to be altered (edges trimmed) to fit within the > channel. If they ever arrive "home", I will do this conversion to work with > the 601. As they are now, they do everything required on a 701. > > Best Regards, > > Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas, NV > > > > > I also found that the noise on this forum about the need for hydraulic > > presses is overkill. So is using a car to provide the pressure. > > > > > -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124990#124990 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:48 PM PST US From: "David Brooks" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Oil cooler lines I love this list. I got several great suggestions on how to measure and a pointer to the parts. All in less than five hours. Thanks so much for the super quick replies. (Jay - I have spent more money at Summit Racing than I think I ever want to add up and I never wandered in to the "Plumbing" department. Now I know.) Dave On 7/20/07, Dino Bortolin wrote: > > Dave, > > You could buy a length of clear tubing (3/8") at your local hardware store > and use it to figure out your hose routing. Trim to length or mark it off > and measure the length of the good hose you need. > > Dino > > On 7/20/07, David Brooks wrote: > > > > ... And what is the best way to measure for the appropriate length? I > > obviously don't have a straight shot from end point to end point to get an > > easy measure with a tape. > > > > Thanks > > > > Dave > > > > Obviously, do not archive. > > > > > > > > * > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:41 PM PST US From: "wade jones" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Turnbuckles Hello group ,disregard any responses to this request .I ordered them today from ZAC ,that way I can be assured they are the correct turnbuckles . Wade Jones South Texas 601XL plans building Cont. 0200 ----- Original Message ----- From: wade jones To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:45 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Turnbuckles Hello group ,getting ready to order my control turnbuckles . Questions ;page 6-B-23 shows 6 turns buckles identified by the letter F and one by the letter E .The parts list shows three AN140 and four AN130 ,which is correct or what should be ordered .I would assume that the 800# and length of 4 1/2" would work . Wade Jones South Texas 601XL plans building Cont. 0200 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:57 PM PST US From: Trainnut01@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. I placed an order with ACS Sunday night (online). Received it Tuesday morning. (UPS) Carroll Jernigan do not archive ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:35 PM PST US From: "Aircraft Spruce" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. A customer recently posted a comment regarding Aircraft Spruce's handling of orders shipped by the USPS. We want to assure all of our customers that we have made no policy changes regarding USPS packages. Shipments by UPS, DHL, FedEx, etc., leave our building the same day they are packaged due to the fact the carrier picks up late in the day; conversely, the post office is closed by the time USPS packages are completed each day. Therefore, we have to transport USPS packages to the post office the next morning. We appreciate the business we receive from the Zenith builders, and if anyone has any questions or suggestions, please contact us at any time. Aircraft Spruce Customer Service Email: custserv@aircraftspruce.com Phone: 800-861-3192 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:11 PM PST US From: "Rob St Denis" Subject: Zenith-List: 640 stabilator balance bracket OK ... made a bit of an error today ... Was drilling the bracket to the spar and noticed that the hole just nicked the doubler and didn't settle itself in the middle. Wondering what I should do ? ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:17 PM PST US From: "robert stone" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. To whoever wrote the message below, not to worry. Everyone out here in aviation land knows that you guys are the best supply house in the country for airplane builders and restorers. The business Jim Irwin's dad started from scratch reminds me of Wal-mart in this way. You provide goods we need at fair prices and you grow and grow. I really don't see how your competition keeps up with you. Bob Stone Harker Heights, Tx ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300 ----- Original Message ----- From: Aircraft Spruce To: Zenith-List@matronics.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Service Slow Down from Aircraft Spruce. To: Zenith Builders A customer recently posted a comment regarding Aircraft Spruce's handling of orders shipped by the USPS. We want to assure all of our customers that we have made no policy changes regarding USPS packages. Shipments by UPS, DHL, FedEx, etc., leave our building the same day they are packaged due to the fact the carrier picks up late in the day; conversely, the post office is closed by the time USPS packages are completed each day. Therefore, we have to transport USPS packages to the post office the next morning. We appreciate the business we receive from the Zenith builders, and if anyone has any questions or suggestions, please contact us at any time. Aircraft Spruce Customer Service Email: custserv@aircraftspruce.com Phone: 800-861-3192 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:20 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 640 stabilator balance bracket Hi Rob, You could put a digital image up so that fair assessments and replies would be available to you. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com do not archive Rob St Denis wrote: > OK ... made a bit of an error today ... > > Was drilling the bracket to the spar and noticed that the hole just > nicked the doubler and didn't settle itself in the middle. Wondering > what I should do ? ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:09 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket From: "robertstdenis" here we go Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125039#125039 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:43 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket > here we go I didn't get a picture or link in the e-mail from the list. But the web access to the list gives this link: http://gallery.iahu.ca/main.php/d/5365-2/00001.jpg What ever ideas the list comes up with I'd call the factory for another point of view. Myself, I'm not wild about that nick in the doubler. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:04 PM PST US From: "Carlos Sa" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 640 stabilator balance bracket Do call ZAC - they might tell you to file the area so it is smooth, just like when you file nicks of a propeller. do not archive Happy building Carlos CH601-HD, plans (baking an acrylic cake tonight) Montreal, Canada On 20/07/07, robertstdenis wrote: > > > here we go > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125039#125039 > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:43 PM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Please Clean Up The List! To the list participants: Vulgar and disgusting is the only way that I can think of to describe the verbiage I am seeing on the list. Can we all please ask the Moderator to delete all messages and references containing the vulgarity displayed here this past week? I find the "7 day list browser" very convenient to use with the list. I just don't wish to see this stuff for the next 7 days. Thanks, George Race Albion, MI Kit Building CH-701 N73EX (reserved) ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:58 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: WW 601 Fuel and Ign System Parts list This goes without saying,, but. One should never tell the salesman when ordering anything it's for an experimental aircraft. Some companies wil l just shrug it off and sell ya the parts, I know for a fact Summit will NOT sell you anything when they hear its going on a plane. YMMV do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Gig Giacona" wrote: net> I also note that the last two items on the list for Summit have the same part number. Sumit Racing TUBE NUT -3 AN =EF=BD EAR-581803ERL 3 $3.25 $9.75 Sumit Racing TUBE SLEEVE -3 AN =EF=BD EAR-581803ERL 3 $1.75 $5.25 Doing a little looking on their site I think that the sleeve is probably EAR-561903ERL. Could you check that? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124958#124958 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== ===========

This goes without saying,, but.  One should never tell the salesman when ordering anything it's for an experimental aircraft. Some companies will just shrug it off and sell ya the parts, I know for a fa ct Summit will NOT sell you anything when they hear its going on a plane . YMMV

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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair .com

-- "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.ne t> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted&nb sp;by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>

I also note that the last two it ems on the list for Summit have the&n bsp;same part number.

Sumit Racing TUBE  NUT -3 AN =EF=BD EAR-581803ERL 3 $3.25& nbsp;$9.75 
Sumit Racing TUBE SLEEVE -3  ;AN =EF=BD EAR-581803ERL 3 $1.75 $5.25 

Doing a little looking on their si te I think that the sleeve is probabl y EAR-561903ERL. Could you check that?

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W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona
601XL  Under Construction
See my progress at www.pe oamerica.net/N601WR




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