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1. 05:49 AM - Paint (Bob)
2. 05:53 AM - Re: CH701 FWF (Gordon)
3. 07:48 AM - Re: Re: Interior Upholstery (japhillipsga@aol.com)
4. 10:30 AM - Re: Interior Upholstery (alex_01)
5. 11:38 AM - Re: Paint (Robert Schoenberger)
6. 01:21 PM - XL Aileron Travel (Chuck & Lana Maggart)
7. 03:34 PM - AMD Patriot (Ken Arnold)
8. 04:19 PM - Re: AMD Patriot (jsight)
9. 04:21 PM - Re: Scratchbuilders - Leading Edge Skin Vacuum Forming (leinad)
10. 04:30 PM - Re: Location for wing-mounted landing lights? (leinad)
11. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: AMD Patriot (Ryan Vechinski)
12. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: AMD Patriot (NYTerminat@aol.com)
13. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: AMD Patriot (Ryan Vechinski)
14. 07:50 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 08/06/07 (EMAproducts@aol.com)
15. 08:17 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 08/06/07 (David Mikesell)
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A gentleman who managed the Cessna paint shop for years and now owns a
Sherwin Williams store recommended the Sherwin Williams DTM Acrylic enam
el.
It's an industrial and marine enamel with good gloss, easy to roll, brus
h
or spray and at $60.00 per galleon, a good buy.
Have only tried small items so far but I'm happy.
Bob, Wichita
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No instructions with mine, but I got a CD with photos. It took some head
scratching, but between the zenith drawings and the photos it all
eventually makes sense. Some of the parts I received were obviously for
something other than a 701 which added to the confusion. I had to
contact Woodcomp for instructions and documentation for the prop which
they emailed to me, but in the end it worked out and I'm happy with the
results.
Gordon
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From: John Swanson
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: CH701 FWF
I have the fire wall forward kit from Sky shops, bought at sun & Fun
in 06.
I did not get any instructions with it and need help. Who else has
installed the
Czech kit on their 701. Did you get any instructions?
John Swanson
CH701
Upper Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Interior Upholstery |
Wes, it really depends on how much of a self doer you are. I have built many hot
rods and re did many interiors so doing my XL was not much of a challenge. I
cut out thin cardborad templates for all the pieces, re cut them to fit from
thicker?light fiber board, affixed mounting points and padded and glued light
fabric to the boards. Took a sweaty weekend. Between velco, double sided tape
and a few screws I padded and covered most everything. The most difficult process
is form fitting floor carpet over the heel pad. I developed a technique to
make a form fitted carpet that worked out perfect. Best regards, Bill of Georgia
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From: dredmoody@cox.net
Sent: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 4:01 pm
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Interior Upholstery
They used some sort of Naugahyde on mine. Has to end the lives of hundreds of
little helpless Naugas but it was worth the sacrifice.
Dred
> bressler(at)wyoming.com wrote:
> > Guys & Gals:
> > Does anyone out there know or recommend interior upholstery for the 601 XL
besides the FlightCrafter package? We object to the feel of fine leather.
Thanks.
> > DO NOT ARCHIVE Wes & Lurlene Bressler
> > Big parts done & on the main
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| Subject: | Re: Interior Upholstery |
used ALCANTARA a very nice material also good to use when hot as you dont sweat
on it and also good when cold and super easy to keep clean.
you should be able to get from car trim shop as it is used on many cars as OE
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Bob . . . what did he recommend in the way of preping, priming, etc.
Sounds good. Robert Schoenberger 701
Bob wrote:
> A gentleman who managed the Cessna paint shop for years and now owns a
> Sherwin Williams store recommended the Sherwin Williams DTM Acrylic
> enamel. It's an industrial and marine enamel with good gloss, easy to
> roll, brush or spray and at $60.00 per galleon, a good buy.
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> Have only tried small items so far but I'm happy.
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| Subject: | XL Aileron Travel |
List, I am rigging the control cables now and find that I can not get
full aileron deflection before the "Y" stick hits the sides of the
console. It looks like I am around 2 to 4 degrees short of the 11.5
degree travel required. One possible solution would be to lower the
front sides of the console by one or two inches. Anyone else
encountered this situation?
Chuck Maggart, XL/Jabiru3300
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Their new web site: http://sport.aero/specifications.html
Ken CH701 N701LK 75%
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Nice find! And, wow, that looks nice! :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Scratchbuilders - Leading Edge Skin Vacuum Forming |
Debo,
Thanks for posting this link. I'm really psyched about bending my nose skins now.
I've got this task coming up and I was rather apprehensive. I'd come up
with a number of inferior methods and am so glad you posted the yootube link when
you did. I only wish I had know about back when I did the stabelizer.
Thanks again!
Dan Dempsey (do not archive)
I'm also a member of the Sonex builders list and recently there's been some activity
about a really cool vacuum-forming technique for bending leading edge skins.
This technique may be familiar to some, but just having just completed my
wing nose skins, I found myself asking the question - "Is there not a better
way to do this?" This looks like a good way to bend just about any skin you need
to bend, but especially good for doing the 12-foot wing nose skins.
I have not used this technique myself. I'm only including a link because I think
it's a great "thinking outside the box" idea that may help someone else in the
Zenith community. Of course you'll need to adjust the bend radius to suit your
needs and do your own experimenting, but here's the link to the 3-part series
on YouTube. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzToYQ765w
Debo Cox
XL/Corvair Scratchbuilder
Nags Head, NC
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: Location for wing-mounted landing lights? |
Andy,
It looks like you're getting some good feed back here, but I was wondering if you
had considered one other alternative. When doing my light assembly I used
a complete nose rib instead the little peice called for in the plans. This I
lightened with some large flanged lightening holes. I can still reach it from
the wing tip service hole. Then again, being a plans builder meant making just
one more nose rib. Not sure you're going that route.
Dan
> I am going to use (really bright) automotive HID driving lights instead of the
aviation-type lights for my wing-mounted landing and taxi lights. I would like
to have a little more solid structure to hook to for the light mounts. Does
anyone see any structural or operational problem with moving the lights one rib
inboard? That is, placing them between the two most outboard leading edge ribs,
instead of between the most outboard and the tip?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
> N601GE (reserved)
> 601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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That looks really nice! Besides the slightly longer take-off roll, it look
s like everything is better than the 701; cruise speed, payload, top speed.
I wonder what the differences (design-wise) are between this and the 701?
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: AMD Patriot> From: jesse.sightler@gmail.com> Da
te: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 16:16:18 -0700> To: zenith-list@matronics.com> > --> Ze
nith-List message posted by: "jsight" <jesse.sightler@gmail.com>> > Nice fi
nd! And, wow, that looks nice! :-)> > --------> <a href="http://aviationw
orld.blogspot.com">Aviation Blog</a>> > > > > Read this topic online here:>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128017#128017> > > > > > >
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No slats, wheel pants, strut fairings, wheel pants and a sleeker design.
In a message dated 8/7/2007 7:53:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
brothapig@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
That looks really nice! Besides the slightly longer take-off roll, it
looks like everything is better than the 701; cruise speed, payload, top speed.
I wonder what the differences (design-wise) are between this and the 701?
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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They must have made some design changes in order to get a faster Vne...I wo
nder if they could be incorporated into the 701 design...
From: NYTerminat@aol.comDate: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 21:30:38 -0400Subject: Re: Ze
nith-List: Re: AMD PatriotTo: zenith-list@matronics.com
No slats, wheel pants, strut fairings, wheel pants and a sleeker design.
In a message dated 8/7/2007 7:53:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brothapig@H
OTMAIL.COM writes:
That looks really nice! Besides the slightly longer take-off roll, it look
s like everything is better than the 701; cruise speed, payload, top speed.
I wonder what the differences (design-wise) are between this and the 701?
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 08/06/07 |
Time: 08:11:50 AM PST US
From: "David Mikesell" <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ground School DVD's
Having passed the written before solo is a FAA requirement.
David Mikesell
230 Theresa Drive, #6
Cloverdale, CA 95425
209-224-4485
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Sorry David, this is not true. The FAA requires you take a pre-solo written
exam, not the FAA Private Pilots written. For verification go to the FAR's.
Every pilot should own a set of regulations not only for knowledge but to
insure he / she is legal. If you don't want to purchase the FAR's they are
available on many sites for free on the internet.
Elbie Mendenhall
CFI continually since 1962; ATP CE-500, B-737, DC-9
47 years of flying both work & play, 25,000+ hours
EAA 38308 EAA Chapter 782 Flight Advisor
_www.riteangle.com_ (http://www.riteangle.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 08/06/07 |
I corrected that in the next email. I meant to state that most flying
schools insurance require it but the FAA recommends it.
David Mikesell
230 Theresa Drive, #6
Cloverdale, CA 95425
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: EMAproducts@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 7:48 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 38 Msgs - 08/06/07
Time: 08:11:50 AM PST US
From: "David Mikesell" <skyguynca@skyguynca.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Ground School DVD's
Having passed the written before solo is a FAA requirement.
David Mikesell
230 Theresa Drive, #6
Cloverdale, CA 95425
209-224-4485
******************
Sorry David, this is not true. The FAA requires you take a pre-solo
written exam, not the FAA Private Pilots written. For verification go
to the FAR's. Every pilot should own a set of regulations not only for
knowledge but to insure he / she is legal. If you don't want to
purchase the FAR's they are available on many sites for free on the
internet.
Elbie Mendenhall
CFI continually since 1962; ATP CE-500, B-737, DC-9
47 years of flying both work & play, 25,000+ hours
EAA 38308 EAA Chapter 782 Flight Advisor
www.riteangle.com
AOL.com.
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