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1. 04:49 AM - Re: South African Builders (martyn@flight.co.za)
2. 05:34 AM - FW: Zodiac for Sale (Dave New)
3. 06:20 AM - Looking for electrical 14V Horizon (alex_01)
4. 06:27 AM - Re: Location for wing-mounted landing lights? (alex_01)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: 701 builders, bottom fuselage (txpilot)
6. 08:38 AM - Re: XL Aileron Travel (Tim Juhl)
7. 09:33 AM - electrical connections between wings and fuse (john butterfield)
8. 09:53 AM - Re: electrical connections between wings and fuse (SABorns@aol.com)
9. 10:29 AM - Re: in-flight adjustable props (Southern Reflections)
10. 10:31 AM - Re: XL Aileron Travel (Juan Vega)
11. 10:39 AM - Re: electrical connections between wings and fuse (Arthur Olechowski)
12. 10:40 AM - Cowling Mold for a CH-701 (Jay Caldwell)
13. 10:45 AM - Re: electrical connections between wings and fuse (Jaybannist@cs.com)
14. 10:57 AM - Re: Cowling Mold for a CH-701 (Jerry Hey)
15. 11:26 AM - Re: MapSource Waypoint Inputs (BillW)
16. 12:46 PM - Aluminum fuel lines (Bob Duns)
17. 02:00 PM - Re: Aluminum fuel lines (DaveG601XL)
18. 02:55 PM - Re: Aluminum fuel lines (PatrickW)
19. 03:45 PM - Wings & Tail (george may)
20. 04:06 PM - Re: Aluminum fuel lines (LarryMcFarland)
21. 04:35 PM - Re: in-flight adjustable props (LarryMcFarland)
22. 05:07 PM - 701 with rear ring mount engine installation (txpilot)
23. 05:15 PM - Engine Weights? (Don Mountain)
24. 05:39 PM - Re: Engine Weights? (JohnDRead@aol.com)
25. 05:54 PM - Re: Engine Weights? (LarryMcFarland)
26. 06:47 PM - Re: 701 with rear ring mount engine installation (Dan)
27. 08:04 PM - Re: 701 with rear ring mount engine installation (Terry Fogelson)
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| Subject: | South African Builders |
Hi Philip,
Congatulations are in order for getting the Zenith Distribution rights for
SA.
How are the 801's going? Is Angel still involved with your enterprise?
Regards
Martyn Ward
CH 701
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-List message posted by: "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
> Philip Cronje
> Bundu Aviation
> philip@bunduaviation.com
> www.bunduaviation.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> Anybody recall nmaes amnd contact details of South African Zenith
> builders
> at all?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> 4:06 PM
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| Subject: | FW: Zodiac for Sale |
________________________________
From: Dave New
Sent: Thu 8/9/2007 6:14 AM
Subject: Zodiac for Sale
List
I have decided to sell my Zaodiac. CH601 HDS taildragger. Appox 210 hrs.
Completed July 03. Custom Subaru engine installed. Flys great, can't get
med. any more. Cruses solo 120-125 MPH Burns appox. 5.2 gph. Basic VRF.
E-mail me off list for info questions or photos.
Dave New
dnew@panhandlegeotech.com
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| Subject: | Looking for electrical 14V Horizon |
Hello, maybe someone of you would like to upgrade to EFIS or whatever and has a
electrical artificial Horizon for sale.
Thanks for your help.
alex
601xl
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| Subject: | Re: Location for wing-mounted landing lights? |
on this subject i mounted 2 12volt Halogen lights in the lower engine cowl good
light (also possible to go for LEDs) and very light. housing for lights was made
from Acrylic Plastic.
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| Subject: | Re: 701 builders, bottom fuselage |
Keith,
According to my plans, the 303mm is NOT cl to cl. It is the dimension from 7F1-4
front to the back of 7F1-3. In order to hit the centers of the flanges, you
need to subtract around 20mm for you pre-drilled hole distance.
Hope this helps.
Dan Ginty
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| Subject: | Re: XL Aileron Travel |
Chuck,
I'm not to the point you are but it seems to me I've seen this question raised
by the group before and I'm a little surprised by the lack of response this time.
You might check the archives but in any case I would contact the factory and
see what they have to say about it. If you get a good response to your question
please share it with the rest of us.
Good luck!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | electrical connections between wings and fuse |
hi list
i have finished the wings and am wondering the best
way to connect the wires in the wing to the wires that
go into the fuse. i want to use some sort of quick
disconnect for every wire, but am not sure what they
are called and if there are multi-wire connectors that
would allow me to use just one connector for everthing
in each wing. the trim tab uses a 5 wire bundle and
seems a little redundant to have five seperate
connections.
any ideas would be nice. i will likely never take the
wings off after i truck the machine to a test area,
but you never know.
regards
john butterfield
601XL, corvair
torrance, ca
http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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| Subject: | Re: electrical connections between wings and fuse |
What you are looking for are Molex connectors. Even Radio Shack has them.
Steven Bornstein
475 E. North Broadway
Columbus, Ohio 43214
614 263-5819
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| Subject: | Re: in-flight adjustable props |
Larry have you considered a Prince P-Tip
JoeN101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry@macsmachine.com>
<stratus-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: in-flight adjustable props
>
> Hi guys,
> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop with
> any success?
> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these things,
> but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or not.
>
> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've made no
> further comments.
>
> Larry McFarland
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XL Aileron Travel |
check the cable length, and rod lengths per plans, had same issue with elevator
throw and needed to put rod at 220 per plans, making throw just right. 2 degrees
off is not bad.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Chuck & Lana Maggart <cmaggart@sprintmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 7, 2007 4:20 PM
>To: Zenith-List Digest Server <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Aileron Travel
>
>List, I am rigging the control cables now and find that I can not get full aileron
deflection before the "Y" stick hits the sides of the console. It looks
like I am around 2 to 4 degrees short of the 11.5 degree travel required. One
possible solution would be to lower the front sides of the console by one or
two inches. Anyone else encountered this situation?
>
>Chuck Maggart, XL/Jabiru3300
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| Subject: | Re: electrical connections between wings and fuse |
John,
What you need is a feed-thru disconnect. One end would flange mount to the fuselage
end of the wing root and the other end would disconnect at the wing end
rib. Check this site:
www.ittcannon.com
Art
john butterfield <jdbutterfield@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi list
i have finished the wings and am wondering the best
way to connect the wires in the wing to the wires that
go into the fuse. i want to use some sort of quick
disconnect for every wire, but am not sure what they
are called and if there are multi-wire connectors that
would allow me to use just one connector for everthing
in each wing. the trim tab uses a 5 wire bundle and
seems a little redundant to have five seperate
connections.
any ideas would be nice. i will likely never take the
wings off after i truck the machine to a test area,
but you never know.
regards
john butterfield
601XL, corvair
torrance, ca
http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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| Subject: | Cowling Mold for a CH-701 |
I have a cowling mold for a Zenith CH-701 using a Subaru engine. The mold is a
three piece system; a nose piece and a upper and lower half. It was professionally
done and is quite sturdy. It has fulfilled its use and is now available
for anyone else who has a need.
If you are interested, e-mail me at caldwell@mswin.net, as this e-mail site will
cease to exist on 15 August 2007. Put "Cowl" in the subject line.
I am asking $350 FOB Santee CA (i.e. you pay for any shipping costs). Any price
is negotiable.
Jay F. Caldwell
Owner, Caldwell Systems Engineering (CSE), LLC
4181 Tamilynn Court
San Diego, CA 92122
Voice 858.453.4594
Facsimile 858.452.1560
Work 619.562.0885
Mobile 858.336.0394
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| Subject: | electrical connections between wings and fuse |
John,
I didn't go with wing trim, but for the elevator trim cable bundle, I used a 9
pin DSUB connector. For the tail light, I used a knife connector, which I will
protect with heat-shrink tubing when I install the tail. I will do the same
for the fuel sender wires from the wings. I know there a lot of other wires
from the wings, but I installed terminal blocks behind the seat backs, one for
each side. These blocks are already wired to the power sources. I will terminate
each wire from the wings with ring terminals and screw to the appropriate
places on the terminal blocks. I felt that this was simpler than trying to find
plugs that would handle the required current.
Jay in Dallas
john butterfield <jdbutterfield@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>hi list
>i have finished the wings and am wondering the best
>way to connect the wires in the wing to the wires that
>go into the fuse. i want to use some sort of quick
>disconnect for every wire, but am not sure what they
>are called and if there are multi-wire connectors that
>would allow me to use just one connector for everthing
>in each wing. the trim tab uses a 5 wire bundle and
>seems a little redundant to have five seperate
>connections.
>
>any ideas would be nice. i will likely never take the
>wings off after i truck the machine to a test area,
>but you never know.
>regards
>john butterfield
>601XL, corvair
>torrance, ca
>
>
>
>http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling Mold for a CH-701 |
Can you post of photo of the cowl that was pulled from this mold?
Thanks Jerry
On Aug 9, 2007, at 1:39 PM, Jay Caldwell wrote:
> I have a cowling mold for a Zenith CH-701 using a Subaru engine.
> The mold is a three piece system; a nose piece and a upper and
> lower half. It was professionally done and is quite sturdy. It
> has fulfilled its use and is now available for anyone else who has
> a need.
>
> If you are interested, e-mail me at caldwell@mswin.net, as this e-
> mail site will cease to exist on 15 August 2007. Put "Cowl" in the
> subject line.
>
> I am asking $350 FOB Santee CA (i.e. you pay for any shipping
> costs). Any price is negotiable.
>
>
> Jay F. Caldwell
> Owner, Caldwell Systems Engineering (CSE), LLC
> 4181 Tamilynn Court
> San Diego, CA 92122
> Voice 858.453.4594
> Facsimile 858.452.1560
> Work 619.562.0885
> Mobile 858.336.0394
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MapSource Waypoint Inputs |
Ken
Here is a method that I use, but it is a little convoluted:
1. Go to the following web site: http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/airports/airport_safety/airportdata_5010
2. Enter some criteria and then push the select button. For Example, you can
select state of Washington and Public Use.
3. Another page will appear. Select the Airport Facilities Data link under Data
Downloads near the bottom of the page.
4. This will open an Excel file that contains a bunch of info about the airports
you selected including altitude, latitude and longitude.
I hope this helps.
Bill
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| Subject: | Aluminum fuel lines |
Comments would be appreciated on use of 5052 aluminium fuel lines vs 3003 aluminium.
I am planning a fuel system for 601HD/Corvair and will be using some braided
flex lines (probably from Summit) and some solid lines. I believe that
most use 5052 but shipping is an issue because I understand that 5052 cannot be
coiled to stay within USPS package length restrictions. 3003 can be coiled
to reduce package length. I will probably purchase solid fuel line from Aircraft
Spruce or Wicks. According to USPS website the maximum length for standard
$23.00 parcel postage to Canada is 108" including girth, thus my preference for
3003 aluminium.
Bob D.
601HD/Corvair
Melfort, Sask., Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum fuel lines |
Bob,
I also have been researching this same question recently. I talked to a few local
RV guys and they both received the coiled tubing as a part of their kits.
I will be doing the same and ordering 3003 from Aircraft Spruce.
Good luck,
--------
David Gallagher
601 XL, tail and wings completed,
fueslage almost done, engine next.
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum fuel lines |
I was just planning on going with the braided line from Summit. Single line straight
from each fuel tank to the selector knob.
I'm not as far along as you, so maybe I'm being overly simplistic.
I am interested in what you decide to do.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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For any of you folks looking to save a few bucks on the wing and tail kits
check out the following link:
http://www.donateyourplane.com/zodiac_ch_601.htm
George May
601XL 912s 135hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum fuel lines |
Hi Bob,
5052 aluminum fuel line is for high pressure, 3003 aluminum fuel line is
for low pressure applications where aircraft systems are involved.
Unless you're going to do a fuel injected system or other where
pressures exceed the normal fuel pumps at less than 10 p.s.i., your use
of 3003 should be fine.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Bob Duns wrote:
> Comments would be appreciated on use of 5052 aluminium fuel lines vs
> 3003 aluminium. I am planning a fuel system for 601HD/Corvair and
> will be using some braided flex lines (probably from Summit) and some
> solid lines. I believe that most use 5052 but shipping is an issue
> because I understand that 5052 cannot be coiled to stay within USPS
> package length restrictions. 3003 can be coiled to reduce package
> length. I will probably purchase solid fuel line from Aircraft Spruce
> or Wicks. According to USPS website the maximum length for standard
> $23.00 parcel postage to Canada is 108" including girth, thus my
> preference for 3003 aluminium.
>
> Bob D.
> 601HD/Corvair
> Melfort, Sask., Canada
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| Subject: | Re: in-flight adjustable props |
Hi Joe,
Their specs say the flexure in the Prince P-Tip prop provides a pitch
increase of 4-inches.
While that's commendable, it doesn't come close to the increase between
14 and 18-degrees
pitch, which is what I was hoping to find.
Larry McFarland
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Southern Reflections wrote:
> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>
> Larry have you considered a Prince P-Tip JoeN101HD
Hi guys,
>> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop
>> with any success?
>> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
>> things,
>> but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or not.
>>
>> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've
>> made no
>> further comments.
>>
>> Larry McFarland
>
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| Subject: | 701 with rear ring mount engine installation |
I'm starting to work on installing my 912S on my 701 kit. I have the new rear
ring mount that ZAC introduced not too long ago. I'm curious if there's anyone
out there who has the rear ring type mount.
Are there any 'gotchyas' I need to look out for while installing the engine? I
feel like I'm the guinea pig trying this new product.
Thanks,
Dan Ginty
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I am building a Zenith 601 XL, and flying a Piper Cherokee. The Cherokee is really
low powered when the density altitude gets up there in the summer time, making
it difficult to fly and carry any passengers or baggage. As I approach
the end of construction of my 601 fuselage, I am starting to look for an engine
to power it. Being sensitive to the horsepower to weight ratio, I am looking
for a listing of actual weights of installed engines in a 601 XL. What I would
like to have is a listing of a complete engine with all the parts included
like the exhaust system, starter, alternator, carborator, engine mount, coolers,
propeller, and etc. for various engines, along with their horsepower ratings.
I am considering so far the traditional Lycoming, Continental, Rotax, Jabarau,
and various auto engine conversions. I am not considering anything less
than 100 Horsepower. I have looked at the lists for Lycoming and Continental
engines, but I can't figure out if all the
critical things are included with their weights. As far as I can tell they may
be shipping weights including the packaging without the starters or alternators?
Thanks for any help you can give me on picking an engine.
Don Mountain
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Weights? |
Take a look at the _www.USJabiru.com_ (http://www.USJabiru.com) web page it
has the information you are looking for. I just took delivery of a 3300 for
the CH701 I am building. The FWF package from USJ is very complete too.
John Read
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Weights? |
Don,
There's an easier perspective from which to choose an engine.
If you've $14K or more to spend, buy the Jabaru 3300 as it's the
"Merlin" of homebuilt engines. If you need to spend a little less, but
want the most available and purchased engine for the buck, buy a Rotax
912. If you want better horsepower at minimal cost and weight, buy a
Corvair. In nearly each engine, you'll probably be surprised how much
more lift and performance that you'll get than the Piper. For weight, I
cannot recommend the Subaru as it needs a radiator, but it is the least
costly engine, to purchase, fuel use, parts and performance of any of
them. It, like the Corvair, demands you invest a little more of
yourself in knowing what the engine requires to be reliable.
The weights of most engines are found at the following page link and
there are links for each engine grouped by horsepower.
http://www.aviator.cc/engines2.html
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com (Stratus/RAM Performance
Subaru)
Don Mountain wrote:
> I am building a Zenith 601 XL, and flying a Piper Cherokee. The
> Cherokee is really low powered when the density altitude gets up there
> in the summer time, making it difficult to fly and carry any
> passengers or baggage. As I approach the end of construction of my
> 601 fuselage, I am starting to look for an engine to power it. Being
> sensitive to the horsepower to weight ratio, I am looking for a
> listing of actual weights of installed engines in a 601 XL. What I
> would like to have is a listing of a complete engine with all the
> parts included like the exhaust system, starter, alternator,
> carborator, engine mount, coolers, propeller, and etc. for various
> engines, along with their horsepower ratings. I am considering so far
> the traditional Lycoming, Continental, Rotax, Jabarau, and various
> auto engine conversions. I am not considering anything less than 100
> Horsepower. I have looked at the lists for Lycoming and Continental
> engines, but I can't figure out if all the critical things are
> included with their weights. As far as I can tell they may be
> shipping weights including the packaging without the starters or
> alternators?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me on picking an engine.
>
> Don Mountain
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 with rear ring mount engine installation |
Dan: I also have the new 701 912S ring mount. The installation guide I
thought was very good. The problems I had were waiting for back ordered
parts. Also the guide ends at Section 7 and there doesn't appear to be
any help with the electrical wiring. I do have Homebuilt helps video on
_Rotax 912 installation_ and _Electrical wiring 101_ which have been a
big help so far.
Does anyone have a recommendation for which battery I should buy? Rotax
says is should be at least 18 AH.
Dan Wilde
txpilot wrote:
>
> I'm starting to work on installing my 912S on my 701 kit. I have the new rear
ring mount that ZAC introduced not too long ago. I'm curious if there's anyone
out there who has the rear ring type mount.
>
> Are there any 'gotchyas' I need to look out for while installing the engine?
I feel like I'm the guinea pig trying this new product.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Ginty
>
>
> R
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| Subject: | Re: 701 with rear ring mount engine installation |
I would recommend a non venting battery. I.E. Dry
Cell, or gell cell. Having worked on lead acid types
while in the military let me tell you that aluminum
and battery acid do not mix well. Even though the
batteries were vented to the outside of the aircraft
somehow fumes would manage to creep into the battery
compartment and cause corrosion. When I started
working on aircraft that had nicads it was a much
easier task to keep the battery compartment corrosion
free.
Terry
--- Dan <dwilde@clearwire.net> wrote:
> <dwilde@clearwire.net>
>
> Dan: I also have the new 701 912S ring mount. The
> installation guide I
> thought was very good. The problems I had were
> waiting for back ordered
> parts. Also the guide ends at Section 7 and there
> doesn't appear to be
> any help with the electrical wiring. I do have
> Homebuilt helps video on
> _Rotax 912 installation_ and _Electrical wiring 101_
> which have been a
> big help so far.
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for which battery
> I should buy? Rotax
> says is should be at least 18 AH.
>
> Dan Wilde
>
> txpilot wrote:
> <djg7@houston.rr.com>
> >
> > I'm starting to work on installing my 912S on my
> 701 kit. I have the new rear ring mount that ZAC
> introduced not too long ago. I'm curious if there's
> anyone out there who has the rear ring type mount.
> >
> > Are there any 'gotchyas' I need to look out for
> while installing the engine? I feel like I'm the
> guinea pig trying this new product.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan Ginty
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > R
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