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1. 03:26 AM - Re: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner (Juan Vega)
3. 07:01 AM - CH701 Flap Actuator (George Race)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: CH701 Flap Actuator (MacDonald Doug)
5. 11:05 AM - Re: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner ()
6. 11:43 AM - Re: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner (George Swinford)
7. 12:00 PM - Powder coating equipment (lwinger)
8. 01:58 PM - Re: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner (Terry Fogelson)
9. 02:02 PM - RE : Re: CH701 Flap Actuator (Jean-Paul Roy)
10. 02:49 PM - Re: Cooling the cockpit (Southern Reflections)
11. 03:56 PM - Sheet Metal Supplier in Hampton Roads VA Area? (Debo Cox)
12. 05:59 PM - Re: panel finally done (leinad)
13. 06:28 PM - Forward Facing Brakes. (Paul Mulwitz)
14. 06:45 PM - Re: CH701 Flap Actuator (txpilot)
15. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
16. 07:34 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
17. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
18. 07:37 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
19. 07:37 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
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| Subject: | Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner |
Good Morning George:
A gas refrigerator can withstand the pitching and rolling of an RV down the
highway, but, as you mentioned, they have to be returned to 'straight &
level' to work properly. I really like the idea of using exhaust gases for
an
energy source, but I fear the toxicity of the ammonia and the turbulence of
flight would make this system unworkable.
Great idea - I really wish it could work.
Tracy Smith
601XL - N451XL (reserved)
do not archive
In a message dated 8/15/2007 12:42:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
grs-pms@comcast.net writes:
I've wondered about this, remembering that 50 some years ago I saw
refrigerators that used a small gas flame as an energy source. We throw aw
ay a lot of
heat in exhaust gases, so that could be an energy source. I Googled
"Servel", the manufacturer of such refrigerators and learned that the refri
gerant
flow depends entirely on gravity. I wonder if turbulence would disrupt the
refrigerant circulation?. Anyone done any research on concept?
George
----- Original Message -----
From: _Dave Thompson_ (mailto:dave.thompson@verizon.net)
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner
Several years ago I wanted to upgrade the ice box in my tent trailer. I
=99m a
cheap _Ba*@#d_ (mailto:Ba*@#d) so went to my local RV junk yard and
purchased a 12V / 120V / LP gas fridge that had been crushed but still work
ed. I
removed the guts and installed it behind my ice box. It works very well on
12V,
even makes ice. It takes longer to cool on 12V than 120V or gas but it stil
l
works. It draws about 2 to 3 amps on 12V. It has an ammonia cooling unit.
I
don=99t know what it weighs but I think it didn=99t weigh too m
uch, not nearly as
much as my tiny 5000 BTU window air conditioner in my shop office. It seems
that one could be adapted to our use. I DO wonder about the ammonia if it
gets a leak. I don=99t know about those things. Below is a link that
explains how
they work. It discusses gas Refrigerators but my 12V Refrigerator works th
e
same way with a 12V heater.
_http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=refrigerator.htm&url=htt
p://ww
w.nh3tech.org/absorption.html_
(http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=refrigerator.htm&url=htt
p://www.nh3tech.org/absorption.html)
Here=99s a link to a portable version. It=99s not cheap but it
=99s an idea.
_http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-refrigerators/portable-refrigerator-m
rf
t40.htm_
(http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-refrigerators/portable-refrigerator-m
rft40.htm)
Possible positives:
Size (the parts that I used only took up about a 12=9D X 12=9D
X 6=9D space, plus
the 4=9D X 2=9D X 8=9D by condenser)
No moving parts
Simple
Low amperage draw
Possible drawbacks:
Weight (of course)
Ammonia leakage (Is it toxic?)
Speed of cooling (my 3.5 cu. ft. fridge takes about a half an hour to be
cold)
Size (could it be installed below the baggage shelf or under the seat?)
I may be way off base with this idea. You guys told me that I was with the
Thermoelectric Module. I=99m just throwing out ideas at this point.
Dave Thompson
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| Subject: | Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner |
is this the Trane webssite? its obvious we are deviating and filling up my emails
with visions of a HVAC system in a 1320lb plane cooling our feet. CAn we
move on to other subjects please.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: George Swinford <grs-pms@comcast.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 12:37 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner
>
>I've wondered about this, remembering that 50 some years ago I saw refrigerators
that used a small gas flame as an energy source. We throw away a lot of heat
in exhaust gases, so that could be an energy source. I Googled "Servel", the
manufacturer of such refrigerators and learned that the refrigerant flow depends
entirely on gravity. I wonder if turbulence would disrupt the refrigerant
circulation?. Anyone done any research on concept?
>
>George
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Thompson
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner
>
>
> Several years ago I wanted to upgrade the ice box in my tent trailer. I'm a
cheap Ba*@#d so went to my local RV junk yard and purchased a 12V / 120V / LP
gas fridge that had been crushed but still worked. I removed the guts and installed
it behind my ice box. It works very well on 12V, even makes ice. It takes
longer to cool on 12V than 120V or gas but it still works. It draws about 2
to 3 amps on 12V. It has an ammonia cooling unit. I don't know what it weighs
but I think it didn't weigh too much, not nearly as much as my tiny 5000 BTU
window air conditioner in my shop office. It seems that one could be adapted to
our use. I DO wonder about the ammonia if it gets a leak. I don't know about
those things. Below is a link that explains how they work. It discusses gas
Refrigerators but my 12V Refrigerator works the same way with a 12V heater.
>
>
>
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=refrigerator.htm&url=http://www.nh3tech.org/absorption.html
>
>
>
> Here's a link to a portable version. It's not cheap but it's an idea.
>
>
>
> http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-refrigerators/portable-refrigerator-mrft40.htm
>
>
>
> Possible positives:
>
> Size (the parts that I used only took up about a 12" X 12" X 6" space, plus
the 4" X 2" X 8" by condenser)
>
> No moving parts
>
> Simple
>
> Low amperage draw
>
>
>
> Possible drawbacks:
>
> Weight (of course)
>
> Ammonia leakage (Is it toxic?)
>
> Speed of cooling (my 3.5 cu. ft. fridge takes about a half an hour to be cold)
>
> Size (could it be installed below the baggage shelf or under the seat?)
>
>
>
> I may be way off base with this idea. You guys told me that I was with the Thermoelectric
Module. I'm just throwing out ideas at this point.
>
>
>
> Dave Thompson
>
>
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>
>
>8/13/2007 10:15 AM
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| Subject: | CH701 Flap Actuator |
I wonder if anyone has successfully installed a electric flap actuator
system in the CH701.
If so, what components and from whom did you acquire them.
Any ideas on how many pounds of force it may take, especially when extending
them in flight.
George
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Flap Actuator |
George, I am installing the a SPAL linear actuator
from Surlus Center. I have not completed the
installation yet but am working on some of the
details.
SPAL also makes a controller box that will give you
three preset positions. I am also planning on using
this controller setup.
Unfortunately, that is all of the information I have
at this time.
Doug MacDonald
--- George Race <mykitairplane@mrrace.com> wrote:
> I wonder if anyone has successfully installed a
> electric flap actuator
> system in the CH701.
>
> If so, what components and from whom did you acquire
> them.
>
> Any ideas on how many pounds of force it may take,
> especially when extending
> them in flight.
>
> George
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner |
Kindasorta, yes. About 15 years ago, somebody came up with a dry air c
onditioner/heater, using the compression and expansion of air. It look
ed something like a two-rotor, lobed, Roots supercharger. Run in one d
irection, it compressed the air, ran it through a heat exchanger, then
through a calibrated orifice, which gave cooled air. Run in the other
direction, it used the heat of compression as a sort of heater. Or s
omething like that. After the first flurry of interest, nothing much w
as ever heard of it again. It's probably one of those things that work
s, but for reasons of cost, complexity, or whatever, doesn't get to th
e marketplace.=0A=0APaul Rodriguez=0A601XL/Corvair=0A ---
-- Original Message ----- =0A From: Crvsecretary@aol.com<mailto:Cr
vsecretary@aol.com> =0A To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenit
h-list@matronics.com> =0A Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:53 AM
=0A Subject: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner=0A
=0A=0A Hi Bob:=0A=0A The small alternators that mount on th
e vacuum pump pad are just that - small - and are typically used as ba
ckup alternators. Probably big enough for an XL, but this looks like
something to research.=0A=0A Let's take this discussion a bit f
urther - anyone know of an air conditioner system that could be run BA
CKWARDS a.k.a. 'heat pump' for our cold winter months here in New Engl
and that would eliminate the heat shroud CO issue ? I think it would
be just great to have something that would require a simple v-belt ro
uting change that could convert from cooling to heating.=0A=0A
Does such a thing exist ??=0A=0A Tracy Smith=0A Naugatuck,
CT=0A 601XL N458XL (reserved)=0A=0A=0A In a message date
d 8/13/2007 9:47:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, MaxNr@aol.com writes:
=0A John Deere air conditioners, huh? I'm sold. My pickup truck is
nothing more than a support system for an air conditioner. Why not a 6
01XL? The nearby US Naval Air Station (Whiting Field) cools the T-34C'
s (air cycle I think) and some of the helo's are freon cooled with a s
mall Japanese auto compressor driven by a pulley on the tail rotor dri
ve shaft. These are the TH-57C's. Same as a Bell 206B3, only with a hu
ge IFR panel and autopilot. The instructors will turn down an assigned
A/C if the air con is inop and request another. =0A=0A Frien
d of mine simplifies his altitude selection by flat out ignoring winds
aloft and climbing until the OAT read 16 deg Celsius.=0A=0A
Just thinking: could I replace my alternator with one of those new sma
ll ones that mount in place of the vac pump and put a small compressor
in its place? The condenser could mount on the MLG. Draggy and heavy,
but 105 heat index aint nuthing to sneeze at.=0A do not archive
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| Subject: | Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner |
If an airplane was designed from scratch to incorporate such a system,
space (and weight) ahead of the firewall could be dedicated to the air
conditioner, just like it is now to cabin heat. That would solve the
toxicity problem and keep it close to the hot exhaust for an energy
source. I don't see how we could comfortably handle it in a 601 or 701.
George
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Crvsecretary@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner
Good Morning George:
A gas refrigerator can withstand the pitching and rolling of an RV
down the highway, but, as you mentioned, they have to be returned to
'straight & level' to work properly. I really like the idea of using
exhaust gases for an energy source, but I fear the toxicity of the
ammonia and the turbulence of flight would make this system unworkable.
Great idea - I really wish it could work.
Tracy Smith
601XL - N451XL (reserved)
do not archive
In a message dated 8/15/2007 12:42:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
grs-pms@comcast.net writes:
I've wondered about this, remembering that 50 some years ago I saw
refrigerators that used a small gas flame as an energy source. We throw
away a lot of heat in exhaust gases, so that could be an energy source.
I Googled "Servel", the manufacturer of such refrigerators and learned
that the refrigerant flow depends entirely on gravity. I wonder if
turbulence would disrupt the refrigerant circulation?. Anyone done any
research on concept?
George
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Thompson
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner
Several years ago I wanted to upgrade the ice box in my tent
trailer. I=99m a cheap Ba*@#d so went to my local RV junk yard and
purchased a 12V / 120V / LP gas fridge that had been crushed but still
worked. I removed the guts and installed it behind my ice box. It works
very well on 12V, even makes ice. It takes longer to cool on 12V than
120V or gas but it still works. It draws about 2 to 3 amps on 12V. It
has an ammonia cooling unit. I don=99t know what it weighs but I
think it didn=99t weigh too much, not nearly as much as my tiny
5000 BTU window air conditioner in my shop office. It seems that one
could be adapted to our use. I DO wonder about the ammonia if it gets a
leak. I don=99t know about those things. Below is a link that
explains how they work. It discusses gas Refrigerators but my 12V
Refrigerator works the same way with a 12V heater.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/framed.htm?parent=refrigerator.htm&url=h
ttp://www.nh3tech.org/absorption.html
Here=99s a link to a portable version. It=99s not
cheap but it=99s an idea.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-refrigerators/portable-refrigerator
-mrft40.htm
Possible positives:
Size (the parts that I used only took up about a 12=9D X
12=9D X 6=9D space, plus the 4=9D X 2=9D X
8=9D by condenser)
No moving parts
Simple
Low amperage draw
Possible drawbacks:
Weight (of course)
Ammonia leakage (Is it toxic?)
Speed of cooling (my 3.5 cu. ft. fridge takes about a half an hour
to be cold)
Size (could it be installed below the baggage shelf or under the
seat?)
I may be way off base with this idea. You guys told me that I was
with the Thermoelectric Module. I=99m just throwing out ideas at
this point.
Dave Thompson
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8/14/2007 5:19 PM
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| Subject: | Powder coating equipment |
Someone on the CorvAircraft list posted this:
Harbor freight has a sale on their powder coating system item 94244-1BHB $49.99.
Includes gun, foot switch, filter, and two cups. Use the magazine item number not
the one listed on line for the deep discount. Don't ask me how good or bad
it is I have no idea.
Joe G.
-------------
Does anyone on this list have experience with the HF version?
--------
Larry Winger
Tustin, CA
601XL/Corvair from scratch
Control surfaces and wing spars complete
Making wing ribs
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| Subject: | Re:Zodiac 601XL Air Conditioner |
Actually that is what the C-130 uses for air
conditioning. However it didn't work good in Viet
Nam, but once you to got to 20,000 ft it worked really
well.
Terry
--- paulrod36@msn.com wrote:
> Kindasorta, yes. About 15 years ago, somebody came
> up with a dry air conditioner/heater, using the
> compression and expansion of air. It looked
> something like a two-rotor, lobed, Roots
> supercharger. Run in one direction, it compressed
> the air, ran it through a heat exchanger, then
> through a calibrated orifice, which gave cooled air.
> Run in the other direction, it used the heat of
> compression as a sort of heater. Or something like
> that. After the first flurry of interest, nothing
> much was ever heard of it again. It's probably one
> of those things that works, but for reasons of cost,
> complexity, or whatever, doesn't get to the
> marketplace.
>
> Paul Rodriguez
> 601XL/Corvair
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Crvsecretary@aol.com<mailto:Crvsecretary@aol.com>
> To:
>
zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:53 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re:Zodiac 601XL Air
> Conditioner
>
>
> Hi Bob:
>
> The small alternators that mount on the vacuum
> pump pad are just that - small - and are typically
> used as backup alternators. Probably big enough for
> an XL, but this looks like something to research.
>
> Let's take this discussion a bit further - anyone
> know of an air conditioner system that could be run
> BACKWARDS a.k.a. 'heat pump' for our cold winter
> months here in New England that would eliminate the
> heat shroud CO issue ? I think it would be just
> great to have something that would require a simple
> v-belt routing change that could convert from
> cooling to heating.
>
> Does such a thing exist ??
>
> Tracy Smith
> Naugatuck, CT
> 601XL N458XL (reserved)
>
>
> In a message dated 8/13/2007 9:47:26 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, MaxNr@aol.com writes:
> John Deere air conditioners, huh? I'm sold. My
> pickup truck is nothing more than a support system
> for an air conditioner. Why not a 601XL? The nearby
> US Naval Air Station (Whiting Field) cools the
> T-34C's (air cycle I think) and some of the helo's
> are freon cooled with a small Japanese auto
> compressor driven by a pulley on the tail rotor
> drive shaft. These are the TH-57C's. Same as a Bell
> 206B3, only with a huge IFR panel and autopilot. The
> instructors will turn down an assigned A/C if the
> air con is inop and request another.
>
> Friend of mine simplifies his altitude selection
> by flat out ignoring winds aloft and climbing until
> the OAT read 16 deg Celsius.
>
> Just thinking: could I replace my alternator
> with one of those new small ones that mount in place
> of the vac pump and put a small compressor in its
> place? The condenser could mount on the MLG. Draggy
> and heavy, but 105 heat index aint nuthing to sneeze
> at.
> do not archive
> Bob from Pace, FL 601XL/Lyc
>
>
> ************************l.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Flap Actuator |
Hello Doug, is there any internet link to reach that surplus center about that
SPAL actuator?
Thanks ahead
Jean-Paul Roy
CH-701 building wings
MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com> a crit :
George, I am installing the a SPAL linear actuator
from Surlus Center. I have not completed the
installation yet but am working on some of the
details.
SPAL also makes a controller box that will give you
three preset positions. I am also planning on using
this controller setup.
Unfortunately, that is all of the information I have
at this time.
Doug MacDonald
Jean-Paul Roy
royjp@yahoo.ca
Tl:(819)949-2216
Fax:(819)949-2216
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| Subject: | Re: Cooling the cockpit |
How about some pict of the vents... Joe N101HD 601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: robert stone
To: Zenith list
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Cooling the cockpit
Members,
When I first got my Zodiac601XL I had a real problem with heat in
the cockpit and found that most of it was coming from around the two
steering rods where they go through the firewall. I don't understand
why the designer made the slots so long because the rods have very
little up and down movement during use. I glued velcro on the firewall
on each side of the rods and used leather cut as per the drawing to
close the holes. I also bought two plastic vents from Aircraft Spruce
and installed them in the forward lower part of the canopy and this
solved my heat problem.
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | Sheet Metal Supplier in Hampton Roads VA Area? |
Hi guys,
Any builders out there know of a good sheet metal supplier in the Hampton Roads,
VA area? I'm specifically looking for 6061-T6 in our common thicknesses, and
I want the ability to buy in small quantity (3-4 sheets at a time). With all
of the military and industry up there, I figure there's GOTTA be someplace where
a guy can buy sheet aluminum. I've exhausted my searches.
I've bought from AS, Yarde, and Speedy Metals - all of which I know about and
have worked fine. I'm just looking for a semi-local supplier. Thanks in advance
for your help.
Debo Cox
XL/Corvair Scratchbuilder
Nags Head, NC
Working on Wings
Not installing air conditioning ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Jaun,
It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
Dan Dempsey
> finallty plugged the panel in.
>
> Juan
>
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| Subject: | Forward Facing Brakes. |
I am currently doing battle with the main landing gear wheels and
brakes. One of the interesting issues that comes up is whether to
mount the brake calipers forward of the wheels or aft.
The instructions that come with the Grove kit indicate the calipers
should be mounted in front of the wheel. However, the ZAC photo
guide shows them mounted behind the wheels.
Any comments?
Paul
XL fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Flap Actuator |
George,
I am also using the SPAL linear actuator from Surplus Center. The actuator is
rated at 110 pounds with a 550 pound static load. Although I don't have my plane
flying yet, I'm confident it's plenty of force for the flaps.
I decided to mount the flap motor on the front of 7F6-1 in line with the bottom
of the flaperon control mount. It is bolted to the Flaperon control mount with
an AN4-20 in the same place the flaperon control lever would normally go.
The position is ideal because it allows easy access and maintenance to the motor
through the rear access panel. I ran the idea past ZAC and they suggested
adding a doubler to reinforce the channel 7F6-1 and a gusset between 7F6-1 and
the z bracket around the access hole. This is to prevent twisting of the channel
during flap operation.
I'll try to send pictures and the plans I sent to ZAC, although they're not that
great. Good Luck on your project.
Dan Ginty
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
check on the zenith website in the update section its on there.
JUan
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
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>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
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>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
>
>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>
>
>--------
>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
with red cockpit light on
JUan
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
>
>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>
>
>--------
>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
where i was over weekend prior to propeller install.
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
>
>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>
>
>--------
>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
where i was over weekend prior to propeller install.
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
>
>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>
>
>--------
>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
>
>
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