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1. 12:06 AM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Dan Lykowski)
2. 03:08 AM - Re: Forward Facing Brakes. (Dave Johnson)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: Forward Facing Brakes. (Edward Moody II)
4. 04:50 AM - Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Scott Thatcher)
5. 05:28 AM - Re: Forward Facing Brakes. (Jaybannist@cs.com)
6. 05:29 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (passpat@aol.com)
7. 06:26 AM - Re: panel finally done (Gig Giacona)
8. 06:28 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? ()
9. 06:29 AM - Re: Forward Facing Brakes. ()
10. 06:32 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Gig Giacona)
11. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: panel finally done (robert stone)
12. 06:46 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Paul Mulwitz)
13. 06:49 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Robert D. Taylor)
14. 07:20 AM - Re: CH701 Flap Actuator (George Race)
15. 08:30 AM - 701 Top Window (Elwood140@aol.com)
16. 09:57 AM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Gig Giacona)
17. 10:51 AM - 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? (PatrickW)
18. 11:34 AM - Re: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? (Beckman, Rick)
19. 12:16 PM - Re: Powder coating equipment (Dino Bortolin)
20. 12:21 PM - Re: Powder coating equipment (Dino Bortolin)
21. 12:46 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Bryan Martin)
22. 12:47 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Bryan Martin)
23. 12:54 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Bryan Martin)
24. 01:28 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Ryan Vechinski)
25. 01:31 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Clyde Barcus)
26. 03:25 PM - Fw: [EAA347] Sonex accident (wade jones)
27. 05:38 PM - Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? (Bryan Martin)
28. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
29. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: panel finally done (Juan Vega)
30. 07:29 PM - Re: panel finally done (leinad)
31. 07:33 PM - Re: Fw: [EAA347] Sonex accident (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
32. 07:56 PM - Re: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? (robert stone)
33. 08:39 PM - Re: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? (Leo Gates)
34. 10:16 PM - Re: Powder coating equipment (Larry Winger)
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Now that is a nice panel :)
I'll offer a tip: There is a new software version available for your D-100 and
D-120.
Dan Lykowski
Dynon Avionics
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message ----
From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:35:42 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
where i was over weekend prior to propeller install.
-----Original Message-----
>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Jaun,
>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>Dan Dempsey
>
>
>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>
>
>--------
>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Facing Brakes. |
I've just fitted the wheel spats and found that the only position for the
calipers was at the bottom!
Dave Johnson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mulwitz" <psm@ATT.NET>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:27 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Forward Facing Brakes.
>
> I am currently doing battle with the main landing gear wheels and brakes.
> One of the interesting issues that comes up is whether to mount the brake
> calipers forward of the wheels or aft.
>
> The instructions that come with the Grove kit indicate the calipers should
> be mounted in front of the wheel. However, the ZAC photo guide shows them
> mounted behind the wheels.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Facing Brakes. |
I mounted the gear legs with the flat side facing forward as per the new
version of the assembly guide. I mounted the brake calipers behind the
gear (and slightly below axle level). I'm using the new style wheel
pants and had to warm them up with a heat gun after installation to keep
the pants from dragging on the brake rotor. Didn't take much reshaping
but both sides were lightly riding on the rotors. All is well now.
Nosewheel pant is bored out for the strut, sawed into two pieces (front
and rear) the rejoining aluminum trips and nutplates are done and
rivetted. It's ready to be mounted to the brackets on the fork.
I'll soon be moving the project out to the new hangar which should be
complete in a couple of weeks. Interesting side note..... a group of
cattle broke out from a neighbor at the airport Tuesday night during a
rainstorm. They sought out high ground which turned out to be my brand
new clean hangar slab. They apparently decided to hang out there and
have a crapping contest. My concrete now looks and smells like a
stockyard. Thrilling.
Dred
601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Mulwitz
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Forward Facing Brakes.
I am currently doing battle with the main landing gear wheels and
brakes. One of the interesting issues that comes up is whether to
mount the brake calipers forward of the wheels or aft.
The instructions that come with the Grove kit indicate the calipers
should be mounted in front of the wheel. However, the ZAC photo
guide shows them mounted behind the wheels.
Any comments?
Paul
XL fuselage
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| Subject: | Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there others
working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
The reason I'm trying to go this route is to allow the buyer of my airplane
(in 10-15 years), the chance to do his (her) own work on it should they take
the 16 hour maintenance program. I will also need to take the 16 hour
training even though I built the plane because of the E-LSA registration.
But I don't consider that wasted energy since I really need to know more
about inspections anyway (I've not done very well at the Sun 'n Fun J3 Cub
inspection booth in the past!)
So, if someone has gone this route, let me know.
Scott Thatcher
601XL with Corvair Power
92% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Facing Brakes. |
Shot at and missed - shit at and hit? - Jay
"Edward Moody II" <dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
>I mounted the gear legs with the flat side facing forward as per the new version
of the assembly guide. I mounted the brake calipers behind the gear (and slightly
below axle level). I'm using the new style wheel pants and had to warm
them up with a heat gun after installation to keep the pants from dragging on
the brake rotor. Didn't take much reshaping but both sides were lightly riding
on the rotors. All is well now. Nosewheel pant is bored out for the strut, sawed
into two pieces (front and rear) the rejoining aluminum trips and nutplates
are done and rivetted. It's ready to be mounted to the brackets on the fork.
>
>I'll soon be moving the project out to the new hangar which should be complete
in a couple of weeks. Interesting side note..... a group of cattle broke out
from a neighbor at the airport Tuesday night during a rainstorm. They sought out
high ground which turned out to be my brand new clean hangar slab. They apparently
decided to hang out there and have a crapping contest. My concrete now
looks and smells like a stockyard. Thrilling.
>
>Dred
>601XL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Mulwitz
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:27 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Forward Facing Brakes.
>
>
>
> I am currently doing battle with the main landing gear wheels and
> brakes. One of the interesting issues that comes up is whether to
> mount the brake calipers forward of the wheels or aft.
>
> The instructions that come with the Grove kit indicate the calipers
> should be mounted in front of the wheel. However, the ZAC photo
> guide shows them mounted behind the wheels.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
you the builder can get your repairmans cert in the normal events after your airworthyness
cert is finished for this aircraft only. your buyer should still have
any?opps available
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 7:47 am
Subject: Zenith-List: Anyone Register as E-LSA?
Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there others
working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
The reason I'm trying to go this route is to allow the buyer of my airplane
(in 10-15 years), the chance to do his (her) own work on it should they take
the 16 hour maintenance program. I will also need to take the 16 hour
training even though I built the plane because of the E-LSA registration.
But I don't consider that wasted energy since I really need to know more
about inspections anyway (I've not done very well at the Sun 'n Fun J3 Cub
inspection booth in the past!)
So, if someone has gone this route, let me know.
Scott Thatcher
601XL with Corvair Power
92% complete
________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Juan,
What did you use a a finish for the panel?
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129434#129434
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
I'mm wondering if you registered the plane EAB and skipped the 16 hour course,
could a future owner re-register the plane E-LSA by having it go through another
airworthiness inspection? Just a thought.
Dred
---- Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
> process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there others
> working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
>
> The reason I'm trying to go this route is to allow the buyer of my airplane
> (in 10-15 years), the chance to do his (her) own work on it should they take
> the 16 hour maintenance program. I will also need to take the 16 hour
> training even though I built the plane because of the E-LSA registration.
> But I don't consider that wasted energy since I really need to know more
> about inspections anyway (I've not done very well at the Sun 'n Fun J3 Cub
> inspection booth in the past!)
>
> So, if someone has gone this route, let me know.
>
> Scott Thatcher
> 601XL with Corvair Power
> 92% complete
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Forward Facing Brakes. |
REPEATEDLY.
Dred,
Do Not Archive
---- Jaybannist@cs.com wrote:
>
> Shot at and missed - shit at and hit? - Jay
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
Scott,
As a E-AB any future owner would still be able to do any maintenance. They wouldn't
be able to do the condition inspection. So all you gain with the E-LSA is
the ability to pass on the ability to do the condition inspections.
I really don't know how much of a plus that is and as far as what it will be in
10-15 years is a complete unknown.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129438#129438
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Juan,
Good job, everything looks well laid out and handy for the pilot. If
the GPS I see is a Lowrance 2000c, good choice. I have one of those and
think it's the best deal on the market for the price.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>>
>>
>>Jaun,
>>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that
>>way? I'd like to see your panel.
>>Dan Dempsey
>>
>>
>>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>>
>>> Juan
>>>
>>
>>
>>--------
>>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
I think there is a little confusion over the difference between
registering your plane and airworthiness certificates. (Of course,
it might be me who is confused.)
A registration is a temporary thing that attaches a tail number to a
plane. It seems important in the regulation system because we
builders tend to register our planes before getting airworthiness
certificates, but for most planes the airworthiness certificate comes first.
The airworthiness certificate determines what kind of plane you
have. It might be registered or unregistered many times with
different tail numbers over the life of the plane, but the original
airworthiness certificate still determines what kind of plane it is.
In this funny case (E-LSA vs. E-AB) there are some gains and losses
depending on which path you choose. This will all come to an end
next year when the fat ultralight rule expires. Then the
determination of E-LSA vs E-AB will be made by the original purchase
rather than the builder's choice. You won't be able to register a
E-LSA "kit" as E-AB or vice versa.
If I got all this wrong, then let me apologize to everyone now . . .
Paul
XL fuselage
do not archive
At 06:27 AM 8/16/2007, you wrote:
>I'mm wondering if you registered the plane EAB and skipped the 16
>hour course, could a future owner re-register the plane E-LSA by
>having it go through another airworthiness inspection? Just a thought.
>
>Dred
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
Nope. Can't do that.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Anyone Register as E-LSA?
>
> I'mm wondering if you registered the plane EAB and skipped the 16 hour
> course, could a future owner re-register the plane E-LSA by having it go
> through another airworthiness inspection? Just a thought.
>
> Dred
>
> ---- Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
>> process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there
>> others
>> working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
>>
>> The reason I'm trying to go this route is to allow the buyer of my
>> airplane
>> (in 10-15 years), the chance to do his (her) own work on it should they
>> take
>> the 16 hour maintenance program. I will also need to take the 16 hour
>> training even though I built the plane because of the E-LSA registration.
>> But I don't consider that wasted energy since I really need to know more
>> about inspections anyway (I've not done very well at the Sun 'n Fun J3
>> Cub
>> inspection booth in the past!)
>>
>> So, if someone has gone this route, let me know.
>>
>> Scott Thatcher
>> 601XL with Corvair Power
>> 92% complete
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Flap Actuator |
Great information! Will follow up and see if I can find Surplus Center
stuff.
Pictures of your install would be greatly appreciated.
Again, thanks for all the great info.
This list is a great resource!
George
do not archive
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List: Has anyone documented the installation of the top window on a 701?
Zenith evidently thought it was obvious, so it isn't documented in the
drawings, etc. Didn't see anything in the archives. Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Larry Wood
(N701LW reserved)
do not archive
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
I think you've got that 50% right. An E-LSA kit that is NOT built to the manufacturer's
specs should still be able to be registered as a E-AB. That is assuming
the manufacturer allows you to do that.
psm(at)ATT.NET wrote:
> You won't be able to register a
> E-LSA "kit" as E-AB or vice versa.
>
> If I got all this wrong, then let me apologize to everyone now . . .
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
> do not archive
>
>
>
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129471#129471
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| Subject: | 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? |
Has anybody has done any kind of belly pod on a 601?
Seen a lot of 601's without the wing lockers. Perhaps owners wanting some additional
cargo capacity would find an external location between the main landing
gear to be simpler than retrofitting wing lockers?
Anybody done it? Anybody thought of doing it?
Pro's & con's...?
Patrick
XL/Corvair
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129474#129474
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| Subject: | 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? |
Has anybody has done any kind of belly pod on a 601?
I have not seen or done it, but I have entertained the idea. I
was thinking of a fiberglass tub D-zused to the belly and not too deep.
Weight would be the biggest factor. Two adults and a little luggage with
full tanks is right at the edge of the envelope. It wouldn't leave a lot
for the pod and contents. Just my $ .02.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coating equipment |
I read somewhere recently that the HF gun is nicer than the Eastwood, but
that the HF powders are not very good. I can't find where I read that.
Dino
On 8/15/07, lwinger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Someone on the CorvAircraft list posted this:
>
> Harbor freight has a sale on their powder coating system item 94244-1BHB
> $49.99.
> Includes gun, foot switch, filter, and two cups. Use the magazine item
> number not the one listed on line for the deep discount. Don't ask me how
> good or bad it is I have no idea.
> Joe G.
>
> -------------
>
> Does anyone on this list have experience with the HF version?
>
> --------
> Larry Winger
> Tustin, CA
> 601XL/Corvair from scratch
> Control surfaces and wing spars complete
> Making wing ribs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129348#129348
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coating equipment |
Oops, I spoke too soon. I found the reference I was looking for at
http://www.nationaltbucketalliance.com/tech_info/Generalinformation/Pcoating/index.asp
"The Caswell kit costs a little more, but comes with excellent customer
support, and a powder coating forum where you can ask questions and learn to
powder coat like a pro. You can check out the Caswell powder coating forum
here <http://www.caswellplating.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=4>. The Eastwood
powder guns are a bit more expensive, and are not built as well as the
Harbor Freight or Caswell guns."
Dino
On 8/16/07, Dino Bortolin <dbortol@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I read somewhere recently that the HF gun is nicer than the Eastwood, but
> that the HF powders are not very good. I can't find where I read that.
>
> Dino
>
> On 8/15/07, lwinger <larrywinger@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Someone on the CorvAircraft list posted this:
> >
> > Harbor freight has a sale on their powder coating system item 94244-1BHB
> > $49.99.
> > Includes gun, foot switch, filter, and two cups. Use the magazine item
> > number not the one listed on line for the deep discount. Don't ask me how
> > good or bad it is I have no idea.
> > Joe G.
> >
> > -------------
> >
> > Does anyone on this list have experience with the HF version?
> >
> > --------
> > Larry Winger
> > Tustin, CA
> > 601XL/Corvair from scratch
> > Control surfaces and wing spars complete
> > Making wing ribs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129348#129348
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
No, that can't be done.
The only way to certificate a 601XL as an E-LSA is under the "Fat
ultralight" exception to the rules and then only if it has never had an
airworthiness certificate before. After the "fat ultralight" clause
expires on January 31st next year, the only ways to certificate an
airplane as an E-LSA is if was specifically produced by the manufacturer
as an E-LSA kit or to convert an S-LSA to E-LSA status. The 601XL is not
available as an approved E-LSA kit and as far as I know, neither AMD nor
Zenith plan take that step.
In any case, the only difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who is
allowed to sign off the annual inspections. The owner of either type is
allowed to perform any and all maintenance on his plane.
dredmoody@cox.net wrote:
>
> I'mm wondering if you registered the plane EAB and skipped the 16 hour course,
could a future owner re-register the plane E-LSA by having it go through another
airworthiness inspection? Just a thought.
>
> Dred
>
> ---- Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
>> process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there others
>> working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
>>
>>> Scott Thatcher
>> 601XL with Corvair Power
>> 92% complete
>>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
The only difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who is allowed to sign off
the annual inspections. The owner of either type is allowed to perform
any and all maintenance on his plane.
Scott Thatcher wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
> process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there others
> working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
>
> The reason I'm trying to go this route is to allow the buyer of my airplane
> (in 10-15 years), the chance to do his (her) own work on it should they take
> the 16 hour maintenance program. I will also need to take the 16 hour
> training even though I built the plane because of the E-LSA registration.
> But I don't consider that wasted energy since I really need to know more
> about inspections anyway (I've not done very well at the Sun 'n Fun J3 Cub
> inspection booth in the past!)
>
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Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
You might be able to certificate an E-LSA kit as an E-AB if it also
meets the 51% rule. You will not be able to certificate an E-AB kit as
an E-LSA. There is also a provision in the rules to convert an S-LSA to
E-LSA status.
Paul Mulwitz wrote:
>
>
> In this funny case (E-LSA vs. E-AB) there are some gains and losses
> depending on which path you choose. This will all come to an end next
> year when the fat ultralight rule expires. Then the determination of
> E-LSA vs E-AB will be made by the original purchase rather than the
> builder's choice. You won't be able to register a E-LSA "kit" as E-AB
> or vice versa.
>
>
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Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
Does it make a difference if one wants to rent their plane out to others?>
> In any case, the only difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who is > allow
ed to sign off the annual inspections. The owner of either type is > allowe
d to perform any and all maintenance on his plane.>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
Bryan,
I called EAA and they told me exactly the same thing as your post with one
exception: I was told that any future deviations made to an S-LSA is a lot
more difficult than changes to an E-LSA.
Clyde Barcus
601 XL, Nashville, TN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Anyone Register as E-LSA?
>
> No, that can't be done.
>
> The only way to certificate a 601XL as an E-LSA is under the "Fat
> ultralight" exception to the rules and then only if it has never had an
> airworthiness certificate before. After the "fat ultralight" clause
> expires on January 31st next year, the only ways to certificate an
> airplane as an E-LSA is if was specifically produced by the manufacturer
> as an E-LSA kit or to convert an S-LSA to E-LSA status. The 601XL is not
> available as an approved E-LSA kit and as far as I know, neither AMD nor
> Zenith plan take that step.
>
> In any case, the only difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who is allowed
> to sign off the annual inspections. The owner of either type is allowed to
> perform any and all maintenance on his plane.
>
> dredmoody@cox.net wrote:
>>
>> I'mm wondering if you registered the plane EAB and skipped the 16 hour
>> course, could a future owner re-register the plane E-LSA by having it go
>> through another airworthiness inspection? Just a thought.
>>
>> Dred
>>
>> ---- Scott Thatcher <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> <s_thatcher@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried to register the 601XL as an E-LSA? I've started the
>>> process and wondering if I'm going down this path alone or are there
>>> others
>>> working to meet the deadline of 1/31/2008?
>>>
>>>> Scott Thatcher
>>> 601XL with Corvair Power
>>> 92% complete
>>>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> Zenith 601XL N61BM
> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: [EAA347] Sonex accident |
Hi group ,this is not Zenith related however thought I would pass it on .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:22 AM
Subject: [EAA347] Sonex accident
> http://www.ntxe-news.com/artman/publish/article_39551.shtml
>
> Now, what would cause that specific kind of damage, a flat spin?
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone Register as E-LSA? |
An E-LSA can be used for flight training and can be rented for the
purposes of flight training until Jan 31, 2010. After that, it will no
longer be allowed. An exemption can be obtained allowing an E-AB to be
rented for transition training for someone with the same type airplane.
Ryan Vechinski wrote:
> Does it make a difference if one wants to rent their plane out to others?
>
>
> >
> > In any case, the only difference between E-AB and E-LSA is who is
> > allowed to sign off the annual inspections. The owner of either type is
> > allowed to perform any and all maintenance on his plane.
> >
>
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Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Yes there is a new software version, however it has a glitch that prevents the
GPS from reading on the D 100. I am waiting for the fix before any downloads.
GPS is interconnected to My Dynon. I red bug shows the GPS direction on the
comppasss.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Lykowski <engineerguy3737@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 16, 2007 3:01 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Now that is a nice panel :)
>
>I'll offer a tip: There is a new software version available for your D-100 and
D-120.
>
>Dan Lykowski
>Dynon Avionics
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com; zenith-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:35:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>where i was over weekend prior to propeller install.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: leinad <leinad@hughes.net>
>>Sent: Aug 15, 2007 8:56 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>>
>>
>>Jaun,
>>It looks like only part of the picture loaded. Are others seeing it that way?
I'd like to see your panel.
>>Dan Dempsey
>>
>>
>>> finallty plugged the panel in.
>>>
>>> Juan
>>>
>>
>>
>>--------
>>Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129381#129381
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the
Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
>http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
it is a textures Powder coat , match the other intereior pieces such as window
sill and central panel and side curtains as well. Looks more finished. Powder
coating is also scratch proof when done right.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>Sent: Aug 16, 2007 9:25 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: panel finally done
>
>
>Juan,
>
>What did you use a a finish for the panel?
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129434#129434
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel finally done |
Juan,
Thanks for reposting the pictures. Beautiful job!
Dan Dempsey
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--------
Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129540#129540
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: [EAA347] Sonex accident |
In a message dated 8/16/2007 6:27:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
wjones@brazoriainet.com writes:
_http://www.ntxe-news.com/artman/publish/article_39551.shtml_
(http://www.ntxe-news.com/artman/publish/article_39551.shtml)
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Let me give a WAG, lost of power/partial power on takeoff maybe causing a
stall. Looks like a fire so fuel was in the aircraft-to the engine would take
more information. Jerry-GA
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? |
Rick,
The Zodiac601XL is a very good cross country airplane. The only
problem I can see is if you want to take someone with you there is no place
to put the luggage. If you go alone you can place it on the passenger seat
but who wants to go alone. If view of the above your idea is a very good
one and if the luggage pod were streamlined and placed at the center of
gravity I see no reason why it would not work. Of course climb and cruise
performance would be effected but that would mean that it would just take a
little longer to get there. My ZodiacXL has the Jabiru 3300, 120 HP engine
so there is plenty of power even with a luggage pod.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beckman, Rick" <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...?
>
>
> Has anybody has done any kind of belly pod on a 601?
>
> I have not seen or done it, but I have entertained the idea. I
> was thinking of a fiberglass tub D-zused to the belly and not too deep.
> Weight would be the biggest factor. Two adults and a little luggage with
> full tanks is right at the edge of the envelope. It wouldn't leave a lot
> for the pod and contents. Just my $ .02.
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Belly Cargo Pod...? |
Rick, The 601HDS is a better cross country plane. Mine weighs in at
674 lbs, empty. Add me and my wife +340 lbs. = 1014 lbs. Add 20 Gal of
fuel in leading edge tanks, + 120 lbs. = 1144 lbs. That leaves 56 lbs
for baggage. I have two wing lockers, 40 lbs each and baggage shelf 40
lbs. If I wanted to haul 120 lbs of baggage that would cut my fuel to
9.3 lbs or 2 hr. 20 min at 75% power. I have a three hour bladder so I
would load 4 hr. fuel, 15.6 gal. or 94 lbs and increase baggage to 82
lbs. Only cruse at 120 mph with 75% power on my Rotax 912UL.
Leo Gates
N601Z
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robert stone wrote:
>
> Rick,
> The Zodiac601XL is a very good cross country airplane.
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder coating equipment |
Thanks, Dino. I guess I'll give it a try, perhaps with an upgraded powder
product from another company. I have a feeling it will come in handy for
surfaces inside the cockpit.
Larry Winger
Scratch building 601XL/Corvair
Tustin, CA
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