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1. 02:59 AM - Re: Slightly off topic. No more zinc chromate from Wicks (Elwood140@aol.com)
2. 04:28 AM - STOL Landings (ZodieRocket)
3. 06:39 AM - RE : Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks (Jean-Paul Roy)
4. 06:39 AM - RE : Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks (Jean-Paul Roy)
5. 07:47 AM - Re: Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks (Trainnut01@aol.com)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: AOA for your Dynon (Gig Giacona)
7. 10:19 AM - Running new lines in a closed wing (Craig Payne)
8. 12:02 PM - Re: Running new lines in a closed wing (Gig Giacona)
9. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Running new lines in a closed wing (Craig Payne)
10. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Running new lines in a closed wing ()
11. 01:32 PM - Re: Running new lines in a closed wing (Gig Giacona)
12. 02:38 PM - Draft from the canopy (alex_01)
13. 03:01 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (Bryan Martin)
14. 03:07 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (ZodieRocket)
15. 03:19 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (alex_01)
16. 03:32 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (robert stone)
17. 04:11 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (Juan Vega)
18. 04:24 PM - Re: EZ Pilot Dispaly Question (jackandval)
19. 05:03 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (george may)
20. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: AOA for your Dynon (Tim Shankland)
21. 05:47 PM - Re: 601XL Near Perfect Flight (PatrickW)
22. 06:29 PM - Mid-Atlantic Zenith Gathering at Winchester (Jeff)
23. 06:39 PM - Re: Draft from the canopy (george may)
24. 09:17 PM - Re: Running new lines in a closed wing (Ron Lendon)
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| Subject: | Re: Slightly off topic. No more zinc chromate from Wicks |
Zinc oxide works well and is not so toxic. Wicks still sells that.
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Larry Wood
(N701LW reserved)
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This is for the Archives, and for the fact that I have been asked
several times.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
Flying the STOL CH 701
STOL CH 701 ' FLAP OPERATIONS
[The following was supplied by M. Stewart of Australia]
Several owners and pilots of the HYPERLINK
"http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/index1.html"STOL CH 701 aircraft
have asked for details on the correct method of effecting a full or
partial flap landing with the STOL CH 701. Because the aircraft is
principally a STOL aircraft, it does have certain flight
characteristics, which are particular to this design. Such design
features as its STOL handling, rugged construction and all-metal
airframe, large baggage compartment and easy step in ' step out access
make the CH701 an excellent bush aircraft. The aircraft has a very
forgiving and wise "comfort zone", where you can fly without flap or
even with partial flap, with the expectation that it will handle
"conventionally". This is the nicest zone to fly in and requires little
extra skill than the normal or ab-initial pilot would possess.
However, like any airplane, it needs to be understood and true short
field handling requires practice, no matter what your flying skills. The
airplane can be landed quite safely and without power in all flap
settings. What is required for the more exotic maneuvers, I say again,
is practice.
First, let us take a look at the aircraft wing. It has a fixed leading
edge slat. This produces much higher amounts of lift than a regular wing
but the trade off is increased drag.
wing profiles
Next, let us consider the full-length flaperons. Again, much higher
lifting potential on full extension, coming down some 35 degrees and in
effect have an "air brake" effect on the aircraft.
Although exceptionally strong, the airplane is still a very light design
(ie. an Ultralight) and therefore, its kinetic energy is less than a
much heavier (general aviation) aircraft. As such, once it picks up
extra drag, it either requires more thrust to match or it slows down.
This thrust is either with engine power, or by lowering the nose more.
In essence, if the STOL CH 701 is flying "clean" (the nice comfort
zone), it flies little different to any other "regular" aircraft of its
size. Once flap is selected, the geometry of the aircraft alters and as
a consequence, the pilot must modify the handling ' albeit slightly.
If the pilot wishes to learn the more exotic STOL handling of the
airplane, there are two ways the STOL CH 701 pilot can learn. For
simplicity, I will list them.
To begin with, there is no substitute for going two up with either a
qualified instructor or STOL CH 701 pilot who is current in handling
STOL aircraft in short field techniques with flaps. If you don=92t have
that good fortune, the following is a guide in building up the required
experience in handling the STOL CH 701 with flaps:
* Choose a calm air day. Don=92t try to practice on gusty or bumpy
days. You need to know how your aircraft is handling in calm air, before
you take on the rough stuff. STOL aircraft are more sensitive to gusts
and bumps, when set up with flap, etc. ' that=92s why they=92re STOL!
* If you are a low time pilot you should initially build up to 20
or 30 hours of "comfort zone" flying. That is to say, don=92t use the
flap
at all. Just get used to the "feel" of the STOL CH 701. If you are a
more experienced pilot you will no doubt cut that initial period down
dramatically. Even in the flapless condition, you will be able to enjoy
very short field handling of the STOL CH 701. Some 701 pilots simply
ignore the flaps, as they get all the enjoyment they need with the
aircraft flying clean.
* Once you have a feel of the STOL CH 701, take it up to a safe
height for upper air work. Bring the airspeed back to under flap
extension speed. Apply =BD flap. Then, keeping under the flap extension
speed, just fly the airplane around for awhile until you are acquainted
with the lower nose attitude and handling -and the need for more engine
power.
* Once you are comfortable with the new attitude, try a couple of
stalls with the power off. This exercise is performed to reacquaint you
with your stall speed. Next try coming in to the stall very slowly. You
will notice the aircraft tends to hold its nose up, or even level - and
starts to "mush" downwards. Learn to recognize the airspeed just before
it starts the mush. That is the airspeed you need to be above on flare
once you start the actual landings. Make a note of it and give yourself
a few knots above as your minimum - just for extra safety.
* Then, put the aircraft into a glide approach, making a decision
to effect a flare at say, 1,500 ft AGL. A VSI is helpful but you should
be able to feel rise or fall through your seat.
* Once you get to your designated height, practice with and
without power. Imagine flaring the airplane at the exact designated
height. Take note of your airspeed. You will notice that the ASI drops
off more rapidly with =BD flap, when compared to nil flap for a similar
maneuver. You will also notice a steeper nose down attitude is required
for =BD flap.
* Having practiced these approaches, start making powered
approaches at the runway with =BD flap. Once you are comfortable,
gradually reduce power settings until you are using a glide approach.
Note the steeper glide angle.
* When commencing with Full Flap, repeat the above steps. You will
also notice the very much steeper descent and lower nose attitude '
which is how STOL works. Steep in ' steep out. It can be a bit
disconcerting and many pilots try to hold the nose of the aircraft at
the "comfort zone" attitude and therefore lose airspeed and therefore
elevator authority in the final stages of approach and as a result may
wheelbarrow the aircraft on.
Remember the cardinal rule with STOL ' "Anticipate and Practice!"
Generally speaking, most STOL approaches with flap should be carried out
with a degree of power. Unpowered, full flap approaches are achievable
but require good pilot handling skills and a reasonable depth perception
' principally in knowing when to flare. Airspeed is the critical
factor
in minimum speed operations when approaching terra firma. Be ready to go
around. Full power will usually kick the STOL CH 701 upwards very
smartly ' getting you away from the ground.
In Summary:
1. Try to obtain the services of a qualified instructor or suitably
experienced STOL CH 701 pilot. Failing that:
2. Fly the airplane for 20-30 hours in the 'flapless' condition,
unless you are a high time pilot.
3. Make your initial flap approaches onto an imaginary airfield
1,000 or so higher than the ground.
4. Graduate your power settings, starting with =BD flap and then
going to full flap.
5. Keep your airspeed up on approach. (I use 2 kts below Vfe)
6. Note the much steeper nose down attitude for the two flap
settings.
7. Timing of the flare is important. Too soon and speed will bleed
off.
8. If you think you are sinking too much, apply power smartly until
sink is arrested.
9. Practice! Practice! Practice!
There are nearly 600 STOL CH 701s flying around the world. My
information is that there has never been a fatality. They are used in
Africa for one-on-one safari: and in South America into jungle strips
and mud flats. They fly into lakes wet and frozen, in the Arctic north
of America. They hop in and out of tight spots and flap is used as and
when needed. Appreciate this little airplane will fly "conventionally"
but when you are ready, it will happily do what you ask of it when tight
spots and flap is employed. It will fly "conventionally" and happily
give you hours of as much exciting and exotic flying as any STOL pilot
properly practiced could wish for!
9/16/2007 6:32 PM
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| Subject: | Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks |
Car Quest or Napa sell ratlle cans Zinc Chromate.
John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> a crit : Today when I placed an order
for some Zinc Chromate, their sales rep advised me that Wicks will no longer carry
the stuff. They will be switching to an oxide based primer.
While I don't want to start another primer or scotchbrite debate, I know a good
number of people use the stuff, or are still deciding what to use.
Hope this is helpful,
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder
to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
Jean-Paul Roy
royjp@yahoo.ca
Tl: (819)949-2216
Cell:(819)629-9360
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| Subject: | Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks |
Car Quest or Napa sell ratlle cans Zinc Chromate.
do not
John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> a crit :
Today when I placed an order for some Zinc Chromate, their sales rep advised
me that Wicks will no longer carry the stuff. They will be switching to an oxide
based primer.
While I don't want to start another primer or scotchbrite debate, I know a good
number of people use the stuff, or are still deciding what to use.
Hope this is helpful,
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder
to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
Jean-Paul Roy
royjp@yahoo.ca
Tl: (819)949-2216
Cell:(819)629-9360
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| Subject: | Re: Slightly off topic: No more Zinc Chromate from Wicks |
John
Try SkyGeek.com they still have it.
Carroll
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| Subject: | Re: AOA for your Dynon |
I have a couple of questions.
1. Have you flown with it yet?
2. Where is it in relation to the standard 601 Pitot/Static probe?
3. It looks alot like the standard probe. DO you see any reason that the standard
probe, that comes in the kit, couldn't be modified into you design?
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Running new lines in a closed wing |
The wings are closed in the second-hand 601XL kit I bought. The original
builder ran the Pitot/static lines and wires for the landing lights. The
existing wires run through grommeted holes in the ribs. But I'm adding
strobes, nav lights and an AOA probe. The AOA probe is like the AFS probe
with flush ports in the upper and lower wing surfaces near the tip
(www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Products/AOA/aoa.html). So I don't need
access to the middle of the wing, just a way to run wires and Tygon from the
root to the tip.
So how do I run the new lines? I've thought of a number of approaches:
- just lay the lines through the lightening holes and let them flap around
(semi-serious)
- lay conduit through the lightening holes and only clamp it at the ends.
- like above but add an inspection port in the middle of the wing's bottom
surface to allow a third clamp for the conduit in the middle.
- remove the existing wires and use an electricians 5 foot drill extension
from both ends to enlarge holes to support conduit.
- open the skins.
Comments? Other approaches? If I open the skins can it be done without
having to re-jig the wing?
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Running new lines in a closed wing |
You should have once access point at the aileron bell-crank. You might be able
to reach far enough in there to put some sort of clamp on the bundle.
I'd add another access somewhere else and do the same.
This is assuming that you don't have wing lockers that you are going around.
craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote:
> The wings are closed in the second-hand 601XL kit I bought. The original
> builder ran the Pitot/static lines and wires for the landing lights. The
> existing wires run through grommeted holes in the ribs. But I'm adding
> strobes, nav lights and an AOA probe. The AOA probe is like the AFS probe
> with flush ports in the upper and lower wing surfaces near the tip
> (www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Products/AOA/aoa.html). So I don't need
> access to the middle of the wing, just a way to run wires and Tygon from the
> root to the tip.
>
> So how do I run the new lines? I've thought of a number of approaches:
>
> - just lay the lines through the lightening holes and let them flap around
> (semi-serious)
> - lay conduit through the lightening holes and only clamp it at the ends.
> - like above but add an inspection port in the middle of the wing's bottom
> surface to allow a third clamp for the conduit in the middle.
> - remove the existing wires and use an electricians 5 foot drill extension
> from both ends to enlarge holes to support conduit.
> - open the skins.
>
> Comments? Other approaches? If I open the skins can it be done without
> having to re-jig the wing?
>
> -- Craig
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Running new lines in a closed wing |
> This is assuming that you don't have wing lockers that you are going
around.
Nope, no wing lockers so the lightening holes are available. Now adding wing
lockers would get me some access in to the wing's interior but they are
pretty close to the root.
I've considered the crank access hole but it is pretty small to work
through. I think I'd need an arthroscopic surgeon to do the work. Dred is
used to working in small places but I think he uses both hands.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Running new lines in a closed wing |
I confess that I made significantly larger aileron bellcrank access ports. But
then again, I do work on the back end of third molars.
Dred
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---- Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com> wrote:
>
> > This is assuming that you don't have wing lockers that you are going
> around.
>
> Nope, no wing lockers so the lightening holes are available. Now adding wing
> lockers would get me some access in to the wing's interior but they are
> pretty close to the root.
>
> I've considered the crank access hole but it is pretty small to work
> through. I think I'd need an arthroscopic surgeon to do the work. Dred is
> used to working in small places but I think he uses both hands.
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| Subject: | Re: Running new lines in a closed wing |
My bell-crank access points are large. I made the same mistake twice.
But for this you really won't need access to them after you do the original install
so there isn't a problem with doing as many as you need and riveting the
cover on them.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Draft from the canopy |
as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any of you have
similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of canopy left
and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to reduce it?
alex
CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW
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| Subject: | Re: Draft from the canopy |
The seals fit pretty tight on my canopy, so I don't have your particular
problem. You might try filling the gaps with weatherstripping from the
hardware store. I have some installed on the bottom of the canopy rails
to seal up that area and it works well.
alex_01 wrote:
>
> as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any of you have
similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of canopy left
and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to reduce it?
> alex
> CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW
>
>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Draft from the canopy |
Remember those days pilots wore silk scarfs, well it is not that we
don't like the feel of silk, we just don't like the breeze coming in
beside the panel. So remove your scarf and jam it in there. Mittens work
well too. :-)
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of alex_01
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Draft from the canopy
as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any of
you have similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of
canopy left and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to
reduce it?
alex
CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW
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9/17/2007 1:29 PM
9/17/2007 1:29 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Draft from the canopy |
i am using currently a sock on each side - just hoped for a nicer way. use the
sealant tape on the bottom too and there it works fine.
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| Subject: | Re: Draft from the canopy |
Members
I have a problem with my canopy in the back rather than the front.
It is real tight across the front and sides but where it goes across the
back there is a gap on both sides and I can feel the air on the back of my
neck. This condition feels good here in Centrtal Texas during the summer
but I sure do not want this condition to exist when winter comes. I tried
weather striping under the seal and the problem with that is, with it in
place the canopy will not latch. any suggestions as to how to solve this
problem.
Tracy Stone
Harker Heights, Tx
ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Draft from the canopy
>
> The seals fit pretty tight on my canopy, so I don't have your particular
> problem. You might try filling the gaps with weatherstripping from the
> hardware store. I have some installed on the bottom of the canopy rails to
> seal up that area and it works well.
>
> alex_01 wrote:
>>
>> as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any of
>> you have similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of
>> canopy left and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to
>> reduce it?
>> alex
>> CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW
>>
>>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> Zenith 601XL N61BM
> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Draft from the canopy |
one fixit i saw on a a lopresti fury and a Navair is funning a piece of 1 to 2
inches felt along inside of rubber gasket on back on the body, and on the side
where the flashing ends.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: robert stone <rstone4@hot.rr.com>
>Sent: Sep 18, 2007 6:31 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Draft from the canopy
>
>
> Members
> I have a problem with my canopy in the back rather than the front.
>It is real tight across the front and sides but where it goes across the
>back there is a gap on both sides and I can feel the air on the back of my
>neck. This condition feels good here in Centrtal Texas during the summer
>but I sure do not want this condition to exist when winter comes. I tried
>weather striping under the seal and the problem with that is, with it in
>place the canopy will not latch. any suggestions as to how to solve this
>problem.
>
>Tracy Stone
>Harker Heights, Tx
>ZodiacXL w/Jabiru 3300
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:02 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Draft from the canopy
>
>
>>
>> The seals fit pretty tight on my canopy, so I don't have your particular
>> problem. You might try filling the gaps with weatherstripping from the
>> hardware store. I have some installed on the bottom of the canopy rails to
>> seal up that area and it works well.
>>
>> alex_01 wrote:
>>>
>>> as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any of
>>> you have similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of
>>> canopy left and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to
>>> reduce it?
>>> alex
>>> CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Bryan Martin
>> Zenith 601XL N61BM
>> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ Pilot Dispaly Question |
I think it only comes in the LCD model now. [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Draft from the canopy |
I put some pieces of weather stripping vertically just in front of the lift
strut.
George May
601XL 912s 150 hours> Subject: Zenith-List: Draft from the canopy> From: z
oechling@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:37:46 -0700> To: zenith-list@mat
e>> > as we come now closer to the cooler part of the year i wonder if any
of you have similar problems with a bit of a draft from the forward part of
canopy left and right just beside the instrument panel. any ideas how to r
educe it?> alex> CH601XL 912S RTF from CZAW> > > > > Read this topic online
here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=135136#135136> > >
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| Subject: | Re: AOA for your Dynon |
Gig,
To answer your questions
1. Yes I have flown with it, I did a series of stalls as indicated in
the Dynon instructions for calibrating the unit. I have also flown it
twice since and the indicator on the Dynon gives a steady reliable response.
2. It is the pitot tube. The Dynon used the pitot tube as one of the
references and the angled tube as the other. All this or any other AOA
is is a sum of the vector magnitudes of the air in each tube. It can be
shown mathematically, and I have, That with the two probes as shown
there is a linear relationship between the angle of attack and the their
pressure differential.
3. It is a duplicate of a standard probe, the only reason I used
copper is that it was easier to solder them together. You could use the
existing pitot and add the second probe you just have to fasten them
together. tie wraps?
Gig Giacona wrote:
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>I have a couple of questions.
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>1. Have you flown with it yet?
>2. Where is it in relation to the standard 601 Pitot/Static probe?
>3. It looks alot like the standard probe. DO you see any reason that the standard
probe, that comes in the kit, couldn't be modified into you design?
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>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Near Perfect Flight |
davgray(at)sbcglobal.net wrote:
> For me I would have been much better off ordering an engine from William Wynne
and not listen to the local experts. My initial ignorance added to my build
time and overall cost. Virtually all of the initial work had to be redone.
>
If I may ask, what were some of the mistakes...?
I'm currently building a Corvair for the first time, so maybe I could learn something
here.
Any advice or "gotchas" that can help us new guys out...?
Thanks,
Patrick
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Mid-Atlantic Zenith Gathering at Winchester |
Zenith Enthusiasts:
It is now less than a week until the Gathering! It is Iooking like the
weather will shape up for a great weekend on the 22nd and the 23rd. I have
information and prizes from HomeBuiltHelp, CAN-ZAC, The Zenith Newsletter,
Zenith Aircraft Company, Aircraft Manufacturing & Development, and more on
the way. The tent and parking area are arranged with the EAA Chapter along
with a brand new Zenith Gathering banner big enough to see from Traffic
Pattern Altitude. The displays are coming along great and an area to
demonstrate sheet metal building Zenith style is too. And some fun with
identifying Zenith parts is in the mix.
But the highlight of the show will be the planes that fly in. In order to
entice as many to fly in as possible, I have arranged for some was to save
money on your trip:
First, there is no fee to fly in and attend the Gathering and the EAA
fly-in. But please do register on your arrival with the Chapter.
Second, HomeBuiltHelp has provided me with coupons to "Buy 1 DVD - Get 1
Free!" That's 2 DVDs for the price of one. I'll have a large selection of
the HomebuiltHelp and Zenith DVDs on hand to demonstrate at the Gathering so
you can decide which to buy.
Third, I have made arrangements with the airport management to pay for some
of your gas. I will be issuing my own coupons good to top off the tanks of
any Zenith 601, 701, 801, 200, 250, 300, 640, Zipper, Alarus, CH-2000, or
Patriot that flies in up to 10 gallons. This offer is good up to an
absolute limit of $500 cost to me. Only one coupon per airplane. Simply
find me at the Zenith Gathering tent for your coupon. If that many planes
fly in, I will consider the Five Hundred Dollars well spent. So come on
down and top off your tanks on me! If you trailer it in, I'll put some gas
in your tow vehicle.
So make you plans to be in Winchester next weekend. I'm hoping for a large
turnout of Zenith enthusiasts and aircraft!
Jeff Davidson
703-471-1153
<mailto:zenithgathering@earthlink.net> zenithgathering@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Draft from the canopy |
Tracy--
I had/have the same issue. The cockpit is a low pressure area so the air
definitely gets sucked in.
The first thing I did was to add a second piece of rubber combing to the re
ar canopy edge by gluing it to the bottom edge of the existing combing. Thi
s extended the width of the rubber seal and yet kept everything flexible. I
n addition I added a piece of very soft foam (homedepot pipe insulation) to
the inside rear bottom of the canopy. And yes, all this does increase the
closing pressure needed to latch the canopy.
I also had to come up with a lever to help in closing the canopy on the pas
senger side.
Also found I had to close off the open space behind the seats with plast
ic and tape along with insuring the boot top is snugged tight to the contro
l stick, and the vents capped off. With all this in place I've been able to
fly comfortably with the temps at 14F at altitude.
George May
601XL 912s 150hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Running new lines in a closed wing |
Craig,
I am just about to close up my left wing. It has all the stuff in it you are planing
and has been rotated several times. I think you could remove the top leading
edge skin and top wing skin as long as you have a good flat table to check
the wing you should be able to take it apart and put it back together.
Punch the rivet centers back then just take the heads off with a sharp drill.
I would want to check the wings out any way. Zenith made up a new book this year
that shows a method of checking Wing Twist "6w08aa.pdf", it's in the builders
photo assembly guide area.
If you find the wing is in good shape just re-wire, plumb and assemble.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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