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1. 03:33 AM - Re: Transponder antenna location forward of center section (Trainnut01@aol.com)
2. 04:02 AM - Re: 701 cowl tank addition? (kmccune)
3. 05:51 AM - Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? (river1)
4. 06:52 AM - Re: New to me. (R.D.(Ron) Leclerc)
5. 07:46 AM - Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 ) (txpilot)
6. 07:55 AM - Re: Zodiac XL vs. HDS (LarryMcFarland)
7. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Electronics (Juan Vega)
8. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 ) (John Marzulli)
9. 08:50 AM - Re: New to me. (ZodieRocket)
10. 08:51 AM - Re: 701 and E-LSA and S-LSA and maintenance (John Marzulli)
11. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? (ZodieRocket)
12. 09:57 AM - Messages in foreign languges (robert stone)
13. 10:05 AM - Re: Messages in foreign languges (Craig Payne)
14. 10:05 AM - Re: 601 XL project for sale (Dan Forney)
15. 10:46 AM - Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 ) (John Marzulli)
16. 10:52 AM - Re: 601XL Quick-build kit lead times? (hansriet)
17. 12:00 PM - Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? (Dr. Andrew Elliott)
18. 12:03 PM - Re: Engine Comparison ()
19. 01:01 PM - Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? (Gig Giacona)
20. 01:19 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Phil Maxson)
21. 02:20 PM - Re: Battery cable size (LarryMcFarland)
22. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Electronics (Southern Reflections)
23. 02:33 PM - Re: chat 8pm est tonight http://chat.iahu.ca (Rob St Denis)
24. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? (Juan Vega)
25. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: 601XL project for sale (Dan Forney)
26. 03:24 PM - Re: 601XL Quick-build kit lead times? (PatrickW)
27. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: chat 8pm est tonight http://chat.iahu.ca (n801bh@netzero.com)
28. 03:44 PM - Wiring diagrams (Bill Naumuk)
29. 03:52 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Bryan Martin)
30. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: chat 8pm est tonight http://chat.iahu.ca (Rob St Denis)
31. 04:16 PM - Re: Wiring diagrams (Woody sulloway)
32. 04:34 PM - Re: Wiring diagrams (Bill Naumuk)
33. 05:00 PM - Re: Wiring diagrams (Gig Giacona)
34. 05:42 PM - Re: New to me. (LRM)
35. 05:51 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Southern Reflections)
36. 05:57 PM - Re: Wiring diagrams (Ron Lendon)
37. 06:07 PM - Re: Wiring diagrams (Woody sulloway)
38. 06:18 PM - Re: New to me. (Southern Reflections)
39. 06:50 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Bryan Martin)
40. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: Wiring diagrams (Bill Naumuk)
41. 07:32 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Southern Reflections)
42. 07:38 PM - Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? (Terry Phillips)
43. 07:43 PM - Re: Battery cable size (Randy L. Thwing)
44. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: 601XL project for sale (Darrell Haas)
45. 08:52 PM - Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? (ProWash)
46. 09:17 PM - stol ch701 wing profile (ashralf)
47. 09:39 PM - Re: stol ch701 wing profile (Ashcraft, Keith -AES)
48. 10:49 PM - Re: stol ch701 wing profile (xl)
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna location forward of center section |
Dred
The C-Channel sounds like a wonderful idea. Do you have any pictures of that
installation?
Thanks
Carroll
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 701 cowl tank addition? |
Thanks for the replies, I think you impressed me with the gas in my lap comment.
Maybe I'll hold off on that one. Its good to hear about the support from Zenith.
I have not heard a single bad thing about them, except from a competitor
[Wink]
It will be awhile yet as I have to clear out my honey do list a bit before I can
start. But I hope to get going this fall. I ordered the scratch building video
from Homebuilt Help, and I think I'm going to scratch build, it just seems
more fum, if a bit longer.
--------
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? |
Randy ; I think that if you are going to consider a 2 cicle engine you might as
well make it light, the original empty weight with 582 was 460lb. I look at the
build (haven't started yet) with pretty much the same thoughts .Look at my
previous post , it looks like wen it comes to 2 cicle engines there's not too
many people interested, or in building it light . I talked with Seb Heintz and
said that I could buy the current version plans and he will supply a separate
sheet with the changes needed to achieve a lower weight.
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G'Day Larry
Good choice for an engine... I assume that it will have the redrive. I would get
the all aluminum case that Steve has instead of the alum. mag. standard Type
1 case... its more robust and holds torque better. Although its about 10-12
heavier it is you don't have to worry about cracking the case behind #3 cylinder
like the standard case... when you increase the stroke to 82mm from stock.
Best bet next to a Type 4 case.
R.D.(Ron) Leclerc
CH701 Plans(Scrap) Builder #7-6699
Porsche Power Belted Redrive
Winnipeg, MB Canada
infow@mts.net
9/24/2007 8:49:41 AM
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:-[ I decided to go VW on my new 701. I ordered and got the Great
:-[ Plains Type 1 engine assembly manual. In it I saw something I
:-[ never heard of before. It said that if you wanted to paint your
:-[ engine cylinders to mix enamel and gasoline 50/50. Has anyone out
:-[ there done that, and if so, what were the results and did it hold
:-[ up?
:-[
:-[ Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
:-[ http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List _-
:-[ ===========================================================
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| Subject: | Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 |
)
John,
I had similar problems when I built my rear fuselage. Here's what I suggest as
a solution:
Talk to Roger at ZAC and order new 'L' brackets with one flange at 20mm (normal)
and the other flange at 30mm. Use these extended flange 'L' brackets on the
side skins. Remove your current side 'L' brackets, clamp the small flange to
the top and bottom 'L' bracket flanges, and drill through your existing side
skin holes into the new "long" flange. Yes, it will be slightly off vertical
if your bottom and top 'L' brackets are not plumb, but it seems from your picture
that it won't be too far off. It will guarantee the 'L' bracket flanges will
be flush with each other with no gap.
BTW - on your website, you mentioned placing diagonal 'L' brackets on your skin
to reduce oil canning noise. I did the same on mine. I'm not flying yet, so
I don't know if it really helps. However, you'll notice ZAC has these 'L' brackets
on their aircraft model. Guess it can't be a bad idea.
Best Regards,
Dan Ginty
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL vs. HDS |
Hi Shane,
I scratch built a HDS and have flown it 105 hours. There are
differences in speed, handling and carrying capacity. The XL with a
Corvair should be faster by 5 - 10 mph than a HDS. The storage capacity
of the HDS wing is very generous and the tapered 23-foot span cuts rough
air better than a wide one like the XL. The strength of the HDS wing is
significantly tougher, has a thicker section, conversely more drag.
Once, I felt I'd want to have an XL because of the advantage of a
thinner wing, but since, find the storage, fuel capacity and handling of
the HDS more to my liking.
I especially do not like the heavy main gear as designed for the XL.
The HDS gear is much lighter, more than a bit frustrating to build, but
a better gear in my opinion.
(opinion value$.02) I've only been in the demonstrator XL once and the
found a lower sink rate on landing. Flaps are an advantage for the wide
wings, not for the HDS.
Another important question, would Zenith continue support for the HDS
down the road if you're a kit builder and later ding a wing. No problem
if you are a scratch builder.
I think you'll find as many people taken by the XL and reluctant to fly
a 23-foot taper wing as well. It's the latest most imitated LSA
aircraft out there.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Shane Norwood wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm in a bit of a dilemma, so maybe you guys with some experience can
> offer your input. I'm just getting started with my Zodiac project
> (rudder workshop in November.) Due to limited hanger space, I'm really
> interested in going with the HDS to save 4 feet of wingspan. I'm
> planning on using the Corvair conversion, and I'm not concerned about
> LSA rules, because I will be not operating my plane under LSA.
>
> So I guess what I'm trying to find out is if there are any HDS
> builders who have flown both the HDS and the XL who can offer a
> practical pro/con assessment of each model. And is there anyone who
> built an HDS who wished they had built a XL, or vice-versa?
>
> Thanks,
> Shane
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and you are building an airplane, scary dude.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Sep 23, 2007 11:20 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>
>
>I know that Dude.. portugese,german,french,Itallian, spanish it's all
>greek to me. mabye it's all portugese to me now ! who cares
>----- Original Message ----- Joe
>From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:57 PM
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>
>
>>
>> they dont speak spanish in Brazil, its portugese dude.
>>
>> Juan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>Sent: Sep 23, 2007 10:06 AM
>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>>
>>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>>Thanks Craig, thats the one, only trouble is it's in spanish and all
>>>spanish
>>>is greek to me.. I tried to click it to english ,but it would 't
>>>work.Thank's again. I've put it on my favorites.I've Got to have a set of
>>>those wing tips there suppose to slow landing even more ,plus lights in
>>>the
>>>tips and they look hot. Joe N101HD 601 XL P.S> wing roots look
>>>better too.
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:56 PM
>>>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>>
>>>
>>>> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>>>>
>>>>> The one that I'am talking abouthad a custom canopy,up turned wing
>>>>> tips,and
>>>> a small window behind the seat.
>>>>
>>>> I think you are referring to Roberto Brito's plane in Brazil:
>>>> http://www.airfox.com.br
>>>>
>>>> -- Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 |
)
Thanks for the advice!
On 9/24/07, txpilot <djg7@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> I had similar problems when I built my rear fuselage. Here's what I
> suggest as a solution:
>
> Talk to Roger at ZAC and order new 'L' brackets with one flange at 20mm
> (normal) and the other flange at 30mm. Use these extended flange 'L'
> brackets on the side skins. Remove your current side 'L' brackets, clamp
> the small flange to the top and bottom 'L' bracket flanges, and drill
> through your existing side skin holes into the new "long" flange. Yes, it
> will be slightly off vertical if your bottom and top 'L' brackets are not
> plumb, but it seems from your picture that it won't be too far off. It will
> guarantee the 'L' bracket flanges will be flush with each other with no gap.
>
> BTW - on your website, you mentioned placing diagonal 'L' brackets on your
> skin to reduce oil canning noise. I did the same on mine. I'm not flying
> yet, so I don't know if it really helps. However, you'll notice ZAC has
> these 'L' brackets on their aircraft model. Guess it can't be a bad idea.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dan Ginty
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136095#136095
>
>
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
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Larry, this is going to be your 3rd engine installation, I am sorry to
hear that the Hog didn=92t work out for you. If it has any weight, I
have
flown behind VW 701=92s and I would recommend a Gro conversion with a
Raven redrive. I have found this to be a far better performer. However
this is only my opinion and you do enjoy a challenge.
Check out Rick Roberts website for installation in a 701 and look into
HYPERLINK "http://www.nessaaircraft.net/"www.nessaaircraft.net for great
proven information on upping the performance of the geo to make your 701
a true performer.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LRM
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:45 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: New to me.
I decided to go VW on my new 701. I ordered and got the Great Plains
Type 1 engine assembly manual. In it I saw something I never heard of
before. It said that if you wanted to paint your engine cylinders to mix
enamel and gasoline 50/50. Has anyone out there done that, and if so,
what were the results and did it hold up?
Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?Zenith-List
"http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com
9/24/2007 11:27 AM
9/24/2007 11:27 AM
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| Subject: | Re: 701 and E-LSA and S-LSA and maintenance |
> You will not be able to rent out an E-AB to give flight instruction but
> you, the owner, can receive flight instruction in it after the phase I
> testing is complete.
>
Actually if it is registered as EAB the plane can be rented for the purpose
of transition training. To do this you must register for the exemption with
the EAA.
The exemption can not be used for primary training.
Lots of info on the EAA's website ( you must be a member to access ) :
http://members.eaa.org/home/govt/exemptions/training_faq.asp
Good luck!
-John
On 9/22/07, Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> After Jan 2008 you can't register your CH701 as an E-LSA or an S-LSA,
> you will have to register as an Experimental-Amateur built. However, it
> will still meet the limitations of the LSA rule and a sport pilot can fly
> it. Any airplane, no matter what type of airworthiness certificate it has,
> Standard, Primary, E-LSA, S-LSA or E-AB, can be flown under the sport pilot
> rule as long as it meets the limitations of the LSA rules and has continued
> to do so since its initial registration.
> If you register it as an E-AB you can do any and all maintenance on the
> plane. If you sell the airplane, the new owner will also be able to do his
> own maintenance. Anyone can do maintenance on an E-AB.
>
> If you are the primary builder and apply for and receive the repairman
> certificate for that airplane, you can sign off the annual condition
> inspection. If you sell it, the new owner will not be able to sign off the
> annual unless he is an A&P, only the original builder can get the repairman
> certificate for an E-AB and it can't be transferred.
>
> You will not be able to rent out an E-AB to give flight instruction but
> you, the owner, can receive flight instruction in it after the phase I
> testing is complete.
>
> If you register it as an E-LSA before the Jan 31, 2008 deadline, you will
> be able to do all of your maintenance but you will have to take a 16 hour
> maintenance course to qualify to sign off the annual inspection on that
> plane. The 16 hour course also qualifies you to sign off the annual on any
> other S-LSA or E-LSA aircraft that you own. The 16 hour course does not
> qualify you to sign off the annual on any aircraft with a Standard, Primary
> or E-AB airworthiness certificate even if the plane can be flown under the
> Sport Pilot rules.
>
> On Sep 22, 2007, at 2:05 PM, kmccune wrote:
>
>
> So after Jan 2008 I can no longer register a 701 as an E-LSA?
> But I can convert it?
>
> Additionally do I then have to take additional instruction to do the anual
> inspection and annual maintenance even if its an E-LSA?
>
> Its all so confusing :?
>
> --------
> Kevin
>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL,
> RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
> do not archive.
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
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| Subject: | Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? |
I have a better question, where can you find a snowmobile in Arkansas?
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
--------
R Craig
North Central Arkansas
701 SP Just started.
Do Not Archive
9/24/2007 11:27 AM
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| Subject: | Messages in foreign languges |
Members,
Over time I have seen messages posted on this forum that were in a
language other than English. I have also seen some messages where
members were expressing some measure of dismay for not being able to
understand a post concerning something they might be interested in. I
have never used this web site for translating a foreign language into
english so I have no idea if it works or how well it works. Anyway for
what it's worth, here it is.
http://www.freetranslations.com
Tracy Stone
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| Subject: | Messages in foreign languges |
The Google one works as good as any of them. And it will translate a web
site:
http://www.google.com/language_tools
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL project for sale |
Abandoning 601XL project.
I have drawings, CD, and slightly started dual-stick fuselage kit for sale.
Nearly $6000 in, willing to sell for $4000 OBO.
Please respond directly if interested and want more detail.
Dan
dforney@bctonline.com
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| Subject: | Re: Problems with top pre-drilled fuselage skin ( CH-701 |
)
First, I want to thank everyone who provided a response, on and off list.
I talked to Roger at Zenith today and we came up with two possible
solutions.
The first is to see if the angles can be bent to match. Since there are so
many rivets in the baggage back, structural integrity should not be an
issue.
If I can't get that to work, then Roger offered to send out a new skin with
the offending rivet line not drilled.
Due to the fact that I have the fuselage squared up with the longerons
matching I want to avoid using a new skin even if the holes theoretically
match simply because they may not.
Once again thanks for all the help!
-John in Seattle
On 9/23/07, John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm having a bit of a problem. The ("L") angle that attaches to the top of
> the baggage back is off by exactly 10mm. This seems strange since every
> other junction is dead on, and the longeron splices are exactly even between
> the sides and the top. The flanges for the bulkheads were dead on.
>
> So this leads me to believe it is a CNC error, but it's a little hard to
> get up there to measure and prove it.
>
> Anyway, this has produced a gap too big to shim and I'm not sure what to
> do about it. One thought I had was to move the angle forward, but then the
> existing holes would be directly over the baggage back and the vertical
> ("L") angles.
>
> My other idea was to ignore the gap basically since when I test fit the
> baggage back only the area near the gap didn't site flush. So I would add
> some extra rivets towards the inside of the panel to make up for it, and
> maybe add two gussets. My guess is that two rivets on each side would have
> to be skipped.
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> I put pictures up on my blog: http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> John Marzulli
> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
> "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
> harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
> -Airplane The Movie
--
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
-Airplane The Movie
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Quick-build kit lead times? |
I was just contacted by Zenith that my wings kit is on it's way.
I can finally get back to building and I better start saving for the fuselage right
away.
Happy Riveting,
Hans
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| Subject: | Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? |
Gang:
I am planning on putting fiberglass intersection fairings where the wing
and horizontal stabilizer attach to the airframe of my 601XL/TD. (Not
planning light sport!) I was hoping that someone has already done molds
for such, or even that one or the other or both might be available
commercially. (Yes, I know I can make them up moldless, but if
someone's already done the work...)
Anyone have such molds, or a contact for same?
Thanks,
Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
N601GE (reserved)
601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
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| Subject: | Engine Comparison |
I chose the 601XL so I could use the 0-235. I know the prototype 601xl is still
flying with the lyc engine and Chris Heintz seems pretty happy with it. That
is also the engine used in the CH2000. There is a weight penalty, total weight
with the lyc 0-235 is typically over 850' empty. I'm trying to improve on that
figure by using lightweight everything, electronic panel, fixed flaps, etc..
At least you won't have to worry about being tail heavy ; - )
Craig S.
N601XS, 601xl lyc 0-235
I would like to see some comments on using an O235 Lycoming.
I recently bought an engine, and am wondering why no one seems to be talking
about these engines.
They seem to be reasonable to buy, have a good TBO, and plenty of power.
The only thing that is negative is the weight.
Bill
601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? |
If you hear of any let the list know. I do have a question for you though. Why
do you think it matters to light sport status of your aircraft? I only ask because
there has been a significant amount of incorrect LSA info floating around
here the last few weeks.
a.s.elliott(at)cox.net wrote:
> Gang:
>
> I am planning on putting fiberglass intersection fairings where the wing and
horizontal stabilizer attach to the airframe of my 601XL/TD. (Not planning
light sport!) I was hoping that someone has already done molds for such, or
even that one or the other or both might be available commercially. (Yes, I
know I can make them up moldless, but if someone's already done the work...)
>
> Anyone have such molds, or a contact for same?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
> N601GE (reserved)
> 601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
>
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136179#136179
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| Subject: | Battery cable size |
I think #4 Tefzel wire is a better choice than welding cable. Tefzel insul
ation has been proven in aircraft over and over, and with welding cable, yo
ur gambling on the insulation. Many builders use it, but why take the chan
ce?Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:37:45 -0500> From: zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> To:
zenith-list@matronics.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Battery cable size> >
Mike,> > I used #4 welding cable from the local welding supply. Tough insul
ation, flexible, etc.> They also stock nice copper end terminals> > Regards
,> Zed/701/912/etc/90+%/blue scotchbrite pads
_________________________________________________________________
Can you find the hidden words?- Take a break and play Seekadoo!
http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_wlmailtextlink
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
Hi Phil,
You'd find #4 Tefzel is fairly rigid in bending and the same for fitting
connectors. Welding cable is flexible and durable to a fault and the
wire is fine enough that connectors can
be soldered with excellent results. There is no risk taken in using
Welding Cable for battery to starter contactor and battery connections
and it's much easier to lay up tight in corners and bends than Tefzel.
Welding cable insulation is extremely durable as it get stepped on,
driven over and will take an enormous amount of abuse. That said, I'd
not use anything but Tefzel for all light gage wiring jobs.
I'm sure that welding cable costs less and can be had at Farm and Fleet
Stores.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Phil Maxson wrote:
> I think #4 Tefzel wire is a better choice than welding cable. Tefzel
> insulation has been proven in aircraft over and over, and with welding
> cable, your gambling on the insulation. Many builders use it, but why
> take the chance?
>
> Phil Maxson
> 601XL/Corvair
> Northwest New Jersey
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What's scarey is , some one in a airplane that doesn't have enough smarts to
keep putting half smart ass remarks on this site JuanVega ..says it all any
way.. see ya Wan Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>
> and you are building an airplane, scary dude.
>
> Juan
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>Sent: Sep 23, 2007 11:20 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>
>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>
>>I know that Dude.. portugese,german,french,Itallian, spanish it's all
>>greek to me. mabye it's all portugese to me now ! who cares
>>----- Original Message ----- Joe
>>From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:57 PM
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>
>>
>>>
>>> they dont speak spanish in Brazil, its portugese dude.
>>>
>>> Juan
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Southern Reflections <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>Sent: Sep 23, 2007 10:06 AM
>>>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>>>
>>>><purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks Craig, thats the one, only trouble is it's in spanish and all
>>>>spanish
>>>>is greek to me.. I tried to click it to english ,but it would 't
>>>>work.Thank's again. I've put it on my favorites.I've Got to have a set
>>>>of
>>>>those wing tips there suppose to slow landing even more ,plus lights in
>>>>the
>>>>tips and they look hot. Joe N101HD 601 XL P.S> wing roots look
>>>>better too.
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
>>>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 11:56 PM
>>>>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Electronics
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The one that I'am talking abouthad a custom canopy,up turned wing
>>>>>> tips,and
>>>>> a small window behind the seat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are referring to Roberto Brito's plane in Brazil:
>>>>> http://www.airfox.com.br
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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See y'all there
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| Subject: | Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? |
there is a guy in czech area that put nice fairings on an XL. I asked roger and
Sebastian, but nobody could ident the pilot. Check in the tail dragger section,
the red XL nice fairings by mistery pilot.
Who could it be..........
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>Sent: Sep 24, 2007 4:00 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings?
>
>
>If you hear of any let the list know. I do have a question for you though. Why
do you think it matters to light sport status of your aircraft? I only ask because
there has been a significant amount of incorrect LSA info floating around
here the last few weeks.
>
>
>a.s.elliott(at)cox.net wrote:
>> Gang:
>>
>> I am planning on putting fiberglass intersection fairings where the wing and
horizontal stabilizer attach to the airframe of my 601XL/TD. (Not planning
light sport!) I was hoping that someone has already done molds for such, or
even that one or the other or both might be available commercially. (Yes,
I know I can make them up moldless, but if someone's already done the work...)
>>
>> Anyone have such molds, or a contact for same?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>> N601GE (reserved)
>> 601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
>>
>
>
>--------
>W.R. "Gig" Giacona
>601XL Under Construction
>See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136179#136179
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL project for sale |
Sorry, I should have added that this is a Zenith factory standard fuselage
kit with dual stick option. The project is located in the Portland, OR.
area.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Quick-build kit lead times? |
hansriet wrote:
> I was just contacted by Zenith that my wings kit is on it's way.
That was fast!
Maybe I ought to put in a plug for some engine parts I've been waiting on...
:D
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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How about that link again ??
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Rob St Denis" <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
See y'all there
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All-
Is there any company out there that can provide a customized
schematic for your project? Not actually build the panel, but do all the
calculations? The client would provide exactly what major components are
involved.
For example, the client wants a Dynon XXX 3.0, King XX 1.5 Com,
Narco X 1.0 transponder along with position and landing/taxi lights in a
dual battery redundant system. The company would draw up the schematic
and make recommendations for the bus, switch, and auxilliary hardware.
If one doesn't exist, it'd be a great idea for a small business that
required zero start-up capital!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
The biggest advantage of Tefzel is if you have a short and the wire
burns up, the Tefzel won't emit toxic vapors like welding cable will. I
used Tefzel everywhere inside the cabin. On the other hand, your battery
will most likely be outside the cabin where toxic fumes are not going to
be an issue. In that case the flexibility of welding cable can be useful.
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
> Hi Phil,
> You'd find #4 Tefzel is fairly rigid in bending and the same for fitting
> connectors. Welding cable is flexible and durable to a fault and the
> wire is fine enough that connectors can
> be soldered with excellent results. There is no risk taken in using
> Welding Cable for battery to starter contactor and battery connections
> and it's much easier to lay up tight in corners and bends than Tefzel.
> Welding cable insulation is extremely durable as it get stepped on,
> driven over and will take an enormous amount of abuse. That said, I'd
> not use anything but Tefzel for all light gage wiring jobs. I'm sure
> that welding cable costs less and can be had at Farm and Fleet Stores.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Phil Maxson wrote:
>> I think #4 Tefzel wire is a better choice than welding cable. Tefzel
>> insulation has been proven in aircraft over and over, and with welding
>> cable, your gambling on the insulation. Many builders use it, but why
>> take the chance?
>>
>> Phil Maxson
>> 601XL/Corvair
>> Northwest New Jersey
>
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
Do Not Archive
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http://chat.iahu.ca
On 9/24/07, n801bh@netzero.com <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> How about that link again ??
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> -- "Rob St Denis" <rob@iahu.ca> wrote:
> See y'all there
>
> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
Bill there is a guy who is active in the Experimental Avionics group.
here is the link http://www.ptpengineering.com/. give it a try.
Regards
Woody
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
All-
Is there any company out there that can provide a customized
schematic for your project? Not actually build the panel, but do all the
calculations? The client would provide exactly what major components are
involved.
For example, the client wants a Dynon XXX 3.0, King XX 1.5 Com,
Narco X 1.0 transponder along with position and landing/taxi lights in a
dual battery redundant system. The company would draw up the schematic
and make recommendations for the bus, switch, and auxilliary hardware.
If one doesn't exist, it'd be a great idea for a small business
that required zero start-up capital!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
Woody-
No joy on the link.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Woody sulloway
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
Bill there is a guy who is active in the Experimental Avionics group.
here is the link http://www.ptpengineering.com/. give it a try.
Regards
Woody
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
All-
Is there any company out there that can provide a customized
schematic for your project? Not actually build the panel, but do all the
calculations? The client would provide exactly what major components are
involved.
For example, the client wants a Dynon XXX 3.0, King XX 1.5 Com,
Narco X 1.0 transponder along with position and landing/taxi lights in a
dual battery redundant system. The company would draw up the schematic
and make recommendations for the bus, switch, and auxilliary hardware.
If one doesn't exist, it'd be a great idea for a small business
that required zero start-up capital!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
If you don't yet have the book this guy sells get it.
http://www.aeroelectric.com/
If he doesn't have an exact match in it I'll bet he has one that is pretty close.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
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Nope, this is for my new 701, totally different plane. Lengthened the
wings and going with VGs on this one. The Hawg is still up and running,
just waiting on a prop adjustment from Culver. I couldn't get the
static rpm I needed. Hopefully real soon. The Hawg is working out,
just takes a lot of patience. Building and designing is where the fun
is anyway, Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: New to me.
Larry, this is going to be your 3rd engine installation, I am sorry to
hear that the Hog didn=92t work out for you. If it has any weight, I
have flown behind VW 701=92s and I would recommend a Gro conversion with
a Raven redrive. I have found this to be a far better performer. However
this is only my opinion and you do enjoy a challenge.
Check out Rick Roberts website for installation in a 701 and look into
www.nessaaircraft.net for great proven information on upping the
performance of the geo to make your 701 a true performer.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LRM
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:45 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: New to me.
I decided to go VW on my new 701. I ordered and got the Great Plains
Type 1 engine assembly manual. In it I saw something I never heard of
before. It said that if you wanted to paint your engine cylinders to mix
enamel and gasoline 50/50. Has anyone out there done that, and if so,
what were the results and did it hold up?
Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
- The Zenith-List Email Forum - -->
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List - NEW
MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com
9/24/2007 11:27 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
Bryan, my batery is in the cabin ,on the fire wall, passenger side. on the
floor the leads are about 6" long and they go back through the fire wall
into the engine compartment to terminals that go to eng . and to smaller
wires that go back to the dash. It is a dry cell batt. and that I felt it
would be safe. what do you think ?
----- Original Message ----- Joe N101HD 601XL
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery cable size
>
> The biggest advantage of Tefzel is if you have a short and the wire burns
> up, the Tefzel won't emit toxic vapors like welding cable will. I used
> Tefzel everywhere inside the cabin. On the other hand, your battery will
> most likely be outside the cabin where toxic fumes are not going to be an
> issue. In that case the flexibility of welding cable can be useful.
>
> LarryMcFarland wrote:
>>
>> Hi Phil,
>> You'd find #4 Tefzel is fairly rigid in bending and the same for fitting
>> connectors. Welding cable is flexible and durable to a fault and the
>> wire is fine enough that connectors can
>> be soldered with excellent results. There is no risk taken in using
>> Welding Cable for battery to starter contactor and battery connections
>> and it's much easier to lay up tight in corners and bends than Tefzel.
>> Welding cable insulation is extremely durable as it get stepped on,
>> driven over and will take an enormous amount of abuse. That said, I'd
>> not use anything but Tefzel for all light gage wiring jobs. I'm sure that
>> welding cable costs less and can be had at Farm and Fleet Stores.
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>
>> Phil Maxson wrote:
>>> I think #4 Tefzel wire is a better choice than welding cable. Tefzel
>>> insulation has been proven in aircraft over and over, and with welding
>>> cable, your gambling on the insulation. Many builders use it, but why
>>> take the chance?
>>>
>>> Phil Maxson
>>> 601XL/Corvair
>>> Northwest New Jersey
>>
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> Zenith 601XL N61BM
> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
Ditto to what Gig said. The AeroElectric Connection is the guide I use. He has
what you are looking for in the back of the book.
--------
Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
Bill,
I thought I had seen him in the group within the last week or too.
Sorry!
You might try a message to ExperimentalAvionics@yahoogroups.com
<ExperimentalAvionics@yahoogroups.com> you will have to go to the group
at Yahoo.com and join up first. Good group, gotten some good tips there.
Regards
Woody
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
Woody-
No joy on the link.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: Woody sulloway
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
Bill there is a guy who is active in the Experimental Avionics
group. here is the link http://www.ptpengineering.com/. give it a try.
Regards
Woody
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Naumuk
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Wiring diagrams
All-
Is there any company out there that can provide a customized
schematic for your project? Not actually build the panel, but do all the
calculations? The client would provide exactly what major components are
involved.
For example, the client wants a Dynon XXX 3.0, King XX 1.5
Com, Narco X 1.0 transponder along with position and landing/taxi lights
in a dual battery redundant system. The company would draw up the
schematic and make recommendations for the bus, switch, and auxilliary
hardware.
If one doesn't exist, it'd be a great idea for a small
business that required zero start-up capital!
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LARRY, WHAT KIND OF PROBLEMS DID YOU HAVE WITH THE HOG - AIR ENG? How
many hr. did you have on it?
----- Original Message ----- Joe N101HD 601XL
From: LRM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: New to me.
Nope, this is for my new 701, totally different plane. Lengthened the
wings and going with VGs on this one. The Hawg is still up and running,
just waiting on a prop adjustment from Culver. I couldn't get the
static rpm I needed. Hopefully real soon. The Hawg is working out,
just takes a lot of patience. Building and designing is where the fun
is anyway, Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: ZodieRocket
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: New to me.
Larry, this is going to be your 3rd engine installation, I am sorry
to hear that the Hog didn=92t work out for you. If it has any weight, I
have flown behind VW 701=92s and I would recommend a Gro conversion with
a Raven redrive. I have found this to be a far better performer. However
this is only my opinion and you do enjoy a challenge.
Check out Rick Roberts website for installation in a 701 and look
into www.nessaaircraft.net for great proven information on upping the
performance of the geo to make your 701 a true performer.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com/ www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
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I decided to go VW on my new 701. I ordered and got the Great
Plains Type 1 engine assembly manual. In it I saw something I never
heard of before. It said that if you wanted to paint your engine
cylinders to mix enamel and gasoline 50/50. Has anyone out there done
that, and if so, what were the results and did it hold up?
Larry, www.SkyHawg.com, N1345L
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
It depends on what type of insulation is used. Some of that stuff can
give off a dense cloud of noxious smoke. It can not only be hard to
breathe, it can be difficult to see through. Put the battery contactor
as close to the battery as possible and make sure the cable from the
battery to the contactor can't possibly short out to ground. That way
you can stop the current flow with the master switch and stop the smoke.
Make sure the rest of your wiring is protected by fuses or breakers that
have a lower current rating than the wire in the circuit.
Tefzel isn't the easiest stuff to work with, but how often do you have
to monkey with your battery cables?
Southern Reflections wrote:
> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>
> Bryan, my batery is in the cabin ,on the fire wall, passenger side. on
> the floor the leads are about 6" long and they go back through the fire
> wall into the engine compartment to terminals that go to eng . and to
> smaller wires that go back to the dash. It is a dry cell batt. and that
> I felt it would be safe. what do you think ?
--
Bryan Martin
Zenith 601XL N61BM
Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
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| Subject: | Re: Wiring diagrams |
I have it.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:58 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wiring diagrams
> <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> If you don't yet have the book this guy sells get it.
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/
>
> If he doesn't have an exact match in it I'll bet he has one that is pretty
> close.
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=136221#136221
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
Bryan, Iam going to check what type of wire was used,the person that put it
in the plane is along time builder Rv 6, Z 701, etc. and well though in the
air craft comm. around here. The wire he used is white and rather stiff I've
never looked at the name or no. on the wire, but I will tomorrow .The master
switch is a great idea, going to put it on the hot side between the pole, on
pilot side by my knee on the center console , by the way do have any exp.
about how good a Icom IC 200 raido is ? Thanks Joe N101HD 601XL
(about to fly again)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Martin" <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery cable size
>
> It depends on what type of insulation is used. Some of that stuff can give
> off a dense cloud of noxious smoke. It can not only be hard to breathe, it
> can be difficult to see through. Put the battery contactor as close to the
> battery as possible and make sure the cable from the battery to the
> contactor can't possibly short out to ground. That way you can stop the
> current flow with the master switch and stop the smoke. Make sure the rest
> of your wiring is protected by fuses or breakers that have a lower current
> rating than the wire in the circuit.
>
> Tefzel isn't the easiest stuff to work with, but how often do you have to
> monkey with your battery cables?
>
> Southern Reflections wrote:
>> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Bryan, my batery is in the cabin ,on the fire wall, passenger side. on
>> the floor the leads are about 6" long and they go back through the fire
>> wall into the engine compartment to terminals that go to eng . and to
>> smaller wires that go back to the dash. It is a dry cell batt. and that
>> I felt it would be safe. what do you think ?
>
> --
> Bryan Martin
> Zenith 601XL N61BM
> Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing and horiz stab intersection fairings? |
Andy
I am very much interested in installing wing root fairings on my XL, but
I'd rather buy them than make them. You are probably aware of the
installation that Klaus Truemper did on his HDS. Klaus generously spent a
morning with me last May looking and taking photos of his beautiful plane. See:
http://www.utdallas.edu/~klaus/Airplane/airplane.html
if you haven't already looked at his website. The performance improvements
for Klaus plane were very significant. If the results on an XL are anything
close, they would really be worth installing. I've posted my photos of
Klaus' plane on Picasa. There are several detail shots of his fairings. See:
http://picasaweb.google.com/ttp444/Klaus601HDS
There is a gentleman, Bob Snedaker, in Goodyear, AZ, who makes wing root
fairings for RVs. I talked with him on the phone after I visited with
Klaus. He sounded interested in expanding his product line to include the
XL, but he needed an aircraft so that he could make the molds. I attempted
to find a 601 builder in his neighborhood who would be willing to let their
plane be used to make the molds, but I was unsuccessful. Perhaps if you
would call him, he might make you a deal if you volunteer to be his Guinea
pig. His web site is:
http://www.fairings-etc.com/wing%20root%20fairings.htm
He has a phone number on his site. His price for a pair of RV fairings is a
pretty reasonable $430. I hope you'll contact him and let the group know if
he will be selling fairings for XLs. I'd definitely be willing to buy a pair.
Also, Eddie Seve, an XL builder in Australia is building wing root
fairings. His Kitlog Pro site is:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=eddieseve&project=89&category=0&log=24760&row=40
Good luck!
Terry
At 11:55 AM 9/24/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>Gang:
>
>I am planning on putting fiberglass intersection fairings where the wing
>and horizontal stabilizer attach to the airframe of my 601XL/TD. (Not
>planning light sport!) I was hoping that someone has already done molds
>for such, or even that one or the other or both might be available
>commercially. (Yes, I know I can make them up moldless, but if someone's
>already done the work...)
>
>Anyone have such molds, or a contact for same?
>
>Thanks,
>Andy Elliott, Mesa, AZ
>N601GE (reserved)
>601XL/TD/QB, Corvair, building...
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Rudder done--finally; working on the stab
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: Battery cable size |
Hello Larry:
I have been warned by people supposedly in the know against soldering
aircraft connections. Something about that if you solder a multi-strand
wire, the solder binds together the mutiple strands and causes it to act
like a large, single strand wire, when subject to vibration, you loose the
benefit of muti-strand wire flexing and if it breaks it breaks all at once.
Any opinion regarding this?
Regards,
Randy, Las Vegas do not archive
> Welding cable is flexible and durable to a fault and the wire is fine
> enough that connectors can
> be soldered with excellent results.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL project for sale |
I would be curious to find out more since I live near Portland, Oregon
Darrell Haas
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Forney
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL project for sale
Sorry, I should have added that this is a Zenith factory standard
fuselage kit with dual stick option. The project is located in the
Portland, OR. area.
Dan
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| Subject: | Re: Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation? |
Hello Mark,
The only snowmobile I know of in Arkansas is out behind my neighbors house. It
will be years before he finds out the engine is missing.
--------
R Craig
North Central Arkansas
701 SP Just started.
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| Subject: | stol ch701 wing profile |
i would like to ask for stol ch701 wing profile
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| Subject: | stol ch701 wing profile |
The airfoil is a NACA 6515 mod.
http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html
Search for Heintz. I am figuring that most of these are correct.
Keith
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Sent: Mon 9/24/2007 10:16 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: stol ch701 wing profile
i would like to ask for stol ch701 wing profile
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| Subject: | stol ch701 wing profile |
Wow, that's a neat resource!
The CH601XL has the same wing root airfoil as a
Lockheed 1049 Constellation and a King Air.
Next time one of those passes me I'll feel smarter.
A King Air passed about 500 feet directly over me
Sunday over Seattle - same wing root profile, neat.
Joe E @ BFI
CH601XL, 491 hours
Jabiru 3300, Sensenich wood prop 49x64
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Ashcraft, Keith -AES wrote:
> The airfoil is a NACA 6515 mod.
> http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/m-selig/ads/aircraft.html
> Search for Heintz. I am figuring that most of these are correct.
> do not archive
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