---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/29/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:36 AM - Matco`s Wheel Bearings (Clive Richards) 2. 05:11 AM - Re: will definitely need those back seats now (kmccune) 3. 06:38 AM - Re: Re: avex rivet question clarification (Jeyoung65@aol.com) 4. 07:38 AM - Re: will definitely need those back seats now (steveadams) 5. 07:49 AM - Great Flight over Killeen, TX (Clyde Barcus) 6. 07:49 AM - Re: will definitely need those back seats now (AB_Summit) 7. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: avex rivet question clarification (Gary Boothe) 8. 08:34 AM - Re: Engine Comparison (Craig Payne) 9. 03:32 PM - Will there be a Zenith kit version of the Patriot? (zedvair) 10. 04:13 PM - Re: Engine Comparison (Randy Stout) 11. 04:35 PM - Re: Engine Comparison (Craig Payne) 12. 04:35 PM - 701 in New England? (David Brooks) 13. 04:58 PM - Re: posting to threads (Gig Giacona) 14. 06:06 PM - Re: 701 in New England? (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:41 AM PST US From: "Clive Richards" Subject: Zenith-List: Matco`s Wheel Bearings As per previous report in archives Rays Matco Chinese wheel bearings have also failed 1998/1999 Kit suggest if you have Matco wheels pre 2000 you check the wheels run smoothly & if not fit a reputable make of bearing. G CBDG CH601 HD Continental 0-200 170 Hrs ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:32 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: will definitely need those back seats now From: "kmccune" Congratulations! Kevin -------- Kevin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137104#137104 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:35 AM PST US From: Jeyoung65@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: avex rivet question clarification Gary, Using the 1/8 rivet was just to get you to look as one. As you are building an 601HDS your center section should be the same as my Dwg. 6-V3 dated 08/04. Look at your two rivets in the outer ribs where the drawing call for A-5 rivets. Material thickness is: 6V5-1 (.025), "L" angle (.025), 6V4-1HD (.040), 6V4-5 (.125), 6V4-6HD (.125) Total= .340. We I installed these rivets I question the rivet so took a sample using these mat'l thickness to the EAA meeting and two difference members said it was not good. Jerry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:38 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: will definitely need those back seats now From: "steveadams" Congratulations. I have twin boys who are now 9 y/o who have seen a lot of this country from the back seats of my 640 (OK maybe they haven't seen that much, but it has taken them to a lot of nice places). You have a lot of great years to look forward to. Congratulation's. Steve Adams CH640 N621J Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137119#137119 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/boys_341.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:26 AM PST US From: "Clyde Barcus" Subject: Zenith-List: Great Flight over Killeen, TX Recently I saw Bob Stone's post about taking anyone for flight if they interested in flying in a 601XL if they pay for fuel. I travel in Texas a lot and most of my evenings are just plain boring so I jumped on the chance to go flying. It was a beautiful afternoon, winds close to zero, the only downside was the heat, it was very hot. Bob has a beautiful 601XL with a Jabiru and I was really impressed by the performance on such a hot day, especially when you consider both of us are around 200 lbs. His plane handles very well and when Bob trimmed it up there was none of the heavy wing effect I have read about. We flew for about an hour and in my opinion, the 601 is a great little plane and it certainly was an enjoyable afternoon for me. Bob is a very interesting fellow, he is 78 years old, flies an airplane, rides motorcycles and enjoys a post-flight conversation over a cold brew. I decided during our flight that I will do the same thing for others when my plane is in the air, it is a great way to meet people and make new friends. Thanks Bob! Clyde Barcus 601 XL, Continental Powered Wings, Tail & Engine Complete Working on Fuselage ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:42 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: will definitely need those back seats now From: "AB_Summit" Congratulations! I know how you feel, my wife and I have twins, a boy and a girl that turned two in June. We found out in the same way you did, my wife went in for her 20 week ultrasound and they told us we were having twins. My advice is to sleep lots now, cause when they are born you won't be getting much sleep:) Lots of luck, Randy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137120#137120 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:25 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: avex rivet question clarification Jerry, Point taken, however it looks as there are some differences in our plans. For me, 6-V3 is a wing drawing. But I have supplementals for the HDS which replace that A5 rivet with an AN3 bolt. On the center section, I also have a supplemental as I am building a tail dragger. All nose ribs have a notch for the spar cap and are not riveted at that location. However, you did shine light on the fact that where the gear support crosses the spar, there will definitely be a need for a longer rivet. 4 of these will be needed by me, so I will merely buy some 'x-tra longs.' Interesting that AC43.13 has no verbage concerning Avex rivets. Gary Boothe Cool, CA 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, Tail done, wings done, working on c-section _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeyoung65@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:37 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: avex rivet question clarification Gary, Using the 1/8 rivet was just to get you to look as one. As you are building an 601HDS your center section should be the same as my Dwg. 6-V3 dated 08/04. Look at your two rivets in the outer ribs where the drawing call for A-5 rivets. Material thickness is: 6V5-1 (.025), "L" angle (.025), 6V4-1HD (.040), 6V4-5 (.125), 6V4-6HD (.125) Total= .340. We I installed these rivets I question the rivet so took a sample using these mat'l thickness to the EAA meeting and two difference members said it was not good. Jerry _____ See what's new at Make AOL Your Homepage. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:46 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Engine Comparison > I put my Ellison on and everything changed. Randy, do you have any pictures or details on how you adapted the Ellison to connect to the Jabiru and airbox? -- Craig ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:21 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Will there be a Zenith kit version of the Patriot? From: "zedvair" I'm just starting to consider building. While I'd think I'd be happy with a 601xl, the new Patriot high wing, with it's better STOL characteristics and similar cross-country characteristics, intrigues me. Is anyone aware of plans by Zenith to offer a kit version of the Patriot? It seems like a good candidate for the corvair, since it was designed for the O-200. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137172#137172 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:02 PM PST US From: "Randy Stout" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Engine Comparison Gee, if you could have asked that question yesterday. I just had the cowl off for the last week to paint it and last night it finally dried enough I could put it on. Give me a few days and I'll try to get you a couple of pictures. Randy Stout San Antonio TX www.geocities.com/ n282rs n282rs at satx.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:32 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Engine Comparison > I put my Ellison on and everything changed. Randy, do you have any pictures or details on how you adapted the Ellison to connect to the Jabiru and airbox? -- Craig ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:41 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Engine Comparison > Give me a few days and I'll try to get you a couple of pictures. No rush, it will be a while before I can afford an Ellison. My first one went with the Corvair. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:35:41 PM PST US From: "David Brooks" Subject: Zenith-List: 701 in New England? I have been watching all the messages go by where very generous 601 and 701 owners have offered to show off their planes to prospective builders/buyers and I was wondering if there might be someone up in my neck of the woods who would be willing to do the same? I am very interested in the 701 and would love to get up close to one. Fuel and $100 burger are on me. I live in north-central New Hampshire and I can travel as far as Boston, all over New Hampshire and Vermont, even up-state New York if I have to. There is a distinct possibility of a layoff coming my way (a good thing, in my case) so my time may become very free after the first of the year. Thanks Dave Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:49 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: posting to threads From: "Gig Giacona" Not everyone uses the WWW version of the forum. In fact most don't. They majority use the older mail list system. They forum software then tries to place the messages both from the website and the mail list into proper threading. I'm actually surprised it works as well as it usually does. haven wrote: > Why are there 6 threads with the name "Building as a way for a non-pilot to get into aviation?". It is extremely hard to follow the thread with post all over the place. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137184#137184 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:06:48 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 701 in New England? Not perfect but Brian Unruh is building a beautiful 701 on Long Island: http://www.701builder.com/ Also the Frapper 701 map show some other builders in New England: http://www.frappr.com/zenith701. -- Craig ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.