---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/02/07: 36 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question (DaveG601XL) 2. 06:03 AM - Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape (Brett Hanley) 3. 07:31 AM - Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. (John M. Goodings) 4. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. (Dave Austin) 5. 08:12 AM - Re: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape (japhillipsga@aol.com) 6. 08:16 AM - Elevator bias spring (Dave Johnson) 7. 08:37 AM - Re: Elevator bias spring (ZodieRocket) 8. 09:07 AM - Re: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question (Tim Juhl) 9. 10:09 AM - Re: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question (Beckman, Rick) 10. 10:43 AM - Re: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question (DaveG601XL) 11. 12:45 PM - Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Edward Micallef) 12. 12:51 PM - Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (Craig Payne) 13. 01:15 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (Gig Giacona) 14. 01:16 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Gig Giacona) 15. 01:20 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Jeyoung65@aol.com) 16. 01:37 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (victor verdev) 17. 01:47 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (Craig Payne) 18. 01:52 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? () 19. 01:56 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (ken smith) 20. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (Craig Payne) 21. 02:12 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (John Bolding) 22. 02:21 PM - Re: Heavy Wing () 23. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Will there be a Zenith kit version of the Patriot? (Jim Fosse) 24. 02:27 PM - Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (Craig Payne) 25. 02:38 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (David Downey) 26. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. (Southern Reflections) 27. 03:37 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (MacDonald Doug) 28. 05:44 PM - 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? (PatrickW) 29. 06:18 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (sonar1@cox.net) 30. 06:21 PM - Hanger land lease (Bob) 31. 07:11 PM - Re: 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? (Jaybannist@cs.com) 32. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? (David Downey) 33. 07:37 PM - Re: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape (Dave Thompson) 34. 07:52 PM - Re: 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? (Ron Lendon) 35. 11:01 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Edward Micallef) 36. 11:05 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Edward Micallef) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:34 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question From: "DaveG601XL" I am working my 601XL wing installation to the fuselage. So far I have trimmed the wing skin back far enough to get the wing bolts in. What have you guys found to be the optimal gap for the kit provided seal? The drawings do not mention anything and I could not find anything in the archives. Thanks, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, tail and wings completed, fueslage almost done, engine next. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137577#137577 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:35 AM PST US From: Brett Hanley Subject: Zenith-List: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Heat will help to remove any type of self adhesive product most of the time. Just take a blow dryer or even better a commercial hot air gun to heat the tape. The heat will cause the glue to soften and the tape can be easily peeled off. Be sure not to overheat the area and burn the paint. Doing this on a hot day helps too. It might be that the hot weather caused the problem in the first place. I agree with an earlier post about the 3M product being a superior product. Aircraft spruce has it. I recommend that you do replace it especially if you wear crocs to fly. Crocs are as slick as owl dung smooth wet surfaces. That early morning flight after a heavy dew could become quite painful without the non skid surface. Brett do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:25 AM PST US From: "John M. Goodings" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. We first flew our CH601HD with bare metal for a few months in 2003. Then it was (professionally) painted, and large pieces of non-skid material were applied to each wing root. They have not deteriorated at all in 4 years, but the aircraft is hangared. There was no change to the cruise or climb speeds. We fixed our slight heavy wing problem very easily. We added a fixed (but ground-adjustable) trim tab to the right aileron; it was about 10 inches by 2 inches, bent down slightly about 20 degrees. Since then, the aircraft flies hands off. It is NOT necessary to change the trim tab with 1 or 2 people in the aircraft; it has remained the same since we first installed it. John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Ottawa Carp/Toronto. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:53 AM PST US From: "Dave Austin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. John, any change to the stall speed? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape From: japhillipsga@aol.com Dave, I used the self stick sheet and have had no problem with it. Bought from Spruce, cut to fit. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Dave Austin Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:25 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape ? I've wondered if putting the wing walk tape or spray or paint on the port wing is why there are complaints of "left wing heavy". Must play havoc with the air flow.? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII ? ? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:06 AM PST US From: "Dave Johnson" Subject: Zenith-List: Elevator bias spring I think this is a query for anyone building in the UK, as it concerns a PFA mandatory mod. The PFA insist that we install a link between the Flap torque tube an the elevator horn to apply a pitch bias when the flaps are lowered. I have the drawing for it, but don't have the facilities, (or the skill) to do the machining and welding needed. (the welding presumably has to be done by a CAA-approved welder). How have other builders dealt with this? CZAW don't want to know and Zenith don't reply to e-mails. Since it seems to be a UK-specific mod, I guess they wouldn't be able to help anyway. Any advice welcome! Dave Johnson 601XL 90% done, 90% to go ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:18 AM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Elevator bias spring Dave, call Zenith and ask for the Phone # to Zenair Europe. Nick Heintz is over there now to help you folks out. Zenith can=92t help because it was a European modification that they were not involved with. It was developed by Chris Heintz and the European dealer, of which Nick Heintz is now in charge. Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. HYPERLINK "mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com"president@can-zacaviation.com HYPERLINK "http://www.can-zacaviation.com/"www.can-zacaviation.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Johnson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Elevator bias spring I think this is a query for anyone building in the UK, as it concerns a PFA mandatory mod. The PFA insist that we install a link between the Flap torque tube an the elevator horn to apply a pitch bias when the flaps are lowered. I have the drawing for it, but don't have the facilities, (or the skill) to do the machining and welding needed. (the welding presumably has to be done by a CAA-approved welder). How have other builders dealt with this? CZAW don't want to know and Zenith don't reply to e-mails. Since it seems to be a UK-specific mod, I guess they wouldn't be able to help anyway. Any advice welcome! Dave Johnson 601XL 90% done, 90% to go "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Zenith-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com 10/2/2007 11:10 AM 10/2/2007 11:10 AM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:40 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question From: "Tim Juhl" The drawings give the measurements for marking and cutting the wing skins at their inboard edges. I'm not that far along but is there a reason you chose not to use those measurements? Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137621#137621 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:32 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question From: "Beckman, Rick" I am working my 601XL wing installation to the fuselage. So far I have trimmed the wing skin back far enough to get the wing bolts in. What have you guys found to be the optimal gap for the kit provided seal? The drawings do not mention anything and I could not find anything in the archives. Dave, I gave mine about a quarter of an inch. This will allow for any flex in the wing and if you use the rubber strip, it will easily cover the gap. Rick Beckman Midwest Mudworks 729 MSL and sinking Zodie Rocket XL 52EB www.sharbo.us/thebird Do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:38 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Wing Skin to Fuselage Gap Question From: "DaveG601XL" Rick, Thanks for the 1/4" suggestion. I am about there now so I will hold tight until I get ready to install them for real. Tim, I originally cut my skins to 10mm longer than the numbers given on drawing 6-W-9. In trimming bit-by-bit during my trial fitting, I have probably taken at least 15mm off putting me 5mm on the other side now. Drawing 6-S-3 shows the fit of the rubber seal, but it's just kind of floating out there with no suggested gap. Thanks guys, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, tail and wings completed, fueslage almost done, engine next. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137640#137640 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:13 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure From: "Edward Micallef" [Rolling Eyes] I am a new owner of a Zodiac 601 HDS The A/C has a TTEA of 150 Hrs.. The engine is a Rotax 912 UL # 4401716..I am used to Lyconing engines but Rotax is new to me. Lately I have noticed that the oil pressure is higher than what is specified in the manual. It is supposed to be 22-72 psi , when I am turning about 5000 rpm it fluctuate over 80psi. I can't find any thing about it in the trouble shooting about high oil pressure..Is there any body out there that had a similar problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated...Ed Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137669#137669 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:51:11 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy to the hoops instead of the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped holes and wonder if rivnuts could be used for repair or in the original build. One problem I see is that the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. The self-tapping screws hold the canopy against the smooth hoop. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:15:20 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? From: "Gig Giacona" I think your concern is correct. I'd try a larger screw first. craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote: > Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy to the hoops instead of > the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped holes and wonder if rivnuts > could be used for repair or in the original build. One problem I see is that > the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. The self-tapping screws > hold the canopy against the smooth hoop. > > -- Craig -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137673#137673 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure From: "Gig Giacona" Don't discount the sensor being wrong. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137677#137677 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:23 PM PST US From: Jeyoung65@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure Not sure where the pressure transmitter is located in your engine system but you may have a clogged oil filter. Jerry of Ga ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:37:25 PM PST US From: victor verdev Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? Craig, At Oshkosh this year I noticed the factory assembled 601XL in the Sports Planes area had soft aluminum pop rivets holding the canopy to the tubes and the side frames. I talked to the factory guy who said they were having no problems using the soft rivet with aluminum body and mandrel. --- Craig Payne wrote: > > > Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy > to the hoops instead of > the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped > holes and wonder if rivnuts > could be used for repair or in the original build. > One problem I see is that > the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. > The self-tapping screws > hold the canopy against the smooth hoop. > > -- Craig > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:08 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? >At Oshkosh this year I noticed the factory assembled 601XL in the Sports Planes area had soft aluminum pop rivets holding the canopy to the tubes and the side frames. Thanks, I had considered that approach too but didn't want to be the first guy to try it ;-) Did they use any washers under the head of the rivets? -- Craig do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:52:13 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? It would be more simple safe and easy to drill all the way through the tube and engage a K1000-6 nutplate. It would be a lot less esthetic but the ugly nutplates could be camouflaged by dressing up the tube with a split rubber hose to cover it from underneath. A big advantage of a nutplate is its locknut action allowing you to have it hold tight without tightening the screw hard against the plexiglass. Dred ---- Craig Payne wrote: > > Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy to the hoops instead of > the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped holes and wonder if rivnuts > could be used for repair or in the original build. One problem I see is that > the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. The self-tapping screws > hold the canopy against the smooth hoop. > > -- Craig ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:56:50 PM PST US From: ken smith Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? I tapped the holes and used 6-32 button head cap screws with a clear plastic washer under the head --- Gig Giacona wrote: > > > I think your concern is correct. I'd try a larger > screw first. > > > craig(at)craigandjean.com wrote: > > Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy > to the hoops instead of > > the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped > holes and wonder if rivnuts > > could be used for repair or in the original build. > One problem I see is that > > the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress > point. The self-tapping screws > > hold the canopy against the smooth hoop. > > > > -- Craig > > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137673#137673 > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:55 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? > I tapped the holes and used 6-32 button head cap screws with a clear plastic washer under the head Interesting idea. I'm surprised you got enough threads in the tube's thin wall to hold. Any pictures? -- Craig do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:48 PM PST US From: "John Bolding" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? Did that on my RV3 about 35 yrs/2000 hrs ago, no cracks so far but testing continues. LOW&SLO John >At Oshkosh this year I noticed the factory assembled 601XL in the Sports Planes area had soft aluminum pop rivets holding the canopy to the tubes and the side frames. Thanks, I had considered that approach too but didn't want to be the first guy to try it ;-) Did they use any washers under the head of the rivets? -- Craig do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:09 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Heavy Wing From: Check out this resource from Van's; vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf Craig S. N601XS, 601xl lyc 0-235, wiring in progress Dave,And everyone else out there ,How common is "heavy port wing"? I have that problem ,and it need's to be addressed, on my thing's to fix or adjust.All input is welcomed. ----------------------------------------- ************************************************** This e-mail and any of its attachments may contain Exelon Corporation proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to the Exelon Corporation family of Companies. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. Thank You. ************************************************** ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:35 PM PST US From: "Jim Fosse" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Re: Will there be a Zenith kit version of the Patriot? I was at Mexico last month and took a look at the CH 750 and it does have slats. The biggest difference I noted was the baggage compartment with windows, the heavier gear (much wider), different brakes, narrow tires (possibly just for flight testing) and the O200 Continental. Other than that I could hardly tell the difference. BTW, I had the good fortune of attending the "Gathering of Mustangs" last Saturday. There were 109 of them. What a hoot!!! Jim Fosse 701 N329F (Down for annual) Goreville, Il ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:45 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? > It would be more simple safe and easy to drill all the way through the tube and engage a K1000-6 nutplate. I wonder if the extra holes would appreciable weaken the tube more than just the single row of outside holes? But then again the riveted nutplate would strengthen the hoop. -- Craig ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:09 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? Then use "Well-nuts=AE" they work like a Rivnut but are rubber and shock ab sorbing.=0A =0ADave Downey=0AHarleysville (SE) PA=0A100 HP Corvair=0A=0A=0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Gig Giacona =0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 4:14:5 4 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on giacona@suddenlink.net>=0A=0AI think your concern is correct. I'd try a lar ger screw first.=0A=0A=0Acraig(at)craigandjean.com wrote:=0A> Has anybody t ried using rivnuts to hold the canopy to the hoops instead of=0A> the self- tapping screws? I've got a few stripped holes and wonder if rivnuts=0A> cou ld be used for repair or in the original build. One problem I see is that =0A> the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. The self-tapping s crews=0A> hold the canopy against the smooth hoop.=0A> =0A> -- Craig=0A=0A =0A--------=0AW.R. "Gig" Giacona=0A601XL Under Construction=0ASee my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137673#137673 ========0A=0A=0A =0A___________________________________ _________________________________________________=0AGot a little couch pota search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:20 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. Thanks John, Sounds good .Where did you locate it on theaileron. ? and if you put a tab on the rt. side at 20o down why couldn't you also put a tab on the left aileron at 20o up ? , wouldn't that balance or split the load between the two ailerons? Also what do think the bottom line cause is for the heavy left wing is? It seems to be a common thing,and why to the left? do you think that wing walk material can really cause that effect or any thing like low wing, left or right... Thanks Joe N101HD 601XL/RAM ----- Original Message ----- From: "John M. Goodings" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Non-Skid Tape, Heavy Left Wing, etc. > > We first flew our CH601HD with bare metal for a few months in 2003. Then > it was (professionally) painted, and large pieces of non-skid material > were applied to each wing root. They have not deteriorated at all in 4 > years, but the aircraft is hangared. There was no change to the cruise or > climb speeds. We fixed our slight heavy wing problem very easily. We > added a fixed (but ground-adjustable) trim tab to the right aileron; it > was about 10 inches by 2 inches, bent down slightly about 20 degrees. > Since then, the aircraft flies hands off. It is NOT necessary to change > the trim tab with 1 or 2 people in the aircraft; it has remained the same > since we first installed it. > > John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Ottawa Carp/Toronto. > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:08 PM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure HI Ed, welcome to the list, a couple of suggestions have been made about a faulty pressure transmitter. That is a good thing to think about but it might also be temperature related. I'm not flying my 912UL yet but one thing I have heard about these beasts is that they have quite a bit of oil cooling capacity. Is it possible you are running the oil temp too low and causing your pressure to be on the high side? Doug MacDonald CH-701 Scratch builder NW Ontario, Canada --- Edward Micallef wrote: > > > [Rolling Eyes] I am a new owner of a Zodiac 601 HDS > The A/C has a TTEA of 150 Hrs.. The engine is a > Rotax 912 UL # 4401716..I am used to Lyconing > engines but Rotax is new to me. Lately I have > noticed that the oil pressure is higher than what is > specified in the manual. It is supposed to be > 22-72 psi , when I am turning about 5000 rpm it > fluctuate over 80psi. I can't find any thing about > it in the trouble shooting about high oil > pressure..Is there any body out there that had a > similar problem? Any help will be greatly > appreciated...Ed > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? From: "PatrickW" Are the trailing edges of the Aileron and the Flap aligned with one another when both are in the "neutral" position...? I'm getting ready to drill the hingeless ailerons on my 601XL, and I've also got my flaps sitting there next to them, just to give it an "eyeball" check. The measurements seem to check, but it just doesn't look right.... Anybody with a completed wing that can give me a sanity check on the measurement between the trailing edge rivet line on the wing and the leading edge rivet line on the aileron? Is your entire trailing edge "one smooth line" across the ailerons and flaps...? Thanks! Patrick XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137730#137730 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:01 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure From: "sonar1@cox.net" Hi Ed: One thing you might check : I had what I considered to be low oil pressure, so I added two washer-like shims under the oil pressure spring in the oil pump housing. Now, I have WAY enough oil pressure. Perhaps the previous owner did that too???........Fred 701 912UL flying Building 601XL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137734#137734 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:36 PM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Zenith-List: Hanger land lease For those of you who asked, I was only able to get two land lease quotes. The Wichita Municipal airport is quoting .21 cents per square foot per mo nth A small public airport in the area is quoting .06 cents per square foot per month. Add the cost of a hanger, from fifteen to some thirty thousan d and it becomes a substantial expense. With the thousands of builders completing their projects, housing them at an airport becomes more of a problem every day. Bob, Wichita ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:59 PM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? Mine did not line up, not by a long shot. It was so far off (probably 20mm) the hingeless attachment was not possible. I got ZAC to send me wide hinges and and a doubler, and converted to hinged ailerons. Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J "PatrickW" wrote: > >Are the trailing edges of the Aileron and the Flap aligned with one another when both are in the "neutral" position...? > >I'm getting ready to drill the hingeless ailerons on my 601XL, and I've also got my flaps sitting there next to them, just to give it an "eyeball" check. > >The measurements seem to check, but it just doesn't look right.... > >Anybody with a completed wing that can give me a sanity check on the measurement between the trailing edge rivet line on the wing and the leading edge rivet line on the aileron? > >Is your entire trailing edge "one smooth line" across the ailerons and flaps...? > >Thanks! > >Patrick >XL/Corvair > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137730#137730 > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:55 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops? =0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops?=0A=0A=0A=0AThen use "Well-nuts=AE" they work like a Rivnut bu t are rubber and shock absorbing.=0A =0A=0A=0ADave Downey=0A=0AHarleysville (SE) PA=0A=0A100 HP Corvair=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ---- =0AFrom: Gig Giacona =0ATo: zenith-list@matronic s.com=0ASent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 4:14:54 PM=0ASubject: Zenith-List: R e: Rivnuts instead of self-tapping screws on canopy hoops?=0A=0A=0A--> Zeni th-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" =0A=0AI think your concern is correct. I'd try a larger screw first.=0A=0A=0Acraig (at)craigandjean.com wrote:=0A> Has anybody tried using rivnuts to hold the canopy to the hoops instead of=0A> the self-tapping screws? I've got a few stripped holes and wonder if rivnuts=0A> could be used for repair or in th e original build. One problem I see is that=0A> the shoulder of the rivnut could be a stress point. The self-tapping screws=0A> hold the canopy agains t the smooth hoop.=0A> =0A> -- Craig=0A=0A=0A--------=0AW.R. "Gig" ; Giacona=0A601XL Under Construction=0ASee my progress at www.peoamerica.ne t/N601WR=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matr onics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137673#13767= - The Zenithw.matronic s.com/Navigator?Zenith-List" target=_blank>http://www.matronics &nb/forums.matronics.com/"=0A====0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A Tonight' =================0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A____________________________________________________________________ ________________=0ABe a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers hoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:54 PM PST US From: "Dave Thompson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Getting Rid of Non-Skid Tape Juan said: "do the best you can then tape it off and use truck bed liner spray over the area." Years ago I had an all aluminum fishing boat (19ft). It had traction strip tape all over the deck when I got it. Most of it was pealing just like your picture. I used my thermal shrink hot air gun (for shrinking tubing around wires and covering model airplanes) and slowly heated up the tape and it pulled off very easily. I had no paint but agree that too much heat might burn the paint. Take your time and be careful. After the tape was removed, I masked it off and used truck bed liner paint. I found that masking tape didn't pull off very well after the liner paint. The paint was too thick and the masking tape just tore up. I had to use a razor blade to cut the edge of the paint at the tape. I tried duct tape and it worked wonders. It was strong enough to "cut" the paint at the masking edge. Get a new roll with clean edges and be sure to seal them well as with all other masking. The stuff lasted well with a great deal of abuse until I sold the boat 4 to 5 years later. Good luck, Dave Thompson ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:02 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL - Aileron/Flap Trailing Edge Alignment...? From: "Ron Lendon" I made mine like the top view on 6-W-00 considering all other views show the flap and aileron in the neutral position it seemed like the logical choice. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137752#137752 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:08 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure From: "Edward Micallef" [quote="Jeyoung65(at)aol.com"]Not sure where the pressure transmitter is located in your engine system but you may have a clogged oil filter. Jerry of Ga Thanks Jerry, I will check the oil filter although it has only 10 hrs since it was changed...Regards Ed See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137780#137780 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:19 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure From: "Edward Micallef" dougsnash(at)yahoo.com wrote: > HI Ed, welcome to the list, a couple of suggestions > have been made about a faulty pressure transmitter. > That is a good thing to think about but it might also > be temperature related. > > I'm not flying my 912UL yet but one thing I have heard > about these beasts is that they have quite a bit of > oil cooling capacity. Is it possible you are running > the oil temp too low and causing your pressure to be > on the high side? > > Doug MacDonald > CH-701 Scratch builder > NW Ontario, Canada > > > --- Edward Micallef wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [Rolling Eyes] I am a new owner of a Zodiac 601 HDS > > The A/C has a TTEA of 150 Hrs.. The engine is a > > Rotax 912 UL # 4401716..I am used to Lyconing > > engines but Rotax is new to me. Lately I have > > noticed that the oil pressure is higher than what is > > specified in the manual. It is supposed to be > > 22-72 psi , when I am turning about 5000 rpm it > > fluctuate over 80psi. I can't find any thing about > > it in the trouble shooting about high oil > > pressure..Is there any body out there that had a > > similar problem? Any help will be greatly > > appreciated...Ed > > > > Thank you Doug, I will check the oil temp and make a note where it it is when the oil pressure is high....Ed > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=137781#137781 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.