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     2. 05:54 AM - Re: In lite of the recent price discussion...CH 701 and Corvair (kmccune)
     3. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Getting all the little Chips out (Debo Cox)
     4. 07:59 AM - Jabiru engine choughing (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
     5. 09:08 AM - Bending leading edge skin (wade jones)
     6. 09:27 AM - Re: Jabiru engine coughing (Jeff Small)
     7. 11:22 AM - Fw: Jabiru engine coughing (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
     8. 01:18 PM - Re: CH701 Usable Fuel (kmccune)
     9. 04:42 PM - Re: Jabiru engine coughing (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
    10. 06:17 PM - Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft (txpilot)
    11. 06:37 PM - Re: Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft (george may)
    12. 06:51 PM - aileron trim kit (Southern Reflections)
    13. 06:54 PM - Re: Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft (zedvair)
    14. 07:02 PM - Re: aileron trim kit (Edward Moody II)
    15. 07:29 PM - Re: Getting all the little Chips out (Ron Lendon)
    16. 07:44 PM - Re: aileron trim kit (Southern Reflections)
    17. 07:52 PM - Re: Bending leading edge skin (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
    18. 08:06 PM - Re: In lite of the recent price discussion...CH 701  (Jim Fosse)
    19. 09:53 PM - Re: Jabiru engine coughing (T. Graziano)
    20. 10:52 PM - Re: Jabiru engine choughing (xl)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: In lite of the recent price discussion...CH 701 and Corvair | 
      
      
      A possibility might be to wait for the CH750, which is reportedly bigger than the
      CH701, and might be a better candidate for the Corvair.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138591#138591
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: In lite of the recent price discussion...CH 701 and Corvair | 
      
      
      I hate that! :o  Last night I searched  for corvair and 701 but I couldn't find
      a single topic. This morning they pop up... well like pop corn. :) 
      
      Guess I had typing problems last night.
      
      
      Thanks
      
      --------
      Kevin
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Getting all the little Chips out | 
      
      Hey Patrick,
         
        Excellent question. I just waited to rivet all of the skins until the entire
      skin-fitting process was done - leading edge included. I ended up having to dis-assemble
      the entire leading edge and remove the top and bottom skins so I could
      deburr the spar cap angle and clean out inside, but getting the chips and
      shavings out and deburring is that important to me. Since this is my hobby and
      I have no social life, the build for me is really about doing the best job I
      can - not necessarily the quickest. I'm definitely not the speediest of the bunch.
         
        Tape works great, as well as compressed air. Just don't seat chips and shavings
      deeper into nooks and crannies by blasting on them too aggressively with an
      air gun. I'm coming off sounding like "Mr. Clean", but just ask my wife, that's
      definitely NOT the case. There are actual aluminum shavings in my bed. Scary.
         
        Debo Cox
        Nags Head, NC
        Scratch-built XL/Corvair
        First wing 98% done
      
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Jabiru engine choughing | 
      
      Hey guys/gals: I purchased a Jabiru powered CH 601 HD last week (in  
      California). I did not have any problems flying it home (Central Florida) But 
      when I 
      went out yesterday, the engine wants to cough every minute or so. It  really 
      gets your attention.
          I have removed the cowling, checked the fuel for  any foreign matter and 
      looked carefully over all the engine connections to  ensure that nothing has 
      come loose or changed. So far it looks great. I must  admit that I do not know
      
      what to check next.
          I was told prior to the purchase that the  carburetor has the 
      modifications for the leaner burn, and it ran great on the  way home. Over 25 hours
      up at 
      altitude (11,500 or 9,500) and burned about 4.5  gallons per hour at around 
      1400 degrees EGT.
          What do the Jabiru engine experts suggest?
      Thanks
      Lynn
      
      
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| Subject:  | Bending leading edge skin | 
      
      Hello group ,yes it can be done the same as the Sonex .This morning I 
      was amazed at how easy it was to form the leading edge skin using the 
      vacuum method .It only took about one hour with the help of my lovely 
      wife . The results are very satisfactory. 
      
        Wade Jones
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jabiru engine coughing | 
      
          What do the Jabiru engine experts suggest?
      Thanks
      Lynn
      
      Hi Lynn,
      
      I won't claim any expertise with the 3300 but I really enjoy mine. 
      
      Why not contact Andy Silvester, your local distributor in FL, to ask 
      him.  Andy is always tactful and thorough in his answers and usually 
      prompt.  He will be the person you'll need for replacement parts and 
      advice through your Jab flying days.
      
      http://www.suncoastjabiru.com/<http://www.suncoastjabiru.com/>  A phone 
      call Monday would be ideal.
      
      My suggestion would be you check all fuel strainers (if any) and 
      especially the gascolator screen for foreign matter.  Check the coil to 
      magnets gap on both coils - should be .010.  Go to Pete's valuable info 
      site  
      http://www.usjabiru.com/technical-tips.html<http://www.usjabiru.com/techn
      ical-tips.html>  and see if the "idle adjustment" settings are correct.  
      Is this a "newer" engine with hydraulic lifters?  If solid lifters, when 
      did previous owner do last adjustment?  How many hours on engine?
      
      Any possibility of water in gas since you're now in FL?
      
      best of luck  jeff  HDS/3300 305 hours
      
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| Subject:  | Fwd: Jabiru engine coughing | 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: CH701 Usable Fuel | 
      
      
      Has anyone used a 3rd smaller tank in the fuselage, by plumbing both wing tanks
      to it and the plumbing this to the engine? It would only take a couple of gallons
      or less. And if you made the tank tall and narrow and place the outlet on
      the bottom, then most maneuvers would not effect fuel flow. 
      
      Kevin
      
      --------
      Kevin
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138649#138649
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Jabiru engine coughing | 
      
      
      Hey Jeff: I forgot to include in my first message that I had checked the  
      magnetos (New coils, rotors and caps less than 50 hours ago) and they showed  
      about 15 RPM drop per side, but the engine did the same thing on left, right or
      
      both mags. The engine is the older, solid lifter variety and the previous 
      owner  states, as well as his log book entries, that the lifter clearances have
      
      been  checked. I did not find any water in the fuel. The engine has less than 
      150  hours since new.
      Lynn
      
      
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| Subject:  | Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft | 
      
      
      Two regulatory questions on E-AB aircraft for all the reg guru's:
      
      1.  Are E-AB aircraft required to carry an ELT?
      
      2.  Is it legal to sell a portion of your E-AB aircraft in the interest of creating
      a partnership, even if the new partner has not contributed to the aircraft's
      construction?
      
      Thanks for any responses.
      
      Dan Ginty
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138670#138670
      
      
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| Subject:  | Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft | 
      
      
      yes to both questions. 
      
      George May
      601xl 912s 162 hours> Subject: Zenith-List: Questions on regs for E-AB Airc
      raft> From: djg7@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:15:56 -0700> To: zen
      7@comcast.net>> > Two regulatory questions on E-AB aircraft for all the reg
       guru's:> > 1. Are E-AB aircraft required to carry an ELT?> > 2. Is it lega
      l to sell a portion of your E-AB aircraft in the interest of creating a par
      tnership, even if the new partner has not contributed to the aircraft's con
      struction?> > Thanks for any responses.> > Dan Ginty> > > > > Read this top
      ic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138670#138
      =================> > > 
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| Subject:  | aileron trim kit | 
      
      After getting all the in put from the "Heavy Wing Subject" It would 
      appear to me the best avenue to take is  the  aileron trim kit from 
      zenith . It appears that weight , fuel, balance is always going to be a 
      on going issue. It would better to just  touch  a switch an keep every 
      thing in balance. Any body know what the kit goes for ?                  
                                  Joe N101HD 601XL/RAM
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Questions on regs for E-AB Aircraft | 
      
      
      
      gfmjr_20(at)HOTMAIL.COM wrote:
      > yes to both questions. 
      > 
      > 
      technically "no" to the first, if the e-ab happens to be a single seat aircraft.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138674#138674
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: aileron trim kit | 
      
      Lists for $330 on the Zenith website. I think that would be your cost 
      whether it is ordered as an option when you buy the wing kit, the entire 
      kit, or as an afterthought.
      
      Dred
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Southern Reflections 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:50 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: aileron trim kit
      
      
        After getting all the in put from the "Heavy Wing Subject" It would 
      appear to me the best avenue to take is  the  aileron trim kit from 
      zenith . It appears that weight , fuel, balance is always going to be a 
      on going issue. It would better to just  touch  a switch an keep every 
      thing in balance. Any body know what the kit goes for ?                  
                                  Joe N101HD 601XL/RAM
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Getting all the little Chips out | 
      
      
      Like Debo I too assemble everything and drill everything to final rivet size. 
      Then it all gets taken apart, deburred, wiped down with alcohol or lacquer thinner,
      then I use a two part self etching primer.  Let it dry 24hrs then reassemble
      it and rivet.
      
      --------
      Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
      Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
      http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138682#138682
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: aileron trim kit | 
      
      Thanks Dred, N101HD   Joe 
        ----- Original Message ----- Do not arc.
        From: Edward Moody II 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:01 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: aileron trim kit
      
      
        Lists for $330 on the Zenith website. I think that would be your cost 
      whether it is ordered as an option when you buy the wing kit, the entire 
      kit, or as an afterthought.
      
        Dred
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Southern Reflections 
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
          Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:50 PM
          Subject: Zenith-List: aileron trim kit
      
      
          After getting all the in put from the "Heavy Wing Subject" It would 
      appear to me the best avenue to take is  the  aileron trim kit from 
      zenith . It appears that weight , fuel, balance is always going to be a 
      on going issue. It would better to just  touch  a switch an keep every 
      thing in balance. Any body know what the kit goes for ?                  
                                  Joe N101HD 601XL/RAM
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Bending leading edge skin | 
      
      Can you send me some more pics of the skin?
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re:  In lite of the recent price discussion...CH 701  | 
      
      
      My 2 cents worth.  I think you will regret it if you put a 230 lb engine on 
      your 701.  My Suzuki weighs in the neighborhood of 200 lbs.  I had to put 30 
      pounds of ballast as far aft as I could to eliminate a nose heavy condition 
      and lack of up elevator authority.  In the process, what with the extra 50 
      lbs of engine and the 30 pounds of ballast, I have lost 80 lbs of useable 
      load.  The empty airplane weighs 0ver 700 lbs.  So, with a full fuel load 
      and my 190 lbs, I can carry a 90 lb passenger.  The trade off, of course, 
      is less fuel and less range.
      
      Jim Fosse
      CH 701  N329F
      Goreville, IL
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Jabiru engine coughing | 
      
      
      Lynn,
      
      Don't know if it will help, but I once had the terminal end of one of my 
      spark plugs (the little screw on tip) come completely loose.  
      I noticed it when I removed the plug wire and saw the threaded end where 
      the tip screws on.  The tip was still in the plug wire boot end. I had 
      had a "more than normal" rpm drop on a mag check (usually it is not 
      really noticeable) and was going to check my plugs to see if one was 
      fouling.
      
      I have found some of the terminal tip ends loose during my preventative 
      maintenance checks and now always make sure they are all tightened.
      
      Could you better describe the conditions under which the cough occurs?  
      Could you also better define the "cough"?  And of course, if you do find 
      the problem. please let us all know the corrective action.
      
      Based on my experience, I believe you are really going to like flying 
      behind the Jab.
      
      Tony Graziano
      Zodiac 601XL; JAB 3300A; N493TG; 304 hours
      
      
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            Subject:      RE: Jabiru engine coughing 
            From:      IFLYSMODEL@aol.com 
            Date:      Sun Oct 07 - 4:42 PM 
      
      Hey Jeff: I forgot to include in my first message that I had checked the 
      
      magnetos (New coils, rotors and caps less than 50 hours ago) and they 
      showed  
      about 15 RPM drop per side, but the engine did the same thing on left, 
      right or
      
      both mags. The engine is the older, solid lifter variety and the 
      previous 
      owner  states, as well as his log book entries, that the lifter 
      clearances have
      
      been  checked. I did not find any water in the fuel. The engine has less 
      than 
      150  hours since new.
      Lynn
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jabiru engine choughing | 
      
      
      
      My carb caused 'coughing'. Take a look at the following post and let me
      know if it helped. In short, the slide was dirty + needed to be cleaned.
      http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=47830?KEYS=carburetor?LISTNAME=Jabiru?HITNUMBER=3?SERIAL=2243271361
      
      Joe @ BFI
      N633Z, CH601XL
      Jabiru 3300, 492 hours
      
      
      On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote:
      > Hey guys/gals: I purchased a Jabiru powered CH 601 HD last week (in
      > California). I did not have any problems flying it home (Central Florida) But
      when I
      > went out yesterday, the engine wants to cough every minute or so. It  really
      > gets your attention.
      >     I have removed the cowling, checked the fuel for  any foreign matter and
      > looked carefully over all the engine connections to  ensure that nothing has
      > come loose or changed. So far it looks great. I must  admit that I do not know
      > what to check next.
      >     I was told prior to the purchase that the  carburetor has the
      > modifications for the leaner burn, and it ran great on the  way home. Over 25
      hours up at
      > altitude (11,500 or 9,500) and burned about 4.5  gallons per hour at around
      > 1400 degrees EGT.
      >     What do the Jabiru engine experts suggest?
      > Thanks
      > Lynn
      
      
 
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