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     1. 12:53 AM - Re: BMW Motor Mounts? (secatur)
     2. 01:29 AM - Re: BMW Motor Mounts? (HermanMullis@aol.com)
     3. 04:39 AM - Re: Extra stuff needed to complete the 601XL Airframe (haven)
     4. 05:20 AM - Re: Rudder failure (Carl)
     5. 07:43 AM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Bill Naumuk)
     6. 07:46 AM - Re: BMW Motor Mounts? (SockPuppet61)
     7. 08:08 AM - Adjusting landing lights (XL) (Tim Juhl)
     8. 08:11 AM - Re: Extra stuff needed to complete the 601XL Airframe (Tim Juhl)
     9. 08:48 AM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Zodie Rocket)
    10. 09:37 AM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Bill Naumuk)
    11. 10:58 AM - Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday (Frank Derfler)
    12. 12:36 PM - Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday (Bill Naumuk)
    13. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: BMW Motor Mounts? (Eric Tiethoff)
    14. 01:24 PM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Paul Riedlinger)
    15. 01:56 PM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Dave G.)
    16. 02:37 PM - Re: Hard Drive Failure (Craig Payne)
    17. 02:44 PM - battery access (LarryMcFarland)
    18. 03:57 PM - Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday (george may)
    19. 07:17 PM - 601 XL (steve)
    20. 07:24 PM - Re: 601 XL (Bill Naumuk)
    21. 07:38 PM - Re: 601 XL (Bryan Martin)
    22. 07:39 PM - Re: 601 XL (Gary Boothe)
    23. 08:32 PM - Jabiru Firewall Forward Installation Seminar (Mark Stauffer)
    24. 09:31 PM - Great software (David Mikesell)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: BMW Motor Mounts? | 
      
      
      
      j.e.tiethoff(at)hccnet.nl wrote:
      > Did you ever wonder why there isn't any motorcycle with a Lycoming, Rotax or
      > Jabiru- engine ?
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      > No. have you ever wondered why there were so many people in the world with an
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| Subject:  | Re: BMW Motor Mounts? | 
      
      Dear SockPuppet61,
      
      The entire BMW R 1200 Boxer series, all produce over 100hp. 
      
      That includes the GS, RT, and ST models.
      
      The R 1200 S model produces 122hp!
      
      These numbers are from the factory for the stock  motorcycles.  
      
      Of course, these engines are all fuel injected, dual ignition and the 1200  
      series motors have a second crank with counter weights to balance the drive  
      shaft.
      
      The 1200 GS introduced in 2004, is the number one selling BMW bike and over  
      100,000 GS have been sold.
      
      BMW has made a name for itself in the famous Paris-Dakar motocycle race,  
      which is one of the most gruelling and dangerous sporting events in the world,
      
      on both men and machines.
      
      i am not flying yet, but others have.  Take Off BMW says they have  produced 
      250 powerplants with the BMW, mostly on Trikes, but the biggest problem  is 
      the cost!!!
      
      Specially, with the dropping value of the dollar, all European exports to  
      the USA are going to get very expensive for dollar holders.  
      
      Which means the Rotax products are all going higher!  Pardon the  pun!!
      HKM 
      
      
         
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Extra stuff needed to complete the 601XL Airframe | 
      
      
      Here is one source for parts.  They have tabs for Tech Info, indicated with a little
      wrench, which gives you a lot of info about the items.  I am not building
      yet, so I don't know about their service, but they are very active on VAF.
      
      J
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140976#140976
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder failure | 
      
      SW,
      I added .040 doubler behind the spar and used eight 5/32 solid rivets. 
      Overkill but peace of mind increased.
      701/912 480 hours on floats.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: steve 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 1:29 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: Rudder failure
      
      
        I was asking about any rudder failures because there are only eight A 
      5 rivets that are in "tension" not shear holding the top hinges on.....
        I would think that an adhesive ( structural ) like J B Weld would be a 
      good addition and for peace for my mind....
      
        SW
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      
      Mark-
          Again?! From experience, my sympaties.
                                      do not archive
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:21 AM
      Subject: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      
      
      >
      > Just to let a few of you know, recently I have suffered a hard drive
      > failure in my server, this is causing me a lot of hardship in posting some
      > replies and retrieving information. I hope to be fully recovered by next
      > week. So if your waiting for a letter from me please be patient, if you do
      > not hear from me by weeks end then please re-send your letter. Presently I
      > am bound to my workshops laptop and blackberry for E-Mails.
      >
      > Mark Townsend
      > Can-Zac Aviation
      >
      > 2:59 PM
      >
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      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: BMW Motor Mounts? | 
      
      
      George M, HKM,
      
      Thanks for the links and other info.
      
      The BMW is particularly interesting for smaller aircraft in particular because
      of its weight / power.
      
      I believe it's likely that BMWs can handle more g-load (at least as much as some
      smaller aircraft airframes) than a auto motor. Events like Paris-Dakar jam substantial
      g-load on the motors.
      
      I suspected that the BMW might make a good conversion but hadn't heard of anyone
      doing it until now. Interesting that there are some 250 conversions, many of
      them flying.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140987#140987
      
      
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| Subject:  | Adjusting landing lights (XL) | 
      
      
      I'm wrapping up the install of the factory landing light kit just outboard of the
      last rib as shown in the drawings.  I have had to mess around a lot with the
      lens to get it to slide in and out and am hoping to save myself some trouble
      in the future.
      
      Would those of you who installed the lights and are using them be kind enough to
      share in general terms how you ended up angling the lights so that I might pre-adjust
      them somewhat?  I assume the inboard is for taxi and the outboard is
      aimed more for landing.  Starting with the bulbs square with the backing plate,
      what did you have to do?
      
      Tim
      
      --------
      ______________
      CFII
      Champ L16A flying
      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140990#140990
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Extra stuff needed to complete the 601XL Airframe | 
      
      
      The hardware kit that shipped with my kit included 7 jam nuts in total-  I suspect
      you should have received them as Zenith is pretty good about sending everything
      you need for work called for in the drawings.
      
      Tim
      
      --------
      ______________
      CFII
      Champ L16A flying
      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on wings
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140991#140991
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      
      I have 7 computers hooked up to my server, I have burnt through a Seagate,
      W.D. and Maxtor. Last time I swore I would install a RAID system but the
      cost was too much. SO my pooched Hard drive is sitting in the freezer now
      and I hope to be able to transfer over most if not all the information
      before it dies for good. 
      
      Mark
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
      Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:43 AM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      
      
      Mark-
          Again?! From experience, my sympaties.
                                      do not archive
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
      
      2:59 PM
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      
      Mark-
          There are companies that can recover all your information. Don't know 
      about Canadian tax law, but it'll probably make for a sizeable deduction.
          I've been through all three of the brands you mention, too. I don't 
      think it's so much a matter of the quality of the hard drive, but the 
      potency of the virus you picked up. I had a Maxtor primary with a WD backup 
      and both got totalled a couple of years back by the Microsoft Virus. It 
      attacked the lowest levels of your OS.
          FWIW, I'm particular to Maxtor, not so much for the hardware but the Max 
      Blast software.
                                          do not archive
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
      Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:46 AM
      Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      
      
      >
      > I have 7 computers hooked up to my server, I have burnt through a Seagate,
      > W.D. and Maxtor. Last time I swore I would install a RAID system but the
      > cost was too much. SO my pooched Hard drive is sitting in the freezer now
      > and I hope to be able to transfer over most if not all the information
      > before it dies for good.
      >
      > Mark
      > Do not archive
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
      > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:43 AM
      > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      >
      >
      > Mark-
      >    Again?! From experience, my sympaties.
      >                                do not archive
      > Bill Naumuk
      > HDS Fuse/Corvair
      > Townville, Pa
      >
      > 2:59 PM
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday | 
      
      Actually.. I've been flying an AMD 601XL for exactly a year.  On Tuesday I
      flew it back from its annual in Georgia to Marathon in the Florida Keys.  It
      was about 5 hours in the air with one stop at Lakeland, FL for the old man.
      
      
      As far as the indicated airspeed, in general flying I often see indicated at
      110-115 knots and I often see 100 knots.  Tuesday was a 100 knot day... at
      8500 feet with the ground temp at 92 and the density altitude in the
      stratosphere someplace.  I had to be that high to scrape over the tops...
      and at one point Ft. Myers approach said "uh, three alpha mike .. barometer
      2992."  That was the controller's subtle way of asking me if I knew what
      altitude I was at.  The Dynon reported about 9100'.  Some cloud tops were
      higher.  The little prop was turning and the fuel was burning, but the
      airspeed was quivering at 99 knots.  I held the 0-200 to 2550 RPM, although
      I'm sure it would have been safe closer to the red line.  The EGTs and CHTs
      were dandy.  I just told him that I was clearing clouds and he said,
      "Maintain VFR".  That's the right answer.
      
      My point is that discussion of indicated airspeed is silly without knowing
      every parameter of the flight.  Density altitude is critical to the
      discussion.
      
      As one commentator indicated, as an old guy flyer it gives me great pleasure
      to be behind an 0-200. I can drop into any field in Florida and find
      somebody who knows the engine.
      
      I'm happy to report that the folks at AMD got me out of the annual
      in exactly 24 hours.  I took off for the return flight exactly 24 hours from
      when I arrived.  The LONGEST part of the exercise was backing up the Dynon
      prior to uploading the newest software rev.  That took forever and we were
      pretty much afraid to touch anything while the Dynon was plugged into the
      laptop  That's when we went to town and ate fried pork chops, okra, and
      black eyed peas.  With cherry cobbler and banana pudding.
      
       Also, happy to report that the latest rev of the D-180 software completely
      cured the problem of the charging the internal backup battery.  It works
      now.
      
      We replaced the non-skid strips and yes, the heat gun made it a piece of
      cake ... or pecan pie.. as the case may be.
      
      Oh, by the way, everyone seems to want to know about the AMD Patriot.  Watch
      for it as a production airplane, with an option for floats, in early 2008.
      Pieces and parts from S. America.. customized and assembled for you by fine
      Georgia (USA) Craftsman.  Engine by Lycoming... and proud of it.
      
      -- 
      Frank Derfler
      
      -- Daily Discussions of All the Guy Toys that aren't (clearly) illegal or
      (blatantly) immoral at my Blog http://MOSTLYFLYING.blogspot.com
      
      - Pilots learn about flights to great places at www.FLYINFLORIDA.COM
      
      -Boaters get the Best Information on Cruising the Florida Keys at
      www.KEYSBOATER.com
      
      -For the Best Gifts for Guys see my   www.GREATGUYBOOKS.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday | 
      
      Frank-
          Do you have an early or current version of the Dynon? Software 
      download problems aside, are you satisfied? Finally, are software 
      upgrades free, as Dynon ads claim?
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Frank Derfler 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:55 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday
      
      
        Actually.. I've been flying an AMD 601XL for exactly a year.  On 
      Tuesday I flew it back from its annual in Georgia to Marathon in the 
      Florida Keys.  It was about 5 hours in the air with one stop at 
      Lakeland, FL for the old man.  
      
        As far as the indicated airspeed, in general flying I often see 
      indicated at 110-115 knots and I often see 100 knots.  Tuesday was a 100 
      knot day... at 8500 feet with the ground temp at 92 and the density 
      altitude in the stratosphere someplace.  I had to be that high to scrape 
      over the tops...  and at one point Ft. Myers approach said "uh, three 
      alpha mike .. barometer 2992."  That was the controller's subtle way of 
      asking me if I knew what altitude I was at.  The Dynon reported about 
      9100'.  Some cloud tops were higher.  The little prop was turning and 
      the fuel was burning, but the airspeed was quivering at 99 knots.  I 
      held the 0-200 to 2550 RPM, although I'm sure it would have been safe 
      closer to the red line.  The EGTs and CHTs were dandy.  I just told him 
      that I was clearing clouds and he said, "Maintain VFR".  That's the 
      right answer.  
      
        My point is that discussion of indicated airspeed is silly without 
      knowing every parameter of the flight.  Density altitude is critical to 
      the discussion.  
      
        As one commentator indicated, as an old guy flyer it gives me great 
      pleasure to be behind an 0-200. I can drop into any field in Florida and 
      find somebody who knows the engine.    
      
        I'm happy to report that the folks at AMD got me out of the annual in 
      exactly 24 hours.  I took off for the return flight exactly 24 hours 
      from when I arrived.  The LONGEST part of the exercise was backing up 
      the Dynon prior to uploading the newest software rev.  That took forever 
      and we were pretty much afraid to touch anything while the Dynon was 
      plugged into the laptop  That's when we went to town and ate fried pork 
      chops, okra, and black eyed peas.  With cherry cobbler and banana 
      pudding.   
      
         Also, happy to report that the latest rev of the D-180 software 
      completely cured the problem of the charging the internal backup 
      battery.  It works now.  
      
        We replaced the non-skid strips and yes, the heat gun made it a piece 
      of cake ... or pecan pie.. as the case may be.        
      
        Oh, by the way, everyone seems to want to know about the AMD Patriot.  
      Watch for it as a production airplane, with an option for floats, in 
      early 2008.  Pieces and parts from S. America.. customized and assembled 
      for you by fine Georgia (USA) Craftsman.  Engine by Lycoming... and 
      proud of it.    
      
        -- 
        Frank Derfler 
      
        -- Daily Discussions of All the Guy Toys that aren't (clearly) illegal 
      or (blatantly) immoral at my Blog http://MOSTLYFLYING.blogspot.com 
      
        - Pilots learn about flights to great places at www.FLYINFLORIDA.COM
      
        -Boaters get the Best Information on Cruising the Florida Keys at 
      www.KEYSBOATER.com    
      
        -For the Best Gifts for Guys see my   www.GREATGUYBOOKS.com 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: BMW Motor Mounts? | 
      
      
      
      The airframe of the Zenairs can handle a g-load of +6. With a 100hp engine
      you can't sustain more than 3G. So what's the point of an engine that can
      handle more than this ? (Unless you taxiing the Paris-Dakar wth your
      aircraft).
      
      
      -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
      Van: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] Namens SockPuppet61
      Verzonden: zondag 21 oktober 2007 16:46
      Aan: zenith-list@matronics.com
      Onderwerp: Zenith-List: Re: BMW Motor Mounts?
      
      
      --> <sockpuppet61@gmail.com>
      
      George M, HKM,
      
      Thanks for the links and other info.
      
      The BMW is particularly interesting for smaller aircraft in particular
      because of its weight / power.
      
      I believe it's likely that BMWs can handle more g-load (at least as much as
      some smaller aircraft airframes) than a auto motor. Events like Paris-Dakar
      jam substantial g-load on the motors.
      
      I suspected that the BMW might make a good conversion but hadn't heard of
      anyone doing it until now. Interesting that there are some 250 conversions,
      many of them flying.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140987#140987
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      I have had experience on both fronts:
      
      1)  I had a catastrophic crash of a hard disk that had 5 years of digital
      photos on it that were not backed up.....Stupid me had backed a laptop's
      data on the removable backup drive overtop of the main system backup to play
      with Linux when the crash on the main system occurred.  I took my drive to a
      data-forensic company here in Toronto.  After 2 week, a complete drive
      rebuild in a clean room and hours of data recovery tries, I got nothing!
      Fortunately, I also got a bill of $0 since they don't charge if they cant
      get any data.
      
      2)  Since then I have been a religious backer-upper.    On our household
      network I started with an Xmeta NAS drive that everyone in the house backed
      up to.   I recently upgraded to a DROBO system (www.drobo.com) and have been
      extremely happy.  In a nutshell, the system can hold up to 2 TB of data in
      mirror.  If a drive fails, the system lets you know, and you can hotswap
      the  failed drive without turning anything off and the system will
      automatically re-mirror itself.   Very nice!
      
      With 500 GB drives running under $200 there is not excuse not to run a full
      time backup system.
      
      I know the frustration Mark.  Been there, done that!
      
      
      On 10/21/07, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Mark-
      >     There are companies that can recover all your information. Don't know
      > about Canadian tax law, but it'll probably make for a sizeable deduction.
      >     I've been through all three of the brands you mention, too. I don't
      > think it's so much a matter of the quality of the hard drive, but the
      > potency of the virus you picked up. I had a Maxtor primary with a WD
      > backup
      > and both got totalled a couple of years back by the Microsoft Virus. It
      > attacked the lowest levels of your OS.
      >     FWIW, I'm particular to Maxtor, not so much for the hardware but the
      > Max
      > Blast software.
      >                                     do not archive
      > Bill Naumuk
      > HDS Fuse/Corvair
      > Townville, Pa
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:46 AM
      > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      >
      >
      > >
      > > I have 7 computers hooked up to my server, I have burnt through a
      > Seagate,
      > > W.D. and Maxtor. Last time I swore I would install a RAID system but the
      > > cost was too much. SO my pooched Hard drive is sitting in the freezer
      > now
      > > and I hope to be able to transfer over most if not all the information
      > > before it dies for good.
      > >
      > > Mark
      > > Do not archive
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      > > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
      > > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:43 AM
      > > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      > > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      > >
      > >
      > > Mark-
      > >    Again?! From experience, my sympaties.
      > >                                do not archive
      > > Bill Naumuk
      > > HDS Fuse/Corvair
      > > Townville, Pa
      > >
      > > 2:59 PM
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
      Paul Riedlinger
      cndmovn@gmail.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      Backing up disks the size of the ones now used in PC's is a rather large 
      project. It might be easier to obtain one of the readily available cheap 
      RAID controllers and a second hard drive of the same capacity. You can 
      have full and real time redundancy. Better than backups with less 
      effort.  
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Paul Riedlinger 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:23 PM
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      
      
        I have had experience on both fronts:
      
        1)  I had a catastrophic crash of a hard disk that had 5 years of 
      digital photos on it that were not backed up.....Stupid me had backed a 
      laptop's data on the removable backup drive overtop of the main system 
      backup to play with Linux when the crash on the main system occurred.  I 
      took my drive to a data-forensic company here in Toronto.  After 2 week, 
      a complete drive rebuild in a clean room and hours of data recovery 
      tries, I got nothing!  Fortunately, I also got a bill of $0 since they 
      don't charge if they cant get any data. 
      
        2)  Since then I have been a religious backer-upper.    On our 
      household network I started with an Xmeta NAS drive that everyone in the 
      house backed up to.   I recently upgraded to a DROBO system ( 
      www.drobo.com) and have been extremely happy.  In a nutshell, the system 
      can hold up to 2 TB of data in mirror.  If a drive fails, the system 
      lets you know, and you can hotswap the  failed drive without turning 
      anything off and the system will automatically re-mirror itself.   Very 
      nice! 
      
        With 500 GB drives running under $200 there is not excuse not to run a 
      full time backup system.
      
        I know the frustration Mark.  Been there, done that!
      
      
        On 10/21/07, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
      
          Mark-
              There are companies that can recover all your information. Don't 
      know
          about Canadian tax law, but it'll probably make for a sizeable 
      deduction.
              I've been through all three of the brands you mention, too. I 
      don't
          think it's so much a matter of the quality of the hard drive, but 
      the 
          potency of the virus you picked up. I had a Maxtor primary with a WD 
      backup
          and both got totalled a couple of years back by the Microsoft Virus. 
      It
          attacked the lowest levels of your OS.
              FWIW, I'm particular to Maxtor, not so much for the hardware but 
      the Max 
          Blast software.
                                              do not archive
          Bill Naumuk
          HDS Fuse/Corvair
          Townville, Pa
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Zodie Rocket" < zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
          To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
          Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:46 AM
          Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure
      
      
      zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
          >
          > I have 7 computers hooked up to my server, I have burnt through a 
      Seagate,
          > W.D. and Maxtor. Last time I swore I would install a RAID system 
      but the 
          > cost was too much. SO my pooched Hard drive is sitting in the 
      freezer now
          > and I hope to be able to transfer over most if not all the 
      information
          > before it dies for good.
          >
          > Mark
          > Do not archive 
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
          > [mailto: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
      Naumuk
          > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:43 AM
          > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
          > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hard Drive Failure 
          >
      <naumuk@alltel.net>
          >
          > Mark-
          >    Again?! From experience, my sympaties.
          >                                do not archive 
      
      
        -- 
        Paul Riedlinger
        cndmovn@gmail.com 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hard Drive Failure | 
      
      Also Microsoft Home Server is now out. Although dedicated servers running
      MHS like HPs are not out yet you can buy just the software and install it on
      a regular PC. Like the Drobo it does pseudo-RAID and ensures that your data
      is redundantly spread across multiple drives. The advantage of MHS over the
      Drobo or an external NAS box is that it runs on generic hardware. If your
      proprietary hardware dies you loose access to all your redundant drives
      (this happened to at least one Buffalo customer I know of).
      
      do not archive
      
      -- Craig
      
      
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      Hi guys,
      The construction journal put my batteries at 4 years, so this year one 
      had to be replaced.
      Battery replacement and access seemed difficult as the 601s cabin width 
      contradicts my 6-0 frame. A fetal position isnt good at my age, so 
      perhaps a description is due for those who contemplate or are putting 
      these batteries a foot or more behind the passenger seat for a balanced CG.
      
      The new battery was taken to the hangar. With the hangar door and canopy 
      up, 3/8-inch wrenches were placed on the back shelf and a trouble light 
      was set thru the pilot side. The seat backs were removed and a large 
      foam-filled pillowcase was placed on each seat. Large foam-filled 
      pillows make a full-width flat space thats near level with the console. 
      Then, standing on the wing walk facing out, I carefully lowered my 
      bottom over the side rail onto the foam pillow and pilots seat. I then 
      laid back over the console onto the other side and twisted left to get 
      both arms thru the seat bulkhead to the batteries. With tennis shoes and 
      knees still hanging outside, it was tolerable!
      
      During construction, I placed my ground and contactor connections 
      forward of the batteries to put the 4 cable connections in close 
      proximity so without disconnecting, each battery can be lifted and 
      rotated for removal.
      
      The battery hold-down bungee was removed and #1 battery was lifted from 
      the box, rotated 180 degrees, and moved forward to a support tray 
      between the battery box and the seat. There, the terminals were undone 
      and the new battery was installed. Reconnect was easier and took half 
      the time from this position.
      
      The reason I mention this, its easy to bust something trying to access 
      to things forward and aft of the seats, but the pillows work really well 
      and dampen the rib pain.
      
      So, if you do contemplate putting batteries back there consider little 
      things that make them accessible and serviceable.
      
      Fly safe guys,
      
      Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday | 
      
      
      Frank--
        Don't know why it took so long for your upgrade on the Dynon.  I just upg
      raded to the latest software on both my D100 and D180.  The D180 took about
       20 minutes to backup current software and about 1/2 to upload new software
      .  The EFIS only too about 20 minutes to do the upload.
      
      George May
      601XL  912s 164 hours
      
      
      t@matronics.comSubject: Zenith-List: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday
      Actually.. I've been flying an AMD 601XL for exactly a year.  On Tuesday I 
      flew it back from its annual in Georgia to Marathon in the Florida Keys.  I
      t was about 5 hours in the air with one stop at Lakeland, FL for the old ma
      n.  
      
      As far as the indicated airspeed, in general flying I often see indicated a
      t 110-115 knots and I often see 100 knots.  Tuesday was a 100 knot day... a
      t 8500 feet with the ground temp at 92 and the density altitude in the stra
      tosphere someplace.  I had to be that high to scrape over the tops...  and 
      at one point Ft. Myers approach said "uh, three alpha mike .. barometer 299
      2."  That was the controller's subtle way of asking me if I knew what altit
      ude I was at.  The Dynon reported about 9100'.  Some cloud tops were higher
      .  The little prop was turning and the fuel was burning, but the airspeed w
      as quivering at 99 knots.  I held the 0-200 to 2550 RPM, although I'm sure 
      it would have been safe closer to the red line.  The EGTs and CHTs were dan
      dy.  I just told him that I was clearing clouds and he said, "Maintain VFR"
      .  That's the right answer.  
      
      My point is that discussion of indicated airspeed is silly without knowing 
      every parameter of the flight.  Density altitude is critical to the discuss
      ion.  
      
      As one commentator indicated, as an old guy flyer it gives me great pleasur
      e to be behind an 0-200. I can drop into any field in Florida and find some
      body who knows the engine.    
      
      I'm happy to report that the folks at AMD got me out of the annual in exact
      ly 24 hours.  I took off for the return flight exactly 24 hours from when I
       arrived.  The LONGEST part of the exercise was backing up the Dynon prior 
      to uploading the newest software rev.  That took forever and we were pretty
       much afraid to touch anything while the Dynon was plugged into the laptop 
       That's when we went to town and ate fried pork chops, okra, and black eyed
       peas.  With cherry cobbler and banana pudding.   
      
       Also, happy to report that the latest rev of the D-180 software completely
       cured the problem of the charging the internal backup battery.  It works n
      ow.  
      
      We replaced the non-skid strips and yes, the heat gun made it a piece of ca
      ke ... or pecan pie.. as the case may be.        
      
      Oh, by the way, everyone seems to want to know about the AMD Patriot.  Watc
      h for it as a production airplane, with an option for floats, in early 2008
      .  Pieces and parts from S. America.. customized and assembled for you by f
      ine Georgia (USA) Craftsman.  Engine by Lycoming... and proud of it.    -- 
      Frank Derfler -- Daily Discussions of All the Guy Toys that aren't (clearly
      ) illegal or (blatantly) immoral at my Blog http://MOSTLYFLYING.blogspot.co
      m - Pilots learn about flights to great places at www.FLYINFLORIDA.COM-Boat
      ers get the Best Information on Cruising the Florida Keys at www.KEYSBOATER
      .com    -For the Best Gifts for Guys see my   www.GREATGUYBOOKS.com 
      
      
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      I m installing the control cables in my 601 XL and have a problem with 
      the trun buckles.
      Do the barrells have a right and left hand thread ?
      I think they do and all of the "forks and eyes" have right hand threads.
      Am I wrong or did Zenith send me the wrong parts ??
      
      Steve # 55
      
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      They're right and left threads, but I couldn't tell you offhand which is 
      which.
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: steve 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:16 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL
      
      
        I m installing the control cables in my 601 XL and have a problem with 
      the trun buckles.
        Do the barrells have a right and left hand thread ?
        I think they do and all of the "forks and eyes" have right hand 
      threads.
        Am I wrong or did Zenith send me the wrong parts ??
      
        Steve # 55
      
      
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      The turnbuckle barrels have a left hand thread on one end and a right  
      hand thread on the other. There should be forks or eyes with either  
      left hand thread or right hand thread to match the barrels. If Zenith  
      sent the wrong parts, give them a call and they should send out the  
      right parts right a away. I've gotten real good service from them  
      while I was building my plane.
      
      
      On Oct 21, 2007, at 10:16 PM, steve wrote:
      
      > I m installing the control cables in my 601 XL and have a problem  
      > with the trun buckles.
      > Do the barrells have a right and left hand thread ?
      > I think they do and all of the "forks and eyes" have right hand  
      > threads.
      > Am I wrong or did Zenith send me the wrong parts ??
      >
      > Steve # 55
      
      
      -- 
      Bryan Martin
      N61BM, CH 601 XL,
      RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
      do not archive.
      
      
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      They are designed so that you can turn the barrel one way to tighten, one
      way to loosen. They need both right and left.
      
      
      Gary Boothe 
      Cool, CA 
      601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, 
      Tail done, wings done, working on c-section 
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk
      Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:24 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL
      
      
      They're right and left threads, but I couldn't tell you offhand which is
      which.
      
      Bill Naumuk
      HDS Fuse/Corvair
      Townville, Pa
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: steve <mailto:notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>  
      
      
      Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:16 PM
      
      Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL
      
      
      I m installing the control cables in my 601 XL and have a problem with the
      trun buckles.
      
      Do the barrells have a right and left hand thread ?
      
      I think they do and all of the "forks and eyes" have right hand threads.
      
      Am I wrong or did Zenith send me the wrong parts ??
      
      
      Steve # 55
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matronhref
      "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jabiru Firewall Forward Installation Seminar | 
      
      Jabiru USA is hosting a Zenith Firewall Forward Installation Seminar 16-18
      November 2007.
      
      Please visit http://www.usjabiru.com/zenithseminar.html for more
      information.
      
      Best regards,
      
      Mark
      
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      Ok, here is some pretty good software for the airplane mechanic or even 
      the airplane hobbyist.
      It was $22 and I downloaded  or you can get the cd. It is called the 
      Mechanics toolbox @ http://www.mechanicsupport.com/TellMeMore1.html and 
      after being a mechanic for my entire life, I find this a great single 
      resource for anything. I have been playing with it for a week and still 
      amazed at all the things I find in it. Example Fasternes listed by part 
      number, type with their strengths broken down by shear, tension, wear, 
      vibrations.......tons of info. I was looking for my Bendix mag book for 
      our Cessna 206 with the big turbocharged Lycoming in it, out mag died 
      and I could not find the parts list to order new points......guess what 
      it was in the Mechanics Toolbox........guys check out the software. You 
      can download it and check it out in Demo mode. I believe it is well 
      worth the money.
      
      
      David Mikesell
      230 Theresa Drive, #6
      Cloverdale, CA 95425
      209-224-4485
      skyguynca@skyguynca.com
      www.skyguynca.com
      
 
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