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1. 03:42 AM - Dynon POH (Zodie Rocket)
2. 04:32 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (Bob Unternaehrer)
3. 04:32 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (DaveG601XL)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (steve@cccparis.com)
5. 07:21 AM - Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday (yak52)
6. 08:57 AM - Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito)
7. 09:27 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (PatrickW)
8. 09:45 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Access (ashontz)
9. 10:02 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Access (ashontz)
10. 10:12 AM - Re: Dynon POH (river1)
11. 11:42 AM - 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano Hinge) (Dave VanLanen)
12. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (Dan)
13. 12:59 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Southern Reflections)
14. 01:33 PM - Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (George Race)
15. 02:17 PM - Larger Brake (ZodieRocket)
16. 02:28 PM - Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke)
17. 03:03 PM - John Croke (Tracy)
18. 03:26 PM - Re: John Croke (Jon Croke)
19. 03:34 PM - Re: Larger Brake (river1)
20. 04:32 PM - Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (LarryMcFarland)
21. 04:32 PM - Re: Larger Brake (David Mikesell)
22. 04:43 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (R.D.(Ron) Leclerc)
23. 04:54 PM - Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano (Tim Juhl)
24. 04:59 PM - Re: 427JV Flying update (Tim Juhl)
25. 05:06 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke)
26. 05:37 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Ron Lendon)
27. 06:37 PM - Re: John Croke (Tracy)
28. 07:37 PM - 2000 hours (Darrell Haas)
29. 08:07 PM - Re: 2000 hours (Tim Juhl)
30. 09:34 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Bob Unternaehrer)
31. 09:51 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Craig Payne)
32. 10:02 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (ProWash)
33. 10:24 PM - Hangar clean out (sales@steelframe)
34. 10:32 PM - Re: Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke)
35. 11:51 PM - Re: Rib Form measurement (rlalonde)
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Has anyone spent the time to do the POH list and checklists in their Dynon
100. IF so please E-Mail me off list at cdngoose@hsfx.ca
Thanks
cdngoose
2:31 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? |
Can you get to the area to use "squeeze or Buck" rivets. They come in
"oversize" (slightly) so you don't have to go to the next size. bob U.
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From: PatrickW
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Where to buy A6 Rivets...?
I have some holes (intended for A5 rivets) that are larger than they
should be.
Usual practice is to "go up to the next sized rivet".
I see A4 and A5 rivets available everywhere. But no A6's.
Anybody know where I can get good quality A6 rivets...?
Thanks,
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? |
Patrick,
Aircraft Spruce sells them.
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David Gallagher
601 XL, tail and wings completed,
fueslage almost done, engine next.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? |
Aircraft Spruce AVEX Countersunk 1604-0515
Steve Russell
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| Subject: | Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday |
The decision to go with an 0-200 is based on more factors than cost although:
1.You can buy an 0-200 and rebuild it to specifications that have been proven by
over 40 years of flying experience for less than the cost of a new Rotax or
Jabiru.
2. Sensenich and other propellor manufacturers will be able to provide you with
a propellor specifically for that engine.
3. An 0-200 does not require you to be the test pilot while Rotax and others go
through their "teething" problems.
3. Almost any airport with a maintenance facility can and will repair your 0-200
should you need it during cross country flights.
Additionally, there is nothing new to "learn" to operate either a Rotax or a
Jabiru other than how to get the engine over to the repair facility during its
"teething" problems.
Cessna's decision to use the Continental came after the airplane was taken around
the airshow circuit with a Rotax and seeking pilot input as to their preference
for the engine. Cessna wanted the Rotax, but the people who were going to
fly and maintain them wanted the Continental.
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| Subject: | Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox |
Hi Tracy and Guys,
If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy.
Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you.
Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send
some pictures for you too.
See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes,
notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to
built and more safe.
http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/
Rgds,
Roberto Brito.
Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300
Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma.
Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h
Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h
Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm
www.airfox.com.br
Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil.
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? |
Bingo! Thanks.
Here's what I did:
I went to www.aircraftspruce.com
Did "search" on "AVEX".
Looked at the list, and saw "1604-0615" which is Countersunk 3/16" Avex rivets.
Ordered a couple hundred, along with some other stuff I needed.
Thanks,
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel Access |
Tony, how much did you pay for that Garmin GPS-295? Funny thing is, it looks IDENTICAL
to the Garmin Street Pilot I bought at a yardsale last month for $20 (yes,
twenty dollars), and it works fine. Obviously they're using the same case
and just uploading a different program and database to the two. I wonder if there's
some way to get a new programmed chip for my unit, or install a new software
package in my yardsale unit and use that when it comes time. I see the new
Garmin 296 is going for $1,200.
[quote="tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne"]John,
One of the BEST decisions I made was to make the fwd top skin removable. I used
rivnuts and 6-32 SS screws. Others have used nutplates and J clips?? etc.
With the skin removed, you have access not only to the instrument panel, but
to the inside fwd firewall, rudder peddles and cables, steering rods, brakes,
etc.
Also, I have removal of the top skin part of my annual condition inspection to
check wiring, and other areas under the instrument panel that would be a real
problem to inspect with the skin in place.
I also have a removable panel aft of the canopy "line" on the top skin. On it,
I have provisions to mount 1 or 2 Garmin GPSs (One for the pilots side and
one for my spouse's side) and have also mounted a vertical compass card.. Coming
through this panel I have compass lighting wiring and hard wiring for the
GPS's through grommeted holes that have a slots leading to the holes from
the edge of the panel.. When I remove the top skin, I remove this panel first
and can leave the wiring intact by passing it through the slot.
You can see my instrument panel at http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo79.html (http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo79.html) (Zenith Photo Library #79) as originally finished, but since I have added some "Stuff" , such as a switch and a blinking light to show "Wig-wag" taxi/landing lights, another switch to use either Garmin GPS to drive my AP, a light to show when I have the aux fuel pump on, a Tru-Track T&B, and ...
I really like what you can easily do with your airplane when it is "Experimental".
If I had to drill out the top skin rivets to gain access to the instrument
panel aft areas, it would not be as much fun and also I believe would result
in a real mess to clean up.
Tony Graziano
XL/Jab3300; N493TG; 304 hrs
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Subject: Instrument Panel Access From:
John Davis (johnd@data-tech.com (johnd@data-tech.com?subject=Re:%20Instrument%20Panel%20Access&replyto=470D085D.6000304@data-tech.com))
Date:
[b]Wed Oct 10 - 10:30 AM[/b]
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm just wrapping up my electrical work and am getting close to putting
> > on the front skin over the panel area. Riveting it per the factory seems
> > to be a poor choice since I wont have any easy access to the rear of the
> > panel.
> >
> > So it seems like the options are:
> >
> > A) Install nutplates or similar and make the entire skin removable. As I
> > have a QB kit their are already 90+ rivet holes that would have to be
> > fitted, so thats a lot of work.
> >
> > B) Install the skin permanently but add a couple of access panels on the
> > top. Seems like several folks on the list are doing this. My only
> > concern with this approach would be water leaking under the access
> > panel. Any ideas as to how to prevent/avoid this issue ?
> >
> > Your thoughts/Ideas ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John Davis
> > Burnsville, NC
> > 601XL QB - Jab 3300
> >
>
> [b]
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Instrument Panel Access |
Well, apparently there is no way to upgrade a Street Pilot to a 295 (http://www.cockpitgps.com/cpgpsweb/cockpitgps.htm). That would have been sweet. Oh well, I'm sure someone is capable of it, but not worth my researching it.
Interesting website though.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg that says
"unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and down loaded the
brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the H-stab is over 7' and
I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one for all the bends . It's that
ok ? , or it will need too many changes to make it work ? Thx .
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| Subject: | 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano |
Hinge)
I'm almost ready to fit the elevator to the piano hinge, which is already
drilled / clecoed to the stabilizer. Once positioned, has anyone found a
good way of "stablizing" the assembly to prevent movement while drilling and
clecoing?
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
601XL - Elevator
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? |
Don't forget, you can order them from Zenith!
Dan Wilde
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox |
Roberto, How can I get a set of those wing tips?
Joe 101HD 601XL/RAM
----- Original Message -----
From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox
Hi Tracy and Guys,
If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy.
Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you.
Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send
some pictures for you too.
See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes,
notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to
built and more safe.
http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/
Rgds,
Roberto Brito.
Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300
Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma.
Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h
Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h
Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm
www.airfox.com.br
Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil.
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| Subject: | Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A |
I Need some advise from the group.
I am going to have a Grand Rapids System EIS, which I know will show the
engine RPM.
I also want to have a "steam gauge" Tachometer as well in the panel in front
of me.
Can someone please give me the manufacturers name and part number of a
suitable 3 1/8 inch Tach that will work with the 2200A. Would really like
one that has a maximum range of 3500 RPM, but any up to 5000 RPM would
probably work OK as well.
Thanks,
George
Building CH701 (N73EX Reserved)
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My Brake design is made to handle material up to 52" after that the
forces are too great and undesired deflection in the bends would appear.
If you have a need for a larger brake then I would suggest Larry
McFarlane's brake plans. For a cost of $35.00 he will send a very nice
set of plans for construction of a 96" brake, I have this brake as well
built from his plans and expanded to 10'.
Best and most economical route is to build the 52" version and gather up
all the material for longer bends and go visit the guy in the EAA
chapter that has that Tool Heaven Garage/Hanger. One afternoon is all
you should need of his 8' brake for your project.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of river1
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:12 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Dynon POH
<pedro@mycingular.blackberry.net>
Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg
that says "unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and
down loaded the brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the
H-stab is over 7' and I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one
for all the bends . It's that ok ? , or it will need too many changes to
make it work ? Thx .
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10/26/2007 8:50 AM
10/26/2007 8:50 AM
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| Subject: | Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP |
There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith Open
Hangar Day.
I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities that
day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to anyone
interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list. A fun way
to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have never been
there. See how many aircraft models you can recognize... and the pilots
that flew in... !
Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to ship
it.
(Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and
others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to make
building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com)
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any update on you 701?
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Hi Tracy, (almost neighbors!)
Hope to be done (701) by year's end (boy isn't that creeping up fast on
us!) but I find no joy in spending time outside once the mercury dips below
40 degrees! So I expect to first fly again sometime in April (when the snow
is gone!)
Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round....
maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real
airstrip! (and in year long warm climates!)
Jon
DO not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy" <pbuttles@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: John Croke
>
> any update on your 701?
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> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
Thanks Mark ; I know that when Larry post he includes a link , anyone reading this
want to throw the link please thx.
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| Subject: | Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A |
Hi George,
I've a GRS EIS system and use a 3-1/8-inch VDO tachometer as well. I
had a UMA that couldn't be made to work
so I went with VDO. The instant read on the GRS is faster on the draw
than the VDO tachometer, but they are about 50 rpm
of agreement with each other almost all of the time. (It's in a Subaru,
but the ignition read should be the same if wired correctly)
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/panelatcruise.gif
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
George Race wrote:
> I Need some advise from the group.
>
> I am going to have a Grand Rapids System EIS, which I know will show
> the engine RPM.
>
> I also want to have a "steam gauge" Tachometer as well in the panel in
> front of me.
>
> Can someone please give me the manufacturers name and part number of a
> suitable 3 1/8 inch Tach that will work with the 2200A. Would really
> like one that has a maximum range of 3500 RPM, but any up to 5000 RPM
> would probably work OK as well.
>
> Thanks,
> George
> Building CH701 (N73EX Reserved)
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it
works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane the other day from 2024t3
.040 10ft long and it did it no problem. I used the 10ft 4x4 angle 1/4in
thick.
David Mikesell
230 Theresa Drive, #6
Cloverdale, CA 95425
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:15 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Larger Brake
>
> My Brake design is made to handle material up to 52" after that the
> forces are too great and undesired deflection in the bends would appear.
> If you have a need for a larger brake then I would suggest Larry
> McFarlane's brake plans. For a cost of $35.00 he will send a very nice
> set of plans for construction of a 96" brake, I have this brake as well
> built from his plans and expanded to 10'.
>
> Best and most economical route is to build the 52" version and gather up
> all the material for longer bends and go visit the guy in the EAA
> chapter that has that Tool Heaven Garage/Hanger. One afternoon is all
> you should need of his 8' brake for your project.
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of river1
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:12 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Dynon POH
>
> <pedro@mycingular.blackberry.net>
>
> Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg
> that says "unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and
> down loaded the brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the
> H-stab is over 7' and I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one
> for all the bends . It's that ok ? , or it will need too many changes to
> make it work ? Thx .
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141970#141970
>
>
> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
>
>
> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP |
Count me in Jon.... and thanks
Ron Leclerc
1 Ballard Crescent
Winnipeg, MB R2V 1K6
Canada
1-204-334-2482
infow@mts.net
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> There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith
> Open Hangar Day.
>
> I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities
> that day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to
> anyone interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list.
> A fun way to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have
> never been there. See how many aircraft models you can
> recognize... and the pilots that flew in... !
>
> Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to
> ship it.
>
> (Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and
> others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to
> make building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com)
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer |
(Piano
As I recall, I fit the two together on a table and after satisfying myself with
the position of the hinge I used side clamps to attach the undrilled side in
place and then pulled the pin out to separate the hinge halves. I then drilled
the hinge starting in the middle and working towards the ends, clecoing as I
went. When finished I chose to store the elevator and horiz. stab separately
so I just slipped the pin back in one side of the hinge.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: 427JV Flying update |
Congrats Juan! You give us all hope that eventually we will be able to share in
the fun.
Just curious, are the speeds you're reporting taken from the airspeed indicator
or are they true air speeds?
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP |
Going out to you this next week.
Thanks!
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From: "R.D.(Ron) Leclerc" <infow@mts.net>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP
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>
> Count me in Jon.... and thanks
> Ron Leclerc
> 1 Ballard Crescent
> Winnipeg, MB R2V 1K6
> Canada
> 1-204-334-2482
> infow@mts.net
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>>
>> There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith
>> Open Hangar Day.
>>
>> I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities
>> that day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to
>> anyone interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list.
>> A fun way to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have
>> never been there. See how many aircraft models you can
>> recognize... and the pilots that flew in... !
>>
>> Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to
>> ship it.
>>
>> (Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and
>> others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to
>> make building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com)
>
>
> --
> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox |
Roberto,
Thank you for the T-shirt at SnF, and yes please send pictures. I may only make
one but I do like the design.
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Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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Hey John
Had not seen an update on your site and wondering how it was coming,
hope you get that flying again.
yes wouldnt we all like to move done there,but I would be enjoying the weather
and not getting any work done!
Tracy
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Many engines are rated 2000 hours before total rebuild. Does that apply
just to the first time it is rebuilt. Can the rebuilt engine go another
2000 hours? How about the 4th or 5th time? Still 2000 hours? And people
say you can buy a Continental 0-200 used. Is there a supplier that sells
used other than Continental? Continental is not very good at using the
internet to promote prices of anything. Thanks for your help.
Darrell Haas
601 XL Dreaming
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The number of hours that you can expect to get out of an engine is subject to a
number of factors which is beyond the scope of this discussion. At my airport
we recently had two engines sent in for overhaul, one after 400 hours, the
other after 600. I had a Lycoming engine that I overhauled at 2100 hours (2nd
overhaul) and I put another 1800 hours on it before I sold it.
If a overhaul is done properly with everything returned to "new" limits you should
be able to get as much time out of it the 2nd, 3rd or ..... time around.
Your accessories will also require overhaul.
If you are looking for used engines you should get your hands on Trade a Plane
or try a site like Barnstormers. Forget about trying to deal directly with Continental.
There are used engines available out there but they will always come
with questions. Unless you have good logs with detailed information including
a parts replaced list, you really can't judge the quality of the work that
was done when an engine was overhauled. When I put a C85 in my Champ a few
years ago, I bought a run-out engine with a good crankcase and went thru it completely
with a mechanic friend of mine. As a result I know what I have and have
faith in it.
If you are looking for a certified engine for an XL you are probably going to want
either a Continental 0-200 or Lycoming 0-235. One nice thing about experimental
aircraft is that you have other engine options available to you.
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox |
Is there a way to translate the web page to English. That's my kind of
canopy. Looks great. Does the divider between the seats and baggage
cover a rops (Roll over protection system)? I personally would like to
have a "hidden hindge" system like the Columbia uses. They had a mock
up showing it at OSH and it had hidden aluminium hindges behind the
instrument panel and nothing outside to leak or look bad. bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox
Hi Tracy and Guys,
If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy.
Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you.
Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send
some pictures for you too.
See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes,
notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to
built and more safe.
http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/
Rgds,
Roberto Brito.
Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300
Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma.
Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h
Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h
Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm
www.airfox.com.br
Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil.
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| Subject: | Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox |
Well, you can try Google/translate:
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
http://tinyurl.com/2kh29n
But I'm getting database errors on the translated and original web
sites.
-- Craig
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Unternaehrer
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox
Is there a way to translate the web page to English. That's my kind of
canopy. Looks great. Does the divider between the seats and baggage
cover
a rops (Roll over protection system)? I personally would like to have a
"hidden hindge" system like the Columbia uses. They had a mock up
showing
it at OSH and it had hidden aluminium hindges behind the instrument
panel
and nothing outside to leak or look bad. bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roberto Ap. <mailto:lenabeto@uol.com.br> Rodrigues de Brito
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox
Hi Tracy and Guys,
If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy.
Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you.
Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send
some
pictures for you too.
See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes,
notice
that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to built
and
more safe.
<http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/>
http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/
Rgds,
Roberto Brito.
Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300
Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma.
Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h
Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h
Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm
www.airfox.com.br
Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron
href
"http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP |
Hello Jon,
Does this video contain footage of the demo flight in the 701?
I am about 50% into my 701 kit project with the help of your DVDs. After watching
Micheal Heintz put that plane through it's paces, I was so pumped up, I felt
like I should buy another one.
See ya,
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R Craig
North Central Arkansas
701 SP Just started.
Do Not Archive
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| From: | "sales@steelframe" <sales@steelframe.com.au> |
| Subject: | Hangar clean out |
I am having a hangar clean out, & have a number of brand new instruments
still in unopened boxes, all are Falcon gauges,
Dual EGT with senders $55, Dual CHT with senders $55,
Sensitive Altimeter 20000ft 2 windows $220
3 1/8 Electric turn coordinator with connector $300
Contact off line, or send me your landline & i shall phone you
Rob Noras
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP |
There is about a minute's worth of that 701 demo flight by Michael... wish I
had more, but you will definitely get the idea that its not your typical
airshow flyby!
do not archive
>
> Hello Jon,
>
> Does this video contain footage of the demo flight in the 701?
>
> I am about 50% into my 701 kit project with the help of your DVDs. After
> watching Micheal Heintz put that plane through it's paces, I was so pumped
> up, I felt like I should buy another one.
>
> See ya,
>
> --------
> R Craig
> North Central Arkansas
> 701 SP Just started.
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142104#142104
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> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Rib Form measurement |
Hi Gang
On the rear ribs, the top, bottom and spar flanges are bent in the same direction
(according to note on the bottom right of 6-W-6). of course they are installed
either facing inboard or outboard as stipulated.
Watching the Metal working DVD I noticed that Rib 3 has the spar flange bent
90 degrees opposite to the rest of the flanges. What other ribs have this?? Not
clear, at least not to me in the plans. Anyone know where this info is??
Actually, I think I am staying up too late at night in the workshop. Sorry for
asking so many questions. Just when I think things are as "clear as mud" I end
up second guessing myself.
Ron
601XL
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