---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/26/07: 35 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:42 AM - Dynon POH (Zodie Rocket) 2. 04:32 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (Bob Unternaehrer) 3. 04:32 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (DaveG601XL) 4. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (steve@cccparis.com) 5. 07:21 AM - Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday (yak52) 6. 08:57 AM - Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito) 7. 09:27 AM - Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (PatrickW) 8. 09:45 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Access (ashontz) 9. 10:02 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Access (ashontz) 10. 10:12 AM - Re: Dynon POH (river1) 11. 11:42 AM - 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano Hinge) (Dave VanLanen) 12. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? (Dan) 13. 12:59 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Southern Reflections) 14. 01:33 PM - Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (George Race) 15. 02:17 PM - Larger Brake (ZodieRocket) 16. 02:28 PM - Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke) 17. 03:03 PM - John Croke (Tracy) 18. 03:26 PM - Re: John Croke (Jon Croke) 19. 03:34 PM - Re: Larger Brake (river1) 20. 04:32 PM - Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (LarryMcFarland) 21. 04:32 PM - Re: Larger Brake (David Mikesell) 22. 04:43 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (R.D.(Ron) Leclerc) 23. 04:54 PM - Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano (Tim Juhl) 24. 04:59 PM - Re: 427JV Flying update (Tim Juhl) 25. 05:06 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke) 26. 05:37 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Ron Lendon) 27. 06:37 PM - Re: John Croke (Tracy) 28. 07:37 PM - 2000 hours (Darrell Haas) 29. 08:07 PM - Re: 2000 hours (Tim Juhl) 30. 09:34 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Bob Unternaehrer) 31. 09:51 PM - Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox (Craig Payne) 32. 10:02 PM - Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (ProWash) 33. 10:24 PM - Hangar clean out (sales@steelframe) 34. 10:32 PM - Re: Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP (Jon Croke) 35. 11:51 PM - Re: Rib Form measurement (rlalonde) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:50 AM PST US From: "Zodie Rocket" Subject: Zenith-List: Dynon POH Has anyone spent the time to do the POH list and checklists in their Dynon 100. IF so please E-Mail me off list at cdngoose@hsfx.ca Thanks cdngoose 2:31 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:08 AM PST US From: "Bob Unternaehrer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? Can you get to the area to use "squeeze or Buck" rivets. They come in "oversize" (slightly) so you don't have to go to the next size. bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: PatrickW To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:25 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? I have some holes (intended for A5 rivets) that are larger than they should be. Usual practice is to "go up to the next sized rivet". I see A4 and A5 rivets available everywhere. But no A6's. Anybody know where I can get good quality A6 rivets...? Thanks, Patrick XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141863#141863 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:08 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? From: "DaveG601XL" Patrick, Aircraft Spruce sells them. -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, tail and wings completed, fueslage almost done, engine next. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141919#141919 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:40 AM PST US From: steve@cccparis.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? Aircraft Spruce AVEX Countersunk 1604-0515 Steve Russell > > > Patrick, > > Aircraft Spruce sells them. > > -------- > David Gallagher > 601 XL, tail and wings completed, > fueslage almost done, engine next. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141919#141919 > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ Powered by Easy Address website manager (http://www.easyaddress.net) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Flew an AMD 601XL yesterday From: "yak52" The decision to go with an 0-200 is based on more factors than cost although: 1.You can buy an 0-200 and rebuild it to specifications that have been proven by over 40 years of flying experience for less than the cost of a new Rotax or Jabiru. 2. Sensenich and other propellor manufacturers will be able to provide you with a propellor specifically for that engine. 3. An 0-200 does not require you to be the test pilot while Rotax and others go through their "teething" problems. 3. Almost any airport with a maintenance facility can and will repair your 0-200 should you need it during cross country flights. Additionally, there is nothing new to "learn" to operate either a Rotax or a Jabiru other than how to get the engine over to the repair facility during its "teething" problems. Cessna's decision to use the Continental came after the airplane was taken around the airshow circuit with a Rotax and seeking pilot input as to their preference for the engine. Cessna wanted the Rotax, but the people who were going to fly and maintain them wanted the Continental. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141938#141938 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:54 AM PST US From: "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Hi Tracy and Guys, If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy. Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you. Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send some pictures for you too. See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes, notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to built and more safe. http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/ Rgds, Roberto Brito. Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300 Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma. Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm www.airfox.com.br Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:16 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? From: "PatrickW" Bingo! Thanks. Here's what I did: I went to www.aircraftspruce.com Did "search" on "AVEX". Looked at the list, and saw "1604-0615" which is Countersunk 3/16" Avex rivets. Ordered a couple hundred, along with some other stuff I needed. Thanks, Patrick XL/Corvair Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141957#141957 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:57 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Instrument Panel Access From: "ashontz" Tony, how much did you pay for that Garmin GPS-295? Funny thing is, it looks IDENTICAL to the Garmin Street Pilot I bought at a yardsale last month for $20 (yes, twenty dollars), and it works fine. Obviously they're using the same case and just uploading a different program and database to the two. I wonder if there's some way to get a new programmed chip for my unit, or install a new software package in my yardsale unit and use that when it comes time. I see the new Garmin 296 is going for $1,200. [quote="tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne"]John, One of the BEST decisions I made was to make the fwd top skin removable. I used rivnuts and 6-32 SS screws. Others have used nutplates and J clips?? etc. With the skin removed, you have access not only to the instrument panel, but to the inside fwd firewall, rudder peddles and cables, steering rods, brakes, etc. Also, I have removal of the top skin part of my annual condition inspection to check wiring, and other areas under the instrument panel that would be a real problem to inspect with the skin in place. I also have a removable panel aft of the canopy "line" on the top skin. On it, I have provisions to mount 1 or 2 Garmin GPSs (One for the pilots side and one for my spouse's side) and have also mounted a vertical compass card.. Coming through this panel I have compass lighting wiring and hard wiring for the GPS's through grommeted holes that have a slots leading to the holes from the edge of the panel.. When I remove the top skin, I remove this panel first and can leave the wiring intact by passing it through the slot. You can see my instrument panel at http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo79.html (http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/6-photo79.html) (Zenith Photo Library #79) as originally finished, but since I have added some "Stuff" , such as a switch and a blinking light to show "Wig-wag" taxi/landing lights, another switch to use either Garmin GPS to drive my AP, a light to show when I have the aux fuel pump on, a Tru-Track T&B, and ... I really like what you can easily do with your airplane when it is "Experimental". If I had to drill out the top skin rivets to gain access to the instrument panel aft areas, it would not be as much fun and also I believe would result in a real mess to clean up. Tony Graziano XL/Jab3300; N493TG; 304 hrs --------------- Subject: Instrument Panel Access From: John Davis (johnd@data-tech.com (johnd@data-tech.com?subject=Re:%20Instrument%20Panel%20Access&replyto=470D085D.6000304@data-tech.com)) Date: [b]Wed Oct 10 - 10:30 AM[/b] > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm just wrapping up my electrical work and am getting close to putting > > on the front skin over the panel area. Riveting it per the factory seems > > to be a poor choice since I wont have any easy access to the rear of the > > panel. > > > > So it seems like the options are: > > > > A) Install nutplates or similar and make the entire skin removable. As I > > have a QB kit their are already 90+ rivet holes that would have to be > > fitted, so thats a lot of work. > > > > B) Install the skin permanently but add a couple of access panels on the > > top. Seems like several folks on the list are doing this. My only > > concern with this approach would be water leaking under the access > > panel. Any ideas as to how to prevent/avoid this issue ? > > > > Your thoughts/Ideas ? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > John Davis > > Burnsville, NC > > 601XL QB - Jab 3300 > > > > [b] -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141960#141960 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Instrument Panel Access From: "ashontz" Well, apparently there is no way to upgrade a Street Pilot to a 295 (http://www.cockpitgps.com/cpgpsweb/cockpitgps.htm). That would have been sweet. Oh well, I'm sure someone is capable of it, but not worth my researching it. Interesting website though. -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141965#141965 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:26 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Dynon POH From: "river1" Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg that says "unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and down loaded the brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the H-stab is over 7' and I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one for all the bends . It's that ok ? , or it will need too many changes to make it work ? Thx . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141970#141970 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:06 AM PST US From: "Dave VanLanen" Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano Hinge) I'm almost ready to fit the elevator to the piano hinge, which is already drilled / clecoed to the stabilizer. Once positioned, has anyone found a good way of "stablizing" the assembly to prevent movement while drilling and clecoing? Thanks, Dave Van Lanen Madison, WI 601XL - Elevator ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:43 PM PST US From: Dan Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Where to buy A6 Rivets...? Don't forget, you can order them from Zenith! Dan Wilde ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:03 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Roberto, How can I get a set of those wing tips? Joe 101HD 601XL/RAM ----- Original Message ----- From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Hi Tracy and Guys, If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy. Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you. Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send some pictures for you too. See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes, notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to built and more safe. http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/ Rgds, Roberto Brito. Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300 Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma. Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm www.airfox.com.br Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:44 PM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A I Need some advise from the group. I am going to have a Grand Rapids System EIS, which I know will show the engine RPM. I also want to have a "steam gauge" Tachometer as well in the panel in front of me. Can someone please give me the manufacturers name and part number of a suitable 3 1/8 inch Tach that will work with the 2200A. Would really like one that has a maximum range of 3500 RPM, but any up to 5000 RPM would probably work OK as well. Thanks, George Building CH701 (N73EX Reserved) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:10 PM PST US From: "ZodieRocket" Subject: Zenith-List: Larger Brake My Brake design is made to handle material up to 52" after that the forces are too great and undesired deflection in the bends would appear. If you have a need for a larger brake then I would suggest Larry McFarlane's brake plans. For a cost of $35.00 he will send a very nice set of plans for construction of a 96" brake, I have this brake as well built from his plans and expanded to 10'. Best and most economical route is to build the 52" version and gather up all the material for longer bends and go visit the guy in the EAA chapter that has that Tool Heaven Garage/Hanger. One afternoon is all you should need of his 8' brake for your project. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of river1 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Dynon POH Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg that says "unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and down loaded the brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the H-stab is over 7' and I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one for all the bends . It's that ok ? , or it will need too many changes to make it work ? Thx . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141970#141970 10/26/2007 8:50 AM 10/26/2007 8:50 AM ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:54 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith Open Hangar Day. I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities that day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to anyone interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list. A fun way to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have never been there. See how many aircraft models you can recognize... and the pilots that flew in... ! Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to ship it. (Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to make building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:42 PM PST US From: Tracy Subject: Zenith-List: John Croke any update on you 701? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:07 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: John Croke Hi Tracy, (almost neighbors!) Hope to be done (701) by year's end (boy isn't that creeping up fast on us!) but I find no joy in spending time outside once the mercury dips below 40 degrees! So I expect to first fly again sometime in April (when the snow is gone!) Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round.... maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real airstrip! (and in year long warm climates!) Jon DO not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: Zenith-List: John Croke > > any update on your 701? > > > -- > 10/26/2007 8:50 AM > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:27 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Larger Brake From: "river1" Thanks Mark ; I know that when Larry post he includes a link , anyone reading this want to throw the link please thx. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142039#142039 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:16 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A Hi George, I've a GRS EIS system and use a 3-1/8-inch VDO tachometer as well. I had a UMA that couldn't be made to work so I went with VDO. The instant read on the GRS is faster on the draw than the VDO tachometer, but they are about 50 rpm of agreement with each other almost all of the time. (It's in a Subaru, but the ignition read should be the same if wired correctly) http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/panelatcruise.gif Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com George Race wrote: > I Need some advise from the group. > > I am going to have a Grand Rapids System EIS, which I know will show > the engine RPM. > > I also want to have a "steam gauge" Tachometer as well in the panel in > front of me. > > Can someone please give me the manufacturers name and part number of a > suitable 3 1/8 inch Tach that will work with the 2200A. Would really > like one that has a maximum range of 3500 RPM, but any up to 5000 RPM > would probably work OK as well. > > Thanks, > George > Building CH701 (N73EX Reserved) > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:16 PM PST US From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Larger Brake I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane the other day from 2024t3 .040 10ft long and it did it no problem. I used the 10ft 4x4 angle 1/4in thick. David Mikesell 230 Theresa Drive, #6 Cloverdale, CA 95425 209-224-4485 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "ZodieRocket" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Larger Brake > > My Brake design is made to handle material up to 52" after that the > forces are too great and undesired deflection in the bends would appear. > If you have a need for a larger brake then I would suggest Larry > McFarlane's brake plans. For a cost of $35.00 he will send a very nice > set of plans for construction of a 96" brake, I have this brake as well > built from his plans and expanded to 10'. > > Best and most economical route is to build the 52" version and gather up > all the material for longer bends and go visit the guy in the EAA > chapter that has that Tool Heaven Garage/Hanger. One afternoon is all > you should need of his 8' brake for your project. > > Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario > Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started > www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of river1 > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:12 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Dynon POH > > > > Mark ; I was trying to contact you off list but couldn't , receive msg > that says "unable to deliver" . I bought Jon's scratch build video and > down loaded the brake plans . I am going to scratch build the 701 , the > H-stab is over 7' and I thought about "stretching" the brake to have one > for all the bends . It's that ok ? , or it will need too many changes to > make it work ? Thx . > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=141970#141970 > > > 10/26/2007 8:50 AM > > > 10/26/2007 8:50 AM > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:48 PM PST US From: "R.D.(Ron) Leclerc" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP Count me in Jon.... and thanks Ron Leclerc 1 Ballard Crescent Winnipeg, MB R2V 1K6 Canada 1-204-334-2482 infow@mts.net 10/26/2007 *************************************** This E-Mail scanned with AVG Anti-Virus Ver: 7.5! *************************************** > > There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith > Open Hangar Day. > > I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities > that day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to > anyone interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list. > A fun way to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have > never been there. See how many aircraft models you can > recognize... and the pilots that flew in... ! > > Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to > ship it. > > (Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and > others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to > make building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com) ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:54:54 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano From: "Tim Juhl" As I recall, I fit the two together on a table and after satisfying myself with the position of the hinge I used side clamps to attach the undrilled side in place and then pulled the pin out to separate the hinge halves. I then drilled the hinge starting in the middle and working towards the ends, clecoing as I went. When finished I chose to store the elevator and horiz. stab separately so I just slipped the pin back in one side of the hinge. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142054#142054 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:42 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 427JV Flying update From: "Tim Juhl" Congrats Juan! You give us all hope that eventually we will be able to share in the fun. Just curious, are the speeds you're reporting taken from the airspeed indicator or are they true air speeds? Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142056#142056 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:21 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP Going out to you this next week. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.D.(Ron) Leclerc" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP > > > Count me in Jon.... and thanks > Ron Leclerc > 1 Ballard Crescent > Winnipeg, MB R2V 1K6 > Canada > 1-204-334-2482 > infow@mts.net > 10/26/2007 > *************************************** > This E-Mail scanned with AVG Anti-Virus Ver: 7.5! > *************************************** > >> >> There were easily several hunderd people at last month's Zenith >> Open Hangar Day. >> >> I shot some video of the people, aircraft, and hangar activities >> that day and have a DVD video that I would be happy to send to >> anyone interested (free, no charge) on the Matronics Zenith list. >> A fun way to see what Zenith headquarters looks like, if you have >> never been there. See how many aircraft models you can >> recognize... and the pilots that flew in... ! >> >> Just email me your address (off list! jon@joncroke.com) where to >> ship it. >> >> (Just a small token to say thanks to those that have helped me and >> others in this hobby thru their sharing of time and knowledge to >> make building an aircraft possible - from www.HomebuiltHELP.com) > > > -- > 10/26/2007 8:50 AM > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:29 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox From: "Ron Lendon" Roberto, Thank you for the T-shirt at SnF, and yes please send pictures. I may only make one but I do like the design. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142069#142069 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:53 PM PST US From: Tracy Subject: Zenith-List: Re: John Croke Hey John Had not seen an update on your site and wondering how it was coming, hope you get that flying again. yes wouldnt we all like to move done there,but I would be enjoying the weather and not getting any work done! Tracy ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:47 PM PST US From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 hours Many engines are rated 2000 hours before total rebuild. Does that apply just to the first time it is rebuilt. Can the rebuilt engine go another 2000 hours? How about the 4th or 5th time? Still 2000 hours? And people say you can buy a Continental 0-200 used. Is there a supplier that sells used other than Continental? Continental is not very good at using the internet to promote prices of anything. Thanks for your help. Darrell Haas 601 XL Dreaming ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 2000 hours From: "Tim Juhl" The number of hours that you can expect to get out of an engine is subject to a number of factors which is beyond the scope of this discussion. At my airport we recently had two engines sent in for overhaul, one after 400 hours, the other after 600. I had a Lycoming engine that I overhauled at 2100 hours (2nd overhaul) and I put another 1800 hours on it before I sold it. If a overhaul is done properly with everything returned to "new" limits you should be able to get as much time out of it the 2nd, 3rd or ..... time around. Your accessories will also require overhaul. If you are looking for used engines you should get your hands on Trade a Plane or try a site like Barnstormers. Forget about trying to deal directly with Continental. There are used engines available out there but they will always come with questions. Unless you have good logs with detailed information including a parts replaced list, you really can't judge the quality of the work that was done when an engine was overhauled. When I put a C85 in my Champ a few years ago, I bought a run-out engine with a good crankcase and went thru it completely with a mechanic friend of mine. As a result I know what I have and have faith in it. If you are looking for a certified engine for an XL you are probably going to want either a Continental 0-200 or Lycoming 0-235. One nice thing about experimental aircraft is that you have other engine options available to you. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142091#142091 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:44 PM PST US From: "Bob Unternaehrer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Is there a way to translate the web page to English. That's my kind of canopy. Looks great. Does the divider between the seats and baggage cover a rops (Roll over protection system)? I personally would like to have a "hidden hindge" system like the Columbia uses. They had a mock up showing it at OSH and it had hidden aluminium hindges behind the instrument panel and nothing outside to leak or look bad. bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Hi Tracy and Guys, If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy. Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you. Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send some pictures for you too. See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes, notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to built and more safe. http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/ Rgds, Roberto Brito. Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300 Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma. Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm www.airfox.com.br Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil. ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:46 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Well, you can try Google/translate: http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en http://tinyurl.com/2kh29n But I'm getting database errors on the translated and original web sites. -- Craig _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Unternaehrer Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Is there a way to translate the web page to English. That's my kind of canopy. Looks great. Does the divider between the seats and baggage cover a rops (Roll over protection system)? I personally would like to have a "hidden hindge" system like the Columbia uses. They had a mock up showing it at OSH and it had hidden aluminium hindges behind the instrument panel and nothing outside to leak or look bad. bob U. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL 601 by Airfox Hi Tracy and Guys, If you want, I can send some pictures to you about this canopy. Send me a e-mail in private to lenabeto@uol.com.br and I send for you. Ron Lendon, you can "steal" my design, no problem, if you want I send some pictures for you too. See this Zodiac XL 601 TD that I bulit for my friend Ricardo Lopes, notice that the door is diferent, I changed because I think is easier to built and more safe. http://portal.ucpel.tche.br/py3vhq/home/Zodiac/ Rgds, Roberto Brito. Zodiac XL 601-Jab 3300 Woodcomp 3300 - Enigma. Cruise speed / 3000rpm / 6000ft 140 mp/h Stall speed flap down 38/39 mp/h Rate of climb - 1 person - 24 gallons - 1200fpm www.airfox.com.br Atibaia - S=E3o Paulo - Brazil. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:41 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP From: "ProWash" Hello Jon, Does this video contain footage of the demo flight in the 701? I am about 50% into my 701 kit project with the help of your DVDs. After watching Micheal Heintz put that plane through it's paces, I was so pumped up, I felt like I should buy another one. See ya, -------- R Craig North Central Arkansas 701 SP Just started. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142104#142104 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:21 PM PST US From: "sales@steelframe" Subject: Zenith-List: Hangar clean out I am having a hangar clean out, & have a number of brand new instruments still in unopened boxes, all are Falcon gauges, Dual EGT with senders $55, Dual CHT with senders $55, Sensitive Altimeter 20000ft 2 windows $220 3 1/8 Electric turn coordinator with connector $300 Contact off line, or send me your landline & i shall phone you Rob Noras ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 10:32:40 PM PST US From: "Jon Croke" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Hangar Day Video from HomebuiltHELP There is about a minute's worth of that 701 demo flight by Michael... wish I had more, but you will definitely get the idea that its not your typical airshow flyby! do not archive > > Hello Jon, > > Does this video contain footage of the demo flight in the 701? > > I am about 50% into my 701 kit project with the help of your DVDs. After > watching Micheal Heintz put that plane through it's paces, I was so pumped > up, I felt like I should buy another one. > > See ya, > > -------- > R Craig > North Central Arkansas > 701 SP Just started. > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142104#142104 > > > -- > 10/26/2007 8:50 AM > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rib Form measurement From: "rlalonde" Hi Gang On the rear ribs, the top, bottom and spar flanges are bent in the same direction (according to note on the bottom right of 6-W-6). of course they are installed either facing inboard or outboard as stipulated. Watching the Metal working DVD I noticed that Rib 3 has the spar flange bent 90 degrees opposite to the rest of the flanges. What other ribs have this?? Not clear, at least not to me in the plans. Anyone know where this info is?? Actually, I think I am staying up too late at night in the workshop. Sorry for asking so many questions. Just when I think things are as "clear as mud" I end up second guessing myself. 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