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     2. 04:14 AM - Re: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
     3. 04:49 AM - Re: 2000 hours (Clyde Barcus)
     4. 05:09 AM - Re: John Croke (Ken Arnold)
     5. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (P... (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
     6. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) (Dennis Shoup)
     7. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: 427JV Flying update (Juan Vega)
     8. 10:29 AM - Proseal Use (Dan)
     9. 11:18 AM - Re: Rib Form measurement (Maarten Versteeg)
    10. 11:20 AM - Re: Proseal Use (Carlos Sa)
    11. 11:27 AM - new 912uls for sale with prop (SUE MICHAELS)
    12. 05:07 PM - Re: Larger Brake (ashontz)
    13. 05:52 PM - Re: Dynon POH (Dave Thompson)
    14. 05:55 PM - Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (Dave Thompson)
    15. 06:46 PM - Do You Have Plans for Sale (Dave Williams)
    16. 07:55 PM - Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale (Southern Reflections)
    17. 08:09 PM - Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale (Gig Giacona)
 
 
 
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      From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
      
      
      >Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round.... 
      >maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real 
      >airstrip!  (and in year long warm climates!)
      >
      >Jon
      >
      >DO not Archive
      
      
      Jon,  Try RWJairpark.com   (K54T) Still lots of places on the Texas coast where
      you can land on the beach, winters are great, of course you still have to put
      up with the heat and humidity in the summer.
      LOW&SLOW   John
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) | 
      
      Hey Guys: I have a Lycoming O-235 that I want to sell. It is complete, and  
      when I find the log book I can give the exact times, but as I remember it has 
      
      less than 2000 hrs, with less than 500 since major overhaul.
      This engine has no damage, came out of a PA-12 being upgraded to an O-320,  
      and for an extra few hundred dollars I can include the propeller which has less
      
       than 10 hours SMOH. $3,450 and you pick it up here in Frostproof, FL.
      Lynn Nelsen
      601 HD 145 hrs.
      
      
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      I bought a used O-200 complete from Wentworth Aircraft Salvage 
      guaranteed to be rebuildable, sometimes they have used engines at 
      reasonable prices and I think they are good to work with. I bought a 
      high time engine that I intend to rebuild with the help of an A & P that 
      belongs to the same EAA Chapter I do. There are others in the same 
      business but I suggest you ask around to make sure they are not a 
      fly-by-night operation. I also spoke to Continental about parts, they 
      have complete cylinder kits (cylinders, gaskets, pistons, rings, etc.) 
      priced at a total $4068.62 for all 4 cylinders and $932.18 for the 
      bottom end kits. Wentworth also gave me a lead on a small company that 
      rebuilds cylinders, their prices for rebuildable cylinders range from 
      $325 per cylinder to $600 for one that needs chromed.
      
      
      Clyde Barcus
      601 XL, Continental Powered
      Wings, Tail & Engine Complete
      Working on Fuselage
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Darrell Haas 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:35 PM
        Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 hours
      
      
        Many engines are rated 2000 hours before total rebuild. Does that 
      apply just to the first time it is rebuilt. Can the rebuilt engine go 
      another 2000 hours? How about the 4th or 5th time? Still 2000 hours? And 
      people say you can buy a Continental 0-200 used. Is there a supplier 
      that sells used other than Continental? Continental is not very good at 
      using the internet to promote prices of anything. Thanks for your help.
        Darrell Haas
        601 XL Dreaming
      
      
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      Jon,
      Take a look at Goldsboro, NC.  GWW on your sectional.  About 1/2 way between 
      the beach and mountains of NC.  Good WX, good people and lots of grass 
      strips.
      Ken
      CH701 81%  N701LK
      
      do not archive
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
      Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:21 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: John Croke
      
      
      >
      > Hi Tracy, (almost neighbors!)
      >
      > Hope to be done (701) by year's end  (boy isn't that creeping up fast on 
      > us!) but I find no joy in spending time outside once the mercury dips 
      > below 40 degrees!  So I expect to first fly again sometime in April (when 
      > the snow is gone!)
      >
      > Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round.... 
      > maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real 
      > airstrip!  (and in year long warm climates!)
      >
      > Jon
      >
      > DO not Archive
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Tracy" <pbuttles@charter.net>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:02 PM
      > Subject: Zenith-List: John Croke
      >
      >
      >>
      >> any update on your 701?
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> -- 
      >> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer | 
      (P...
      
      I would leave the hinge attached to the elevator and slide the hinge under  
      the skin and place a strip of .025 between the hinge and the horizontal  
      stabilizer then push the elevator tight and rivet from the center out. If you 
      take 
      the hinge apart you could inadvertently get the hinge slightly off and  cause 
      it to have a slight bind.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) | 
      
      On 10/27/07, IFLYSMODEL@aol.com <IFLYSMODEL@aol.com> wrote:
      >
      >  Hey Guys: I have a Lycoming O-235 that I want to sell. It is complete,
      > and when I find the log book I can give the exact times, but as I remember
      > it has less than 2000 hrs, with less than 500 since major overhaul.
      > This engine has no damage, came out of a PA-12 being upgraded to an O-320,
      > and for an extra few hundred dollars I can include the propeller which has
      > less than 10 hours SMOH. $3,450 and you pick it up here in Frostproof, FL.
      > Lynn Nelsen
      > 601 HD 145 hrs.
      >
      >
      >  ------------------------------
      > See w
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 427JV Flying update | 
      
      
      Taken from True airspeed as well as ground speed on GPS.  it was a flat calm day
      in ambient temp a 
      Juan
      -----Original Message-----
      >From: Tim Juhl <juhl@avci.net>
      >Sent: Oct 26, 2007 7:59 PM
      >To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 427JV Flying update
      >
      >
      >Congrats Juan!  You give us all hope that eventually we will be able to share
      in the fun.
      >
      >Just curious, are the speeds you're reporting taken from the airspeed indicator
      or are they true air speeds?
      >
      >Tim
      >
      >--------
      >______________
      >CFII
      >Champ L16A flying
      >Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      >Working on wings
      >
      >
      >Read this topic online here:
      >
      >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142056#142056
      >
      >
      
      
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      I just received from Wicks the $15 sealant kit for a couple of small 
      holes I needed filled.  However, I do have some questions.
      
      Should there not be instructions included?  I did a search of the 
      matronics list and there are lots of info on the stuff but no 
      information on mixing ratios or application.
      I ended up mixing it at a ratio of 10 to 1 based on technical data I 
      found and just slathering the product into the hole.  Is there more to 
      it than this?
      
      Dan Wilde
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rib Form measurement | 
      
      
      Hello Ron,
      
      I don't know which flanges you are referring to, I finished
      all ribs and am assembling the wing, but all flanges on each
      of the ribs are bend in the same direction. Rib 4 is different
      in the sense that the left and right rib are swapped so the
      wing locker has the smooth side. Also on the rib with the
      bell-crank the flanges for the two rear lightening holes are
      in the opposite direction.
      This is the way I did all, did I do it wrong or .......
      
      Regards,
      	Maarten
               601XL - plans building wings
      
      > Time: 11:51:14 PM PST US
      > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rib Form measurement
      > From: "rlalonde" <rlalonde@HOTMAIL.COM>
      > 
      > Hi Gang
      >  On the rear ribs, the top, bottom and spar flanges are bent in the same direction
      > (according to note on the bottom right of 6-W-6). of course they are installed
      > either facing inboard or outboard as stipulated.
      > 
      >   Watching the Metal working DVD I noticed that Rib 3 has the spar flange bent
      > 90 degrees opposite to the rest of the flanges. What other ribs have this?? Not
      > clear, at least not to me in the plans. Anyone know where this info is?? 
      >   Actually, I think I am staying up too late at night in the workshop. Sorry
      for
      > asking so many questions. Just when I think things are as "clear as mud" I end
      > up second guessing myself.
      > Ron
      > 601XL
      
      
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      Dan, I uaed proseal many months ago, but there were instructions on the
      cans.
      If I remember well, the ratio was indeed 10 to 1, based o weight (not
      volume).
      I bought the product from AS&S.
      
      Carlos
      
      On 27/10/2007, Dan <dwilde@clearwire.net> wrote:
      >
      >
      > I just received from Wicks the $15 sealant kit for a couple of small
      > holes I needed filled.  However, I do have some questions.
      >
      > Should there not be instructions included?  I did a search of the
      > matronics list and there are lots of info on the stuff but no
      > information on mixing ratios or application.
      > I ended up mixing it at a ratio of 10 to 1 based on technical data I
      > found and just slathering the product into the hole.  Is there more to
      > it than this?
      >
      > Dan Wilde
      
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| Subject:  | new 912uls for sale with prop | 
      
       have an 912uls up for sale that has near everthing you need for the kitfox setup.
      Only a couple items keeping but you may find through this Kitfox list.   
      
        I believe the Rotax 912uls was built in Mid 2005 (still checking exact date)
      new and has never been started. When I bought the complete Kitfox 7 kit there
      was with very little work completed. Two items not included with the sale are
      the oil tank and radiator. 
         
        Included is a complete 912uls, carb heat air intake box, drip pans for carbs,
      rectifier,
        electrical component and high performance exhaust system, Rotax engine ring mount,
      throttle cable with split feeds to each carb, choke cable split feeds and
      other odd and ends that I may find. Also a new 70" carbon fiber 3 blade warp
      drive prop with optional 2" prop spacer,  aluminum spinner and backing plate
      and the protractor to adjust blade angles.
         
        Sell all for13,500
         
        George
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Larger Brake | 
      
      
      Dave's brake looks excellent for any length spar you want. The only problem with
      that brake is that it won't do a deep skin. Mine will, but it will only do a
      piece of .040 up to about 6' before it's pushing it. I should draw up and post
      some plans of my brake. Personally, I thought designing and building a suitable
      bending brake on the cheap was one of the hardest parts of building a plane.
      There's actually a lot involved in making what would seem to be a simple bend
      in aluminum.
      
      
      skyguynca wrote:
      > I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it 
      > works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane the other day from 2024t3 
      > .040 10ft long and it did it no problem. I used the 10ft 4x4 angle 1/4in 
      > thick.
      > 
      > David Mikesell
      > 230 Theresa Drive, #6
      > Cloverdale, CA 95425
      > 209-224-4485
      > skyguynca@skyguynca.com
      > www.skyguynca.com
      > ---
      
      
      --------
      Andy Shontz
      CH601XL - Corvair
      www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142213#142213
      
      
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      I downloaded Mark's brake plans and made a parts list. I am not building but
      have the list. It is at work right now but I'll be glad to send it to you if
      you want it.
      
      
      Later,
      
      
      Dave Thompson
      
      Dave.thompson@verizon.net
      
      Westminster, California
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A | 
      
      Try the following link, very well made instruments for the price. 
      
      
      http://autometer.com/cat_gaugeop.aspx?sid=12
      
      
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| Subject:  | Do You Have Plans for Sale | 
      
      
      Looking for a set of plans for the 601xl.  I have been lurking for a while(2yrs)
      and am ready to take the plunge and buy a set of plans. If you are not going
      to build lets make a deal.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142230#142230
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale | 
      
      
      Sorry they are gone,but thanks for the inquire.        Joe N101HD
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dave Williams" <dawadw@msn.com>
      Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:43 PM
      Subject: Zenith-List: Do You Have Plans for Sale
      
      
      >
      > Looking for a set of plans for the 601xl.  I have been lurking for a 
      > while(2yrs) and am ready to take the plunge and buy a set of plans. If you 
      > are not going to build lets make a deal.
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142230#142230
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale | 
      
      
      Here's a link to a set I saw for sale.
      
      http://tinyurl.com/lbd26
      
      --------
      W.R. "Gig" Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142253#142253
      
      
 
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