---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 10/27/07: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:14 AM - Re: John Croke (Bolding) 2. 04:14 AM - Re: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com) 3. 04:49 AM - Re: 2000 hours (Clyde Barcus) 4. 05:09 AM - Re: John Croke (Ken Arnold) 5. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (P... (Afterfxllc@aol.com) 6. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) (Dennis Shoup) 7. 08:12 AM - Re: Re: 427JV Flying update (Juan Vega) 8. 10:29 AM - Proseal Use (Dan) 9. 11:18 AM - Re: Rib Form measurement (Maarten Versteeg) 10. 11:20 AM - Re: Proseal Use (Carlos Sa) 11. 11:27 AM - new 912uls for sale with prop (SUE MICHAELS) 12. 05:07 PM - Re: Larger Brake (ashontz) 13. 05:52 PM - Re: Dynon POH (Dave Thompson) 14. 05:55 PM - Re: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A (Dave Thompson) 15. 06:46 PM - Do You Have Plans for Sale (Dave Williams) 16. 07:55 PM - Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale (Southern Reflections) 17. 08:09 PM - Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale (Gig Giacona) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:27 AM PST US From: "Bolding" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: John Croke From: "Jon Croke" >Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round.... >maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real >airstrip! (and in year long warm climates!) > >Jon > >DO not Archive Jon, Try RWJairpark.com (K54T) Still lots of places on the Texas coast where you can land on the beach, winters are great, of course you still have to put up with the heat and humidity in the summer. LOW&SLOW John ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:28 AM PST US From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) Hey Guys: I have a Lycoming O-235 that I want to sell. It is complete, and when I find the log book I can give the exact times, but as I remember it has less than 2000 hrs, with less than 500 since major overhaul. This engine has no damage, came out of a PA-12 being upgraded to an O-320, and for an extra few hundred dollars I can include the propeller which has less than 10 hours SMOH. $3,450 and you pick it up here in Frostproof, FL. Lynn Nelsen 601 HD 145 hrs. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:56 AM PST US From: "Clyde Barcus" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 2000 hours I bought a used O-200 complete from Wentworth Aircraft Salvage guaranteed to be rebuildable, sometimes they have used engines at reasonable prices and I think they are good to work with. I bought a high time engine that I intend to rebuild with the help of an A & P that belongs to the same EAA Chapter I do. There are others in the same business but I suggest you ask around to make sure they are not a fly-by-night operation. I also spoke to Continental about parts, they have complete cylinder kits (cylinders, gaskets, pistons, rings, etc.) priced at a total $4068.62 for all 4 cylinders and $932.18 for the bottom end kits. Wentworth also gave me a lead on a small company that rebuilds cylinders, their prices for rebuildable cylinders range from $325 per cylinder to $600 for one that needs chromed. Clyde Barcus 601 XL, Continental Powered Wings, Tail & Engine Complete Working on Fuselage ----- Original Message ----- From: Darrell Haas To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 hours Many engines are rated 2000 hours before total rebuild. Does that apply just to the first time it is rebuilt. Can the rebuilt engine go another 2000 hours? How about the 4th or 5th time? Still 2000 hours? And people say you can buy a Continental 0-200 used. Is there a supplier that sells used other than Continental? Continental is not very good at using the internet to promote prices of anything. Thanks for your help. Darrell Haas 601 XL Dreaming ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:32 AM PST US From: "Ken Arnold" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: John Croke Jon, Take a look at Goldsboro, NC. GWW on your sectional. About 1/2 way between the beach and mountains of NC. Good WX, good people and lots of grass strips. Ken CH701 81% N701LK do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Croke" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: John Croke > > Hi Tracy, (almost neighbors!) > > Hope to be done (701) by year's end (boy isn't that creeping up fast on > us!) but I find no joy in spending time outside once the mercury dips > below 40 degrees! So I expect to first fly again sometime in April (when > the snow is gone!) > > Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year round.... > maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a real > airstrip! (and in year long warm climates!) > > Jon > > DO not Archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracy" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 5:02 PM > Subject: Zenith-List: John Croke > > >> >> any update on your 701? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 10/26/2007 8:50 AM >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:08 AM PST US From: Afterfxllc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (P... I would leave the hinge attached to the elevator and slide the hinge under the skin and place a strip of .025 between the hinge and the horizontal stabilizer then push the elevator tight and rivet from the center out. If you take the hinge apart you could inadvertently get the hinge slightly off and cause it to have a slight bind. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:44 AM PST US From: "Dennis Shoup" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 2000 hours (Engine for sale) On 10/27/07, IFLYSMODEL@aol.com wrote: > > Hey Guys: I have a Lycoming O-235 that I want to sell. It is complete, > and when I find the log book I can give the exact times, but as I remember > it has less than 2000 hrs, with less than 500 since major overhaul. > This engine has no damage, came out of a PA-12 being upgraded to an O-320, > and for an extra few hundred dollars I can include the propeller which has > less than 10 hours SMOH. $3,450 and you pick it up here in Frostproof, FL. > Lynn Nelsen > 601 HD 145 hrs. > > > ------------------------------ > See w > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:02 AM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 427JV Flying update Taken from True airspeed as well as ground speed on GPS. it was a flat calm day in ambient temp a Juan -----Original Message----- >From: Tim Juhl >Sent: Oct 26, 2007 7:59 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 427JV Flying update > > >Congrats Juan! You give us all hope that eventually we will be able to share in the fun. > >Just curious, are the speeds you're reporting taken from the airspeed indicator or are they true air speeds? > >Tim > >-------- >______________ >CFII >Champ L16A flying >Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A >Working on wings > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142056#142056 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:00 AM PST US From: Dan Subject: Zenith-List: Proseal Use I just received from Wicks the $15 sealant kit for a couple of small holes I needed filled. However, I do have some questions. Should there not be instructions included? I did a search of the matronics list and there are lots of info on the stuff but no information on mixing ratios or application. I ended up mixing it at a ratio of 10 to 1 based on technical data I found and just slathering the product into the hole. Is there more to it than this? Dan Wilde ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:05 AM PST US From: Maarten Versteeg Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rib Form measurement Hello Ron, I don't know which flanges you are referring to, I finished all ribs and am assembling the wing, but all flanges on each of the ribs are bend in the same direction. Rib 4 is different in the sense that the left and right rib are swapped so the wing locker has the smooth side. Also on the rib with the bell-crank the flanges for the two rear lightening holes are in the opposite direction. This is the way I did all, did I do it wrong or ....... Regards, Maarten 601XL - plans building wings > Time: 11:51:14 PM PST US > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rib Form measurement > From: "rlalonde" > > Hi Gang > On the rear ribs, the top, bottom and spar flanges are bent in the same direction > (according to note on the bottom right of 6-W-6). of course they are installed > either facing inboard or outboard as stipulated. > > Watching the Metal working DVD I noticed that Rib 3 has the spar flange bent > 90 degrees opposite to the rest of the flanges. What other ribs have this?? Not > clear, at least not to me in the plans. Anyone know where this info is?? > Actually, I think I am staying up too late at night in the workshop. Sorry for > asking so many questions. Just when I think things are as "clear as mud" I end > up second guessing myself. > Ron > 601XL ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:20:24 AM PST US From: "Carlos Sa" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Proseal Use Dan, I uaed proseal many months ago, but there were instructions on the cans. If I remember well, the ratio was indeed 10 to 1, based o weight (not volume). I bought the product from AS&S. Carlos On 27/10/2007, Dan wrote: > > > I just received from Wicks the $15 sealant kit for a couple of small > holes I needed filled. However, I do have some questions. > > Should there not be instructions included? I did a search of the > matronics list and there are lots of info on the stuff but no > information on mixing ratios or application. > I ended up mixing it at a ratio of 10 to 1 based on technical data I > found and just slathering the product into the hole. Is there more to > it than this? > > Dan Wilde ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:00 AM PST US From: SUE MICHAELS Subject: Zenith-List: new 912uls for sale with prop have an 912uls up for sale that has near everthing you need for the kitfox setup. Only a couple items keeping but you may find through this Kitfox list. I believe the Rotax 912uls was built in Mid 2005 (still checking exact date) new and has never been started. When I bought the complete Kitfox 7 kit there was with very little work completed. Two items not included with the sale are the oil tank and radiator. Included is a complete 912uls, carb heat air intake box, drip pans for carbs, rectifier, electrical component and high performance exhaust system, Rotax engine ring mount, throttle cable with split feeds to each carb, choke cable split feeds and other odd and ends that I may find. Also a new 70" carbon fiber 3 blade warp drive prop with optional 2" prop spacer, aluminum spinner and backing plate and the protractor to adjust blade angles. Sell all for13,500 George ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:17 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Larger Brake From: "ashontz" Dave's brake looks excellent for any length spar you want. The only problem with that brake is that it won't do a deep skin. Mine will, but it will only do a piece of .040 up to about 6' before it's pushing it. I should draw up and post some plans of my brake. Personally, I thought designing and building a suitable bending brake on the cheap was one of the hardest parts of building a plane. There's actually a lot involved in making what would seem to be a simple bend in aluminum. skyguynca wrote: > I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it > works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane the other day from 2024t3 > .040 10ft long and it did it no problem. I used the 10ft 4x4 angle 1/4in > thick. > > David Mikesell > 230 Theresa Drive, #6 > Cloverdale, CA 95425 > 209-224-4485 > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > www.skyguynca.com > --- -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142213#142213 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:35 PM PST US From: "Dave Thompson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Dynon POH I downloaded Mark's brake plans and made a parts list. I am not building but have the list. It is at work right now but I'll be glad to send it to you if you want it. Later, Dave Thompson Dave.thompson@verizon.net Westminster, California ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:58 PM PST US From: "Dave Thompson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tachometer for Jabiru 2200A Try the following link, very well made instruments for the price. http://autometer.com/cat_gaugeop.aspx?sid=12 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Do You Have Plans for Sale From: "Dave Williams" Looking for a set of plans for the 601xl. I have been lurking for a while(2yrs) and am ready to take the plunge and buy a set of plans. If you are not going to build lets make a deal. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142230#142230 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:09 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Do You Have Plans for Sale Sorry they are gone,but thanks for the inquire. Joe N101HD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Williams" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Do You Have Plans for Sale > > Looking for a set of plans for the 601xl. I have been lurking for a > while(2yrs) and am ready to take the plunge and buy a set of plans. If you > are not going to build lets make a deal. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142230#142230 > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:57 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Do You Have Plans for Sale From: "Gig Giacona" Here's a link to a set I saw for sale. http://tinyurl.com/lbd26 -------- W.R. 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