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1. 02:07 AM - Re: new 912uls for sale with prop (Graeme Bell)
2. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Larger Brake (William Dominguez)
3. 11:29 AM - Re: Larger Brake (ashontz)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: John Croke (Lumkes, John H)
5. 03:50 PM - CH801 (dj45)
6. 03:51 PM - Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer (Piano (Tim Juhl)
7. 03:52 PM - Re: John Croke (Larry Portouw)
8. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: John Croke (Paul Riedlinger)
9. 06:50 PM - Re: CH801 (kmccune)
10. 06:55 PM - lighting minihelic (leinad)
11. 07:07 PM - LLC (Matt & Jo)
12. 07:21 PM - Re: LLC (steve)
13. 07:38 PM - CH801 (dj45)
14. 08:05 PM - Re: LLC (Paul Mulwitz)
15. 08:06 PM - VDO sender installation instructions for the LE tanks on an HD model (Jeff)
16. 08:55 PM - ZenVair 601 (ZodieRocket)
17. 08:58 PM - Looking for a few parts (LHusky@aol.com)
18. 09:43 PM - Re: Larger Brake (TxDave)
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| Subject: | Re: new 912uls for sale with prop |
George
Where are you in Australia USA
Some idea of location would be goog.
Graemecns
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From: SUE MICHAELS
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:24 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: new 912uls for sale with prop
have an 912uls up for sale that has near everthing you need for the
kitfox setup. Only a couple items keeping but you may find through this
Kitfox list.
I believe the Rotax 912uls was built in Mid 2005 (still checking exact
date) new and has never been started. When I bought the complete Kitfox
7 kit there was with very little work completed. Two items not included
with the sale are the oil tank and radiator.
Included is a complete 912uls, carb heat air intake box, drip pans for
carbs, rectifier,
electrical component and high performance exhaust system, Rotax engine
ring mount, throttle cable with split feeds to each carb, choke cable
split feeds and other odd and ends that I may find. Also a new 70"
carbon fiber 3 blade warp drive prop with optional 2" prop spacer,
aluminum spinner and backing plate and the protractor to adjust blade
angles.
Sell all for13,500
George
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| Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
I have an 8' wooden bending brake of my own design and like Dave's brake, I couldn't
do deep skins. My solution was to add a reinforced steel clamp that I think
can also work on Dave's brake. Here is a picture of my brake with the steel
clamp:
http://williamdominguez.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album10&id=115_1531_IMG_Large
I use C clamps on each side (not shown on the picture) of the skin, this limits
the length to 7', but enough for skins. Here is another picture of the brake
but this time it is bending a skin flange without using the steel clamps, in this
one I use C clamps all along the brake:
http://williamdominguez.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06&id=115_1511_IMG_Large
I made the aileron and flap middle of the skin bends using the steel clamp and
it worked well. For flanges I still use the method shown in the second picture.
A clamp like this would not be difficult to adapt to a steel brake like Dave's
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601 XL Plans
Miami Florida
Dave's brake looks excellent for any length spar you want. The only problem with
that brake is that it won't do a deep skin. Mine will, but it will only do a
piece of .040 up to about 6' before it's pushing it. I should draw up and post
some plans of my brake. Personally, I thought designing and building a suitable
bending brake on the cheap was one of the hardest parts of building a plane.
There's actually a lot involved in making what would seem to be a simple bend
in aluminum.
skyguynca wrote:
> I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it
> works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane the other day from 2024t3
> .040 10ft long and it did it no problem. I used the 10ft 4x4 angle 1/4in
> thick.
>
> David Mikesell
> 230 Theresa Drive, #6
> Cloverdale, CA 95425
> 209-224-4485
> skyguynca@skyguynca.com
> www.skyguynca.com
> ---
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
It's all about machanics. Even though it's a wooden bending brake, with that reinforcing
bar, it actually looks like it would work well.
[quote="bill_dom(at)yahoo.com"]I have an 8' wooden bending brake of my own design
and like Dave's brake, I couldn't do deep skins. My solution was to add a reinforced
steel clamp that I think can also work on Dave's brake. Here is a picture
of my brake with the steel clamp:
http://williamdominguez.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album10&id=115_1531_IMG_Large
I use C clamps on each side (not shown on the picture) of the skin, this limits
the length to 7', but enough for skins. Here is another picture of the brake
but this time it is bending a skin flange without using the steel clamps, in this
one I use C clamps all along the brake:
http://williamdominguez.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album06&id=115_1511_IMG_Large
I made the aileron and flap middle of the skin bends using the steel clamp and
it worked well. For flanges I still use the method shown in the second picture.
A clamp like this would not be difficult to adapt to a steel brake like Dave's
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601 XL Plans
Miami Florida
Dave's brake looks excellent for any length spar you want. The only problem with
that brake is that it won't do a deep skin. Mine will, but it will only do a
piece of .040 up to about 6' before it's pushing it. I should draw up and post
some plans of my brake. Personally, I thought designing and building a suitable
bending brake on the cheap was one of the hardest parts of building a plane.
There's actually a lot involved in making what would seem to be a simple bend
in aluminum.
skyguynca wrote:
[quote] I built the plans from 601.com David's brake.......made mine 10ft and it
works great. I bent up some spars for a biplane
> [b]
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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Jon
If you only need to move "a little" south, your expertise with Zenith's
would make you a welcome neighbor (-:) at Timberhouse Aero Estates,
Lafayette, IN (http://www.airnav.com/airport/31IN, www.timberhouseaero.com
<http://www.timberhouseaero.com/> )
Also, if you (or others) are flying through the area and need a break, you
are welcome to stop by. Fun place to live or visit: visitors flying in,
Purdue University, low cost of living, low unemployment, and the woods at
the airpark have creeks, trails, deer, etc.
Best wishes with career and moving,
John
Recent photos:
http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse
<http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse%20Aero%20Flight%201
0_20_2007_01.JPG> Aero Flight 10_20_2007_01.JPG
http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse
<http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse%20Aero%20Flight%201
0_20_2007_14.JPG> Aero Flight 10_20_2007_14.JPG
http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse
<http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse%20Aero%20Flight%201
0_20_2007_32.JPG> Aero Flight 10_20_2007_32.JPG
http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse
<http://cobweb.ecn.purdue.edu/~lumkes/flying/TimberHouse%20Aero%20Flight%201
0_20_2007_34.JPG> Aero Flight 10_20_2007_34.JPG
(37 pictures total if you change the last two digits manually)
From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
>Keeping my eyes open for a new location to live/fly/work year
round....
>maybe south of the Mason/Dixon! Am jealous of those that live on a
real
>airstrip! (and in year long warm climates!)
>
>Jon
>
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So close to being done I can almost taste it.
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Dan Stanton
95% done paint to go
801, IO360
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL - Question Re. Mating Of Elevator To Stabilizer |
(Piano
To anyone following this thread, I gave Dave bad advice. Once I went out to the
shop and looked at the elev / stab I realized that side clamps could not be
used in that situation. Dave and I have since communicated about it but as I
now recall I used tape strips to hold the hinge in place once the proper location
was established.
Next time I'll be sure before I open my big mouth and give advice.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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'ere's a METAR for you from last week. Runway is 12,001 feet long plus two shorter
ones.
KFHU 232255Z 07011KT 90SM SKC 24/M08 A3030 RMK SLP210
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Larry Portouw
601XL Kit (H. Stab)
PA-22 N8141C
Fort Huachuca, AZ
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How about 0NC2 or www.mountainaircc.com if you really want to live on the
top!
On 10/28/07, Larry Portouw <Larry@portouw.com> wrote:
>
>
> 'ere's a METAR for you from last week. Runway is 12,001 feet long plus two
> shorter ones.
> KFHU 232255Z 07011KT 90SM SKC 24/M08 A3030 RMK SLP210
>
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> Larry Portouw
> 601XL Kit (H. Stab)
> PA-22 N8141C
> Fort Huachuca, AZ
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142369#142369
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>
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Paul Riedlinger
cndmovn@gmail.com
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Very Cool!
Congrats!!!!
Kevin
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Kevin
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| Subject: | lighting minihelic |
Has anyone got any good ideas for lighting a minihelic as used as an LRI?
Dan Dempsey
plans building 601XL
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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Hello all,
I am getting close to submitting my paper work to the FAA and thought I
would throw this out.
Has any one registered their home built as an LLC. I have some friends
that have their aircraft registered to their LLC and they are hoping to
avoid liability when or if they sell. I am not sure if it is worth the
hassle or if it really will do much. I am not sure that there is really
that much risk from layers on private individuals. There just isn't
that much money to go after. It is not like going after a large
company. There was a good article in Kitplanes or EAA a couple months
back.
Anyway. Would like to hear opinions on ways to reduce/manage liability.
Getting close to moving to the hangar.
Cheers
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com.
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I wrote to the EAA attorney and the reply was that to date there has
been only one law suit on an Experimental.
It was on the John Denver EZE crash and the defect was the fuel valve.
The EAA said that lawyers dont get enough money if the go after us
"little" guys. Its not worth their time...
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: Matt & Jo
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: LLC
Hello all,
I am getting close to submitting my paper work to the FAA and thought
I would throw this out.
Has any one registered their home built as an LLC. I have some
friends that have their aircraft registered to their LLC and they are
hoping to avoid liability when or if they sell. I am not sure if it is
worth the hassle or if it really will do much. I am not sure that there
is really that much risk from layers on private individuals. There just
isn't that much money to go after. It is not like going after a large
company. There was a good article in Kitplanes or EAA a couple months
back.
Anyway. Would like to hear opinions on ways to reduce/manage
liability.
Getting close to moving to the hangar.
Cheers
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com.
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I almost forgot the working part.
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Dan Stanton
95% done paint to go
801, IO360
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I'm not a lawyer, but an amateur student of law (as all business men
must be). I am not at all worried about lawsuits over product
liability with regard to experimental airplanes. The big
"EXPERIMENTAL" sign we must have on each plane warns all potential
passengers, pilots, and buyers that they are taking a significant
risk. The lawyers tend to go after folks who "Sneak up" on potential
victims without warning.
I suppose the John Denver story is the exception that proves the
rule. In his case, apparently, there was so much money involved that
it drew in even the most careful sharks. It doesn't seem to matter
that in his case it was his first flight in a strange plane he just
bought and he starved it of fuel while flying over water (as I
remember the reports).
Paul
XL fuselage
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At 07:21 PM 10/28/2007, you wrote:
>I wrote to the EAA attorney and the reply was that to date there has
>been only one law suit on an Experimental.
>It was on the John Denver EZE crash and the defect was the fuel
>valve. The EAA said that lawyers dont get enough money if the go
>after us "little" guys. Its not worth their time...
>SW
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| Subject: | VDO sender installation instructions for the LE tanks on |
an HD model
It is time for me to install and hook up the senders in my Leading Edge
tanks on my HD wings now that they are on the plane. Does anyone have a
copy of the installation instructions for the VDO float senders from ZAC? I
can't seem to find mine. I remember there were some instructions about how
to bend the float arm. That is what I'm most interested in. Thanks .
Jeff Davidson
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Just got a notice, for those of you who are interested in installing a
William Wynne conversion in your Zodiac 601 Quality Sport Planes in
California will be hosting Corvair College 11 on November 9-11 2007 for
more information please check out this link
HYPERLINK
"http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/qsp-2006_077.htm"http://www.qualitysp
ortplanes.com/qsp-2006_077.htm
Thanks
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
HYPERLINK "http://www.ch601.org"www.ch601.org / HYPERLINK
"http://www.ch701.com"www.ch701.com/ HYPERLINK
"http://www.Osprey2.com"www.Osprey2.com
10/27/2007 11:02 AM
10/27/2007 11:02 AM
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| Subject: | Looking for a few parts |
Is there anyone out there that may have bought a tri-gear kit and decided to
go with a tail dragger? I am looking for landing gear components. Main
spring gear, front leg, forks, tires, wheels, brakes, or anything that your not
using. I just thought I would throw this out to the list before I go and buy
this stuff from another source.
Thanks,
Larry Husky
601XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
Excuse me. If you use a little of the gray matter God put between your ears, you
can bend ANYTHING you'll need for the 601XL with my brake.
"Deep skins"??? I'm guessing that means control surface skins like flaps and ailerons.
They are not a problem (see attached photos).
Folks...if you have any questions about the free brake plans I have been happily
providing for over a year now, just ask me. Don't rely on someone else's assumptions.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
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