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1. 04:39 AM - Re: Painting (Bob Unternaehrer)
2. 06:27 AM - Re: Larger Brake (ashontz)
3. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: lighting minihelic (Dino Bortolin)
4. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: lighting minihelic (Trainnut01@aol.com)
5. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: Auto Conversion Discussion. (Herb Heaton)
6. 08:56 AM - Piano hinge lube (Tim Juhl)
7. 10:14 AM - Re: Piano hinge lube (Edward Moody II)
8. 12:23 PM - Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (John Davis)
9. 12:51 PM - 601 Tail kit for sale (Michael Hilderbrand)
10. 01:08 PM - Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (wade jones)
11. 01:08 PM - Re: Piano hinge lube (steveadams)
12. 01:45 PM - 801 with LOM (Tracy)
13. 02:17 PM - Re: Looking for a few parts (Phil Maxson)
14. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: Piano hinge lube (Juan Vega)
15. 03:22 PM - Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (ROBERT SCEPPA)
16. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Piano hinge lube (Art Olechowski)
17. 04:34 PM - Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (wade jones)
18. 04:37 PM - Re: lighting minihelic (leinad)
19. 04:49 PM - Tachometer Problems (Dan)
20. 05:05 PM - Re: Re:801 flaperon deflection (n801bh@netzero.com)
21. 05:07 PM - Re: Stolen Aircraft (n801bh@netzero.com)
22. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: lighting minihelic (GeorgeM)
23. 05:34 PM - Serial to gray code converter ()
24. 06:09 PM - Re: Serial to gray code converter (GLENN JOHNSON)
25. 06:11 PM - Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (Southern Reflections)
26. 06:13 PM - Re: Burger and a chat (Wingrider)
27. 06:16 PM - Re: Re:Jabiru Cooling (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
28. 06:49 PM - Re: Re:Jabiru Cooling (sales@steelframe)
29. 08:10 PM - Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off (wade jones)
30. 08:43 PM - Re: Stolen Aircraft (John Marzulli)
31. 10:01 PM - Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure (Edward Micallef)
32. 10:31 PM - Jabiru Cooling (Rosestar)
33. 11:37 PM - Re: Jabiru Cooling (T. Graziano)
34. 11:44 PM - 601XL form blocks joggle and crimp cutouts (Jugle)
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I would continue to use a primer, but switch to self etching primers.
Zinc Chromate can be effected by some modern epoxy and catalyzed
eurathanes, so use caution. If you don't want to prime use the etches
and alodines available. DuPont calls theirs Part A and Part B paint
prep I believe, and just follow instructions. I've done Both. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: steve
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Painting
Questions about painting....
My fuselage came with zinc chromate primer and thats not a problem.
What I d like to know is this: The wings and tail are bare aluminum.
What did you do to paint your aluminum ?
In the past I ve use Alodine and then painted. That seemed to work
good. However the Auto paint store suggested to continue with zinc
chromate. I really would like to keep the weight down and the labor
less......
I dont recall if aircraft paint shops "prime before paint ??
Steve
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Subject: | Re: Larger Brake |
TxDave wrote:
> Hey Andy,
>
> The top piece of angle (I call it the top plate) is flat against the aluminum.
I have pretty large bolts running through my table and a 1x4 board attached
under my table for strength. I'm no engineer...so I don't have a technical explanation.
It just works, that's all I know.
>
> Dave
As I see it, your brake is excellent for spars for sure. The really difficult part
is when you have to have clamp points for the bolts only at the ends of the
top plate (like when doing a wide deep skin). No different than my brake when
doing a piece like that. You really have to keep that top plate from flexing.
As far as the bottom plate (the bender), your brake has an advanage there in
that it's supported along the entire length where as mine is designed like Larry's
brake, pivots on the ends. That being the case I need a tensioner on the
bottom as well as the top, but it works well. I'm just wondering about the mechanics
of the top plate on yours and why it manages to stay put even though for
a wide deep skin it's only bolts at the ends with a good 7 foot stretch between
clamp points.
In addition to my tensioner bars I've considered going back and adding another
welded plate inside of the upside down V as additional support, same with the
bending tongue. It works for now, but as I use it I see better ways to design
it. A welded plate would add a lot more reinforcing to keep the angles from warping
as pressure is applied. A tube (triangular tube in this case) is a lot stronger
than an angle. If you put a micrometer on mine when under force you'd
probably see the dimension between the two angle legs decrease in the middle by
a millimeter or two. Pretty amazing that even steel will flex that much when
bending a piece of aluminum, but the process of making a proper bend in aluminum
is deceptively more complicated.
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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Subject: | Re: lighting minihelic |
Dan,
The case does connect directly to one of the pressure ports.
The black ring around the outer edge of the face is painted on. If you look
at it from the side, you can see that clear plastic lies below the thin
black layer. I was thinking to make a small hole in the flange of the case,
radially outboard as far as possible, to mount a small LED which would shine
into the back side of the clear layer. I need to take the face off my gauge
again to make sure that it wouldn't affect the seal between the face and
case.
Dino Bortolin
On 10/29/07, leinad <leinad@hughes.net> wrote:
>
>
> George,
> You're idea sounds good. In fact I thought of doing that but I'm afraid
> that the instrument case may be a pressure vessel of sorts, and was afraid
> to compromise the integrity of the case. I'd love to hear from someone that
> has actually used this method on a Dwyer Minihelic without ill effect.
> Dan
>
> [quote="georgerace"]Hi Dan:
>
> You can do a very nice job of lighting an instrument with a small red
> LED. The small "grain of wheat" size works well.
>
> Remove the instrument from its case.
> Remove the glass lens from the case.
> Drill a small hole the size of the small LED from the outside of the case
> to where the edge of the glass fits into the case.
> Install and epoxy the led into the hole so that it just barely touches
> the glass when installed.
>
> Hook the LED, with a proper series resistor to a 12 volt source. Do not
> hook it to the panel dimmer control.
>
> Although it cannot be successfully dimmed, it will cast a nice red glow
> on the face of the instrument. The glass acts as a conductor of the light
> and provides nice even illumination.
>
> George
>
> > [b]
>
>
> --------
> Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142625#142625
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Subject: | Re: lighting minihelic |
Dan
Why don't you just put a post light on it. They are not terribly expensive
and they work great. I used them on some of the lights in my RV and they worked
so good I unhooked the internal lights I already had on some of my
instruments and put post lights on them too.
Carroll Jernigan
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Subject: | Re: Auto Conversion Discussion. |
Sean,
Try ALRECO ( Aluminum Recycling Co ) just north of Denver. The sheet
aluminum and Spar Cap material I purchased was new and had the MFG lot
numbers stamped on the material. He only takes cash or checks, no
credit cards.
ALRECO Aluminum Surplus
11299 Brighton Rd, Henderson, CO
303-287-7210
Herb
Colorado Springs, CO
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Moore<mailto:moore.sean@gmail.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Auto Conversion Discussion.
On 10/29/07, Art Gibeaut
<aagibeaut@yahoo.com<mailto:aagibeaut@yahoo.com>> wrote:
<aagibeaut@yahoo.com<mailto:aagibeaut@yahoo.com>>
Bill is giving you good advice. I'm in the steel and aluminum
business and fully engrossed in the quality side of metals. I'm also a
new builder of a Zentih CH 701 and would never ever buy aluminum from
anyone but reputable aviation supply sources.
This answers a question I've been afraid to ask as of yet. Thank you.
Price is nice but if you can't trust it...
Along that vein, does anyone know of a reputable supplier local to
Denver, CO?
--
Sean Moore
moore.sean@gmail.com<mailto:moore.sean@gmail.com>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Zenith-List>
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Subject: | Piano hinge lube |
What is the consensus on the best lube for the piano hinges used on the various
control surfaces of the XL. Cessna recommends graphite powder - Piper used some
hinges where the pin was inside a teflon sleeve.
Comments?
Tim
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______________
CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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Subject: | Re: Piano hinge lube |
Whatever is used should provide some corrosion inhibition because the
pin and the inside of the barrels will corrode otherwise. I'm leaning
toward an automotive grease once all the painting is done. That will
require a small insertion hole accurately located in at least one of the
stabilizer tips. The flap hinge is easier because the aileron design
allows access to the barrels from the outboard end without any fancy
footwork.
Dred
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Juhl
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Piano hinge lube
What is the consensus on the best lube for the piano hinges used on
the various control surfaces of the XL. Cessna recommends graphite
powder - Piper used some hinges where the pin was inside a teflon
sleeve.
Comments?
Tim
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Subject: | Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering 15% off on sheet
metal orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when ordering.
John Davis
Burnsville, NC
601XL - Jab 3300
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Subject: | 601 Tail kit for sale |
I now have my Tail Kit for sale. It would be "ideal" for someone to pick it
up instead of spending A LOT of money on crating/packaging & shipping. I
will have a professional packaging service pack and ship the tail, and thei
r price is based on the buyers zip code. Anyone interestead let me know..
May the best man win! =0A=0A$900 OBO ( + packaging & shipping)=0APics at h
ttp://www.kansasflying.com/601xl=0A=0A =0AMichael Hilderbrand=0ADerby, Kans
as
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Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
Hello group ,I have been reading posts on 6061-T6 sheet Aluminum .I have
been paying $60.00 for .025 4' X 12' sheets .Each time they give a
certified copy of the CCs .I pick it up myself and have never had any
damage .The company is Trident in Houston TX and has several locations .The
last time (one month ago) my sales person had quit and another sales person
quoted me a price of $98.00 per sheet .When I told him that I had been
paying much less he also sold it for $60.00 ,must be a good mark up.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Davis" <johnd@data-tech.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>
> Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering 15% off on sheet metal
> orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when ordering.
>
> John Davis
> Burnsville, NC
> 601XL - Jab 3300
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Piano hinge lube |
LPS #2 spray lubricant works well. I use it a few times a year on all the hinges,
controls etc. It penetrates well and forms a film that is supposed to last
1 year outdoors.
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Would like to talk to anyone who has put the
LOM engine in their 801,pros cons ,does,don`ts
flying carcteristics,installation does and don`ts
also looking for anyone who need builder assitance on there 801,701,601,or
others ,i do sheet metal work ,tube and fabric,basic structure or
complete,located in ne wi, 20.oo an hour shop rate,or we can talk total package
920 982 2509
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Subject: | Looking for a few parts |
Larry,
After two years of flying, I'm missing building! I wish I had gone with a
tail-dragger before. Anyway, live and learn. I'll respond to you off-list
.Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair Northwest New Jersey
From: LHusky@aol.comDate: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:58:13 -0400Subject: Zenith-Li
st: Looking for a few partsTo: zenith-list@matronics.com
<<SNIP> I am looking for landing gear components. Main spring gear, front
leg, forks, tires, wheels, brakes, or anything that your not using. <<SNIP>
_________________________________________________________________
!
ilnews
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Subject: | Re: Piano hinge lube |
ditto on the LPS 2.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: steveadams <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Oct 30, 2007 4:08 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Piano hinge lube
>
>
>LPS #2 spray lubricant works well. I use it a few times a year on all the hinges,
controls etc. It penetrates well and forms a film that is supposed to last
1 year outdoors.
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142807#142807
>
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Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
> How much is .016?
--- wade jones <wjones@brazoriainet.com> wrote:
> <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
>
> Hello group ,I have been reading posts on 6061-T6
> sheet Aluminum .I have
> been paying $60.00 for .025 4' X 12' sheets .Each
> time they give a
> certified copy of the CCs .I pick it up myself and
> have never had any
> damage .The company is Trident in Houston TX and has
> several locations .The
> last time (one month ago) my sales person had quit
> and another sales person
> quoted me a price of $98.00 per sheet .When I told
> him that I had been
> paying much less he also sold it for $60.00 ,must be
> a good mark up.
> Wade Jones South Texas
> 601XL plans building
> Cont. 0200
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Davis" <johnd@data-tech.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks -
> 15% off
>
>
> <johnd@data-tech.com>
> >
> > Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering
> 15% off on sheet metal
> > orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when
> ordering.
> >
> > John Davis
> > Burnsville, NC
> > 601XL - Jab 3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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Subject: | Re: Piano hinge lube |
I worked quick turnaround maintenance on heavies in
Sanford, FL and we stored all the tug tow carts
outside on the ramp. We used LPS 2 religiously on them
with excellent results.
Art
--- Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
> <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
>
> ditto on the LPS 2.
>
> Juan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: steveadams <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Oct 30, 2007 4:08 PM
> >To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Piano hinge lube
> >
> <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
> >
> >LPS #2 spray lubricant works well. I use it a few
> times a year on all the hinges, controls etc. It
> penetrates well and forms a film that is supposed to
> last 1 year outdoors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Read this topic online here:
> >
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142807#142807
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
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Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
They will not sell .016 ,too much trouble in the past .
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "ROBERT SCEPPA" <rjscep@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>
>> How much is .016?
> --- wade jones <wjones@brazoriainet.com> wrote:
>
>> <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
>>
>> Hello group ,I have been reading posts on 6061-T6
>> sheet Aluminum .I have
>> been paying $60.00 for .025 4' X 12' sheets .Each
>> time they give a
>> certified copy of the CCs .I pick it up myself and
>> have never had any
>> damage .The company is Trident in Houston TX and has
>> several locations .The
>> last time (one month ago) my sales person had quit
>> and another sales person
>> quoted me a price of $98.00 per sheet .When I told
>> him that I had been
>> paying much less he also sold it for $60.00 ,must be
>> a good mark up.
>> Wade Jones South Texas
>> 601XL plans building
>> Cont. 0200
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Davis" <johnd@data-tech.com>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks -
>> 15% off
>>
>>
>> <johnd@data-tech.com>
>> >
>> > Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering
>> 15% off on sheet metal
>> > orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when
>> ordering.
>> >
>> > John Davis
>> > Burnsville, NC
>> > 601XL - Jab 3300
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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Subject: | Re: lighting minihelic |
[quote="Trainnut01(at)aol.com"]Dan
Why don't you just put a post light on it. They are not terribly expensive and
they work great. I used them on some of the lights in my RV and they worked
so good I unhooked the internal lights I already had on some of my instruments
and put post lights on them too.
Carroll Jernigan
do not archive.
See w
> [b]
Carrol,
Thanks. I've heard about post lights but never seen one. I'll look into it.
It might be the perfect solution. I have one other gage (EGT/CHT) that isn't presently
lit, but the other ideas that have been talked about would work good
on that one.
Dan
--------
Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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Subject: | Tachometer Problems |
I ran my new Rotax 912S today and it ran great. However, the tachometer
went crazy above 3000 rpm so I could not throttle the engine all the way
up to check the max rpm's. This was a tach supplied by Zenith. Has
anyone else had this problem. All of the connections seem secure.
Dan Wilde
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Subject: | Re: re:801 flaperon deflection |
Seems to me I have about 28 degrees. It is so much I cannot trim nose up
enough. Dumping full flaps is kinda like pulling the chute on a dragste
r, you can feel it in the seatbelts and you will slow down damn fast....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net> wrote:
Thanks for the reply
do you know how many degrees of flaps you have?
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Subject: | Re: Stolen Aircraft |
The airport manager there is Stan Barrett, he has owned an 801 before an
d I saw him on the local news after it happened. He was as shocked as mo
st of us who can't believe a plane got ripped off in this neck of the wo
ods.....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "Mack Kreizenbeck" <aprazer@cableone.net> wrote:
net>
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but a 2003 Zenith CH2000
D,
N652AM, S/N 20-1022 was stolen from the American Falls Idaho Airport
sometime between October 5th and 12th. This bird is white with blue and
yellow stripes. If you see it, contact your local police or Seth Magid o
f
AIG Aviation 800-969-5473. There is a $10,000 reward!
Mack P. Kreizenbeck
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Subject: | Re: lighting minihelic |
> Thanks. I've heard about post lights but never seen one. I'll look into
> it.
> It might be the perfect solution. I have one other gage (EGT/CHT) that
> isn't presently lit, but the other ideas that have been talked about would
> work good on that one.
> Dan
Here is one:
http://www.engalt.com/aviation.htm
George
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Subject: | Serial to gray code converter |
Hey guys, I've got an encoder that puts out serial altitude data and a Becker 4401-1
transponder that accepts only gray code altitude data.
Anybody out there have any experience with the Dynon serial to gray code converter
module? Any info or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dred
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Subject: | Serial to gray code converter |
HI DRED
I USED THE GREY CODE WITH MY DYNON AND A KING TRANSPONDER. I GOT MY WIRING
HOOKUP ON LINE FROM KING WEB SITE I THINK. I WENT TO A LOCAL AVIONICS SHO
P AND THE GUY GAVE ME A BUNCH OF CONNECTERS FOR FREE. I BOUGHT MY ENCODERE
R FROM AIRCRAFT SPRUCE. THE INSTRUCTION FOR THE ENCODER CAME WITH THE ENCO
DER.
IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION I'LL DIG OUT MY PAPER WORK.
GLENN
> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:32:30 -0400> From: dredmoody@cox.net> To: zenit
h-list@matronics.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Serial to gray code converter>
got an encoder that puts out serial altitude data and a Becker 4401-1 trans
ponder that accepts only gray code altitude data. > > Anybody out there hav
e any experience with the Dynon serial to gray code converter module? Any i
=======> > >
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Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
To much trouble? In what way. Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "wade jones" <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>
> They will not sell .016 ,too much trouble in the past .
> Wade Jones South Texas
> 601XL plans building
> Cont. 0200
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ROBERT SCEPPA" <rjscep@yahoo.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>
>
>>
>>> How much is .016?
>> --- wade jones <wjones@brazoriainet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
>>>
>>> Hello group ,I have been reading posts on 6061-T6
>>> sheet Aluminum .I have
>>> been paying $60.00 for .025 4' X 12' sheets .Each
>>> time they give a
>>> certified copy of the CCs .I pick it up myself and
>>> have never had any
>>> damage .The company is Trident in Houston TX and has
>>> several locations .The
>>> last time (one month ago) my sales person had quit
>>> and another sales person
>>> quoted me a price of $98.00 per sheet .When I told
>>> him that I had been
>>> paying much less he also sold it for $60.00 ,must be
>>> a good mark up.
>>> Wade Jones South Texas
>>> 601XL plans building
>>> Cont. 0200
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Davis" <johnd@data-tech.com>
>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM
>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks -
>>> 15% off
>>>
>>>
>>> <johnd@data-tech.com>
>>> >
>>> > Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering
>>> 15% off on sheet metal
>>> > orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when
>>> ordering.
>>> >
>>> > John Davis
>>> > Burnsville, NC
>>> > 601XL - Jab 3300
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> browse
>>> Subscriptions page,
>>> FAQ,
>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
>>>
>>> Web Forums!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: Burger and a chat |
Any updates? Is this still on?
--------
Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS Under Construction
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Subject: | Re:Jabiru Cooling |
Hey guys: Anyone out there redone the cooling on a Jabiru 3300 and gotten
rid of the cooling ducts? I have sent e-mails to Pete at USA Jabiru and Bob at
RL aviation and can not get answers about helping me with new cooling ducts
for my Jabiru.
I am willing to try anything that works. My 3300 cooled fine in
California, and on the way home to Florida. But once I got here, the temps went
up.
(Over 350 at economy cruise)
Lynn Nelsen
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From: | "sales@steelframe" <sales@steelframe.com.au> |
Subject: | Re:Jabiru Cooling |
What you gotta do is modify the lower cowl to suck more air out,
I can send you a photo if you want to contact me, But Do
not touch the cooling ducts, also what type of aircraft ?
Regards
Ron Saarinen
----- Original Message -----
From: IFLYSMODEL@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re:Jabiru Cooling
Hey guys: Anyone out there redone the cooling on a Jabiru 3300 and
gotten rid of the cooling ducts? I have sent e-mails to Pete at USA
Jabiru and Bob at RL aviation and can not get answers about helping me
with new cooling ducts for my Jabiru.
I am willing to try anything that works. My 3300 cooled fine in
California, and on the way home to Florida. But once I got here, the
temps went up. (Over 350 at economy cruise)
Lynn Nelsen
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Subject: | Re: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off |
They will not handle anyrthing under .025 .They said that the lighter
thickness material was very hard for them to receive without shipping damage
.
Wade Jones South Texas
601XL plans building
Cont. 0200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Southern Reflections" <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
> <purplemoon99@bellsouth.net>
>
> To much trouble? In what way. Joe N101HD
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wade jones" <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>
>
>>
>> They will not sell .016 ,too much trouble in the past .
>> Wade Jones South Texas 601XL plans building
>> Cont. 0200
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "ROBERT SCEPPA" <rjscep@yahoo.com>
>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks - 15% off
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> How much is .016?
>>> --- wade jones <wjones@brazoriainet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <wjones@brazoriainet.com>
>>>>
>>>> Hello group ,I have been reading posts on 6061-T6
>>>> sheet Aluminum .I have been paying $60.00 for .025 4' X 12' sheets
>>>> .Each
>>>> time they give a certified copy of the CCs .I pick it up myself and
>>>> have never had any damage .The company is Trident in Houston TX and has
>>>> several locations .The last time (one month ago) my sales person had
>>>> quit
>>>> and another sales person quoted me a price of $98.00 per sheet .When I
>>>> told
>>>> him that I had been paying much less he also sold it for $60.00 ,must
>>>> be
>>>> a good mark up.
>>>> Wade Jones South Texas
>>>> 601XL plans building
>>>> Cont. 0200
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "John Davis" <johnd@data-tech.com>
>>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal sale at Wicks -
>>>> 15% off
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <johnd@data-tech.com>
>>>> >
>>>> > Just got a flyer from Wicks that they are offering
>>>> 15% off on sheet metal
>>>> > orders over $200 in November. Use code 117 when
>>>> ordering.
>>>> >
>>>> > John Davis
>>>> > Burnsville, NC
>>>> > 601XL - Jab 3300
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> browse
>>>> Subscriptions page,
>>>> FAQ,
>>>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
>>>>
>>>> Web Forums!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Stolen Aircraft |
How can somebody expect to get away with this?
Are there aviation chop shops or launderers?
At least you might be able to track the plane in the future if someone is
stupid enough to use flight following with a hot plane:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N652AM
Good grief.
-John in Seattle
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On 10/30/07, n801bh@netzero.com <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote:
>
> The airport manager there is Stan Barrett, he has owned an 801 before and
> I saw him on the local news after it happened. He was as shocked as most of
> us who can't believe a plane got ripped off in this neck of the woods.....
>
>
> do not archive
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> -- "Mack Kreizenbeck" <aprazer@cableone.net> wrote:
> aprazer@cableone.net>
>
> I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but a 2003 Zenith CH2000D,
> N652AM, S/N 20-1022 was stolen from the American Falls Idaho Airport
> sometime between October 5th and 12th. This bird is white with blue and
> yellow stripes. If you see it, contact your local police or Seth Magid of
> AIG Aviation 800-969-5473. There is a
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"Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot
harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 UL high oil pressure |
: :
:(
Hi you all, I have changed the Rotax oil filter with an other Rotax oil filter
and drained the oil witch was all syentec and replaced with a 10w 40 oil
recommend by Rotax. I also removed the sender and bench tested . Checked out
good flew the plane for 3hrs , the oil pressure is mostly in the 80psi at 5k
rpm ..at 2k rpm. it drops to around 65psi...at one time when I let the rpm go
to 58k the oil psi went down to about 65psi.. The engine runs great . any
comments?. Keep your air speed up and happy landings...Ed
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I just heard a suggestion last weekend that sounds like it might work.
Add a one inch extension strip of aluminum to the "lip" on the aft
bottom of the of the lower cowling. Just this much will help create a
slip stream in climb and allow the air in the engine compartment to
escape. As the cowling is now, there is too much pressure on the bottom
cowling starting at a 4% climb to allow the air to escape. This was a
simple fix by my new builder friend Ray on his old Luscombe, which the
factory adopted to solve its cooling issue years ago. He suggested this
to another 601 owner with a Jabiru 3300. At least in climb the cooling
should improve. Any thoughts?
Brad DeMeo
N601BD
still working and trying to finish soon
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Subject: | Re: Jabiru Cooling |
This kind of extension worked great on my XL this past Summer with temps
in the mid to hi 90ies.
I believe the newer Jab FWF packages for the XL have improved cowling
for more cooling, in addition to the newer engines having improved ram
air ducts and more cooling fin area on the cylinders
.
Tony Graziano
601XL/Jab 3300; 314 hrs
Jabiru Cooling
From: Rosestar (rosestar@sonic.net)
Date: Tue Oct 30 - 10:31 PM
I just heard a suggestion last weekend that sounds like it might work.
Add a one inch extension strip of aluminum to the "lip" on the aft
bottom of the of the lower cowling. Just this much will help create a
slip stream in climb and allow the air in the engine compartment to
escape. As the cowling is now, there is too much pressure on the bottom
cowling starting at a 4% climb to allow the air to escape. This was a
simple fix by my new builder friend Ray on his old Luscombe, which the
factory adopted to solve its cooling issue years ago. He suggested this
to another 601 owner with a Jabiru 3300. At least in climb the cooling
should improve. Any thoughts?
Brad DeMeo
N601BD
still working and trying to finish soon
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Subject: | 601XL form blocks joggle and crimp cutouts |
Forgive me if I'm getting a bit pedantic here, but I just want to be sure. Where
I've notched out the form blocks for the joggle for the spar and for the crimps
along the rib edges, do I need to round those edges off like the rest of the
block?
I'm concerned that if I bash with a hammer and wooden block to follow those recesses
I might get some cracking... or is the bend shallow enough to cope?
What have you done?
Glenn.
--------
Glenn Andressen
601XL- just started.
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