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Wed 11/14/07


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: Progress - thanks to good old Dad! (TxDave)
     2. 06:21 AM - strut cuffs (Joe Spencer)
     3. 07:49 AM - Rudder Workshop in Chandler, AZ (Andrew Hinsdale)
     4. 09:20 AM - Construction/Restoration (Russell Lassetter)
     5. 09:25 AM - Contacting Purple Dragon Pilot (Keith Ashcraft)
     6. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Pegastol Wings (John Marzulli)
     7. 01:08 PM - Cargo Tie down rings (Mack Kreizenbeck)
     8. 01:55 PM - Re: xxx Re: Re: Pegastol Wings (John Bolding)
     9. 02:27 PM - Re: Cargo Tie down rings (Jeff Small)
    10. 02:33 PM - xxx Re: Pegastol Wings (RayStL)
    11. 03:09 PM - Re: Cargo Tie down rings (raymondj)
    12. 04:11 PM - Re: Pegastol Wings (kmccune)
    13. 05:05 PM - Re: Pegastol Wings (RayStL)
    14. 06:46 PM - Re: Pegastol Wings (kmccune)
    15. 08:07 PM - Re: Fw: Fw: nutplates (David Downey)
    16. 08:22 PM - Almost Ready (ZodieRocket)
    17. 08:31 PM - Almost Ready (ZodieRocket)
    18. 09:10 PM - 601 parts for sale (Ronald Wright)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:01:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Progress - thanks to good old Dad!
    From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Those are some great looking dies, John. That was definitely a cool gift from your cool Dad. My Pop was pretty cool, too. I sure miss him. do not archive Dave Clay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=145895#145895


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    Time: 06:21:13 AM PST US
    From: "Joe Spencer" <jpspencer@cableone.net>
    Subject: strut cuffs
    Anybody who has made/installed streamlined lift strut cuffs on their 701...can you pass along any info on how you did it; any particular problems etc. Also how much difference it made and any trim changes to speak of, Thanks Joe 701VG 912s 110 hours


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    Time: 07:49:48 AM PST US
    From: Andrew Hinsdale <ahinsdale@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Rudder Workshop in Chandler, AZ
    Good Morning Listers! First of all a big "Thank You" to Matronics for hosting this list and all the others. My donation bagged me a copy of Electric Bob's legendary book, and I could use Pay Pal. Great setup. Second, last weekend I attended the Rudder Workshop at Silver Sky Aviation in Chandler (near Phoenix) AZ. Their web site is http://www.silverskyaviation.com/pages/rudder-workshop.html Sky McCorkle has a complete Zenith builder assist setup. He also has a 601XL Taildragger quick-build kit for sale is anyne is interested. My son & I had a great time at the workshop, learned the basic techniques for building with sheet metal, & at the end, like many before us, we had our first aircraft structure. For everyone in the SW US, this is a GREAT alternative to going to Missouri or Northern Cal. Andy Hinsdale Tucson AZ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/


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    Time: 09:20:05 AM PST US
    From: "Russell Lassetter" <rblassett@alltel.net>
    Subject: Construction/Restoration
    Hello all, I would like to offer my aircraft construction/restoration services to the group. I have a 40' X 60' hangar in NE Georgia and have a lifetime of experience with various aircraft. I can construct large projects for $15.00 per hour with first-class workmanship. Please email me directly or give me a call. Russ Lassetter 202 Aviation Blvd. Cleveland, GA 30528 706-348-7514 rblassett@alltel.net


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    Time: 09:25:59 AM PST US
    From: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
    Subject: Contacting Purple Dragon Pilot
    Zenith-Matronics list, sorry for this message, but.., I was wanting to get hold of Rick Roberts and couldn't Rick, Congratulations!!! I've been trying to contact you off list, but keep getting my message kicked back. Contact me off-line, keith.ashcraft@itt.com Keith This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail.


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    Time: 10:33:47 AM PST US
    From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Pegastol Wings
    Congrats! It's good to see a recent spree of completions. Good luck and happy flying. On Nov 13, 2007 10:31 PM, RayStL <ray.stlaurent@vsea.com> wrote: > > My Pegastol, Suzuki powered CH701 is finally done. I am waiting my flight > authorization to arrive (after a bit of a mixup). It will be faxed to me in > a couple of days. I expect to be airborne by Saturday, weather permitting. I > will post some real numbers as soon as I get them. > > -- Ray > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=145887#145887 > > -- John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -Airplane The Movie


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    Time: 01:08:08 PM PST US
    From: "Mack Kreizenbeck" <aprazer@cableone.net>
    Subject: Cargo Tie down rings
    Ladies and Gents; I just attended a seminar on how to crash your aircraft and survive. I would recommend it to all. It did bring up some questions, i.e., Has anyone addressed the best way to tie down cargo in the baggage area of the 601? The rear area of the baggage compartment is hard to reach -- so the webbing would have to be permanently attached to the tie downs??? What is the best way to secure these tie-downs so they don't pull out of their holes upon impact? Are there any recommended nets? Mack


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    Time: 01:55:27 PM PST US
    From: "John Bolding" <jnbolding1@teleshare.net>
    Subject: Re: Pegastol Wings
    Ray, What is your empty weight? Which prop? 3 cyl or 4? Thanks John -- My Pegastol, Suzuki powered CH701 is finally done. I am waiting my flight authorization to arrive (after a bit of a mixup). It will be faxed to me in a couple of days. I expect to be airborne by Saturday, weather permitting. I will post some real numbers as soon as I get them. -- Ray


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    Time: 02:27:02 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Small" <zodiacjeff@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Cargo Tie down rings
    Mack, >What is the best way to secure these >tie-downs so they don't pull out of their holes upon >impact? Are there any recommended nets? This certainly doesn't address all your questions but here are some forward tiedowns I made on-the-cheap from rings purchased in the Osh flymart. In the rear of the compartment I have the Van's tiedowns. Both are removable but the forward ones leave a flat floor. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1195078564-350-49 2&browse=airframe&product=tie-down<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bi n/catalog.cgi?ident=1195078564-350-492&browse=airframe&product=tie- down> tailwinds jeff


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    Time: 02:33:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: xxx Re: Pegastol Wings
    From: "RayStL" <ray.stlaurent@vsea.com>
    708 pounds (heavier than I expected) including the unusable fuel. 3 blade Ivo patriot (light) in_flight adjustable 4 cylinders Also relevant to the weight is that I have a heater/fan assembly in the cabin that is attached to the coolant lines. It is painted. I was expecting it to be lighter but when I re-looked at Dedalius's (Pegastol's) example W&B calclations, their empty weight was either 660 or 680 pounds (I don't recall exactly). They built 2 prototypes one had a 912 and the other a 582 so I'm not sure which applied. So maybe with the heavier Suzuki engine assembly and the in-flight adjustable prop, maybe I did not come that much too heavy. Pegastol wings are heavier than the 701's. -- Ray -------- Ray St-Laurent 701/Pegastol wings/Suzuki engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146032#146032


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    Time: 03:09:19 PM PST US
    From: "raymondj" <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Cargo Tie down rings
    Mack, Who offered the seminar and where can I find info on upcoming seminars. Sounds like whoever it is may be willing to address issues many want to ignore. Thanks, Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst." do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mack Kreizenbeck" <aprazer@cableone.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Cargo Tie down rings > <aprazer@cableone.net> > > Ladies and Gents; > I just attended a seminar on how to crash your aircraft and survive. I > would > recommend it to all. It did bring up some questions, i.e., Has anyone > addressed the best way to tie down cargo in the baggage area of the 601? > The > rear area of the baggage compartment is hard to reach -- so the webbing > would have to be permanently attached to the tie downs??? What is the best > way to secure these tie-downs so they don't pull out of their holes upon > impact? Are there any recommended nets? > Mack > > >


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    Time: 04:11:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pegastol Wings
    From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
    Ray, If your willing, some info on the climb and cruise with the prop set for climb...for the ground adjustable only types.. like me :D -------- Kevin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146049#146049


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    Time: 05:05:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pegastol Wings
    From: "RayStL" <ray.stlaurent@vsea.com>
    Sure Kevin. I expect to be collecting quite a bit of data for a while for a number of reasons: 1. There is very little out there for either the Pegastol wing or the Suzuki engine. 2. I do testing for a living so it comes naturally. 3. I might as well do something useful while I burn off that initial 25 hours. -- ray -------- Ray St-Laurent 701/Pegastol wings/Suzuki engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146056#146056


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    Time: 06:46:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pegastol Wings
    From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
    I forgot to post these pics Raymond sent me. Hope you don't mind. Kevin -------- Kevin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146070#146070 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/slatout_183.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/slat2_614.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/slat1_430.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/slat_sortie_425.jpg


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    Time: 08:07:34 PM PST US
    From: David Downey <planecrazydld@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: nutplates
    Hi Gig; look up chobert rivets. They are 3/32 and flat head - originally invented for mounting nutplates. Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair ----- Original Message ---- From: Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:18:50 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Fwd: Fw: nutplates That is great info. The only problem is I can't find a 3/32 pop rivet with a flat or countersunk head. All the ones I can locate are domed. Anyone have a Wick's (or other) part number? -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=145742#145742 Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 08:22:40 PM PST US
    From: "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
    Subject: Almost Ready
    Almost Ready, Friday is the day. Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. HYPERLINK "mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com"president@can-zacaviation.com HYPERLINK "http://www.can-zacaviation.com/"www.can-zacaviation.com 11/14/2007 4:54 PM 11/14/2007 4:54 PM


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    Time: 08:31:53 PM PST US
    From: "ZodieRocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
    Subject: Almost Ready
    OK I know it=92s cheesy but many of you have asked me for it repeatedly and it is just in time for Christmas. Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. HYPERLINK "mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com"president@can-zacaviation.com HYPERLINK "http://www.can-zacaviation.com/"www.can-zacaviation.com 11/14/2007 4:54 PM 11/14/2007 4:54 PM


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    Time: 09:10:09 PM PST US
    From: Ronald Wright <ronwright5@yahoo.com>
    Subject: 601 parts for sale
    I have a pickup truck FULL of parts for sale as a PACKAGE ONLY.. WILL NOT SEPARATE. NO inventory of all the parts. Below is only a partial listing of all the stuff.. 2/3 vertical tails. 2 firewalls formed. 1 complete set of wing spars. 2 sets of wing ribs. Form blocks for the entire airplane. 1 plansets. Flat stock sheets 3 different thicknesses. Box of small parts. Misc. other materials included. Rivets, 2 sizes. 1 horizontal tail frame. 2 coils of aluminum, some drilled for?? (have never uncoiled them).. $5-6K in parts here. First $3500 cash takes it all. Located in St. Louis, MO. Questions, just ask. I am not the builder. Thanks, Ron




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