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1. 02:29 AM - Re: Rotax (Martin Pohl)
2. 02:32 AM - Re: XL baggage compartment fan (Bob Unternaehrer)
3. 03:46 AM - Re: XL baggage compartment fan (kmccune)
4. 03:46 AM - Re: N601KS flies (kmccune)
5. 04:47 AM - Re: Rotax FWF (Geoff Heap)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: XL baggage compartment fan ()
7. 08:13 AM - 701 ,801 struts (Tracy)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: 701 ,801 struts (billmileski)
9. 09:36 AM - Flap position sensor (Jake Reyna)
10. 10:02 AM - Re: Drill Press (ashontz)
11. 10:06 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
12. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: 701 ,801 struts (LarryMcFarland)
13. 10:55 AM - Re: Flap position sensor (Jaybannist@cs.com)
14. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
15. 01:39 PM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
16. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (LarryMcFarland)
17. 01:50 PM - Re: 701 ,801 struts (Art Olechowski)
18. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: 701 ,801 struts (ZodieRocket)
19. 02:10 PM - Re: N601KS flies (Juan Vega)
20. 02:27 PM - Re: Flap position sensor (Bob Unternaehrer)
21. 02:40 PM - Re: XL baggage compartment fan (Bryan Martin)
22. 03:16 PM - Re: N601KS flies (steve)
23. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Art Olechowski)
24. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for
one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that
last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser!
If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available
this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then
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I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
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er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-)
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same.
The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
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Thank you all in advance!
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Right you are, Mark! The Rotax here in Europe suffered 11% increase in price this
year.
Cheers Martin
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Martin Pohl
Zodiac XL QBK
8645 Jona, Switzerland
www.pohltec.ch/ZodiacXL
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| Subject: | Re: XL baggage compartment fan |
Are those computer fans 12VDC. Wouldn't think they would run off the
computer power supply that they are cooling. bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL baggage compartment fan
Ed, I put one of those little computer fans in the top forward skin,
just to move a little air behind the panel and maybe do a light canopy
defogging. Like yours, it is not battle-tested.
Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J
<dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
>
>I have installed two cpu type muffin fans in my Zodiac XL. The bad
news is that it isn't finished so I don't yet know how well they will
work. Here's what I do know;
>
>They are available in lots of sizes and standard cubic feet per
minute (scfm) capacities.
>
>I put a 4" 35 scfm model in the aft baggage bulkhead of my plane. My
purpose was not to keep us cool under the bubble canopy on the ground. I
really don't think it will move enough air to make a significant
difference in that situation. What I think it will do is moveenough air
while parke doout in the sun at a fly-in to keep the cockpit from
becoming a broiler. Ata destination airport, I would use a canopy cover
to reflect most of the sun's energy, but at a fly-in it will sit there
like a greenhouse so the few hours of minor electrical drain may prove
useful. I'll find out later but right now it's a guess.
>
>What I will use during taxi is a custom made strut to support the
canopy in an open position until run-up and take-off.
>
>The second fan is under the C-channel from the bottom center of the
panel to the firewall stiffener. I mounted it there to cool the avionics
which would otherwise sit in an upside down bowl of captured heat under
the forward top skin. I may decide later on to drill some vent holes in
that forward top skin just inside the canopy to use that avionics heat
to defrost the front of the canopy if I see the need.
>
>Dred
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XL baggage compartment fan |
Yes they are 12vdc, this is available on a desk top PC power supply.
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: N601KS flies |
Congrats!
Kevin
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Kevin
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Allan. I can get my Pick list from home tomorrow and scan it Monday. Its for the
912 UL. I don't know the diff between that and the 912S. Email me if you want
it. STOL10 (at) comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: XL baggage compartment fan |
Yep, mine both run on 12VDC,
Dred
---- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote:
> Are those computer fans 12VDC. Wouldn't think they would run off the computer
power supply that they are cooling. bob U.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jaybannist@cs.com
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL baggage compartment fan
>
>
>
> Ed, I put one of those little computer fans in the top forward skin, just to
move a little air behind the panel and maybe do a light canopy defogging. Like
yours, it is not battle-tested.
>
> Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J
>
>
> <dredmoody@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >I have installed two cpu type muffin fans in my Zodiac XL. The bad news is
that it isn't finished so I don't yet know how well they will work. Here's what
I do know;
> >
> >They are available in lots of sizes and standard cubic feet per minute (scfm)
capacities.
> >
> >I put a 4" 35 scfm model in the aft baggage bulkhead of my plane. My purpose
was not to keep us cool under the bubble canopy on the ground. I really don't
think it will move enough air to make a significant difference in that situation.
What I think it will do is moveenough air while parke doout in the sun
at a fly-in to keep the cockpit from becoming a broiler. Ata destination airport,
I would use a canopy cover to reflect most of the sun's energy, but at a fly-in
it will sit there like a greenhouse so the few hours of minor electrical
drain may prove useful. I'll find out later but right now it's a guess.
> >
> >What I will use during taxi is a custom made strut to support the canopy in
an open position until run-up and take-off.
> >
> >The second fan is under the C-channel from the bottom center of the panel
to the firewall stiffener. I mounted it there to cool the avionics which would
otherwise sit in an upside down bowl of captured heat under the forward top skin.
I may decide later on to drill some vent holes in that forward top skin just
inside the canopy to use that avionics heat to defrost the front of the canopy
if I see the need.
> >
> >Dred
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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What if anything has anyone done about corrosion protection on701 and 801 stuts?
they are open on top and bottom ,that can easilly lead to rusting on the inside
on the tubing ,not easilly seen or inspected !
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| Subject: | Re: 701 ,801 struts |
After installation (a bad time to do this) I plugged the bottom of the struts with
sticky electrical putty sealer and filled the struts with warmed linseed oil,
then drained it out at the bottom. Made a terrible mess. To do over, I'd
probably (before installation), liberally pour a good metal primer inside, turn
them to ensure coverage, let it drip out and dry. Seems like a more permanent
solution. This is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of outside storage for these
light aircraft.
Bill Mileski
701 912S 114hrs
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| Subject: | Flap position sensor |
Here is my low cost solution, $50, to a flap position
sensor. I'm putting this in the public domain for all
to use.
It starts with the standard VW fuel sender used in the
XL. I realized that the fuel sender is just a position
sensor and with minor modifications could be used for
a flap position sender. I purchased a Equus #7361 fuel
gauge for $17 from Schucks and the fuel sender
#221-012 from egauges.com, $24.
Go to www.413sx.com for pictures of the prototype.
I used a piece of Z channel to mount the fuel sender.
The Z is not level to compensate for the flap tube
dropping as it extends. I used a tie wrap on the flap
tube with a second linked like a chain for the fuel
sender rod. The tie wrap for the sender rod should be
at least 1/4" diameter so the sender rod doesn't bind.
Remember, things are moving back and forth and up and
down. Another option would be to use a radiator clamp
on the flap tube with a small D-ring for the fuel
sender rod.
I was able to pry off the trim ring on the fuel gauge
and remove the face to repaint black. Ended up wiping
off the existing paint with acetone and then very
lightly spraying with flat black. Once the fuel sender
was installed in the position that allowed for the
correct travel, I marked the fuel gauge with the max
up and down position. I will make intermediate marks,
1/3 and 2/3 flap when the wing is installed.
This is easier to do if you haven't riveted the side
skin.
One more note. I'm going to be using the Oregon Aero
portable seat cushions. I had a bottom, it's in the
picture and the back piece of plywood matches the
height of the Oregon Aero full back. They are a bit
pricey, but no more than what is available for the XL.
Jake
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You crack me up man.
Geoff Heap wrote:
> ...and if you're really stuck for floor space..see pic
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas weld my
tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that kind of money
I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
[quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three nose ribs inboard
of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on the end of the
tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these "costly" tanks. I
ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and cant believe the $$$$$.
Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in business...
SW
> ---
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CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: 701 ,801 struts |
Bill,
The warm linseed oil solution is excellent and a reason many Stinson
aircraft are still flying. Common primers, other than fish-oil-base or
epoxy primers, are not water-proof, but will hold water and wick to the
metal. Go with the linseed oil.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
billmileski wrote:
>
> After installation (a bad time to do this) I plugged the bottom of the struts
with sticky electrical putty sealer and filled the struts with warmed linseed
oil, then drained it out at the bottom. Made a terrible mess. To do over, I'd
probably (before installation), liberally pour a good metal primer inside, turn
them to ensure coverage, let it drip out and dry. Seems like a more permanent
solution. This is one of the reasons I'm not a fan of outside storage for
these light aircraft.
>
> Bill Mileski
> 701 912S 114hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149652#149652
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap position sensor |
Jake,
Not to disparage your ingenuity or your creativity, but I will be using a somewhat
more reliable and less expensive flap position sensor, actually sensors. They
are blue and I got them with the birth package, so they were essentially free.
Mine happen to be a little high maintenance, though: glasses, cataract removal,
detached retina, etc. With the XL, my take is that they are either up
or down, not "nuanced" between.
Your solution is quite clever. Have fun!
Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J
Jake Reyna <jakereyna@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Here is my low cost solution, $50, to a flap position
>sensor. I'm putting this in the public domain for all
>to use.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
If you ordered that crap they show using a torch and some rods don't waste
your money. Trust me you will do nothing but make a lot of scrap metal.
In a message dated 11/30/2007 1:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ashontz@nbme.org writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas weld
my tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that kind of
money I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
[quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three nose
ribs inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on the end
of
the tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these "costly"
tanks. I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and cant believe
the $$$$$.
Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in
business...
SW
> ---
--------
Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
We'll see how it turns out. Apparently it's all about the flux, and you need special
googles when working with certain fluxes for aluminum.
Apparently there's some way to weld it, and I suspect this is the best way. Everything
I've heard about TIG welding is not great either, the splatter from that
can burn a bunch of little pin holes all over the place.
Worse case I'm out $75 for an aluminum welding kit and $20 worth of sheet metal.
At least I'll have tried. I suspect it will work though. And no, this is not
brazing, it's welding, with either a MAPP torch or acetyleine.
Larry McFarland welded his own tanks with some patience, he's the man! I'll give
it a try. That's what homebuilding is about, self-education. 3 years ago my
neighbor had a smirk on his face when he saw I was building a plane. He doesn't
smirk anymore. Meanwhile Mr. Smirky still spends his saturdays helping his wife
grocery shop. I'll at least try welding them myself. Apparently it comes with
a VHS video. Now I can't imagine them making a VHS video of a guy welding
with said supplies, actually making a welding on video, and then me taking some
scrap pieces and having total bum luck with it and not even be able to rudimentally
join a bunch of scrap pieces that I can learn from before proceeding to
the tank. That just doesn't make sense.
[quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]If you ordered that crap they show using a torch
and some rods don't waste your money. Trust me you will do nothing but make
a lot of scrap metal.
In a message dated 11/30/2007 1:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ashontz@nbme.org
writes:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz"
>
> I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas weld
my tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that kind of
money I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
>
> [quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three nose ribs
inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on the end
of the tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these "costly"
tanks. I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and cant believe
the $$$$$.
> Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in business...
>
> SW
>
>
> > ---
> >
> >
>
>
> --------
> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149665#149665
>
>
>
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www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
Excellent decision Andy,
I welded my tanks and re-learned a great deal doing them. You might be
interested in visiting my Journal section 2, March 29th thru May as I
recorded the most important
solutions, issues and difficulties in producing these tanks. Also have
a picture pages on header tank and leading edge tanks and the methods
used to get fixture and jigs to hold them while welding. (see links) I
found the overlap weld seam a much stronger joint than the barrel type
edge weld and much less obstructive to place in a wing.
www.macsmachine.com/html/leadedgetanks.htm
www.macsmachine.com/html/headertank.htm
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
ashontz wrote:
>
> I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas weld my
tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that kind of money
I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
>
> [quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three nose ribs
inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on the end of the
tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these "costly" tanks.
I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and cant believe the $$$$$.
> Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in business...
>
> SW
>
>
> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 ,801 struts |
Plug the lower end with duct tape, fill it with warm linseed oil, let it set for
a couple hours
repeat every annual or sooner depending on geographical location.
Art
--- Tracy <pbuttles@charter.net> wrote:
>
> What if anything has anyone done about corrosion protection on701 and 801 stuts?
> they are open on top and bottom ,that can easilly lead to rusting on the inside
on the tubing
> ,not easilly seen or inspected !
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 ,801 struts |
I also use the warmed Linseed oil, it is a worthy practice.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 701 ,801 struts
<larry@macsmachine.com>
Bill,
The warm linseed oil solution is excellent and a reason many Stinson
aircraft are still flying. Common primers, other than fish-oil-base or
epoxy primers, are not water-proof, but will hold water and wick to the
metal. Go with the linseed oil.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
billmileski wrote:
<william.mileski@gmail.com>
>
> After installation (a bad time to do this) I plugged the bottom of the
struts with sticky electrical putty sealer and filled the struts with
warmed linseed oil, then drained it out at the bottom. Made a terrible
mess. To do over, I'd probably (before installation), liberally pour a
good metal primer inside, turn them to ensure coverage, let it drip out
and dry. Seems like a more permanent solution. This is one of the
reasons I'm not a fan of outside storage for these light aircraft.
>
> Bill Mileski
> 701 912S 114hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149652#149652
>
>
>
11/29/2007 8:32 PM
11/29/2007 8:32 PM
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| Subject: | Re: N601KS flies |
pictures..... we nedd pictures!
-----Original Message-----
>From: ken smith <lrepilot@yahoo.com>
>Sent: Nov 29, 2007 6:56 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, corvaircraft@mylist.net
>Subject: Zenith-List: N601KS flies
>
>
>My 601XL flew for the first time today, Bill Clapp
>tokk it up for me, and reports that it flew well. It's
>my turn tomorrow.
>
>Ken
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>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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| Subject: | Re: Flap position sensor |
My method also, however a flap indicator might be ok so it's in front of
you and MIGHT, but probably not, prevent a Flap Down, heavily loaded
go-around, maybe with a little ice on the wings.......want any more
killer ideas. some planes don't fly so good that way. I put a bigger
engine in my c-150 so I could make some of those mistakes. My flap
indicator on the c-150 is "lever up and in my way" is flaps down. bob
U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jaybannist@cs.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Flap position sensor
Jake,
Not to disparage your ingenuity or your creativity, but I will be
using a somewhat more reliable and less expensive flap position sensor,
actually sensors. They are blue and I got them with the birth package,
so they were essentially free. Mine happen to be a little high
maintenance, though: glasses, cataract removal, detached retina, etc.
With the XL, my take is that they are either up or down, not "nuanced"
between.
Your solution is quite clever. Have fun!
Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J
Jake Reyna <jakereyna@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Here is my low cost solution, $50, to a flap position
>sensor. I'm putting this in the public domain for all
>to use.
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| Subject: | Re: XL baggage compartment fan |
Nearly every circuit in a personal computer runs on 12VDC or less.
Most of the circuits run on 5VDC or less.
On Nov 30, 2007, at 5:28 AM, Bob Unternaehrer wrote:
> Are those computer fans 12VDC. Wouldn't think they would run off
> the computer power supply that they are cooling. bob U.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: N601KS flies |
YES! We nedd pictures....... ?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
<corvaircraft@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N601KS flies
>
> pictures..... we nedd pictures!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: ken smith <lrepilot@yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Nov 29, 2007 6:56 PM
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com, corvaircraft@mylist.net
>>Subject: Zenith-List: N601KS flies
>>
>>
>>My 601XL flew for the first time today, Bill Clapp
>>tokk it up for me, and reports that it flew well. It's
>>my turn tomorrow.
>>
>>Ken
>>
>>
>>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
>>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
Find a cheap stick welder and convert it to a tig to weld the aluminum and use
the oxy/acetylene
for the steel. Here's the link for the conversion kit if your interested:
http://www.tigdepot.net/products_details2.php?productid=197
Art
--- Afterfxllc@aol.com wrote:
> If you ordered that crap they show using a torch and some rods don't waste
> your money. Trust me you will do nothing but make a lot of scrap metal.
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> In a message dated 11/30/2007 1:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ashontz@nbme.org writes:
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
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> I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas weld
> my tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that kind of
> money I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
>
> [quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three nose
> ribs inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on the end
of
> the tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these "costly"
> tanks. I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and cant believe
> the $$$$$.
> Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in
> business...
>
> SW
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> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
I have the video and I bought the rods and trust me you don't want to use
this stuff on your fuel tanks. If it is the one where they show the guy filling
a hole in a soda can you are just asking to shorten your life span even if
you did somehow get the stuff to hold. I understand you are trying to save
money but what you are talking about is just plain dangerous If it the same stuff
I bought.
Jeff
In a message dated 11/30/2007 4:40:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ashontz@nbme.org writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
We'll see how it turns out. Apparently it's all about the flux, and you need
special googles when working with certain fluxes for aluminum.
Apparently there's some way to weld it, and I suspect this is the best way.
Everything I've heard about TIG welding is not great either, the splatter
from that can burn a bunch of little pin holes all over the place.
Worse case I'm out $75 for an aluminum welding kit and $20 worth of sheet
metal. At least I'll have tried. I suspect it will work though. And no, this is
not brazing, it's welding, with either a MAPP torch or acetyleine.
Larry McFarland welded his own tanks with some patience, he's the man! I'll
give it a try. That's what homebuilding is about, self-education. 3 years ago
my neighbor had a smirk on his face when he saw I was building a plane. He
doesn't smirk anymore. Meanwhile Mr. Smirky still spends his saturdays helping
his wife grocery shop. I'll at least try welding them myself. Apparently it
comes with a VHS video. Now I can't imagine them making a VHS video of a guy
welding with said supplies, actually making a welding on video, and then me
taking some scrap pieces and having total bum luck with it and not even be
able to rudimentally join a bunch of scrap pieces that I can learn from before
proceeding to the tank. That just doesn't make sense.
[quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]If you ordered that crap they show using a
torch and some rods don't waste your money. Trust me you will do nothing but
make a lot of scrap metal.
In a message dated 11/30/2007 1:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ashontz@nbme.org writes:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz"
>
> I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video to gas
weld my tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid that
kind of money I want some tools and skills out of it I can have forever.
>
> [quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are three
nose ribs inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the senders on
the end of the tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these
"costly" tanks. I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here and
cant believe the $$$$$.
> Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us in
business...
>
> SW
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> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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