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1. 04:16 AM - Re: Dual Stick option (ZodieRocket)
2. 04:26 AM - Re: Wing Lockers (Tim Juhl)
3. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Bob Unternaehrer)
4. 06:45 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
5. 06:48 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
6. 06:53 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Dual Stick option need help and advice (Gig Giacona)
8. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
9. 07:44 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
10. 09:12 AM - Re: 601 HD power VS speed (eedetail)
11. 10:06 AM - Extended Range Tank Sender Inspection Cover-revisited (N732JH)
12. 10:56 AM - Re: Extended Range Tank Sender Inspection Cover-revisited (swater6)
13. 01:47 PM - pegastrol wings foldable? (mikef)
14. 02:35 PM - Jabiru Engine Seminar (Pete Krotje)
15. 02:38 PM - Fuel Level Senders (dingfelder)
16. 02:57 PM - Re: Fuel Level Senders (swater6)
17. 03:01 PM - Re: XL Landing gear nuts Torque (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
18. 03:08 PM - Re: pegastrol wings foldable? (RayStL)
19. 03:23 PM - Fuel senders revisited...... (steve)
20. 03:44 PM - Re: Fuel Level Senders (Larry Winger)
21. 05:23 PM - Chat Room Tonight (George Race)
22. 06:22 PM - Re: Fuel Level Senders (swater6)
23. 06:35 PM - Re: pegastrol wings foldable? (LRM)
24. 07:02 PM - Re: Fuel senders revisited...... (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
25. 07:24 PM - CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook (Dan Forney)
26. 08:03 PM - Avex Rivets (Jugle)
27. 08:04 PM - Re: pegastrol wings foldable? (Tracy)
28. 08:10 PM - Re: pegastrol wings foldable? (mikef)
29. 08:34 PM - Instruments for sale- some just for the 912 (SUE MICHAELS)
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| Subject: | Dual Stick option |
IF you got the dual stick, but not the pages just give Shirley a call at
Zenith. She will send you out the pages you need.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mosquito56
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:30 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Dual Stick option
<mosquito-56@hotmail.com>
If anyone can scan the ds1-3 pages and e-mail em to me I would
appreciate it. The kit I bought was with the Y control and I got the
dual stick option later. I don't have any of the dual stick pages.
Mosquito-56@hotmail.com
Thanx
12/2/2007 11:30 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Lockers |
Wings lockers can involve a lot of "fiddling and filing" when you install them
but I think the end result is worthwhile. I like the fact that they are closer
to the CG than the other baggage area. I agree that you do not want to move
them further out on the wing As far as strength is concerned, I do not believe
there is any net loss. The addition of the rear bulkhead may actually beef
the wing up a little.
You could install them later but do you really want to drill out all those rivets
in the spar and ribs in order to install the hinge and Dzus strips (not to
mention installing the rear baggage bulkhead). It is so much easier to deburr
holes and insure a clean install when you can disassemble the pieces and prep
them prior to final assembly. I suggest that you'll be happier with the result
if you make the decision now rather than put it off.
Good luck!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
One of the things you will NOT be able to do is put the "reverse
polarity" ball on the end of the electrode before switching to aluminum.
Some don't think that is necessary, but I do. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Olechowski
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks.
<ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>
Bob,
My stick machine is AC only. Last I remember AC was one suitable
method for welding alum.
Art
--- Bob Unternaehrer <shilocom@mcmsys.com> wrote:
> I guess for polarity reversal when going from 4130 to aluminum you
will have to rig up a way to
> switch the leads unless your dc machine has straight and reverse
polarity. Bob U.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Art Olechowski
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks.
>
>
<ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Find a cheap stick welder and convert it to a tig to weld the
aluminum and use the
> oxy/acetylene
> for the steel. Here's the link for the conversion kit if your
interested:
>
> http://www.tigdepot.net/products_details2.php?productid=197
>
> Art
> --- Afterfxllc@aol.com wrote:
>
> > If you ordered that crap they show using a torch and some rods
don't waste
> > your money. Trust me you will do nothing but make a lot of scrap
metal.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2007 1:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time,
> > ashontz@nbme.org writes:
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
> >
> > I hear ya. I just ordered some stuff and an instructional video
to gas weld
> > my tanks. At least if I'm going to spend even half or a thrid
that kind of
> > money I want some tools and skills out of it I can have
forever.
> >
> > [quote="notsew_evets(at)frontiern"]My QBK is # 55. There are
three nose
> > ribs inboard of the tank. I assume I need to install the
senders on the end of
> > the tank. Its no problem but I didnt want to screw up these
"costly"
> > tanks. I ve been watching your discussion of tank costs here
and cant believe
> > the $$$$$.
> > Heck, about $6 of sheet aluminum and a tig welder would put us
in
> > business...
> >
> > SW
> >
> > > ---
> >
> >
> > --------
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> > CH601XL - Corvair
> > www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=149665#149665
> >
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
This is not soldering or brazing, it's welding. An acetyline torch reaches 6500
degrees, oxy-MAPP, 6200 degrees. Aluminum melts at 1250 degrees. It's welding.
I asked them about this, it's welding, not brazing. Back when, all welding was
gas welding. This is welding. I will do many test pieces to confirm this.
No, it's not the soda can people.
Arc welding makes a ton of splatter. Each of those splatters creates tiny pinholes
in the metal.
Even so, if I'm not satisfied with these welds I will try TIG welding. From what
I understand, for best results TIG welding you need A/C current for aluminum,
so simply converting a MIG to a TIG ain't necessarily going to cut it. You'd
be better off buying some components and actually building a TIG welder rather
than spending $2,500 for something approaching a reasonable TIG welder.
Believe me, I understand the hazards of gasoline. I want these tanks WELDED, not
brazed, not soldered, WELDED, AND I don't want a bazillion little pin holes
in it either.
[quote="shilcom"]I do have the "stuff" in a few places, not generally on the airplane.
One of the problems is "they" call it welding and it's actually "soldering".
One of the differences is the metals being attached don't reach melting
temperatures like they do with welding. If one approaches the connection
and the connection needs with the properties of "soldering" in mind it CAN
work well. Clean joint with correct tools and good "lapping type" fit up.
I think an improvement could also be made with the "Proper" cleaning type flux,
but I haven't seen one being reccommended. I used silver solder flux once
and it seemed to work good. bob U.
> ---
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
One thing I'd be sure to do is put some rubber over that electrical connection.
If the tank rattles around at all or you get a slight dent need that sender,
that's 12 volts shorting out right on top of fuel.
[quote="ernieth(at)gmail.com"]Paul,
I like your reasoning on this.
Thanks.
Do Not Archive.
On Nov 28, 2007 3:47 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I have a fairly recent standard XL kit. I installed the senders on the tank
tops. This seemed the easiest way to prevent most leaking (at least if the tank
is not overfilled) and I just didn't worry about repairing a failed sender.
In truth, my flying always considered fuel gauges as nice ornaments, while
fuel management was done with timing and planning. Also my preflight inspection
always includes a visual inspection of fuel levels in the tanks. That means
if the sender fails to properly indicate the correct level that is not much
of a problem, but if it leaks all your fuel then it can be a huge problem.
>
> The senders I installed came in the kit and fit neatly under the skin. I understand
there are different ones that have a ground stud that interferes with
the skin that need to be shortened.
>
> One note for all those folks who are considering welding their own aluminium
tanks, I would suggest starting your TIG welding projects with something easier
to accomplish. Welding thin aluminum qualifies as the most difficult kind
of welding there is and requires a great deal of skill and experience.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
>
>
>
> At 04:40 PM 11/27/2007, you wrote:
>
> > Speaking of fuel senders in your tanks,,,,
> > I m about to cut into my 601 XL tanks to install the sending units.
> > My plans show the hole in the end of the tank and my CD shows the hole on
the top just in front of the spar.
> > What did you guys do ??
> > Seems like on top would be best and not leak....
> > If its installed on the inboard end as per plans, can the unit be removed
thru the access hole if needed ?
> >
> > SW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [b]
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
Larry McFarland welded his tanks.
psm(at)ATT.NET wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> I suggest you invest in an instructional book on welding along with
> your new equipment. Nearly all welding suppliers have the one I
> bought several years ago - "Welder's Handbook" by Finch. It will
> tell you which welding technique will work for which base metal and
> which technique will not.
>
> Aluminum is extremely hard to weld for two simple reasons. First,
> you can't see when it is getting hot because it melts before changing
> color - unlike steel which gets nice and red before melting. Second,
> aluminum is an excellent conductor which means the heat you apply
> gets carried quickly away from the point you apply it. That means
> you need a much higher power welding system for aluminum than for
> steel. There is also the fact that aluminum oxidizes so quickly and
> the oxide is invisible but will ruin a weld. I have heard it is
> possible to gas weld aluminum, but you will need a heavy duty
> oxy-acetylene rig. I don't think a mapp gas setup will work. Your
> chances of success will be a lot greater with TIG.
>
> TIG welding should not spatter at all. If it does, you are doing
> something very wrong. For aluminum, you need an A/C power supply
> which is not found on the low end welders. An entry level A/C TIG
> welding rig will cost around $1200 if you shop carefully. The bigger
> professional class units with a high duty cycle and water cooling
> will be more like $5,000. Add to that another hundred or so for a
> bottle of shield gas and you are ready to start. You also need
> appropriate filler metal rods - different ones for each type of base
> metal you want to weld. Did I mention another hundred or two for a
> good self darkening helmet? I strongly urge you to not skimp on that
> part since you will surely blind yourself with improper (or
> improperly used) eye protection.
>
> Of course, the price of the required equipment is more than the price
> of the tanks from ZAC. Then you need to spend the required time to
> learn how to do the incredibly hard task of welding aluminum and then
> adjust it to very thin aluminum.
>
> I will give you credit though. You are facing a monumental task with
> little chance of success.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
>
>
> At 01:38 PM 11/30/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> > Apparently there's some way to weld it, and I suspect this is the
> > best way. Everything I've heard about TIG welding is not great
> > either, the splatter from that can burn a bunch of little pin holes
> > all over the place.
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dual Stick option need help and advice |
Call Zenith they should have included them.
mosquito56 wrote:
> If anyone can scan the ds1-3 pages and e-mail em to me I would appreciate it.
The kit I bought was with the Y control and I got the dual stick option later.
I don't have any of the dual stick pages.
>
> Mosquito-56@hotmail.com
> Thanx
>
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
The fuel sender doesn't see 12 volts it is reduced down by the gauge and has
a very low voltage I think if I remember it was less than 1 volt.
In a message dated 12/3/2007 9:49:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ashontz@nbme.org writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
One thing I'd be sure to do is put some rubber over that electrical
connection. If the tank rattles around at all or you get a slight dent need that
sender, that's 12 volts shorting out right on top of fuel.
[quote="ernieth(at)gmail.com"]Paul,
I like your reasoning on this.
Thanks.
Do Not Archive.
On Nov 28, 2007 3:47 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I have a fairly recent standard XL kit. I installed the senders on the
tank tops. This seemed the easiest way to prevent most leaking (at least if
the tank is not overfilled) and I just didn't worry about repairing a failed
sender. In truth, my flying always considered fuel gauges as nice ornaments,
while fuel management was done with timing and planning. Also my preflight
inspection always includes a visual inspection of fuel levels in the tanks.
That means if the sender fails to properly indicate the correct level that is
not much of a problem, but if it leaks all your fuel then it can be a huge
problem.
>
> The senders I installed came in the kit and fit neatly under the skin. I
understand there are different ones that have a ground stud that interferes
with the skin that need to be shortened.
>
> One note for all those folks who are considering welding their own
aluminium tanks, I would suggest starting your TIG welding projects with something
easier to accomplish. Welding thin aluminum qualifies as the most difficult
kind of welding there is and requires a great deal of skill and experience.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Paul
> XL fuselage
>
>
>
> At 04:40 PM 11/27/2007, you wrote:
>
> > Speaking of fuel senders in your tanks,,,,
> > I m about to cut into my 601 XL tanks to install the sending units.
> > My plans show the hole in the end of the tank and my CD shows the hole
on the top just in front of the spar.
> > What did you guys do ??
> > Seems like on top would be best and not leak....
> > If its installed on the inboard end as per plans, can the unit be
removed thru the access hole if needed ?
> >
> > SW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> [b]
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
I never tested one, sounds familiar though. I know it's supposed to be low volts,
didn't know if they meant 12 volts low or way low volts like you said, 1 volt.
If that's the case then it sounds like nothing to worry about. ! volt isn't
going to spark for sure.
[quote="Afterfxllc(at)aol.com"]The fuel sender doesn't see 12 volts it is reduced
down by the gauge and has a very low voltage I think if I remember it was
less than 1 volt.
In a message dated 12/3/2007 9:49:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, ashontz@nbme.org
writes:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz"
>
> One thing I'd be sure to do is put some rubber over that electrical connection.
If the tank rattles around at all or you get a slight dent need that
sender, that's 12 volts shorting out right on top of fuel.
>
> [quote="ernieth(at)gmail.com"]Paul,
>
> I like your reasoning on this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> On Nov 28, 2007 3:47 PM, Paul Mulwitz wrote:
>
>
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I have a fairly recent standard XL kit. I installed the senders on the
tank tops. This seemed the easiest way to prevent most leaking (at least
if the tank is not overfilled) and I just didn't worry about repairing a failed
sender. In truth, my flying always considered fuel gauges as nice ornaments,
while fuel management was done with timing and planning. Also my
preflight inspection always includes a visual inspection of fuel levels in
the tanks. That means if the sender fails to properly indicate the correct
level that is not much of a problem, but if it leaks all your fuel then it
can be a huge problem.
> >
> > ? The senders I installed came in the kit and fit neatly under the skin.?
I understand there are different ones that have a ground stud that interferes
with the skin that need to be shortened.
> >
> > One note for all those folks who are considering welding their own aluminium
tanks, I would suggest starting your TIG welding projects with something
easier to accomplish. Welding thin aluminum qualifies as the most difficult
kind of welding there is and requires a great deal of skill and experience.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Paul
> > XL fuselage
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:40 PM 11/27/2007, you wrote:
> >
> > > Speaking of fuel senders in your tanks,,,,
> > > I m about to cut into my 601 XL tanks to install the sending units.
> > > My plans show the hole in the end of the tank and my CD shows the hole
on the top just in front of the spar.
> > > What did you guys do ??
> > > Seems like on top would be best and not leak....
> > > If its installed on the inboard end as per plans, can the unit be removed
thru the access hole if needed ?
> > >
> > > SW
> > >?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [b]
> >
> >
>
>
> --------
> Andy Shontz
> CH601XL - Corvair
> www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 HD power VS speed |
I am swinging a 3-blade, 68" ivo inflight adjustable.
TimE
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| Subject: | Extended Range Tank Sender Inspection Cover-revisited |
Hello,
I've found several posts addressing this issue, but haven't found a clear answer.
Problem: The top mounted sender is 3-5mm beneath the wing skin and could easily
short out if the tank expands.
Is there a manufactured domed inspection Cover recommended that would both allow
clearance and access to the sender?
I just found this list--wish I'd known when I started my 701 project 3 years ago.
I'm almost finished--finish the instrument panel and mount the wings.
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| Subject: | Re: Extended Range Tank Sender Inspection Cover-revisited |
I have an XL with the older 11 gallon tanks. My senders are on top with similar
clearance. I added round access panels knowing I'll most certainly need to
replace them some day. Or, if they leak, I'll be able to remedy the problem easily.
In the picture attached, I've applied liquid electrical tape which is why they
are black. I also glued a thin piece of nylon, similar to fairlead materia,l to
the inside of the access panel to prevent contact with the cover.
AMD mounts the senders for the factory built XL in the same position as mine. They
use a square cover but I like the round better. I think Cessna uses access
panels over the senders too.
Scott
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601 XL kit
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage
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| Subject: | pegastrol wings foldable? |
Hi,
I am new to the Ch 701 and was wondering if the pegastrol wings are foldable, as
found in the Zenithair options?
Thanks in advance,
Mike
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine Seminar |
Hello All,
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft has scheduled another "Jabiru Engine Repair &
Maintenance Seminar" for February 1st through February 3rd , 2008. The
seminar will again be held at our Shelbyville headquarters. Class is
limited to 10 enrollees. Topics covered will be routine maintenance,
installation issues, and engine repair through the top overhaul. It will be
a "hands on" seminar working with a Jabiru 3300 which will be taken apart
and rebuilt in the top overhaul procedure.
Please see details and registration form on www.usjabiru.com .
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Fuel Level Senders |
Does anyone know what the operating ohm range is on the Zenith
supplied fuel level senders? I'm Trying to determine if the Westach
WS2DA4 dual guage will read them correctly.
Lynn
Corry, PA 601XL / Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Level Senders |
My memory says 10-180. I have Mitchel gauges from ACS that match. Also, if memory
serves, there aren't a lot of aircraft guages that are that range. I'll
confirm this evening...
Scott
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601 XL kit
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: XL Landing gear nuts Torque |
Talked to zenith today and asked if we torque the landing gear nut to the
specs or just snug and they said it can be torque to specs but good and tight is
fine also. I told them I would tighten mine down until the angle just
started to bend and give them the torque and they said they would post it in the
updates. It's funny how so many have been built and the question has never come
up.
Jeff
In a message dated 12/2/2007 12:48:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Afterfxllc@aol.com writes:
I don't think that is correct... you don't want any flexing at the angle. I
torque mine to the proper torque specs for the nut and it did bend the angle
slightly. I would call Zenith on this one. If you look at the photos theirs is
bent also.
Jeff
In a message dated 12/2/2007 8:32:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bryanmmartin@comcast.net writes:
If you torque it to the standard value for that nut, you will bend the
aluminum extrusion holding the gear spring in place. The gear spring has to pivot
some at that point as you load and unload the mains. I just tightened the
nuts until the rubber strips were compressed a bit and the extrusion wasn't
distorted. It's kind of like the engine mount bolts with the rubber cones, they
need to be snug but not over tightened.
On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:02 AM, chris Sinfield wrote:
<_chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au_ (mailto:chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au) >
Hi all
Today we stood it on the gear, what a sight. Now for the life of me I cant
find the torque required on the nut before I drill it and split pin. Those of
you how are already there where did you find it ? Is it just the normal
torque for that size nut from the figures on the new CS page 35??
Chris.
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| Subject: | Re: pegastrol wings foldable? |
Not the original ones that came from Dedalius. Don't know about the Raymond version.
-- ray
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701/Pegastol wings/Suzuki engine
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| Subject: | Fuel senders revisited...... |
Since I asked about the best position for the placement of fuel senders
many have emailed me directly. Thanks ..
I did install the senders as Zenith instructed but I m still worried.
Everything went smoothly and the senders are in and done!. I just dont
like the amount of rubber gasket that seals the tank. There is about
1/16 of an inch all the way around the opening that the gasket seals.
Sure it possible to repair or fix the sender if it leaks but I dont
think its an easy job...
One emailer sent pictures showing an inspection cover plate he made for
the top skin. It looks very good and his top mounted sender would be
much easier to get to.....
If mine leaks I think I just might "cap off" the side holes and do the
top mount thing.
I just got to tell ya, This website and you guys are awesome. If you
were not on my PC screen I d be talking to myself.... even more...
Steve Weston
BullHead City, Arizona
Sun Valley Airpark
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Level Senders |
70 to 10.
Larry Winger
601XL/Corvair
Tustin, CA
On Dec 3, 2007 2:37 PM, dingfelder <ding@tbscc.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know what the operating ohm range is on the Zenith
> supplied fuel level senders? I'm Trying to determine if the Westach WS2DA4
> dual guage will read them correctly.
>
> Lynn
>
Corry,
> PA 601XL / Corvair
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Chat Room Tonight |
<http://chat.iahu.ca/> Click the following link to join in the 8:00 PM EST
Chat Room this evening. http://chat.iahu.ca/
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Level Senders |
It depends on the sender that you have. Some are 10 to 70.
The VDO sender that came with earlier kits is 10 to 180. 10 ohms when empty and
180 when full. The part number is 226 002. This is the older sender that needed
the top bolts filed down. I'm not sure what the range is for the newer sender
Zenith now uses.
The fuel gauge that I have for 10-180 ohms is a Mitchell part number 10-25130 from
Aircraft Spruce (D1-211-5074 Mitchell number)
Hope this helps.
Scott
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601 XL kit
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage
www.scottwaters.com
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| Subject: | Re: pegastrol wings foldable? |
NO, skyhawg.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "mikef" <mikefapex@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: pegastrol wings foldable?
>
> Hi,
>
> I am new to the Ch 701 and was wondering if the pegastrol wings are
> foldable, as found in the Zenithair options?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=150235#150235
>
>
> --
> 12/3/2007 12:20 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel senders revisited...... |
We always use pro seal before we put in the sender then add some around the
screws that way if the rubber gasket dry's out or would have leaked it can't
but it would be a pain in the arse if you ever had to replace it but I figure
anything involved in the tank area is a pain to get to anyway.
In a message dated 12/3/2007 6:24:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
notsew_evets@frontiernet.net writes:
Since I asked about the best position for the placement of fuel senders many
have emailed me directly. Thanks ..
I did install the senders as Zenith instructed but I m still worried.
Everything went smoothly and the senders are in and done!. I just dont like
the
amount of rubber gasket that seals the tank. There is about 1/16 of an
inch all the way around the opening that the gasket seals. Sure it possible to
repair or fix the sender if it leaks but I dont think its an easy job...
One emailer sent pictures showing an inspection cover plate he made for the
top skin. It looks very good and his top mounted sender would be much easier
to get to.....
If mine leaks I think I just might "cap off" the side holes and do the top
mount thing.
I just got to tell ya, This website and you guys are awesome. If you were
not on my PC screen I d be talking to myself.... even more...
Steve Weston
BullHead City, Arizona
Sun Valley Airpark
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| Subject: | CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook |
Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a Pilot's Operating Handbook
for the CH601HDS and if so how I might get a copy of one?
Thanks,
Dan
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Hello all,
I've been looking at the price of rivets on the Zenith site and comparing with
those from Aircraft Spruce. The Aircraft Spruce ones are substantially cheaper
but are they suitable? They refer to them as Avex Non-structural Blind Rivets,
countersunk Part Nos. 1604-0412, 1604-0514 and 1604-0615. Are these the correct
type?
I got a quote from Zenith for a hardware box which goes for $425.00 but apparently
it doesn't include rivets.
What have you other scratchbuilders done?
Thanks in advance,
Glenn
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601XL- just started.
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| Subject: | Re: pegastrol wings foldable? |
The folding wing option for the 701
is not very practical,it takes just as long to take the wings off
normally ,they fold up really high in the air-- make great sails!
it is not very tow able that way,
the folding wing kit option has a tube permanently mounted under the main spar
crossover tube inside the cabin!!!
and they use quick disconnects on the fuel lines ,does not come with any for the
light wires ,the gas gauge wires and the pitot tube!!
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| Subject: | Re: pegastrol wings foldable? |
Thanks everyone for that information. It seems those who fly with the Pegastol
wings really like them. I can see how when folded up the might present a lot of
sail area when towing.
Can the Pegastol wings simply be removed if necessary? Is that a big deal to do?
Thanks again,
Mike
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| Subject: | Instruments for sale- some just for the 912 |
All brand new in the box taken out for accept for pictures. You will need to
give me you e-mail address for a couple of pictures as I have not figured out
how to reduce pixels with Verizon e-mail. I decided to go with all glass and
a couple small instruments as a back up.
I would like to sell all to one person who needs it all, but will consider separating.
Instruments: cheapest in aircraft spruce actual
cost of my instrument
3 1/8"
Airspeed to 160 MPH 118.00 USDA 129.0.00
Altimeter 20,000 ft w/ window 230.00 230.00
Vertical speed indicator 115.00
130.00
Quad Gage 435.00 + sending units 430.00
(includes oil temp &
(oil temp and oil pressure /
oil pressure) (need EGT/CHT)
EGT/CHT
2.25"
Dual gages 120.00
120.00
(amp/volts) no sending units
includes sending units
Compass 70.00
80.00
(cowl mount) (top of dash)
From Rotax - 912 Tachometer N/A
220.00 color markings
912 Tachometer 112.00 no color marked background
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_________
$ 1,200.00
$ 1,339.00
Would like to get $1,000.00
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