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1. 03:57 AM - Re: Avex Rivets (MacDonald Doug)
2. 04:08 AM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Paul Mulwitz)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: 'Spruce & Avex Rivets (Zed Smith)
4. 05:29 AM - Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook (Peter Barthold)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (ashontz)
6. 06:54 AM - First Hop (Scott Laughlin)
7. 07:08 AM - Re: First Hop (Beckman, Rick)
8. 07:26 AM - Re: First Hop (Bill Steer)
9. 07:35 AM - Re: First Hop (Keith Ashcraft)
10. 07:35 AM - Re: First Hop (Larry Winger)
11. 07:54 AM - Re: First Hop (William Dominguez)
12. 07:55 AM - Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook (LarryMcFarland)
13. 08:18 AM - Re: First Hop (LarryMcFarland)
14. 08:22 AM - Re: First Hop (Jaybannist@cs.com)
15. 08:24 AM - Re: First Hop (Juan Vega)
16. 08:25 AM - Re: First Hop (Gig Giacona)
17. 08:36 AM - Re: First Hop (n801bh@netzero.com)
18. 08:36 AM - Re: First Hop (Terry Phillips)
19. 08:37 AM - Re: First Hop (Geoff Heap)
20. 08:56 AM - Re: First Hop (frank forgues)
21. 09:12 AM - Re: First Hop (george may)
22. 09:45 AM - Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter (kweiss18@cogeco.ca)
23. 09:54 AM - Re: First Hop (japhillipsga@aol.com)
24. 10:14 AM - Re: Re: First Hop ()
25. 10:15 AM - Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter (ronlee)
26. 10:18 AM - 601XL 12 Gallon Right Wing Tank For Sale. (tjlhl)
27. 10:33 AM - Re: First Hop (PatrickW)
28. 10:40 AM - Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter (PatrickW)
29. 10:41 AM - Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter (Art Gibeaut)
30. 10:51 AM - Re: Avex Rivets (PatrickW)
31. 11:16 AM - Metal Spinning (Keith Ashcraft)
32. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: First Hop (Debo Cox)
33. 11:37 AM - Re: Avex Rivets (Gig Giacona)
34. 11:39 AM - Re: First Hop (eddies)
35. 11:42 AM - Re: Metal Spinning ()
36. 12:05 PM - Re: Metal Spinning (Craig Payne)
37. 12:36 PM - Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter (steve)
38. 12:48 PM - 300 hours of building progress on a 601XL (PatrickW)
39. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: Avex Rivets (Carlos Sa)
40. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: Avex Rivets (n801bh@netzero.com)
41. 01:17 PM - Re: Jabiru Engine Seminar (IFLYSMODEL@aol.com)
42. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: Avex Rivets (John Marzulli)
43. 01:55 PM - Re: Avex Rivets (Jugle)
44. 02:10 PM - Re: First Hop (Jugle)
45. 03:42 PM - Harbor Freight Pneumatic Puller (Joe Spencer)
46. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: Avex Rivets (Bryan Martin)
47. 04:40 PM - New Tool for compressing rubber engine mount. (Paul Mulwitz)
48. 05:25 PM - Re: First Hop (kmccune)
49. 05:38 PM - Re: Avex Rivets (Christian Tremblay)
50. 05:41 PM - Re: First Hop (rroberts)
51. 06:25 PM - Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook (Wingrider)
52. 06:37 PM - Bottom Longeron Question (Brad Cohen)
53. 06:58 PM - Re: First Hop (Art Olechowski)
54. 08:11 PM - Re: Bottom Longeron Question (PatrickW)
55. 09:05 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. (Dave Thompson)
56. 09:30 PM - Re: pegastrol wings foldable? (RayStL)
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Personally, I'm using the Aircraft Spruce rivets.
Haven't had any issues. I belive the rivets that
Zenith sells are from a certain Avex plant and have a
more consistant breakaway of the stem when pulled.
Occasionally, the Spruce rivets do have a slight
protrusion of the broken stem. It happens but not
very often.
Best of luck with your build
Doug MacDonald
CH-701 Scratch Builder
NW Ontario, Canada
--- Jugle <glenn@eastcoastit.net> wrote:
> <glenn@eastcoastit.net>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've been looking at the price of rivets on the
> Zenith site and comparing with those from Aircraft
> Spruce. The Aircraft Spruce ones are substantially
> cheaper but are they suitable? They refer to them as
> Avex Non-structural Blind Rivets, countersunk Part
> Nos. 1604-0412, 1604-0514 and 1604-0615. Are these
> the correct type?
>
> I got a quote from Zenith for a hardware box which
> goes for $425.00 but apparently it doesn't include
> rivets.
>
> What have you other scratchbuilders done?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Glenn
>
> --------
> Glenn Andressen
> 601XL- just started.
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
A paper match generates around 2000 degrees F. However, you wouldn't
do any welding with a match.
I think the issue is not the temperature but the total energy
produced by the torch. When you use pure oxygen with any fuel the
energy in the flame goes up a great deal. I have never heard of a
mapp gas torch that uses oxygen. It is commonly used with acetylene
and with propane fuels.
The reasons TIG is a better choice for this kind of welding have to
do with the energy density produced and the shielding efficiency. Of
course, this doesn't come for free. TIG is said to be the hardest
form of welding to learn, but it can do incredibly difficult tasks
that are either much harder or impossible to do with other welding forms.
There are lots of people who can weld an aluminum fuel tank, but I
doubt many of them just started welding for the tank project. I
think that is like starting to drive cars by entering the Indianapolis 500.
Paul
do not archive
At 06:44 AM 12/3/2007, you wrote:
>This is not soldering or brazing, it's welding. An acetyline torch
>reaches 6500 degrees, oxy-MAPP, 6200 degrees. Aluminum melts at 1250
>degrees. It's welding. I asked them about this, it's welding, not
>brazing. Back when, all welding was gas welding. This is welding. I
>will do many test pieces to confirm this.
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| Subject: | Re: 'Spruce & Avex Rivets |
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Three or four years ago a contributor to this list commented that Spruce lists
the Avex as "non-structural" as a means of covering its rear in case of any future
legal proceedings arising from the use of the Avex for any purpose other
than non-structural. Makes sense.
Regards to all.
Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc
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| Subject: | Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook |
[Idea] take a look here:
http://www.ch601.org/builder%20resources.htm
Thilo Kind did a nice job in writing a POH for us future HDS drivers!
Greetings
Peter
HDS TD
Tail complete, wings in progress
www.petersprojekt42.de
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
Just for the pure fun and learning experience, I'm going to try it.
It's not like I've never welded anything before. Even so, if I hadn't weld anything
before, I'd still try it.
I work as a software engineer for a living. When I started back when, object oriented
programming (OOP) was just coming into vogue. Transitioning was considered
difficult. Now, OOP is all they teach and people still manage to learn it
and can't imagine how anyone could have done any programming the old way.
psm(at)ATT.NET wrote:
> A paper match generates around 2000 degrees F. However, you wouldn't
> do any welding with a match.
>
> I think the issue is not the temperature but the total energy
> produced by the torch. When you use pure oxygen with any fuel the
> energy in the flame goes up a great deal. I have never heard of a
> mapp gas torch that uses oxygen. It is commonly used with acetylene
> and with propane fuels.
>
> The reasons TIG is a better choice for this kind of welding have to
> do with the energy density produced and the shielding efficiency. Of
> course, this doesn't come for free. TIG is said to be the hardest
> form of welding to learn, but it can do incredibly difficult tasks
> that are either much harder or impossible to do with other welding forms.
>
> There are lots of people who can weld an aluminum fuel tank, but I
> doubt many of them just started welding for the tank project. I
> think that is like starting to drive cars by entering the Indianapolis 500.
>
> Paul
> do not archive
>
> At 06:44 AM 12/3/2007, you wrote:
>
> > This is not soldering or brazing, it's welding. An acetyline torch
> > reaches 6500 degrees, oxy-MAPP, 6200 degrees. Aluminum melts at 1250
> > degrees. It's welding. I asked them about this, it's welding, not
> > brazing. Back when, all welding was gas welding. This is welding. I
> > will do many test pieces to confirm this.
> >
> >
>
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CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the
first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to
check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flig
ht will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the fi
rst time even if it is just a hop.
Scott Laughlin
CH601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
Omaha, Nebraska
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Hey, Scott!!! Congratulations!!!!
Rick
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Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for
the first time as an airplane.
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Hey, Scott! Congratulations! Great job.
Bill
Scott Laughlin wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for
> the first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it
> down to check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good
> and first flight will take place when we get good weather again.
> Here's a video I took:
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
> I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for
> the first time even if it is just a hop.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> CH601XL/Corvair
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
> Omaha, Nebraska
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CONGRATULATIONS Scott.
I have watched your progress almost every step of the way. GOOD JOB!!!
Once again, Congratulations!!!!
Keith
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Scott Laughlin wrote:
Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the
first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to
check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flig
ht will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the fi
rst time even if it is just a hop.
Scott Laughlin
CH601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
Omaha, Nebraska
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Way to go, Scott! Your careful approach to testing your airplane is no
surprise, given your attention to every detail of construction. What a
feeling. Congratulations!!
Larry Winger
601XL/Corvair
Tustin, CA
On Dec 4, 2007 6:51 AM, Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the
> first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to
> check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first
> flight will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I
> took:
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
> I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the
> first time even if it is just a hop.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> CH601XL/Corvair
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
> Omaha, Nebraska
>
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Congratulations Scott!
and thanks for sharing the video. I'm a frequent visitor of your web site and have
learned a great deal from your project.
William Dominguez
Zodiac 601 Plans
Miami, Florida
Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px
} body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check everything
out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will take
place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
Scott Laughlin
CH601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
Omaha, Nebraska
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| Subject: | Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook |
Dan,
I've a POH that has been adapted to my 601HDS and it includes a 100-hour
or annual condition inspection etc.
It's in Word Format and you're welcome to do what you need to make it
fit your aircraft. I've sent it C/O your email address.
Larry McFarland
Dan Forney wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a Pilots Operating
> Handbook for the CH601HDS and if so how I might get a copy of one?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>
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That was outstanding Scott!
It really peaks the adrenalin doesn't it. You've done beautiful work and
the engine really sounds good too. The adventure continues,,,,,,
Very best of luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Scott Laughlin wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for
> the first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it
> down to check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good
> and first flight will take place when we get good weather again.
> Here's a video I took:
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
> I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for
> the first time even if it is just a hop.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> CH601XL/Corvair
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
> Omaha, Nebraska
>
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Scott - A big CONGRATULATIONS!! Your airplane is looking fantastic!
Jay in Dallas
Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>Hi guys:
>
>Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check
everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will take
place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
>
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
>I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
>
>Scott Laughlin
>CH601XL/Corvair
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
>Omaha, Nebraska
>
>
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one of the nicest 601s i have scene!
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Dec 4, 2007 9:51 AM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: First Hop
>
>Hi guys:
>
>Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check
everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will take
place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
>
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
>I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
>
>Scott Laughlin
>CH601XL/Corvair
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
>Omaha, Nebraska
>
>
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Congratulations Scott, now take off your dress and yank that stick back and really
fly it. :)
cookwithgas wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check
everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will
take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
> I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> CH601XL/Corvair
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
> Omaha, Nebraska
>
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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A BIG Congrats to you....................
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for t
he first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it do
wn to check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and f
irst flight will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a vi
deo I took:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the
first time even if it is just a hop.
Scott Laughlin
CH601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
Omaha, Nebraska
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Congratulations, Scott! Good luck with your Phase I.
Terry
At 08:51 AM 12/4/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi guys:
>
>Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the
>first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to
>check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first
>flight will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
>
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
>I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the
>first time even if it is just a hop.
>
>Scott Laughlin
>CH601XL/Corvair
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
>Omaha, Nebraska
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Rudder done--finally; working on the stab
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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Well done Scott
Read this topic online here:
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Nice work Scott, a true inspiration to us all. Enjoy the fruits of your lab
our my friend.
Frank Forgues
CH601XL/Corvair
early stages Kit/Plans
Toronto, Canada
From: cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COMTo: zenith-list@matronics.comSubject: Zenith-L
ist: First HopDate: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:51:24 -0600
Hi guys:Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground
for the first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it
down to check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and fi
rst flight will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video
I took:http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmvI can'
t describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first ti
me even if it is just a hop. Scott LaughlinCH601XL/Corvairhttp://www.cooknw
ithgas.com/index.htmlOmaha, Nebraska
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Scott
nice work--congradulations
George May
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ist: First HopDate: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:51:24 -0600
Hi guys:Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground
for the first time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it
down to check everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and fi
rst flight will take place when we get good weather again. Here's a video
I took:http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmvI can'
t describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first ti
me even if it is just a hop. Scott LaughlinCH601XL/Corvairhttp://www.cooknw
ithgas.com/index.htmlOmaha, Nebraska
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| Subject: | Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter |
I purchased a Harbor Freight pneumatic riveter and followed the instructions on
filling with hydraulic fluid. It pulls
rivets properly but will not eject the stems. It leaves about 1/4" of stem protruding
through the front of the jaws. I
cannot pull the stem out of the jaws through the front because of the serrations
in the jaws. I have to push it out the
back with the next rivet stem. Anyone have any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Klaus
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Scot, Congrads! I know the feeling. What I can not understand is the control necessary
to put such an obviously flying machine back on the strip after she really
wanted to see the ground from a couple thousand feet. More control than I
possessed. Great to see her flying, Best of luck, Bill of Georgia
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 9:51 am
Subject: Zenith-List: First Hop
Hi guys:
Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane.? It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check everything
out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will take
place when we get good weather again.? Here's a video I took:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
Scott Laughlin
CH601XL/Corvair
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
Omaha, Nebraska
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From: Jaybannist@cs.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: First Hop
Scott - A big CONGRATULATIONS!! Your airplane is looking fantastic!
Jay in Dallas
Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>Hi guys:
>
>Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check
everything out after the first hop, but all looks good and first flight will take
place when we get good weather again. Here's a video I took:
>
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
>I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it is just a hop.
>
>Scott Laughlin
>CH601XL/Corvair
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
>Omaha, Nebraska
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter |
You need to adjust the internal parts of the jaw so when it retracts into the tapered
part of the nose it will release the shank. You may have to play with it
a bit to get it right. I know of a builder who abandoned the use of his air
riveter and did the entire plane with a hand riveter just because he didn't have
it set correctly.
--------
Ron Lee
Tucson, Arizona
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| Subject: | 601XL 12 Gallon Right Wing Tank For Sale. |
I have a good 12 Gallon right wing tank with sender for 601XL for sale.
I can take $175.00 plus shipping charges. I can be reached on mu cell
phone 816-699-5221, or email tjlhl@sbcglobal.net. Please advise if
interested, thanks, Tom Loftin
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Great news! Well done.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter |
Take it apart and adjust it a bit. There is a piece behind the nose grippers that
has some leeway that you can screw in and out.
You will probably have to take it apart and adjust it a couple of times until you
get it "just right". That was my experience.
Don't give up on it, as it is a far superior tool than the green riveter that comes
with the Zenith toolkit.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter |
Mine did the same thing, so I took the nose assembly apart and discovered that
there is a threaded adjustment to the jaws that had to be backed off a little
in order to allow the jaws to release the spent stem. I had to play with the adjustment
a bit to get the right release, but you can do it by trial and error.
Good luck.
--- On Tue, 12/4/07, kweiss18@cogeco.ca@cogeco.ca <kweiss18@cogeco.ca@cogeco.ca>
wrote:
> From: kweiss18@cogeco.ca@cogeco.ca <kweiss18@cogeco.ca@cogeco.ca>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 11:43 AM
> "kweiss18@cogeco.ca"@cogeco.ca
>
> I purchased a Harbor Freight pneumatic riveter and followed
> the instructions on filling with hydraulic fluid. It pulls
> rivets properly but will not eject the stems. It leaves
> about 1/4" of stem protruding through the front of the
> jaws. I
> cannot pull the stem out of the jaws through the front
> because of the serrations in the jaws. I have to push it
> out the
> back with the next rivet stem. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Klaus
>
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dougsnash(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Personally, I'm using the Aircraft Spruce rivets.
>
> I belive the rivets that Zenith sells are from a certain Avex plant and have
amore consistant breakaway of the stem when pulled.
>
> Occasionally, the Spruce rivets do have a slight protrusion of the broken stem.
It happens but not very often.
>
I also used ACS rivets. I'd also purchased some A6's from ACS and from one other
vendor (at Oshkosh) - the ones from ACS had a more consistent appearance and
appeared to be of better quality which compares well with the ones supplied
from Zenith. I've only used rivets from Zenith and from ACS. I threw away the
ones I got from the other vendor.
As far as the stems pulling off cleanly, I think that's more "luck of the draw".
About 1 out of 4 of my Zenith supplied A5's have a sharp tip sticking up.
Run your hand along your wing rivet lines and you'll see what I mean. I'm not
too worried about it, but if I were polishing my wings I would be as it would
tear up polish pads in short order.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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All,
Here is a link to a video of some metal spinning. The example he is
showing is for an 8" Spinner.
He makes it look too easy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related>
For all you builders with a lathe, let us know how it works out, (yeah
right!!)
Keith
CH701- scratch -- fuselage
N 38.9947
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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XL congrats on the first hop Scott - That's "extra large". I read about your first
excursion on WW's site this morning. Thanks for raising the bar for all us
scratchbuilders. Nicely done.
Debo Cox
Nags Head, NC
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PatrickW <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Great news! Well done.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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That's strange. I've riveted the tail, both wings and most of the fuselage with
nothing but the rivets from Zenith and I have never had one that left a tip of
any kinds sticking up.
[/quote]
As far as the stems pulling off cleanly, I think that's more "luck of the draw".
About 1 out of 4 of my Zenith supplied A5's have a sharp tip sticking up.
Run your hand along your wing rivet lines and you'll see what I mean. I'm not
too worried about it, but if I were polishing my wings I would be as it would
tear up polish pads in short order.
Patrick
XL/Corvair[/quote]
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601XL Under Construction
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Wow Scott,
That looked fantastic, I can't wait to be able to do the same thing
Eddie Seve
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| Subject: | Re: Metal Spinning |
While I am amazed, I am also realistic enough not to be tempted to try that. I
just threw money at the good folks from Jabiru USA for a nice ready to install
polished aluminum spinner.
Dred
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---- Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Here is a link to a video of some metal spinning. The example he is
> showing is for an 8" Spinner.
> He makes it look too easy!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related>
>
> For all you builders with a lathe, let us know how it works out, (yeah
> right!!)
>
> Keith
> CH701- scratch -- fuselage
> N 38.9947
> W 105.1305
> Alt. 9,100'
>
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Jabiru is selling the (Australian) Cummins spinners. See them spin here:
http://www.cumminsspinners.com/Information.htm
-- Craig
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Metal Spinning
While I am amazed, I am also realistic enough not to be tempted to try that. I
just threw money at the good folks from Jabiru USA for a nice ready to install
polished aluminum spinner.
Dred
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---- Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com> wrote:
>
> All,
> Here is a link to a video of some metal spinning. The example he is
> showing is for an 8" Spinner.
> He makes it look too easy!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwrk0SwDJhI&feature=related>
>
> For all you builders with a lathe, let us know how it works out, (yeah
> right!!)
>
> Keith
> CH701- scratch -- fuselage
> N 38.9947
> W 105.1305
> Alt. 9,100'
>
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| Subject: | Re: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter |
My HF puller does the same. They are cheap and you get what you pay for.
What I do is this: after the pull and break the stem, I rotate the broken
stem 90 degrees and the stem then pulls out the front easier. I say easier
because it aint perfect......
I think the jaws searate the stem and by rotating the 90 degrees that allows
the smooth part of the stem to slip by the jaws. Also if the nose piece is
loose the jaws will not let the stem go....so make sure its in tight.
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: <"kweiss18@cogeco.ca"@cogeco.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:43 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Harbor Freight Pneumatic Riveter
>
> I purchased a Harbor Freight pneumatic riveter and followed the
> instructions on filling with hydraulic fluid. It pulls
> rivets properly but will not eject the stems. It leaves about 1/4" of
> stem protruding through the front of the jaws. I
> cannot pull the stem out of the jaws through the front because of the
> serrations in the jaws. I have to push it out the
> back with the next rivet stem. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 300 hours of building progress on a 601XL |
I'm building a 601XL from component kits, buying one component after finishing
the previous one. I just noticed that I recently I passed the 300 hour mark on
my tracking spreadsheet.
Where has that time gone...? Here is what I've accomplished in those 300 hours:
Tail - Done (did the rudder at a Zenith workshop - highly recommended).
Wings - Done.
Corvair Engine - Cam/crank/pistons/cylinders installed. Done as far as possible
with the parts I have on hand.
Fuselage - working on rear half.
I think I'm about average as far as my rate of progress as a first-time builder.
I started a little over a year ago, and went kinda slow during the summer as
I ran out of work between the time I finished the wings and got the fuselage
crate. When I was between component kits I would work on the engine.
Knowing what I know now, what would I do different?
1) Buy the Harbor Freight rivet gun right from the git-go.
2) Order engine parts early. Lead times here may well be the determining factor
on the project completion time for faster builders.
3) Start sooner. :-)
What have I done that "I'm glad I did"?
1) Got my pilot's license first, then chose to build a plane.
2) Flew various different airplanes before choosing the XL.
3) Flew several different XL's.
4) Converted my garage into a shop. It's nice to be able to walk between the
garage and the kitchen.
5) Got involved with local EAA. I found a chapter (25) that has a lot of members
who are builders.
6) Attend Corvair College and the Zenith Builders Dinner and other similar events
to meet other people like me.
I think I've got a reasonably good chance to see this thing through to the finish
and actually fly it...
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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Same with me - and I got mine from Textron, in TO, before production was
moved to China.
(This did happen with the cherry q rivets I used on the fuel tanks).
My next batch is coming from Zenith.
Carlos
CH601 HD, plans
On 04/12/2007, Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
> wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> That's strange. I've riveted the tail, both wings and most of the fuselage
> with nothing but the rivets from Zenith and I have never had one that left a
> tip of any kinds sticking up.
>
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I am going to chime in here. On my 801 I built in 2001 every one of the
ZAC supplied Rivets always pulled correctly and out of 14,000+, none end
ed up with a shank sticking out. The only difficult ones were the Stainl
ess ones used on the firewall. They just broke the air riveter. :<(.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "PatrickW" <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
dougsnash(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Personally, I'm using the Aircraft Spruce rivets.
>
> I belive the rivets that Zenith sells are from a certain Avex plant an
d have amore consistant breakaway of the stem when pulled.
>
> Occasionally, the Spruce rivets do have a slight protrusion of the bro
ken stem. It happens but not very often.
>
I also used ACS rivets. I'd also purchased some A6's from ACS and from
one other vendor (at Oshkosh) - the ones from ACS had a more consistent
appearance and appeared to be of better quality which compares well with
the ones supplied from Zenith. I've only used rivets from Zenith and f
rom ACS. I threw away the ones I got from the other vendor.
As far as the stems pulling off cleanly, I think that's more "luck of th
e draw". About 1 out of 4 of my Zenith supplied A5's have a sharp tip s
ticking up.
Run your hand along your wing rivet lines and you'll see what I mean. I
'm not too worried about it, but if I were polishing my wings I would be
as it would tear up polish pads in short order.
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine Seminar |
Hey Pete: I have tried to download your form as well as print the info
attached to your e-mail with no results.
Please enroll me in the February Engine Seminar. I will put a check in the
mail to Nick tomorrow.
Thanks.
Lynn Nelsen
1851 CR 630 W, Frostproof Fl, 33843 Zenith 601 HD with Jabiru 3300 serial
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I've have some rivets ( Zenith provided ) on my fuselage with the shank not
having cleanly torn away and have been trying to figure out what to do about
them.
Is it safe to leave them, is it OK to "clean them up" with a file, or would
it be best to drill them out and re-rivet those holes?
Thanks,
On Dec 4, 2007 1:11 PM, n801bh@netzero.com <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote:
> I am going to chime in here. On my 801 I built in 2001 every one of the
> ZAC supplied Rivets always pulled correctly and out of 14,000+, none ended
> up with a shank sticking out. The only difficult ones were the Stainless
> ones used on the firewall. They just broke the air riveter. :<(.
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> -- "PatrickW" <pwhoyt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> dougsnash(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> > Personally, I'm using the Aircraft Spruce rivets.
> >
> > I belive the rivets that Zenith sells are from a certain Avex plant and
> have amore consistant breakaway of the stem when pulled.
> >
> > Occasionally, the Spruce rivets do have a slight protrusion of the
> broken stem. It happens but not very often.
> >
>
>
> I also used ACS rivets. I'd also purchased some A6's from ACS and from
> one other vendor (at Oshkosh) - the ones from ACS had a more consistent
> appearance and appeared to be of better quality which compares well with the
> ones supplied from Zenith. I've only used rivets from Zenith and from ACS.
> I threw away the ones I got from the other vendor.
>
> As far as the stems pulling off cleanly, I think that's more "luck of the
> draw". About 1 out of 4 of my Zenith supplied A5's have a sharp tip
> sticking up.
>
> Run your hand along your wing rivet lines and you'll see what I mean. I'm
> not too worried about it, but if I were polishing my wings I would be as it
> would tear up polish pads in short order.
>
> Patrick
> XL/Corvair
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Thanks for your replies. One thing I find curious is that Aircraft Spruce refer
to them as "Avex Non-Structural Blind Rivets". I've never heard of them referred
to as non-structural anywhere else.
Anyone know why this is?
Glenn
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Congratulations Scott. Looking forward to seeing the first flight video!
Glenn
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| Subject: | Harbor Freight Pneumatic Puller |
I have one that has pulled probably 200,000 rivets(everybody has
borrowed it) with no problens to speak of other that the replies already
posted...except for one other. The different size tips that came with
mine have different lengths which allows the puller to release the
different size shanks. Sometimes it's possible to get a larger rivet in
the tip than was intended for it and that will cause it to jam in the
jaws-the smaller tips are shorter.
The guy who used a handpuller is pretty gutsy.
Joe
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The answer is -- yes. :)
You can just leave them as is, unless the appearance really bothers
you. If so, you can either clean up the stem with a file, as long as
you don't damage the aluminum part of the rivet. Even if you do damage
the rivet, there are more rivets in the plane than are really needed
for structural strength. If all else fails, drive out the stem with a
small pin punch and then it will be very easy to drill out and replace.
On Dec 4, 2007, at 4:28 PM, John Marzulli wrote:
> I've have some rivets ( Zenith provided ) on my fuselage with the
> shank not having cleanly torn away and have been trying to figure
> out what to do about them.
>
> Is it safe to leave them, is it OK to "clean them up" with a file,
> or would it be best to drill them out and re-rivet those holes?
>
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | New Tool for compressing rubber engine mount. |
I just finished installing the rubber engine mounts on my
Jab-3300. It was quite an experience.
For starters, I looked at the (highly recommended) homebuilt help
seminar DVD and learned about Pete's modified C clamp. I made one of
those for myself and found it successfully did 3 of the 4 rubber
mounts. The last one was hopeless with that tool.
After digging around my shop and consulting my wife, I came across a
rusty old Vice Grip locking C clamp I used years ago for holding
welding projects. A half hour with the Dremel cutoff tool and a
little smoothing with a belt grinder and I got the result I
wanted. It works great on the tough engine mount and I assume it
would work just as well on the other three.
The little plug is a piece of 9/16 steel rod with a hollow ground in
it to hold the clamp in place while pressing on the bolt head. The
finished clamp has a relatively flat edge on one leg with a slight
"V" shape in the one that mates with the steel plug.
I hope this helps someone else with this nasty little task.
Paul
XL fuselage
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Congratulations !
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I Glenn
Avex Rivets that you specifies on you email are the good ones. Avex rivets
are Avex rivets. Chris H. made special disclosure about testing the rivets,
you can do those test if you want. Big confusion exist about Avex rivets
base on Chris H declaration about those rivets, somebody said only those
produce in UK are ok, others could be produced in China? But who now where
Avex produced their stuff today ?
Buy the rivets sold by Spruce Aircraft and don't let anybody confuse you on
that question. If they are produce by Avex in sold by Aircraft Spruce, I
believe they are ok. I used thousand of them, never find one defective.
Some time to much opinion is too much and it's confuse the builder judgment.
Christian Tremblay
A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan
http://www.zodiac640.com/
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Objet: Zenith-List: Avex Rivets
Hello all,
I've been looking at the price of rivets on the Zenith site and comparing
with those from Aircraft Spruce. The Aircraft Spruce ones are substantially
cheaper but are they suitable? They refer to them as Avex Non-structural
Blind Rivets, countersunk Part Nos. 1604-0412, 1604-0514 and 1604-0615. Are
these the correct type?
I got a quote from Zenith for a hardware box which goes for $425.00 but
apparently it doesn't include rivets.
What have you other scratchbuilders done?
Thanks in advance,
Glenn
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Very VERY nice Scott!
SUPER JOB [Exclamation] Its so nice to see so many ZAC projects coming to life.
Sun&Fun and Hangar day in Mexico should really be packed full of new AC in
2008!
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Low & Slow
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: CH601HDS Pilot Operating Handbook |
Larry would you mind PM'ing a copy of your POH to me as well. This would be a big
help to my HDS.
Thanks
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Rich Whittington
Tullahoma, TN
Zenith 601HDS Under Construction
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| Subject: | Bottom Longeron Question |
I am finally getting to work on the Fuselage of my 601XL and I am trying not
to repeat dumb a** mistakes that I have made thus far so I figured I had
better ask;
I have the standard kit (not quickbuild) and I am fitting the bottom
longeron 6B2-3 to the rear longeron 6B2-1. It appears that I will have to
trim about 150mm of overhang from the rear longeron and about 50mm from the
back of the bottom longeron where the splice of the two will occur, since
the front of the longeron is already bent to match the curvature of the
skin. Does this ring any bells with those of you already past htis point? I
am really hesitant to go cutting without confirmation.
Thanks
Brad Cohen
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Congratulations Scott she's a beauty.
Art
--- Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Hi guys:
>
> Yesterday, December 3, 2007, my four+ year project left the ground for the first
time as an
> airplane. It was only a baby step and we shut it down to check everything out
after the first
> hop, but all looks good and first flight will take place when we get good weather
again. Here's
> a video I took:
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/First%20Hop%2012_3_2007.wmv
>
> I can't describe how fantastic it feels to see your airplane fly for the first
time even if it
> is just a hop.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> CH601XL/Corvair
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/index.html
> Omaha, Nebraska
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| Subject: | Re: Bottom Longeron Question |
We are about at the same stage. I just wondered about that same thing a couple
days ago.
Here's what I did:
I took my bottom skin and laid it flat on my workbench. Then I took the pre-bent
extrusion and "matched it up" at the point where the bend in the extrusion
exactly matched the curvature of the pre-drilled bottom skin (yes, there was some
extra extrusion over the front, and some more extra angle off the back. I
did the splice too, and it was right where it was supposed to be).
Then I clamped it all in place and gently slid the whole works until the rivet
line was overhanging my workbench.
Then I took a sharpie marker and marked through every single pilot hole - putting
a dot where I was going to drill every hole. I did this "on my back", upside
down, looking up from beneath the skin. I figured it's easier to mark holes
and correct if needed, than to drill holes and then slap myself for screwing
up.
Then I unclamped and took it apart and looked at where all the dots were (on the
longerons). They all looked good, so I put everything back together and checked
that I could see the dots through the pilot holes, so I knew I had everything
aligned. Then I drilled & cleco'd.
Worked for me. I was extra careful here, and it came out well, as far as I can
tell right now.
Good luck!
Patrick
XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: 601 XL 15 gal. fuel tanks. |
"The fuel sender doesn't see 12 volts it is reduced down by the gauge and
has a very low voltage I think if I remember it was less than 1 volt."
A 1 volt power source shorted to ground will spark. Granted, not very much,
but how much spark does it take to set off Gas fumes? I wouldn't want to
find out at 5000 ft. Insolate all "hot" connections, even "switched
Grounds".
Dave Thompson
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| Subject: | Re: pegastrol wings foldable? |
I've had mine off and on about a half dozen times (trucking to airport, make holes
for fuel lines, etc.). Two people and a wing stand and about 10 minutes per
wing. A third person makes it a bit easier. I originally was worried about the
plane tipping over if I removed a wing with no stand supporting the other.
Then I forgot to put the stand on the side not being removed. It did not fall
over and was stable enough that I never bothered with the stand on that side again.
For a stand I used a 20 dollar, poor imitation of a, Workmates with the
split table top that can be used to clamp something. I made something that looked
like the Greek letter 'pi' out of 2 vertical 2x4's and one 2x4 across the
top with some padding on it. The vertical were shoved in the slot on the tables
and were clamped at the required height.
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Ray St-Laurent
701/Pegastol wings/Suzuki engine
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