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1. 06:33 AM - RE : Re: China products (Jean-Paul Roy)
2. 08:10 AM - RE : Re: China products (dfmoeller)
3. 10:34 AM - Anyone with a 701 Southern Cal (R.D.(Ron) Leclerc)
4. 11:04 AM - Homebuilt Help DVD (Art Olechowski)
5. 12:11 PM - Re: Homebuilt Help DVD ()
6. 12:17 PM - Re: Homebuilt Help DVD (Edward Moody II)
7. 12:17 PM - Drills and Drill press recommendations (grarad)
8. 02:52 PM - Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell (N732JH)
9. 03:18 PM - Re: Homebuilt Help DVD (Ron Lalonde)
10. 03:50 PM - 912S Ring Mount Warning (N732JH)
11. 04:47 PM - Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning (n801bh@netzero.com)
12. 05:08 PM - Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning (Craig Payne)
13. 05:13 PM - Zenith has contracted to build planes in China as well (Brett Hanley)
14. 05:31 PM - Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell (ruruny@aol.com)
15. 05:41 PM - Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning (raymondj)
16. 05:41 PM - Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations (Jeff)
17. 06:29 PM - Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations (PatrickW)
18. 06:34 PM - Need some 601xl numbers (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
19. 07:06 PM - 601 steering slot cure (dingfelder)
20. 08:31 PM - Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning (N732JH)
21. 10:22 PM - Re: Zenith has contracted to build planes in China as well (Southern Reflections)
22. 10:26 PM - Re: Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell (Southern Reflections)
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| Subject: | Re: China products |
No need for apologies Randy. What goes around, usually comes around. Reminds me
of a time when almost everybody in America wanted to bannish all of Japanese
products.
Let's carry on with Zenith discussion! No room for bigotry here !
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"Randy L. Thwing" <n4546v@mindspring.com> a crit :
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You're not guilty of anything Joe and keep your HF tools. The point is that
you can't make a big point of swearing off Chinese tools and A/C parts while all
the shoes your family wears, half your car parts, the Christmas lights decorating
your home & tree, and a lot (not all) of the stuff sold at Wal-Mart and
Kmart also comes from China.
We all need to brush up on economics. Go to economist www.walterewilliams.com and read everything on his site. If Harbor Freight's China foundry wants to cast a 55 lb. anvil out of mined cast iron, take a machining cut across the top, package it and ship it halfway around the world to sell to us for $24.95 on sale, it allows all of us to have a anvil in our shop.
The pendulum is actually swinging back our way. Price pressure is starting to
affect Chinese products. For example; the Chinese produced a drill bit for
one dollar three years ago when their workers made 33 cents a hour. Now high
speed steel has doubled in price and although still cheap, their labor now costs
66 cents per hour. Yet they have trained the world to pay only one dollar
for this drill bit. The price pressure causes them to try to hold that price
so they try to cut everywhere else from materials to process with the result being
quality suffers. Now the product that was of marginal quality is now unusable
so if they fail every time you quit buying.
I have noticed this on industrial products. So for many items, I have quite
buying imports and have started buying "made in USA" again.
Importing from China only pays if you are making a commodity type item in huge
quantities, month after month, shipment after shipment. If you need a small
variation from the norm, they aren't interested.
Have the Chinese jumped in and started making Jabiru engines?
I buy from HF all the time, but am very selective as to what I buy. Some items
are pure junk, some are usable for very light duty, some actually work very
well. A lot of their tools are good for very infrequent use. In the long run,
they don't hold up.
HF sockets have worked well for me. Their wrenches are clumsy clubs. Their
electric tools usually don't hold up and aren't that much cheaper than the major
brands at Home Depot. Buy a set of their tru-arc ring pliers and the points
may snap off with their first use. I bought a gear puller set and with the
first use, I pulled the threads out of the center, no heat treatment I guess?
I bought a auto-darkening welding helmet from them that works fine. Their air
tools are competitive with other imports.
The whole picture is very complex and the above is a very quick overview of just
a few aspects of the subject.
Regards and Apologies,
Randy, Las Vegas
P.S.: Wal-Mart sells a line of spray paint for $ .99 each. Made in USA! It
includes: A metal can, a lithographed label, a plastic nozzle, a plastic cap,
the paint, the propellant and a rattle ball along with American effort to put
it all together. How can this be?
----- Original Message -----
From: Southern Reflections
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: China products
Randy,I am as guilty as every one when it comes to Harbor Freight ,I going to
clean all that crap out of my tool box tomorrow.....Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy L. Thwing
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: China products
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Craftsman tools WERE made by the conglomerate; Danaher Corp which still owns/makes
the following brands:
Jean-Paul Roy
royjp@yahoo.ca
Tl: (819)949-2216
Cell:(819)629-9360
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| Subject: | Re: RE : Re: China products |
On the contrary! Up until the suggestion below that somehow, an (up to this point,
above board) discussion of the relative merits of an import based economy
is somehow bigoted, this was a very relevant discussion, especially in the context
that it started - Cessna's decision to build the 162 in china. The only
bigotry involved is that I (and most everyone here) would rather see the other
guys unemployed than ourselves. If anyone doesn't see how relevant my continued
employment and prosperity within the overall US economy is to my ability
to own and operate a Zenith aircraft, I just can't help you there.
I think this discussion should be REQUIRED on EVERY message board, not suppressed!
If the self-appointed list moderators don't like it; then don't read it.
Or would you rather beat varieties of scotch-brite to death again?
Doug
[quote="royjp(at)yahoo.ca"]No need for apologies Randy. What goes around, usually
comes around. Reminds me of a time when almost everybody in America wanted
to bannish all of Japanese products.
Let's carry on with Zenith discussion! No room for bigotry here !
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| Subject: | Anyone with a 701 Southern Cal |
Is there anyone in Southern California(LA) with a flying 701. I will be in
Anaheim from Dec 17 to Dec 31 and it would be nice to see a real live 701 up
close...
R.D.(Ron) Leclerc
CH701 Plans(Scrap) Builder #7-6699
Porsche Power Belted Redrive
Winnipeg, MB Canada
infow@mts.net
12/8/2007 12:25:11 PM
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| Subject: | Homebuilt Help DVD |
All,
Just wanted to go on record and say that the "Scratch Building Basics For Metal
Aircraft"
Homebuilt Help DVD is awesome. Mark and David from CAN-ZAC do an outstanding job
of getting you
started. The tips that you learn in the 2 DVD set are invaluable to the journey
ahead. I would
recommend anyone with hesitation of where to begin to order this DVD, the $39 is
well worth it.
No doubt I will be purchasing others in the future. Hats off to Homebuilt Help
for producing such
a great resource for home builders.
Art Olechowski
701 Rudder/Scratch building the Remainder
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilt Help DVD |
I have to agree with you Art, all their DVD's are very well put together and
very very helpful and worth the money.
David Mikesell
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Art Olechowski" <ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>
<feedback@homebuilthelp.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Homebuilt Help DVD
> <ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>
>
> All,
> Just wanted to go on record and say that the "Scratch Building Basics For
> Metal Aircraft"
> Homebuilt Help DVD is awesome. Mark and David from CAN-ZAC do an
> outstanding job of getting you
> started. The tips that you learn in the 2 DVD set are invaluable to the
> journey ahead. I would
> recommend anyone with hesitation of where to begin to order this DVD, the
> $39 is well worth it.
> No doubt I will be purchasing others in the future. Hats off to Homebuilt
> Help for producing such
> a great resource for home builders.
>
>
> Art Olechowski
> 701 Rudder/Scratch building the Remainder
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilt Help DVD |
To take it a step further, all of Jon's videos from his Homebuilt Help
site are worthwhile and helpful to any builder who doesn't already "know
it all". That means that the vast majority of us should be his
customers. I have three of his videos and no regrets at all. Nice guy
and great products.
Dred
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Olechowski
To: Zenith Matornics list ; feedback@homebuilthelp.com
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:56 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Homebuilt Help DVD
<ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>
All,
Just wanted to go on record and say that the "Scratch Building Basics
For Metal Aircraft"
Homebuilt Help DVD is awesome. Mark and David from CAN-ZAC do an
outstanding job of getting you
started. The tips that you learn in the 2 DVD set are invaluable to
the journey ahead. I would
recommend anyone with hesitation of where to begin to order this DVD,
the $39 is well worth it.
No doubt I will be purchasing others in the future. Hats off to
Homebuilt Help for producing such
a great resource for home builders.
Art Olechowski
701 Rudder/Scratch building the Remainder
--
12/7/2007 1:11 PM
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| Subject: | Drills and Drill press recommendations |
Greetings to all;
Before beginning the construction of the 601 XL horizontal stabilizer kit, I would
like to seek your suggestions for drills, and a Drill press.
According to the Heintz collage, Drills should provide 2500 + RPM. Is the use
of a 2500 RPM drill important to perform proper / clean drilling on the majority
of Zodiac parts? Would a 1500 RPM cordless drill be least desired?
3/8" or 1/4" ?
Electric, cordless, or pneumatic ?
Standard Chuck or Keyless, ?
Sioux, Taylor, Harbor Freight, Central ?
For a bench Drill press, is the Sears 10" adequate for the majority of the 601
XL build?
Many thanks in advance,
Gary
--------
601 XL / Rudder / Horz
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| Subject: | Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell |
I've been doing checkout with a used riding lawnmower battery, and now it's time
to select one for flight. I'm ok with a heavier batteries--would help to balance
out my weight :o
ZAC supplied a battery case with my kit that could hold a auto battery. I have
found batts in the 33Ah range for $70 to $90.
I would like to use a sealed battery. Any thoughts on AGM or Gell? I'm leaning
towards the AGM, because the Gell has charging issues.
Thanks,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Homebuilt Help DVD |
A must see for anyone starting out building a 701 or 601 project.
My wife especially likes "sock puppet" LOL
Ron Lalonde
601XL
Nova Scotia, Canada
> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:56:17 -0800> From: ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net> Subj
ect: Zenith-List: Homebuilt Help DVD> To: zenith-list@matronics.com; feedba
ifly4fun2@sbcglobal.net>> > All,> Just wanted to go on record and say that
the "Scratch Building Basics For Metal Aircraft"> Homebuilt Help DVD is awe
some. Mark and David from CAN-ZAC do an outstanding job of getting you> sta
rted. The tips that you learn in the 2 DVD set are invaluable to the journe
y ahead. I would> recommend anyone with hesitation of where to begin to ord
er this DVD, the $39 is well worth it. > No doubt I will be purchasing othe
rs in the future. Hats off to Homebuilt Help for producing such> a great re
source for home builders.> > > Art Olechowski> 701 Rudder/Scratch building
=======> > >
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| Subject: | 912S Ring Mount Warning |
I'm building a 701 with the Rotax 912S Kit obtained from ZAC. I first had a problem
with the ring; one of the bolts holes needed to be reamed out. I also noticed
that the "forth" mount wasn't centered (with three engine mounts installed,
the last one couldn't be installed). I called ZAC and they said to install
the ring to the engine mount first, and then install the engine mount to the
firewall.
This did work and I have been continuing assembly. Today I was fitting the formed
cowl and it was looking strange. The engine looked out of line.
I measured the distance from firewall to ring mount attachment points and one of
the top mounts was 14mm less than the others. The engine mount was manufactured
by ZAC. I broke out my 'dusty' calculator, and determined that this 14mm
would create a 53mm translation at the nose cone! (tan a = opp/adj)
A little more calculating and determined a thick washer at the mount ie 2mm, would
cause a 7.5mm translation at the nose cone. I guess the bottom line is check
your firewall to mount distance; if they're not all the same, the difference
is amplified.
I'll be calling ZAC Monday morning.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning |
Jeff. on most planes the mount locates the motor in a slightly cocked an
gle.Almost always it has the prop/spinner pointed down about 2-3 degrees
. On Lyc's, Jabiru's and other clockwise turning engines the prop is aim
ed to the right as seen from the pilots seat. This offsets the P factor.
I believe the Rotax rotates the opposite way so the prop might me aimed
to the left. Either way the top tubes of the mount should be longer the
n the bottom ones. On average rotating motors the the pilot side tubes s
hould be longer then the other side, The engine will sit in the front o
f the plane at an angle but the prop flange should end up at the specifi
ed centerline of the plane.
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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "N732JH" <jeffrey.w.hinson@boeing.com> wrote:
>
I'm building a 701 with the Rotax 912S Kit obtained from ZAC. I first h
ad a problem with the ring; one of the bolts holes needed to be reamed o
ut. I also noticed that the "forth" mount wasn't centered (with three e
ngine mounts installed, the last one couldn't be installed). I called Z
AC and they said to install the ring to the engine mount first, and then
install the engine mount to the firewall.
This did work and I have been continuing assembly. Today I was fitting
the formed cowl and it was looking strange. The engine looked out of li
ne.
I measured the distance from firewall to ring mount attachment points an
d one of the top mounts was 14mm less than the others. The engine mount
was manufactured by ZAC. I broke out my 'dusty' calculator, and determ
ined that this 14mm would create a 53mm translation at the nose cone! (t
an a = opp/adj)
A little more calculating and determined a thick washer at the mount ie
2mm, would cause a 7.5mm translation at the nose cone. I guess the bott
om line is check your firewall to mount distance; if they're not all the
same, the difference is amplified.
I'll be calling ZAC Monday morning.
Jeff
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| Subject: | 912S Ring Mount Warning |
The plans for the old Rotax 912S bed mount show a left/right offset of 3
degrees (6-E-3, 4/2004). I don't see any top/bottom offset.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Zenith has contracted to build planes in China as well |
I was recently transferred to China. The scope of what is going on over here is
incredible. This has never been seen on this planet. The only thing that comes
close to it is the industrial revolution of the western world over one hundred
years ago. My neighbors here in the industrial park include some pretty
high fliers like Airbus.
I was doing some research looking for experimental aviation here. Rumors say
it exists on an unofficial level. however I cannot find it. In my research I
turned up an article that Zenith Aircraft had signed and agreement to produce
one of the Zodiac models here. The target market was Argentina and other South
American countries. I am not sure however if the planes where ever built or
not.
I just wish there had been more anti Chinese product sentiment in the marketplace
thirty years ago. Too late now guys. The Gennie is out of the bottle and
prepping to kick our tails.
Brett
Tianjin, China
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| Subject: | Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell |
Jeff,
I went with this battery and made my own battery tray. I got the fiberglass battery
box?with my kit.
Scroll down a few pics to see battery.
Brian
Long Island, NY
http://www.701builder.com/electrical14.htm
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning |
Ben,
Can you recommend any references for calculating the left/right and
up/down thrust line angles for a particular airframe? I am designing my
own airframe and want to center the vertical stab so I can use engines
rotating either way. I plan to use thrustline alignment to minimize
P-factor. I believe the prop affects the P-factor also. Any leads on
either of these topics would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Raymond Julian
Kettle River, MN
"Hope for the best,
but prepare for the worst."
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----- Original Message -----
From: n801bh@netzero.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S Ring Mount Warning
Jeff. on most planes the mount locates the motor in a slightly cocked
angle.Almost always it has the prop/spinner pointed down about 2-3
degrees. On Lyc's, Jabiru's and other clockwise turning engines the prop
is aimed to the right as seen from the pilots seat. This offsets the P
factor. I believe the Rotax rotates the opposite way so the prop might
me aimed to the left. Either way the top tubes of the mount should be
longer then the bottom ones. On average rotating motors the the pilot
side tubes should be longer then the other side, The engine will sit in
the front of the plane at an angle but the prop flange should end up at
the specified centerline of the plane.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- "N732JH" <jeffrey.w.hinson@boeing.com> wrote:
<jeffrey.w.hinson@boeing.com>
I'm building a 701 with the Rotax 912S Kit obtained from ZAC. I first
had a problem with the ring; one of the bolts holes needed to be reamed
out. I also noticed that the "forth" mount wasn't centered (with three
engine mounts installed, the last one couldn't be installed). I called
ZAC and they said to install the ring to the engine mount first, and
then install the engine mount to the firewall.
This did work and I have been continuing assembly. Today I was
fitting the formed cowl and it was looking strange. The engine looked
out of line.
I measured the distance from firewall to ring mount attachment points
and one of the top mounts was 14mm less than the others. The engine
mount was manufactured by ZAC. I broke out my 'dusty' calculator, and
determined that this 14mm would create a 53mm translation at the nose
cone! (tan a = opp/adj)
A little more calculating and determined a thick washer at the mount
ie 2mm, would cause a 7.5mm translation at the nose cone. I guess the
bottom line is check your firewall to mount distance; if they're not all
the same, the difference is amplified.
I'll be calling ZAC Monday morning.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Drills and Drill press recommendations |
Gary,
First, I'd recommend going with the RPM ZAC specifies. Having said
that, I used a 4500 RPM corded drill for the first several parts I built
back in the early 1990s. I later switched to two 2500 RPM drills, one
corded and one not. For practical purposes the RPM didn't seem to make any
difference. Others may have their preferences, but manufacturer brand name
seems to make no real difference either in my experience. Triangular shaped
holes were a bigger concern. These, in general, can be avoided by drilling
pilot holes and then drilling to size. For rivet holes, the rivet will fill
up some of the odd shape. For bolts, the hole should be more exact. A
drill press and fixture to hold the parts are needed, particularly for bolt
holes. Reaming the bolt hole after drilling became my standard practice.
Remember that the reamer makes the hole just slightly oversize. Not so much
reaming for rivet holes. A standard household drill of 600-800 RPM did
provide some very unacceptable results, so high speed is what to use. To
me, corded versus cordless is a matter of convenience. Not having to charge
the battery was good for me as long as I was working in an edifice with
electrical power. In the shed, I had to use cordless. My 2500 RPM drill
has a keyless chuck. It has been fine even though I didn't have confidence
in it at first. It certainly is faster changing bits. I haven't used any
air tools so I can't comment on them. There is more on this in the archives
and on Mark's 601 web site. In the HD kit, there are some holes bigger that
1/4 inch, so the chuck size selected may impact the drills you can use.
Several drill attachments are recommended by me: a 90 degree angle
attachment, reamers for common bolts sizes (3/16, 1/4, 5/16, 3/8, etc.) and
an assortment of Unibit (stepped) drill bits.
Jeff Davidson
CH601-HD w/Jabiru 3300 90 percent done
<snip>
According to the Heintz collage, Drills should provide 2500 + RPM. Is the
use of a 2500 RPM drill important to perform proper / clean drilling on the
majority of Zodiac parts? Would a 1500 RPM cordless drill be least desired?
<snip>
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| Subject: | Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations |
grarad wrote:
> I would like to seek your suggestions for drills, and a Drill press.
I bought the Sioux air drill, and a good air compressor. The price seemed steep
at first, but I have never regretted buying them. I'm 100% sold on air tools
now, and wish I'd have gone that route years ago. Of course you are limited
to the length of your air hose, but air hose is not expensive.
The Sioux drill has a variable speed. Most of my drilling is at a fairly slow
speed, but for the times that I want to drill at a high speed I am able to do
so. You'll catch on pretty quick and be able to tell what speed works for the
particular situation at hand. And you'll come to appreciate the light weight
of the Sioux drill after drilling several hundred holes in an evening...
I also have a cordless drill with two battery packs. If you do serious drilling,
your battery packs and charger will not be able to keep up with you. Cordless
drills are handy for use as powered screwdrivers to take those big wood crates
apart.
The Sears 10" drill press is probably better than the one I have now.
Other handy tools that I have used on my 601 project are a vise, a bench grinder,
and infrequently a band saw. I have found a dremel tool and an air grinder
to be very useful tools as well. Also a Sears laser level.
My advice when it comes to tools is to buy the best quality that you can afford.
I have never regretted buying quality, but I have regretted buying junk (and
then having to spend more buying what I should have bought in the first place).
Patrick
XL/band saw
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| Subject: | Need some 601xl numbers |
Hey guys,
I am looking for some real life numbers on the 601xl Corvair powered planes
out there.
The reason I need this is because the 601 I build last year is hitting
Cruise speeds of 135 to 138 MPH at 75 to 80 % and full throttle speeds in excess
of 140 The plane weighed 850 Lbs before paint and not sure of it's weight now
after being painted. it has the 110 Hp corvair and nothing special has been
done to it so if anyone would like to share their information and let me know
if this is normal or what your numbers are I would appreciate it.
Jeff
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| Subject: | 601 steering slot cure |
List Addicts,
Not an original idea, but this is my version of the
slot cure. The rods are covered with a 2 1/2" length of vinyl tubing to
smooth the threads. The holes are slightly oversize to prevent binding.
The outer piece is shimmed, and then bowed in just enough to keep the
slider from rattling. The slider is allowed plenty of lateral clearance
so it can move as needed. No cost, very little weight, about 2 hours
from beard stroking time to completion, and not made in China.
Lynn
Dingfelder 601XL
Corry, PA
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning |
Thanks for the reply! I didn't notice the 3deg right deflection on my 7-E-2 drawing.
I do have a 3.5deg deflection that a 2mm washer between the right upper
engine mount/ring will reduce to 3.1deg--perhaps a thrust washer or two will
get this perfect.
>From the pilots point of view, from the firewall to the right ring is 266, and
the left is 280mm. If I reduce this 14mm difference to 11.5 then:
tan(x)=11.5/220... x=2.99deg (220mm between mounting points).
I hope it's ok to add washers between the mount and ring.
Thanks again,
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith has contracted to build planes in China as well |
It's been out for quite some time. How about the plane that they built
for RevMaster, it was designed by a aero collage or state U. .It comes
in it's own steel shiping crate for when it is shipped over and
RevMaster uses it to store it, or ship it to there buyer .It's
composit,and is a canard wing. sells for about $40,000 dollars ,It's
ready to go ,just bolt it up and fly,go to there web site and you can
see it,,,,It's Yellow .Rots of Ruck... Joe N101HD
601XL/RAM
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Hanley
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:12 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith has contracted to build planes in China
as well
I was recently transferred to China. The scope of what is going on
over here is incredible. This has never been seen on this planet. The
only thing that comes close to it is the industrial revolution of the
western world over one hundred years ago. My neighbors here in the
industrial park include some pretty high fliers like Airbus.
I was doing some research looking for experimental aviation here.
Rumors say it exists on an unofficial level. however I cannot find it.
In my research I turned up an article that Zenith Aircraft had signed
and agreement to produce one of the Zodiac models here. The target
market was Argentina and other South American countries. I am not sure
however if the planes where ever built or not.
I just wish there had been more anti Chinese product sentiment in the
marketplace thirty years ago. Too late now guys. The Gennie is out of
the bottle and prepping to kick our tails.
Brett
Tianjin, China
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| Subject: | Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell |
That thing is big enough to be in a golf cart,you did a great job on the
tray....Joe N101HD
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From: ruruny@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:27 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell
Jeff,
I went with this battery and made my own battery tray. I got the
fiberglass battery box with my kit.
Scroll down a few pics to see battery.
Brian
Long Island, NY
http://www.701builder.com/electrical14.htm
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