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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Homebuilt Help DVD (mosquito56)
2. 12:36 AM - Re: Jabiru + 601XL enthusiasts only (mosquito56)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell (Dave Austin)
4. 06:14 AM - Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations (kmccune)
5. 09:31 AM - Re: Anyone with a 701 Southern Cal (ricklach)
6. 09:35 AM - XL on floats - Gross weight (Tim Juhl)
7. 09:50 AM - Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations (Tim Juhl)
8. 10:01 AM - Re: Need some 601xl numbers (Gig Giacona)
9. 10:02 AM - Re: 601 steering slot cure (Gig Giacona)
10. 10:48 AM - Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations (Aaron Gustafson)
11. 12:44 PM - First time builder, need some advice :) (jelveh)
12. 01:41 PM - Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning (Tommy Walker)
13. 02:53 PM - 701 engine (John Short)
14. 02:53 PM - Re: Zenith & Can-Zac Aviation Clothing and Logo Wear (ZodieRocket)
15. 02:54 PM - Re: First time builder, need some advice :) (Bryan Martin)
16. 05:35 PM - Alternative Power Systems for GA? (Frank Derfler)
17. 06:16 PM - Re: First time builder, need some advice :) (LarryMcFarland)
18. 08:51 PM - Re: First time builder, need some advice :) (Craig Payne)
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| Subject: | Re: Homebuilt Help DVD |
Just to add my 2 cents. Homebuilt help is amazing. I like it so much I sometimes
put the Jab engine install video in and watch it instead of a movie.
Everything Can-Zac did was first rate. I can't say enough good things about them.
BTW: If the homebuilt guy reads this, I don't know if I have the updated version
of the Jab3300 install. If you can call me if I don't have it, I would like
to upgrade. To be honest I have about 6million things on the burner right now
and I won't be getting my engine for another month or so. This is why I am shouting
out to you now.
Don Merritt
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Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx
Apologies if I seem antagonistic.
I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance
in this thing we call life.
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru + 601XL enthusiasts only |
Jon, give me a call if I don't have the updated version.
Don Merritt
Laredo, Tx
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Don Merritt- Laredo, Tx
Apologies if I seem antagonistic.
I believe in the freeflowing ideas and discussions between individuals for assistance
in this thing we call life.
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| Subject: | Re: Sealed Batteries -- AGM or Gell |
IMOO, the gel cell battery is the way to go. I used auto batts for the
first two. Fumes get at the aluminium, you need a sealed battery box with
breather and if it does ever overcharge you have a real mess.
I then chose the Odessey. Seven years later still working fine and the
other big advantage is you don't have to keep charging it every month if you
don't/can't go flying. In the frozen north (Canada) it just sits there for
3/4 months. Twists the engine over just like new. Yes, it costs twice as
much - but guess what I put in the Spitfire.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
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| Subject: | Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations |
Just general personal experience below:
A slower drill bit rpm has more chance of breaking though the material without
having completely cut the diameter away. This will pull the material up the drill
bit and can cause stitches... yes I'm sure about this one. :^( The other
thing a higher speed does is to allow you to put less pressure on the drill,
the bit "bites" a smaller amount each revolution lessening the above situation,
results in a smaller burr and still allows a short drill time. This also allows
you to control the break through and subsequent "bumping" of the material
with the chuck better. But you really should have a rubber bumper on the chuck
for this reason anyway.
Air drill if you can, on thin material. On bigger holes/thicker material or harder
material slower is better. Always make sure that you are in control of the
material, see stitches above.
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Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone with a 701 Southern Cal |
Hi Ron,
I live north of LA in the mountains east of Bakersfield. I have my flying 701 and
Im rebuilding a second 701 for a friend. If you dont mind a 3-hour drive your
welcome to come up anytime. I can be reached at:
rick@ravengear.us
661-345-7755
Rick
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| Subject: | XL on floats - Gross weight |
Just a quick question - does anyone know the approved gross weight of a 601 XL
when operated on floats?
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations |
You are going to be drilling a lot of holes so I recommend that you go with something
light, small and high speed. I chose the Sioux 3600 rpm palm drill (pneumatic).
If you shop around you can find one for under $200. Everybody who
has seen it has wanted to walk away with it :-) Obviously you will need a compressor,
but then you'll need one for a rivet puller unless you use a manual
puller and want to end up with arms like Popeye.
I bought a sears bench mount drill press that so far has met my needs very well.
You can change the speed fairly easily from something like 640 rpm up to around
3200.
You didn't ask but be sure to invest in some good drill bits. When they start
getting dull or show any tendancy to wander, pitch them!
Good luck!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Need some 601xl numbers |
That's about right for the Covair powered 601s I've seen.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: 601 steering slot cure |
I like it. Good work.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Drills and Drill press recommendations |
I made two of these
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/agustafson@chartermi.net.03.08.2003/
One 1/8" and one 5/32" and used them almost exclusively to scratch build
my 601HD. I used a computer backup battery (throw aways from a friends
computer business for power). The motors came from a Ford dealer I
worked for and were warranty take outs, almost new and of course free to
me. These work very well for drilling aluminum. Better than the 5 or 6
cordless and 10 or 12 corded drills I have. So see what you can
scrounge.
Aaron Gustafson
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| Subject: | First time builder, need some advice :) |
Hi all!
I'm going to be a first time time builder soon :) and I've just found this mailing-list,
I hope to maybe find some more information about the kit I'm gonna build.
I recently ordered an zenith-xl kit that I'm planning to build in canada (should
be delivered sometime early next year), now I still have a lot of questions
mostly about the powerplant... I know this is a recurring theme over this list
but I hope it's ok if I ask again:
I'm surfing all over the net to help me decide which engine to buy, unfortunately
I'm still unsure - zenith has a list of supported engines on their site but
I don't know how they would fit into what I'd like to do...
What I'd like to do is after having built the plane is to maybe take a year off
from work and go on a longer trip, maybe something like a round the world trip.
Now I'm hoping/guessing that wouldn't be a problem for the plane itself however
I have no idea what a good engine would be for such a plan.
It should have a good range and of course be reliable, easy maintenance is a plus
;) and it should have no problems in cold/warm weather, I was thinking of maybe
getting a diesel engine as I suppose it gives you another level of indepence
on fuel matters but I haven't really found anything specific.
So what would you guys/gals recommend?
TIA!
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Ring Mount Warning |
Hi Jeff,
In addition to Jon Croke's 912 installation DVD, there is a very good series
of articles in EAA's Sport Pilot Magazine. The fourth part of this series
deals with this issue. I think it is the December 2005 issue.
I'm going to post a link to it, but it's kinda long so it may not format
correctly in this email message:
http://www.sportpilot.org/magazine/feature/2005%20-%2012%20December%20-%20Ti
ps%20and%20Tricks%20for%20Ideal%20Rotax%20912%20Installation.pdf
If you can't get the link to work, go to http://www.sportpilot.org
<http://www.sportpilot.org/> and look at the Sport Pilot Magazine link.
There are four very good articles dealing with installation and setup of the
912.
Hopefully you are a member of EAA, but even if you are not, you can still
read the magazine articles.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
N8701 18.5 hrs
Do Archive
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Just started scratch building a 701 this month, and was wondering if
there is anyone out there running either the Great Plains VW or aero
conversions. If so what size and HP as well as prop choice.
CREATIVE SIGNWORKS
1168 Byron Rd.
Kaufman, Tx 75142
John & Mindy Short
972-962-7464
Cell: 214-240-3815
www.creative-sign-works.com
creativesigns@embarqmail.com
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| Subject: | Zenith & Can-Zac Aviation Clothing and Logo Wear |
I will not be setting up a shop in the U.S. most of the clothing is
manufactured in the U.S. and the company that I use is a U.S. based
franchise. Now that we have the shipping issues all ironed out, and I
am enthusiastic with the Quality of the material and the service, I will
be adding Quality Sport Planes in the coming months. This will be the
only online clothing store and a one-stop shop for all clothing, as
demands increase other offerings will be added to the choices.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
HYPERLINK
"mailto:president@can-zacaviation.com"president@can-zacaviation.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.can-zacaviation.com/"www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
Whwn is zenith going to set a shop up in the USA ? Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
Hi Guys, I am just writing a note to say Thanks to all who have ordered
from the HYPERLINK "http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"Promo Store
and to let the rest of you know that the Christmas cutoff is fast
approaching. This is your last weekend to have your Logo Wear under the
tree!
HYPERLINK "http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"HYPERLINK
"http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"HYPERLINK
"http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"
Some of you have not visited the shop yet or shown your family what you
want for Christmas.
HYPERLINK "http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"HYPERLINK
"http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"HYPERLINK
"http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"
This shop was setup after almost a year and a half of ongoing work to
fulfill the requests of the builders who came to me every year asking
for an expanded clothing line. So far in 3 weeks the website counter has
seen 145 visits, I have had far more requests for the store then that
and if we factor in the curious viewer then I really would have expected
more. Please have a visit over the weekend. Look at the product, even if
you do not wish to have a shirt or jacket with your call letters under
the Zenith Logo, how about a shop mug, or the new Sandwich Bill Hat!
Alternatively, just have a visit and let me know what you think!
Monday Dec 10th is Cut off Date to have your order under the Christmas
Tree. We are shipping by Express Post now for cost savings over courier,
but time is a factor!!
HYPERLINK "http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"Visit the Zenith Wear
Shop now
HYPERLINK "http://can-zacaviation.promoshop.com/"Visit the Can-Zac
Aviation Logo wear shop.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
12/6/2007 11:15 PM
12/9/2007 11:06 AM
12/9/2007 11:06 AM
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| Subject: | Re: First time builder, need some advice :) |
If you're planning an around the world trip, the availability of
repair parts and maintenance expertise in the event of a breakdown may
be a major concern. In that case, the Continental O-200 would be one
good choice. It's been around for decades, it's well known by repair
shops around the world, parts should be readily available and it will
run on 87 octane auto gas if necessary. It may not be as efficient as
some of the alternatives and it may be more expensive to maintain than
some, but those are some of the trade-offs.
On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:42 PM, jelveh wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I'm going to be a first time time builder soon :) and I've just
> found this mailing-list, I hope to maybe find some more information
> about the kit I'm gonna build.
> I recently ordered an zenith-xl kit that I'm planning to build in
> canada (should be delivered sometime early next year), now I still
> have a lot of questions mostly about the powerplant... I know this
> is a recurring theme over this list but I hope it's ok if I ask again:
> I'm surfing all over the net to help me decide which engine to buy,
> unfortunately I'm still unsure - zenith has a list of supported
> engines on their site but I don't know how they would fit into what
> I'd like to do...
> What I'd like to do is after having built the plane is to maybe take
> a year off from work and go on a longer trip, maybe something like a
> round the world trip. Now I'm hoping/guessing that wouldn't be a
> problem for the plane itself however I have no idea what a good
> engine would be for such a plan.
> It should have a good range and of course be reliable, easy
> maintenance is a plus ;) and it should have no problems in cold/warm
> weather, I was thinking of maybe getting a diesel engine as I
> suppose it gives you another level of indepence on fuel matters but
> I haven't really found anything specific.
>
> So what would you guys/gals recommend?
>
> TIA!
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Alternative Power Systems for GA? |
I don't want to start an(other) "off-topic" thread, so you can reply
directly if you wish, but has anyone seen a good discussion of "other than
internal combustion" power for GA aircraft?
My reason for asking is this quote: "*Honda claims that their current V-flow
fuel cell stack, 100 kW electric motor and Li-Ion battery weigh the same or
less than a conventional hybrid powertrain producing less power." *
THIS ARTICLE <http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=724661> is
talking about alternative sources of automotive power, but they are working
at about 130HP. If you know of any aviation discussion threads on fuel cell
or hybrid power for GA acft, please let me know.
--
Frank Derfler
-- Daily Discussions of All the Guy Toys that aren't (clearly) illegal or
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| Subject: | Re: First time builder, need some advice :) |
Hi Jelveh,
For such a round the world trip, the engine needs to run reliably for
long periods. The engine must be able to use whatever most common fuel
is available. It might not be aviation gas or even high octane. Fuels
like jet-A or diesel shouldnt be considered, as theyre not easily
found at a majority of minor airports. The HD thick wing would have been
a better carrier for short field takeoffs full fuel and maximized
payload. The XL would need to refuel with a frequency that planning
becomes as difficult as the engines ability to go the distance. Id
rather have an engine thats easily repaired with low cost parts that
are available worldwide and dirt simple. The reliability of this engine
would have been already proven by a great number of users. Tools carried
for this engine at such a distance would have to be simple and minimal.
Speed would have to be considered because the engine would have to run
at a low cruise rpm for fuel economy and engine temperatures would have
to be controlled by altitude compensating carbs and on short notice
endure thermal extremes. If the engine had a re-drive, it would have to
be belted for ease of maintenance, inspection, repair
and adjustment. The prop would likely be a ground adjustable 3-blade.
The engine that comes to mind is an automotive conversion such as a
Subaru EA-81 or possibly a Corvair. Dirt simple, economical, reliable,
burns 87-octane or 100LL and depends on the builder-user obtaining
knowledge for a proper conversion before the fact. Many of these are
still being put to severe service in gyros and run many hours at low
speeds with great reliability.
Im sure there may be other engines that would fill the bill too.
Best regards,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
jelveh wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> What I'd like to do is after having built the plane is to maybe take a year off
from work and go on a longer trip, maybe something like a round the world trip.
Now I'm hoping/guessing that wouldn't be a problem for the plane itself however
I have no idea what a good engine would be for such a plan.
> It should have a good range and of course be reliable, easy maintenance is a
plus ;) and it should have no problems in cold/warm weather, I was thinking of
maybe getting a diesel engine as I suppose it gives you another level of indepence
on fuel matters but I haven't really found anything specific.
>
> So what would you guys/gals recommend?
>
> TIA!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151348#151348
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First time builder, need some advice :) |
To commemorate the 75th anniversary of the India Air Force two of their jet
pilots flew a Rotax-powered Flight Design CTsw LSA around the world in 79
days. I'm still trying to figure out how they did it VFR as the Canadian and
Greenland governments really strongly discourage VFR flight plans across the
Atlantic.
For "Round the World" information take a look at www.earthrounders.com.
-- Craig
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