---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/12/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:53 AM - Need advice on polishing the skins (John Reinking) 2. 01:01 AM - Re: Need advice on polishing the skins (Iberplanes) 3. 01:04 AM - Re: First Hop (Iberplanes) 4. 04:36 AM - Flap Actuator Moutning Points (4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons)) 5. 05:32 AM - Re: Need advice on polishing the skins (Gary Boothe) 6. 05:39 AM - Re: Need advice on polishing the skins (Bryan Martin) 7. 08:45 AM - Re: Flap Actuator Moutning Points (DaveG601XL) 8. 12:04 PM - HDS rudder travel (601corvair) 9. 12:18 PM - Re: Check it out (Gig Giacona) 10. 02:53 PM - Re: HDS rudder travel (LarryMcFarland) 11. 04:02 PM - Re: Need advice on polishing the skins (Bill Naumuk) 12. 08:23 PM - Re: Check it out (steve) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:27 AM PST US From: John Reinking Subject: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins My wife and I would like to polish the skins on our Rudder Kit (while waiting for the stock to go up enough to order the Tail Kit.) I've worked out all of the small scratches. All of the rivets are tight. My question is: what is the procedure for bringing the skins to a brilliant surface w/o damaging the poprivets? My son offered me the use of his automobile polisher (has about a 8-10 inch buffing pad on it.) Also, are there any William Wynne Corvair conversion builders out there? Thanks to those of you who offered your knowledge on polishing out the mild scratch marks. Worked out great and I really appreciate your patience with this newbie. John Reinking/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Need advice on polishing the skins From: "Iberplanes" Hi John, There is an outstanding report on how to do it in the Kitplanes magazine, November 2007 issue called "dare to be bare". If the there is a minor scratch, and of course is only on the surface, not doing a "V" it would probably disappear. Take care, -------- Alberto Martin 601 XL - Jabiru 3300 www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151811#151811 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:26 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: First Hop From: "Iberplanes" Hello Scott, Good news!!! Congratulations!! -------- Alberto Martin 601 XL - Jabiru 3300 www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151812#151812 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:41 AM PST US From: 4RCSIMMONS@comcast.net (Rich Simmons) Subject: Zenith-List: Flap Actuator Moutning Points Hey List! I was going to place the flap actuator last night and function it (Temp assembly) and the holes to receive the A12 bolts are not quite big enough in the actuator assy. One end is a plastic end in the housing and the other is the actuator end that receives the steel sleeve/push rod. Any body else have this problem? I have drill bits but would like to ask if others have had the same issue and what was the counter measure. Also, it is suggested to paint all the steel parts, (Torgue tubes etc...) but the way the sheet metal bearings work how loose are builders making the holse as to not scratch paint when installing the bearings on the tubes? Do not archive -- Thanks, Rich Simmons 601 XL Flap actuator area ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:05 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins John, You need to be on the Corvair List at corvaircraft.com. Gary Boothe Cool, CA 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, Tail done, wings done, working on c-section _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Reinking Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins My wife and I would like to polish the skins on our Rudder Kit (while waiting for the stock to go up enough to order the Tail Kit.) I've worked out all of the small scratches. All of the rivets are tight. My question is: what is the procedure for bringing the skins to a brilliant surface w/o damaging the poprivets? My son offered me the use of his automobile polisher (has about a 8-10 inch buffing pad on it.) Also, are there any William Wynne Corvair conversion builders out there? Thanks to those of you who offered your knowledge on polishing out the mild scratch marks. Worked out great and I really appreciate your patience with this newbie. John Reinking/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:59 AM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins See: http://www.nuvitechemical.com/procedures.asp On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:52 AM, John Reinking wrote: > My wife and I would like to polish the skins on our Rudder Kit > (while waiting for the stock to go up enough to order the Tail > Kit.) I've worked out all of the small scratches. All of the > rivets are tight. My question is: what is the procedure for > bringing the skins to a brilliant surface w/o damaging the > poprivets? My son offered me the use of his automobile polisher > (has about a 8-10 inch buffing pad on it.) -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:16 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Flap Actuator Moutning Points From: "DaveG601XL" Rich, I remembered having to drill out the actuator hole also. Did not seem like a big deal and there was plenty of material left on the actuator. I do not recall having any problem getting the sheet metal shims on the flap tube. Good luck, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, tail and wings completed, fueslage almost done. Working engine and electrical systems. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151849#151849 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:08 PM PST US From: 601corvair Subject: Zenith-List: HDS rudder travel The plans say the HD rudder should travel 22 to 28 degrees. I've just got 22 without lots of filing. Does anyone have real world experience on what is enough? phill --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:18 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Check it out From: "Gig Giacona" The link didn't show up in the forum version of the list. Is this what you were pointing to? http://tinyurl.com/2cmfm4 If so they are kind of cool. Are you the maker? -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=151871#151871 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:53:28 PM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: HDS rudder travel Phil, I had to remove and open the elevator by 1/2-inch each side and construct a new filler plate because version 3, at the time didn't provide enough clearance for the rudder to swing full either way. Suggest looking carefully at how this affects your steering if you're tri-gear too. It's easy to open and widen, so I'd do that before settling for less than adequate travel. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/bclearance.gif http://www.macsmachine.com/images/elevator/full/centersect.gif * March 21* Placement of the stabilizer becomes a problem that requires modifications to both the elevator and rudder. The elevator was made to version 3 of the drawings. The 80mm width at the narrow portion of the elevators v-opening in front of the rudder is 100mm width in version 4, and for good reason. There isn't enough clearance for the rudder to move freely at 80mm. I spent half the day widening and making a single v-closing panel into a 2-piece panel. The rudder of course required trimming of the lower edge of the nose skin to get clearance with the elevator horn and limits of up-travel for the elevator. I also had to trim the bottom edge of the v-opening skin to clear the rudder at mid upper elevator travel to preclude any contact that might cause interference during travel. It's all very close and the rear attach tabs had to be trimmed to allow the elevator down to travel limits. The best result was moving the elevator " further forward to within 1/4" of the rearmost top bulkhead to improve elevator-rudder clearances. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com 601corvair wrote: > The plans say the HD rudder should travel 22 to 28 degrees. I've just > got 22 without lots of filing. Does anyone have real world experience > on what is enough? > phill > > * > > * ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:57 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins Gary- I knew there had to be another 'Vair website!!! Everyone's telling me about all this new information and I keep looking at the SOS! Bill Naumuk HDS Fuse/Corvair Townville, Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Boothe To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:28 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins John, You need to be on the Corvair List at corvaircraft.com. Gary Boothe Cool, CA 601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done, Tail done, wings done, working on c-section ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Reinking Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:52 AM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Need advice on polishing the skins My wife and I would like to polish the skins on our Rudder Kit (while waiting for the stock to go up enough to order the Tail Kit.) I've worked out all of the small scratches. All of the rivets are tight. My question is: what is the procedure for bringing the skins to a brilliant surface w/o damaging the poprivets? My son offered me the use of his automobile polisher (has about a 8-10 inch buffing pad on it.) Also, are there any William Wynne Corvair conversion builders out there? Thanks to those of you who offered your knowledge on polishing out the mild scratch marks. Worked out great and I really appreciate your patience with this newbie. John Reinking/Woodinville, WA http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:00 PM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Check it out Yes Gig I ve been making these strut fairings. I m working on my 601 XL and I wanted a fairing to improve the looks of the nose wheel pant to strut hole. I spent countless hours making the tooling ( mould ) to produce a nice looking part. To recover my investment and to offer other builders the fairing, I went to eBay. Fairing is fiberglass and ready to cut, sand and paint to match your aircraft..... Steve Weston Sun Valley Airpark A20 Fort Mohave, AZ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.