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1. 05:09 AM - Re: Builders in Kansas City Area (Juan Vega)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Newspaper feature (Tommy Walker)
3. 06:18 AM - XL wing locker arm measurement (Darryl Legg)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Newspaper feature (ROBERT SCEPPA)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Builders in Kansas City Area (Art Olechowski)
6. 09:48 AM - Re: XL wing locker arm measurement (kensmith@springnet1.com)
7. 10:44 AM - 701 Elevator Cable Balancing (Jeffrey A Beachy)
8. 12:57 PM - Inspection Checklist (Dan)
9. 01:27 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (rroberts)
10. 01:29 PM - Re: Newspaper feature (rroberts)
11. 01:54 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (Bill Naumuk)
12. 02:46 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (kmccune)
13. 03:46 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (Bryan Martin)
14. 03:46 PM - 701 Elevator Cable Balancing (Joe Spencer)
15. 03:46 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (n801bh@netzero.com)
16. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: Inspection Checklist (Bill Naumuk)
17. 05:10 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (Kevin L. Rupert)
18. 05:44 PM - Re: 912 Service Bulletin (Tommy Walker)
19. 06:36 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (Gary Ray)
20. 07:18 PM - Re: Drawings =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=C3=BCr?= dual control 601xl (chris Sinfield)
21. 07:26 PM - Re: Inspection Checklist (Christian Tremblay)
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| Subject: | Re: Builders in Kansas City Area |
Paul,
where are you from My Mom's maiden name is Rodriquez
Juan Vega
-----Original Message-----
>From: paulrod36@msn.com
>Sent: Jan 11, 2008 4:18 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builders in Kansas City Area
>
>Go thou to Lee's Summit Airport January 21, and sit in on the EAA (at the blue
hangar) meeting at 7PM. If you're not already a member, you can join. We have
one 601HDS completed, three XLs , and a 701 in progress. At least one other 601
hasn't gotten to the hangar yet. We'd be glad to show you around, and answer
any questions. Or show up almost any nice Saturday afternoon, there's usually
someone working.
>
>Paul Rodriguez
>601XL/Corvair
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: haven<mailto:haven@cfl.rr.com>
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:05 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Builders in Kansas City Area
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> Good Morning,
>
> Are there any zenith builders in the KC area. I would like to meet, and see
your project.
> I moved here about 3 weeks ago, and as of yet have not started any build project,
but would love to see how one goes together.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Newspaper feature |
Zed,
A reporter for the local paper asked to do a story on our 701 when we got it
completed. I know what they say about fool's names and monkey's faces, but
I did it anyway.
Here's a link to the article, minus the front page picture:
http://myweb.cableone.net/twalker/010608_B.pdf
Thanks,
Tommy Walker,
N8701
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| Subject: | XL wing locker arm measurement |
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me the arm measurement for the wing lockers please,wing is too
far away at the moment [Laughing]
Darryl
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| Subject: | Re: Newspaper feature |
> I wonder why there was an obit beside the your story
> Tom. Kinda inappropiate, don't ya think?
--- Tommy Walker <twalker@cableone.net> wrote:
> Zed,
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> A reporter for the local paper asked to do a story
> on our 701 when we got it
> completed. I know what they say about fool's names
> and monkey's faces, but
> I did it anyway.
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> Here's a link to the article, minus the front page
> picture:
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> http://myweb.cableone.net/twalker/010608_B.pdf
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> Thanks,
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> Tommy Walker,
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> N8701
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| Subject: | Re: Builders in Kansas City Area |
Jeff,
I'm in Wichita but I don't have enough of an airplane to look at. I'm working
on finishing up the
rudder and have yet to order any sheet metal.
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Art
--- haven <haven@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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> Good Morning,
>
> Are there any zenith builders in the KC area. I would like to meet, and see
your project.
> I moved here about 3 weeks ago, and as of yet have not started any build project,
but would love
> to see how one goes together.
>
> Jeff
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=157417#157417
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| Subject: | Re: XL wing locker arm measurement |
23.8" aft the the leading edge of the wing; so the arm would be +23.8 if
you are using the leading edge for datum.
Darryl Legg wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>Can anyone tell me the arm measurement for the wing lockers please,wing is too
far away at the moment [Laughing]
>Darryl
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| Subject: | 701 Elevator Cable Balancing |
I am currently flying my Phase 1 test hours. One thing I noticed is a
tendency for the stick to move to the left. I don't think this is a heavy
left wing, but rather the elevator cable tension caused by the elevator
bellcrank being off-center. This is a common issue with the 701 and has
been discussed in the archives. I have installed the bungee as instructed
and it helps, but the control stick still favors moving to the left side.
In searching the archives, I found one builder who installed a nylon
fairlead on the back bottom of the baggage compartment for the upper
cable (that is, the upper cable at the aileron bellcrank 7C1-1. This
cable goes to the bottom of the elevator) to run through. In
experimenting, this solution does a better job at evening the control
stick balance between left and right. For any of you that have installed
such a fairlead, is this a good solution? Have you had any issues with
the side pull on the aileron bellcrank that such a fairlead would
produce? How long does the nylon fairlead last before wearing through?
Have you had any problems with using such a fairlead? Any things to look
out for?
My issue with the bungee is that, to completely balance the stick, my
upper cable (at the bellcrank) is pulled so far to the starboard side
that it hits the flaperon control threaded rod. Also, my lower cable just
brushes the 7F6-1 bottom channel. I can add a piece of nylon on top of
the bottom channel but I would prefer that the cable doesn't rub it at
all. I have also considered remaking the aileron bellcrank with a
slightly raised lower hole, but this will affect the elevator travel.
If others have different solutions (in lieu of the bungee), I would be
interested in reading and seeing those solutions. Thanks!
Jeff Beachy
CH701, Phase 1 Testing
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| Subject: | Inspection Checklist |
All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from
the local FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason. Anyway while I
was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane
(701). He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.
Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time
you complete an assembly. I can find no such thing. Does anyone have a
clue what he was talking about?
Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special
Airworthiness Certificate. Hopefully that will not come back to bite me
somehow.
I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could
use some better organization to speed up the process. It is totally
asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.
Dan Wilde
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
Dan,
Looks like every FSDO might be different. Did mine via the US mail. The guy called
me and wanted me to send in a copy of my builders log. About two weeks
later, along came my certificate.
Painless.
Mine was the Atlanta FSDO.
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Newspaper feature |
Very nice article Tommy and Randy. Look out for Entertainment Tonight [Exclamation]
Naaa..Ms Spears has that one sewed up [Wink]
Congrats [Exclamation] [Exclamation]
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Low & Slow
Rick
www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
Dan-
There's a checklist at the start of each section of my 601HDS manual.
Wonder if that's what he's talking about? Definitely chickenshit, because
you could check things off before you ever completed them!
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan" <dwilde@clearwire.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Inspection Checklist
>
> All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from
> the local FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason. Anyway while I
> was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane
> (701). He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.
> Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time you
> complete an assembly. I can find no such thing. Does anyone have a clue
> what he was talking about?
>
> Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special
> Airworthiness Certificate. Hopefully that will not come back to bite me
> somehow.
> I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could use
> some better organization to speed up the process. It is totally asinine
> the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.
>
> Dan Wilde
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
Why would you check off things that are not done/completed? Its your neck the check
list is protecting.
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Kevin
N701DZ Reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
At the Detroit FSDO all he wanted to see is the construction logbook
with photos and the aircraft registration. You need to show evidence
that you were actually the person that built the airplane.
On Jan 12, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Dan wrote:
>
> All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization
> from the local FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason.
> Anyway while I was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist
> for my airplane (701). He said Zenith should have provided or made
> available one. Apparently this checklist is something you sign or
> check off each time you complete an assembly. I can find no such
> thing. Does anyone have a clue what he was talking about?
>
> Dan Wilde
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | 701 Elevator Cable Balancing |
Instead of the bungee(which I think is to keep the cables from rubbing
together??) I slipped a long length of vinyl tubing over one of the
cables and then just let them rub. I will inspect that cable for
corrosion under the tubing annually but don't really expect to find any.
I also put a rub guard on the lower crossmember you mention. I am
running my down cable as loose as I can stand it to avoid binding with
right aileron application, particularly with flaps extended.
Joe
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
For what it's worth my 801 kit had a complete assembly manual. At the e
nd of each section there was a checklist and a place to sign off the sub
assembly. Of course neither the FAA or the DAR even asked to look at i
t.
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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- Dan <dwilde@clearwire.net> wrote:
All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from
the local FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason. Anyway while I
was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane
(701). He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.
Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time
you complete an assembly. I can find no such thing. Does anyone have a
clue what he was talking about?
Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special
Airworthiness Certificate. Hopefully that will not come back to bite me
somehow.
I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could
use some better organization to speed up the process. It is totally
asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.
Dan Wilde
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
Not in the least. I just mentioned it to point out how ridiculous the system
is.
Over and out. Do not archive.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Inspection Checklist
>
> Why would you check off things that are not done/completed? Its your neck
> the check list is protecting.
>
> --------
> Kevin
> N701DZ Reserved
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=157688#157688
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
Dan,
I know it's only semantics, but you did not get a "Repairman Inspection
Authorization". Technically, there is no such privilege. You may
perform a *"Condition Inspection" *on a specific aircraft built by you,
the certificate holder as per FAR 65.104. Inspection Authorizations are
only available to A&P mechanics who have been active for a minimum of 3
years.
Kevin Rupert
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Service Bulletin |
Hi Joe,
I have enjoyed reading your posts on the Zenith list for the last couple of years.
I have the 912ULS and got the Service Bulletin about the Gearbox. Fortunately,
our S/N is not included in the affected gearboxes.
I think that Rotax has experienced a lot of growth in the markets they serve with
the 912/914 engines. It looks to me like they are the victim of suppliers
who might not have met the material specifications for component parts. This
sounds like a lot of the same problems that Lycoming and Continental experienced
over the last several decades.
I do hope that Rotax steps up to the plate and helps the affected owners with repairs.
I am glad though that Rotax is doing the things necessary to keep the owners up
to date about problems and letting us know what to do to correct those problems
(I may sing a different tune when/if I have to shell our $$$$ to fix problems
:) ). What if we didn't have this resource to let us know about problems?
Flying is an expensive hobby isn't it? !
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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[quote="jpspencer(at)cableone.net"]Anybody seen the latest Rotax Mandatory SB on
the 912 mandating changing out a bunch of gearboxes? Looking for more info
here...wondering if this is just more Rotax hand wringing/liability BS or if
this one is real...I have one that's been in service for 1 Year 2 months with
117 hours on it. Let's see if there is any factory assistance on it. This is
the kind of BS that drives people out of aviation.
Joe
> [b]
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| Subject: | Re: Inspection Checklist |
"Repairman Experimental Aircraft Builder" is the wording on the card
indicating your authorization as a repairman.
On the back of the card it will list the specific aircraft that the card
applies to.
My FAA rep emphasized the specific wording that needs to be entered into
the aircraft log book on the annual condition inspections and the need
to keep accurate records of deficiencies found and the work performed to
remedy the situation.
Gary Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Drawings =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=C3=BCr?= dual control 601xl |
Yes sir I can..
Zenith sells them and the right to build a set.. They can also send you a kit of
all the parts needed.
When I looked at all the little individual bits needed, I figured it would cost
less in $ to buy the kit than spend my time and petrol running around getting
the stuff.
Have a look at the photo guides as a start.
Chris.
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| Subject: | Inspection Checklist |
Hi Dan,
I got IPLs (Inspection Part List) sheets for my own plane CH640. It's a
current process in the aeronautical and other industries for insure good
process assembly. I find mine on Zenith Web Site. Look for yours. I
attach
one file example of mine to this email to show you what's it's look
like.
Christian Tremblay
A guy who build a CH640 aircraft from plan
http://www.zodiac640.com/
-----Message d'origine-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Dan
Envoy=E9 : Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:03 PM
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Objet : Zenith-List: Inspection Checklist
All: Yesterday I went to get my Repairman Inspection Authorization from
the local FSDO. This took over an hour for some reason. Anyway while I
was there, he asked if I had a construction checklist for my airplane
(701). He said Zenith should have provided or made available one.
Apparently this checklist is something you sign or check off each time
you complete an assembly. I can find no such thing. Does anyone have a
clue what he was talking about?
Also he pointed out some errors my DAR made when he issued my Special
Airworthiness Certificate. Hopefully that will not come back to bite me
somehow.
I did receive my Inspection Authorization but it appears the FAA could
use some better organization to speed up the process. It is totally
asinine the amount of nitpicking they do or at least are required to do.
Dan Wilde
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