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     1. 05:49 AM - Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Scott Laughlin)
     2. 06:40 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Gig Giacona)
     3. 07:24 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
     4. 07:24 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed (John C Edwards)
     6. 09:39 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (BobTezyk)
     7. 09:52 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
     8. 09:54 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
     9. 10:05 AM - Re: Inspection Check-List (Tim Juhl)
    10. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Craig Payne)
    11. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
    12. 12:04 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
    13. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Inspection Check-List (Bryan Martin)
    14. 01:16 PM - Re: Inspection Check-List - it ain't for the builder (THOMAS SMALL)
    15. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (JG)
    16. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Craig Payne)
    17. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (JG)
    18. 05:12 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
    19. 05:23 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
    20. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (John Marzulli)
    21. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
    22. 07:25 PM - Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed (kmccune)
    23. 07:28 PM - Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise (James Sagerser)
    24. 07:49 PM - Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise (Craig Payne)
    25. 07:55 PM - new builder websight (leinad)
    26. 08:20 PM - Corvair engine (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      Hi guys:
      
      As promised, click the link below to view a video from the 601XL Rudder Cam
       of N5SL filmed Sunday, January 13th.  
      
      http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/Second_Flight_Jan_13_2008.mpg
      
      Scott Laughlin
      601XL / Corvair #17
      Omaha, Nebraska
      www.cooknwithgas.com
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Scott,
      
      When are you going to fly?
      
      --------
      W.R. "Gig" Giacona
      601XL Under Construction
      See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158276#158276
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      
      Gig Giacona wrote:
      > Scott,
      > 
      > When are you going to fly?
      
      
      Patience Young Grasshopper.   Soon.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158288#158288
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      Scott
      
      Nice photos--you've got a pretty stable platform up there. What sort of 
      setup do you have to record your video signals?
      
      My flight instructor, Mark, has been using a 12 VDC VCR to record flights 
      for his students, but his recorder has died. He would be interested in 
      upgrading to some sort of PC based system. I have a USB video adapter that 
      can take coax or S-video input and convert that to a MPG-? signal that can 
      be played on a PC. Mark would like something that could be recorded to a 
      flash drive and then could be burned to a dvd by his students after the 
      lesson. I guess a 12 V DVD-R would also work, but that doesn't sound very 
      rrobust.
      
      I'm wondering what's available out there now? Thanks for any insight you 
      can give me.
      
      Terry
      
      
      At 07:45 AM 1/15/2008 -0600, you wrote:
      >Hi guys:
      >
      >As promised, click the link below to view a video from the 601XL Rudder 
      >Cam of N5SL filmed Sunday, January 13th.
      >
      >http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/Second_Flight_Jan_13_2008.mpg
      >
      >Scott Laughlin
      >601XL / Corvair #17
      >Omaha, Nebraska
      >www.cooknwithgas.com
      >
      >
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      Terry Phillips
      ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
      Corvallis MT
      601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings
      http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed | 
      
      
      I am building mine from the get go without slats and ordered my airframe 
      kit with the leading edge skins uncut for the slats after talking with 
      several 701 owners who say the same thing...."they would never go back 
      to slats after trying the VG's....."
      
      John in Seattle at   mykitlog.com/kapowsin
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Good job Scott.  The rudder-cam is a great addition.
      
      --------
      do not archive
      
      Regards,
      
      Bob Tezyk
      N78QT - 601XL QB/ Jab3300
      Working on elevator
      http://neo.datamatrix.com/eaglesnestestates/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=32&catid=23
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158316#158316
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Not all video is created equal.  Generally digital will be higher quality than
      analog and less susceptible to interference. High quality requires a lot of memory
      and the ability to transfer and store a lot of data quickly.  I suspect that
      the quality and quantity of video that could be downloaded to a flash drive
      would be unsatisfactory for most purposes.  There are some cameras out their
      that burn directly to a mini-DVD or hard drive that might work in this situation.
      
      I shoot and edit video professionally (documentary films.)  Everything I do is
      in high def, recorded to tape and then downloaded to a computer for editing. 
      One thing you learn very quickly is that you'll never have higher quality than
      the original source so you need to determine just what that quality needs to
      be.
      
      Tim
      
      --------
      ______________
      CFII
      Champ L16A flying
      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158319#158319
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Whoops!  My comments were directed to Terry.  Enjoyed the rudder cam video scott.
      How about a pix of the installation?
      
      Tim
      
      --------
      ______________
      CFII
      Champ L16A flying
      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on fuselage
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Inspection Check-List | 
      
      
      Guys, 
      Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish that the
      kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the DAR or FAA
      when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness certificate?
      
      Comments appreciated.
      
      Tim
      
      --------
      ______________
      CFII
      Champ L16A flying
      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on fuselage
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      > How about a pix of the installation?
      
      Look at the top of the page here:
      
      http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Tail.html
      
      -- Craig
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      Thanks for the thoughts, Tim.
      
      Probably anything Mark does will be better than what he has been doing. I'm 
      attaching a screen image from playing a digitized lesson segment with 
      Windows Media Player on my PC. The video file was made by sending the image 
      from a VHS tape to my Win TV box, and saving the digitized file on my PC. 
      As you can see, it's none too sharp. None-the-less, I can see out the 
      windscreen well enough to know where I am. And, since I know the panel very 
      well, and, since I can see the indicators on the altimeter, ASI, and tach, 
      I know what those readings are, even though I cannot read the numbers. I 
      can also interpret the AI images. The interesting thing is that Mark told 
      me that the images on my PC were the best he had seen from his setup.
      
      Can he do better? Ya, lots. But he is not likely to pay much, so even this 
      quality, in a completely digital setup, would probably make him happy. And, 
      since he only charges $50/hr wet for his 150 and $30/hr for lessons, I 
      won't complain.
      
      I would add that the videos were very valuable to me. More than once, I saw 
      my hands move the yoke on the video in ways that I would have sworn did not 
      happen. But, it's hard to deny the video evidence. And, on my 
      fly-monthly-to-keep-up-the-skills-while-building program, I always review 
      my "How to land this airplane" video before I go. Plus, I'm planning to 
      implement something similar when I get to my Phase I testing. I think that 
      the automatic recording of the panel and the audio will prove to be a 
      valuable, low effort, record keeping technique while testing.
      
      So, the question is, what is a cost effective way to save low-to-medium 
      quality video for student's use?
      
      Terry
      
      
      At 09:49 AM 1/15/2008 -0800, you wrote:
      >Not all video is created equal.  Generally digital will be higher quality 
      >than analog and less susceptible to interference. High quality requires a 
      >lot of memory and the ability to transfer and store a lot of data 
      >quickly.  I suspect that the quality and quantity of video that could be 
      >downloaded to a flash drive would be unsatisfactory for most 
      >purposes.  There are some cameras out their that burn directly to a 
      >mini-DVD or hard drive that might work in this situation.
      >
      >I shoot and edit video professionally (documentary films.)  Everything I 
      >do is in high def, recorded to tape and then downloaded to a computer for 
      >editing.  One thing you learn very quickly is that you'll never have 
      >higher quality than the original source so you need to determine just what 
      >that quality needs to be.
      >
      >Tim
      
      
      Terry Phillips
      ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
      Corvallis MT
      601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings
      http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Terry:
      
      Craig had the pictures right.  I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the rudder
      ($79 from Ebay).  It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound!  
      
      Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD recorder
      (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the power
      adapter I installed on  my panel.  The last thing I need is some sort of small
      TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit.  Right now I have to set
      everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording and leave the
      power on or I'll lose the setup.  
      
      The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI.  I'm using a Demo
      version of NERO right now to see if I like it.  I hope to have lots more videos
      to post as flying continues.  
      
      I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling to
      see it fly.  
      
      Scott Laughlin
      Omaha, Nebraska
      www.cooknwithgas.com
      601XL/Corvair #17
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Inspection Check-List | 
      
      
      The FAA maintains a list of kits that have been found to meet the 51% 
      rule, the C601XL is already on that list so you shouldn't have to bother 
      with this form.
      
      See: http://tinyurl.com/2fw7wb
      
      
      Tim Juhl wrote:
      > 
      > Guys, 
      > Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish that
      the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the DAR or
      FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness certificate?
      > 
      > Comments appreciated.
      > 
      
      -- 
      Bryan Martin
      Zenith 601XL N61BM
      Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive
      Do Not Archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Inspection Check-List - it ain't for the builder | 
      
      
      
      Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish 
      that the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the 
      DAR or FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness 
      certificate?
      
      
      Tim, you said comments appreciated.
      
      I dislike dealing with speculation or statements without factual background 
      ("I remember reading once..."), but if we could get the truth on this matter 
      about inspection lists I doubt 8000-38 is really for the builder.  It seems 
      that "I read once..." that it was for the kit manufacturer OR the builder 
      with an exp-ab that was using lots of parts from another a/c or two.
      
      No facts in my statement, but asking ten different FSDO or MIDO offices will 
      get you ten interpretations.  The FAA guys are here but they're not 
      necessarily here to help us with actual readings of the regs.  Has anyone 
      called Joe Norris at the EAA on this?
      
      You could have the form ready if you think it would grease the inspection 
      process.  With the way the inspector types and DARs differ, anything can 
      help, but be ready for them to just brush it aside and catch you somewhere 
      else.
      
      cheers  jeff HDS/3300  do not archive as the stuff below can be interpreted 
      in many ways
      
      +++
      e. Checklist. The FAA Form 8000-38,Fabrication/Assembly Operation Checklist, 
      is used by the
      
      FAA as an aid in determining if a manufacturer's aircraft  meets the major 
      portion requirements of
      
      section 2 1.19 1 (g).
      
      
      AC 20-139 413196
      
      +++ Notice it says Plans-built a/c in next section   AC 20-139 413196
      
      
      b. Completed Kit-Built Aircraft. When a kit has been evaluated and published 
      in the listing of 4
      
      eligible amateur-builta ircraft kits, and no commercial assistance was used 
      in the construction of the x
      
      aircraft using the evaluated kit, the AS1 or DAR will not be required to 
      make another major portion rule
      
      determination for the completed aircraft.
      
      c. Plans-Built Aircraft.
      
      (1) During final inspectionf or compliancew ith section2 1.191( g), a 
      plans-built aircraft must be
      
      evaluatedu sing the FAA Form 8000-38a s a guide. If the builder intendst o 
      utilize commercial
      
      assistancet,h e FAA Form 8000-38c an be submittedt o the FAA prior to 
      construction,l isting the taskso r
      
      processesfo r which the commerciala ssistanceis proposed.I t shoulda lso 
      show the intendedf abrication
      
      and assemblyt askst he builder will perform. On the basiso f this 
      pre-constructionc hecklist, a builder of
      
      a plans-built aircraft should be able to obtain an evaluation in writing 
      from the AS1 or DAR of the effect
      
      that the proposedc ommercial assistancew ill haveo n the major portion 
      requirementf or the completed
      
      aircraft.
      
      
      +++ And this sure seems like it's directed at someone evaluating a 
      manufactuer's kit - perhaps for the 51% rule.
      
      
      413196 AC 20-139
      
      Appendix 1
      
      APPENDIX 1. PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR
      
      FAA FORM 8000-38, FABRICATION/ASSEMBLY
      
      OPERATION CHECKLIST
      
      1. PURPOSE. This appendix provides instructions for completing FAA Form 
      8000-38.
      
      A sample form is included as figure 1.
      
      2. GUIDANCE. This form may be used by any person to establish the 
      eligibility of an aircraft
      
      to be certificated experimental, for the purpose of operating as an 
      amateur-built. Prepare the
      
      form as follows:
      
      a. Enter the company name and address, aircraft model, (by name and/or 
      number), document
      
      name and date (manufacturer's parts list, assembly manual, etc., with latest 
      revision) and type of
      
      aircraft (land, sea, fixed-wing, rotorcraft, etc.).
      
      b. Mark the specific tasks required to fabricate and assemble the aircraft. 
      Mark, an "x"
      
      under the column heading "Accomplished By" in the appropriate space when the 
      task is
      
      performed by the AMATEUR. If the task is performed by the kit manufacturer 
      or by a person
      
      providing commercial assistance,a mark will be placed in the KIT 
      MANUFACTURER column.
      
      Additional blank lines are provided to list any tasks not on the checklist. 
      If a task is listed and
      
      not applicable to the construction of the aircraft enter N/A in the 
      appropriate space.
      
      c. Use the comments area to enter any additional comments, information or 
      statements, as
      
      necessary.
      
      d. Print or type name of person performing the evaluation of the kit or 
      aircraft.
      
      e. The person performing the evaluation of the kit or aircraft should sign 
      their name in the
      
      signature block.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so 
      similar needs to Scott's.
      
      I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are good. 
       The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of XP) is 
      easy for editing and uploading to YouTube.  The procedure for starting 
      the camera to record from aux input requires several steps of 
      manipulating little buttons and following propts on the little screen - 
      not easy while flying.....  And the little screen is too small for good 
      live viewing in the cockpit.  
      
      I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for viewing 
      in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done.  But is 
      there a better way, to record directly onto a lap top??  Don't need 
      broadcast TV quality, just reasonable....
      
      Anyone out there know how to best do this??
      
      JG
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: cookwithgas 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM
        Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
      
      <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
      
        Terry:
      
        Craig had the pictures right.  I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera 
      on the rudder ($79 from Ebay).  It has sound but I didn't run a line for 
      sound!  
      
        Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap 
      DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug 
      into the power adapter I installed on  my panel.  The last thing I need 
      is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the 
      cockpit.  Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the 
      hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the 
      setup.  
      
        The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI.  I'm 
      using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it.  I hope to 
      have lots more videos to post as flying continues.  
      
        I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great 
      feeling to see it fly.  
      
        Scott Laughlin
        Omaha, Nebraska
        www.cooknwithgas.com
        601XL/Corvair #17
      
      
        Read this topic online here:
      
        http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      If you buy a "webcam" it will have a USB interface instead of "composite
      video" (an RCA connector). Then you can connect the camera directly to a
      laptop and capture with software either bundled with the camera of provided
      with your computer. Windows XP includes a program called "Windows Movie
      Maker". Resolution will be as good or better than a conventional TV.
      
      
      But the laptop may produce interference on your radio.
      
      
      -- Craig
      
      
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JG
      Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:43 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
      
      I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so
      similar needs to Scott's.
      
      
      I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are good.
      The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of XP) is easy
      for editing and uploading to YouTube.  The procedure for starting the camera
      to record from aux input requires several steps of manipulating little
      buttons and following propts on the little screen - not easy while
      flying.....  And the little screen is too small for good live viewing in the
      cockpit.  
      
      
      I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for viewing
      in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done.  But is there
      a better way, to record directly onto a lap top??  Don't need broadcast TV
      quality, just reasonable....
      
      
      Anyone out there know how to best do this??
      
      
      JG
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: cookwithgas <mailto:cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>  
      
      
      Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM
      
      Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
      
      
      Terry:
      
      Craig had the pictures right.  I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the
      rudder ($79 from Ebay).  It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound!  
      
      Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD
      recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the
      power adapter I installed on  my panel.  The last thing I need is some sort
      of small TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit.  Right now I
      have to set everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording
      and leave the power on or I'll lose the setup.  
      
      The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI.  I'm using a
      Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it.  I hope to have lots
      more videos to post as flying continues.  
      
      I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling
      to see it fly.  
      
      Scott Laughlin
      Omaha, Nebraska
      www.cooknwithgas.com
      601XL/Corvair #17
      
      
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      Thank you for that Craig.  That sounds like a really easy way to go, 
      I'll try it.  
      Yes, Windows Movie Maker is really good, with excellent support on 
      outside forums, and exactly the right price...
      
      Do not archive
      
      JG
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Craig Payne 
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:42 AM
        Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
      
        If you buy a "webcam" it will have a USB interface instead of 
      "composite video" (an RCA connector). Then you can connect the camera 
      directly to a laptop and capture with software either bundled with the 
      camera of provided with your computer. Windows XP includes a program 
      called "Windows Movie Maker". Resolution will be as good or better than 
      a conventional TV.
      
         
      
        But the laptop may produce interference on your radio.
      
         
      
        -- Craig
      
         
      
        From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JG
        Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:43 PM
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
         
      
        I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so 
      similar needs to Scott's.
      
         
      
        I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are 
      good.  The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of 
      XP) is easy for editing and uploading to YouTube.  The procedure for 
      starting the camera to record from aux input requires several steps of 
      manipulating little buttons and following propts on the little screen - 
      not easy while flying.....  And the little screen is too small for good 
      live viewing in the cockpit.  
      
         
      
        I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for 
      viewing in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done.  
      But is there a better way, to record directly onto a lap top??  Don't 
      need broadcast TV quality, just reasonable....
      
         
      
        Anyone out there know how to best do this??
      
         
      
        JG
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
      
          From: cookwithgas 
      
          To: zenith-list@matronics.com 
      
          Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM
      
          Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
      
           
      
      <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>
      
          Terry:
      
          Craig had the pictures right.  I just mounted a cheep "bullet" 
      camera on the rudder ($79 from Ebay).  It has sound but I didn't run a 
      line for sound!  
      
          Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a 
      cheap DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I 
      plug into the power adapter I installed on  my panel.  The last thing I 
      need is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the 
      cockpit.  Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the 
      hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the 
      setup.  
      
          The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI.  I'm 
      using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it.  I hope to 
      have lots more videos to post as flying continues.  
      
          I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great 
      feeling to see it fly.  
      
          Scott Laughlin
          Omaha, Nebraska
          www.cooknwithgas.com
          601XL/Corvair #17
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Scott,
      Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some interference.  Some looks
      like a poor cable connection while some appears to come from another source.
      I wonder if radio transmissions from the plane are somehow interfering with
      the video signal.
      
      Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly to a laptop,
      however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig of video
      every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive space.
      
      Tim
      
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      Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      Working on fuselage
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Tim:
      
      The interference was the radio. Next time we are going to talk less.  The good
      news is that my radio is working perfectly picking up transmissions from  miles
      away.  One less thing to worry about.  
      
      More to come,
      
      Scott Laughlin
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      I saw in another post you mentioned that you do professional videography...
      
      Recently I bought a Canon HV20 and Final Cut Express. So far the results are
      very good, but stabilizing the image, especially if I'm flying is a problem.
      
      Do you have any advice ( besides trying not to shoot through the window )?
      
      Thanks,
      -John
      
      On Jan 15, 2008 5:06 PM, Tim Juhl <juhl@avci.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > Scott,
      > Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some interference.
      >  Some looks like a poor cable connection while some appears to come from
      > another source.  I wonder if radio transmissions from the plane are somehow
      > interfering with the video signal.
      >
      > Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly
      > to a laptop, however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig
      > of video every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive
      > space.
      >
      > Tim
      >
      > --------
      > ______________
      > CFII
      > Champ L16A flying
      > Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
      > Working on fuselage
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158425#158425
      >
      >
      
      
      -- 
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      http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
      
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      harder to put baseball cards in the spokes.
      -Airplane The Movie
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! | 
      
      
      Tim
      
      1-sided DVD's have about 4.3 gig of storage, IIRC, and will record ~2 hrs 
      of video at pretty good quality, which is about 28-minutes/gig. Is there 
      some way to convert the "full resolution video" to DVD quality w/o too much 
      hassle? If so, that would be more than adequate for my flight instructor's 
      needs.
      
      As far as flying with a laptop, I definitely plan to use a laptop with 
      Waiters data acquisition program, (see)
      
      http://www.iflyez.com/EFISRecorder.shtml
      
      to record the EFIS, EIS, and GPS data while in flight testing, so adding 
      the webcam to the mix would not be much additional effort, assuming the 
      laptop could handle the workload. Waiter's program could also be very 
      useful for JG in his tuft testing if he has an EFIS. He would just need a 
      sync at some point between his data log and his video to have complete 
      correlation between the video and the flight data.
      
      Terry
      
      
      At 05:06 PM 1/15/2008 -0800, you wrote:
      >Scott,
      >Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some 
      >interference.  Some looks like a poor cable connection while some appears 
      >to come from another source.  I wonder if radio transmissions from the 
      >plane are somehow interfering with the video signal.
      >
      >Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly 
      >to a laptop, however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig 
      >of video every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive 
      >space.
      >
      >Tim
      
      
      Terry Phillips
      ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
      Corvallis MT
      601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings
      http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed | 
      
      
      What happened to the rest of this thread?
      
      Kevin
      
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      N701DZ Reserved
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise | 
      
      I asked Jabiru about the diode suggestion today.  They said the  
      Jabiru system is a set of permanent magnets producing current to a  
      regulator-rectifier and doesn't have a diode like a Continental or  
      Lycoming so I guess that  rules that out but thanks for replying.  Jim
      
      
      On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Don_Lewis wrote:
      
      
      > You most likely have a diode out in the alt......
      > A filter capacitor can't fix that....
      > Don L.
      > A&P- IA
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: James Sagerser
      > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:45 PM
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise
      >
      >
      > Here's the latest on my situation.  I connected my radio directly to
      > the battery (power & ground) in the aft fuselage but still had the
      > same whine.  I then took a motorcycle battery and connected the radio
      > directly to it and the whine was completely gone.  The radio was
      > absolutely clear with the engine running.  I have ordered an inline
      > noise filter suggested by several individuals and will let you know
      > how that turns out when it's installed.  Thanks again to everyone who
      > responded.  Jim
      >
      >
      > On Jan 13, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Mark Sherman wrote:
      >
      > > <msherman95632@yahoo.com>
      > >
      > > James.
      > >
      > > This is an old post to the list I found.  This noise filter will
      > > work for your alt. noise also.
      > >
      > > Mark S.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I did some looking at Radio Shacks web site and found
      > > that they have discontinued the noise filter 270-051
      > > with no replacement part.
      > >
      > > I found the same part at Parts Express
      > > (www.partsexpress.com) under the part number 265-042.
      > >
      > >
      > > Worked great on my Val-Com radio.
      > >
      > > Search the Aero Electric list for my name and you will
      > > find all the info when I had my problem.
      > >
      > > Mark Sherman
      > > 701/912
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| Subject:  | Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise | 
      
      There are plenty of diodes (rectifiers) and other semiconductors inside the
      regulator that could be fried. AC still has to be turned into DC somewhere.
      See page 54 in the manual linked below for a schematic of the regulator. But
      since the regulator is encapsulated you would have to replace the whole
      unit.
      
      
      www.jabirupacific.com/pdf/3300ManualHyd.pdf
      
      
      -- Craig
      
      
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Sagerser
      Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:24 PM
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise
      
      
      I asked Jabiru about the diode suggestion today.  They said the Jabiru
      system is a set of permanent magnets producing current to a
      regulator-rectifier and doesn't have a diode like a Continental or Lycoming
      so I guess that  rules that out but thanks for replying.  Jim
      
      
      On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Don_Lewis wrote:
      
      
      You most likely have a diode out in the alt...... 
      
      A filter capacitor can't fix that....
      
      Don L.
      
      A&P- IA
      
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      
      From:  <mailto:alaskajim@cox.net> James Sagerser
      
      
      Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:45 PM
      
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise
      
      
      <mailto:alaskajim@cox.net> alaskajim@cox.net>
      
      Here's the latest on my situation.  I connected my radio directly to  
      the battery (power & ground) in the aft fuselage but still had the  
      same whine.  I then took a motorcycle battery and connected the radio  
      directly to it and the whine was completely gone.  The radio was  
      absolutely clear with the engine running.  I have ordered an inline  
      noise filter suggested by several individuals and will let you know  
      how that turns out when it's installed.  Thanks again to everyone who  
      responded.  Jim
      
      
      On Jan 13, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Mark Sherman wrote:
      
      > < <mailto:msherman95632@yahoo.com> msherman95632@yahoo.com>
      >
      > James.
      >
      > This is an old post to the list I found.  This noise filter will  
      > work for your alt. noise also.
      >
      > Mark S.
      >
      >
      > I did some looking at Radio Shacks web site and found
      > that they have discontinued the noise filter 270-051
      > with no replacement part.
      >
      > I found the same part at Parts Express
      > ( <http://www.partsexpress.com> www.partsexpress.com) under the part
      number 265-042.
      >
      >
      > Worked great on my Val-Com radio.
      >
      > Search the Aero Electric list for my name and you will
      > find all the info when I had my problem.
      >
      > Mark Sherman
      > 701/912
      >
      >
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| Subject:  | new builder websight | 
      
      
      For those interested, I've started to put up a web sight about my project.  So
      far it's just some pictures, not much text or other links.
      I'm plans building a 601XL.
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      Does anyone have any used cores they want to sell? I also need 3 more  cranks 
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