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Tue 01/15/08


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 05:49 AM - Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Scott Laughlin)
     2. 06:40 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Gig Giacona)
     3. 07:24 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
     4. 07:24 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
     5. 09:20 AM - Re: Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed (John C Edwards)
     6. 09:39 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (BobTezyk)
     7. 09:52 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
     8. 09:54 AM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
     9. 10:05 AM - Re: Inspection Check-List (Tim Juhl)
    10. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Craig Payne)
    11. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
    12. 12:04 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
    13. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Inspection Check-List (Bryan Martin)
    14. 01:16 PM - Re: Inspection Check-List - it ain't for the builder (THOMAS SMALL)
    15. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (JG)
    16. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Craig Payne)
    17. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (JG)
    18. 05:12 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Tim Juhl)
    19. 05:23 PM - Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (cookwithgas)
    20. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (John Marzulli)
    21. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! (Terry Phillips)
    22. 07:25 PM - Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed (kmccune)
    23. 07:28 PM - Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise (James Sagerser)
    24. 07:49 PM - Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise (Craig Payne)
    25. 07:55 PM - new builder websight (leinad)
    26. 08:20 PM - Corvair engine (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:49:59 AM PST US
    From: Scott Laughlin <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Subject: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    Hi guys: As promised, click the link below to view a video from the 601XL Rudder Cam of N5SL filmed Sunday, January 13th. http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/Second_Flight_Jan_13_2008.mpg Scott Laughlin 601XL / Corvair #17 Omaha, Nebraska www.cooknwithgas.com _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008


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    Time: 06:40:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
    Scott, When are you going to fly? -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158276#158276


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    Time: 07:24:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "cookwithgas" <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Gig Giacona wrote: > Scott, > > When are you going to fly? Patience Young Grasshopper. Soon. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158288#158288


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    Time: 07:24:34 AM PST US
    From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    Scott Nice photos--you've got a pretty stable platform up there. What sort of setup do you have to record your video signals? My flight instructor, Mark, has been using a 12 VDC VCR to record flights for his students, but his recorder has died. He would be interested in upgrading to some sort of PC based system. I have a USB video adapter that can take coax or S-video input and convert that to a MPG-? signal that can be played on a PC. Mark would like something that could be recorded to a flash drive and then could be burned to a dvd by his students after the lesson. I guess a 12 V DVD-R would also work, but that doesn't sound very rrobust. I'm wondering what's available out there now? Thanks for any insight you can give me. Terry At 07:45 AM 1/15/2008 -0600, you wrote: >Hi guys: > >As promised, click the link below to view a video from the 601XL Rudder >Cam of N5SL filmed Sunday, January 13th. > >http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/Second_Flight_Jan_13_2008.mpg > >Scott Laughlin >601XL / Corvair #17 >Omaha, Nebraska >www.cooknwithgas.com > > >---------- >Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. Get it now! Terry Phillips ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/


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    Time: 09:20:08 AM PST US
    From: John C Edwards <cte82621@centurytel.net>
    Subject: Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed
    I am building mine from the get go without slats and ordered my airframe kit with the leading edge skins uncut for the slats after talking with several 701 owners who say the same thing...."they would never go back to slats after trying the VG's....." John in Seattle at mykitlog.com/kapowsin


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    Time: 09:39:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "BobTezyk" <bob@eaglesnestestates.org>
    Good job Scott. The rudder-cam is a great addition. -------- do not archive Regards, Bob Tezyk N78QT - 601XL QB/ Jab3300 Working on elevator http://neo.datamatrix.com/eaglesnestestates/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&amp;Itemid=32&amp;catid=23 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158316#158316


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    Time: 09:52:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
    Not all video is created equal. Generally digital will be higher quality than analog and less susceptible to interference. High quality requires a lot of memory and the ability to transfer and store a lot of data quickly. I suspect that the quality and quantity of video that could be downloaded to a flash drive would be unsatisfactory for most purposes. There are some cameras out their that burn directly to a mini-DVD or hard drive that might work in this situation. I shoot and edit video professionally (documentary films.) Everything I do is in high def, recorded to tape and then downloaded to a computer for editing. One thing you learn very quickly is that you'll never have higher quality than the original source so you need to determine just what that quality needs to be. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158319#158319


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    Time: 09:54:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
    Whoops! My comments were directed to Terry. Enjoyed the rudder cam video scott. How about a pix of the installation? Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158321#158321


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    Time: 10:05:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Inspection Check-List
    From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
    Guys, Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish that the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the DAR or FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness certificate? Comments appreciated. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158326#158326


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    Time: 10:13:44 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    > How about a pix of the installation? Look at the top of the page here: http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Tail.html -- Craig


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    Time: 11:18:16 AM PST US
    From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    Thanks for the thoughts, Tim. Probably anything Mark does will be better than what he has been doing. I'm attaching a screen image from playing a digitized lesson segment with Windows Media Player on my PC. The video file was made by sending the image from a VHS tape to my Win TV box, and saving the digitized file on my PC. As you can see, it's none too sharp. None-the-less, I can see out the windscreen well enough to know where I am. And, since I know the panel very well, and, since I can see the indicators on the altimeter, ASI, and tach, I know what those readings are, even though I cannot read the numbers. I can also interpret the AI images. The interesting thing is that Mark told me that the images on my PC were the best he had seen from his setup. Can he do better? Ya, lots. But he is not likely to pay much, so even this quality, in a completely digital setup, would probably make him happy. And, since he only charges $50/hr wet for his 150 and $30/hr for lessons, I won't complain. I would add that the videos were very valuable to me. More than once, I saw my hands move the yoke on the video in ways that I would have sworn did not happen. But, it's hard to deny the video evidence. And, on my fly-monthly-to-keep-up-the-skills-while-building program, I always review my "How to land this airplane" video before I go. Plus, I'm planning to implement something similar when I get to my Phase I testing. I think that the automatic recording of the panel and the audio will prove to be a valuable, low effort, record keeping technique while testing. So, the question is, what is a cost effective way to save low-to-medium quality video for student's use? Terry At 09:49 AM 1/15/2008 -0800, you wrote: >Not all video is created equal. Generally digital will be higher quality >than analog and less susceptible to interference. High quality requires a >lot of memory and the ability to transfer and store a lot of data >quickly. I suspect that the quality and quantity of video that could be >downloaded to a flash drive would be unsatisfactory for most >purposes. There are some cameras out their that burn directly to a >mini-DVD or hard drive that might work in this situation. > >I shoot and edit video professionally (documentary films.) Everything I >do is in high def, recorded to tape and then downloaded to a computer for >editing. One thing you learn very quickly is that you'll never have >higher quality than the original source so you need to determine just what >that quality needs to be. > >Tim Terry Phillips ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/


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    Time: 12:04:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "cookwithgas" <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Terry: Craig had the pictures right. I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the rudder ($79 from Ebay). It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound! Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the power adapter I installed on my panel. The last thing I need is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit. Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the setup. The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI. I'm using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it. I hope to have lots more videos to post as flying continues. I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling to see it fly. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair #17 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360


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    Time: 12:05:01 PM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Inspection Check-List
    The FAA maintains a list of kits that have been found to meet the 51% rule, the C601XL is already on that list so you shouldn't have to bother with this form. See: http://tinyurl.com/2fw7wb Tim Juhl wrote: > > Guys, > Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish that the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the DAR or FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness certificate? > > Comments appreciated. > -- Bryan Martin Zenith 601XL N61BM Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive Do Not Archive


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    Time: 01:16:16 PM PST US
    From: "THOMAS SMALL" <tjs22t@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Inspection Check-List - it ain't for the builder
    Would a copy of the FAA form 8000-38 that Zenith filled out to establish that the kit meets the 51% rule be something that would be good to show the DAR or FAA when getting our planes inspected for an airworthiness certificate? Tim, you said comments appreciated. I dislike dealing with speculation or statements without factual background ("I remember reading once..."), but if we could get the truth on this matter about inspection lists I doubt 8000-38 is really for the builder. It seems that "I read once..." that it was for the kit manufacturer OR the builder with an exp-ab that was using lots of parts from another a/c or two. No facts in my statement, but asking ten different FSDO or MIDO offices will get you ten interpretations. The FAA guys are here but they're not necessarily here to help us with actual readings of the regs. Has anyone called Joe Norris at the EAA on this? You could have the form ready if you think it would grease the inspection process. With the way the inspector types and DARs differ, anything can help, but be ready for them to just brush it aside and catch you somewhere else. cheers jeff HDS/3300 do not archive as the stuff below can be interpreted in many ways +++ e. Checklist. The FAA Form 8000-38,Fabrication/Assembly Operation Checklist, is used by the FAA as an aid in determining if a manufacturer's aircraft meets the major portion requirements of section 2 1.19 1 (g). AC 20-139 413196 +++ Notice it says Plans-built a/c in next section AC 20-139 413196 b. Completed Kit-Built Aircraft. When a kit has been evaluated and published in the listing of 4 eligible amateur-builta ircraft kits, and no commercial assistance was used in the construction of the x aircraft using the evaluated kit, the AS1 or DAR will not be required to make another major portion rule determination for the completed aircraft. c. Plans-Built Aircraft. (1) During final inspectionf or compliancew ith section2 1.191( g), a plans-built aircraft must be evaluatedu sing the FAA Form 8000-38a s a guide. If the builder intendst o utilize commercial assistancet,h e FAA Form 8000-38c an be submittedt o the FAA prior to construction,l isting the taskso r processesfo r which the commerciala ssistanceis proposed.I t shoulda lso show the intendedf abrication and assemblyt askst he builder will perform. On the basiso f this pre-constructionc hecklist, a builder of a plans-built aircraft should be able to obtain an evaluation in writing from the AS1 or DAR of the effect that the proposedc ommercial assistancew ill haveo n the major portion requirementf or the completed aircraft. +++ And this sure seems like it's directed at someone evaluating a manufactuer's kit - perhaps for the 51% rule. 413196 AC 20-139 Appendix 1 APPENDIX 1. PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS FOR FAA FORM 8000-38, FABRICATION/ASSEMBLY OPERATION CHECKLIST 1. PURPOSE. This appendix provides instructions for completing FAA Form 8000-38. A sample form is included as figure 1. 2. GUIDANCE. This form may be used by any person to establish the eligibility of an aircraft to be certificated experimental, for the purpose of operating as an amateur-built. Prepare the form as follows: a. Enter the company name and address, aircraft model, (by name and/or number), document name and date (manufacturer's parts list, assembly manual, etc., with latest revision) and type of aircraft (land, sea, fixed-wing, rotorcraft, etc.). b. Mark the specific tasks required to fabricate and assemble the aircraft. Mark, an "x" under the column heading "Accomplished By" in the appropriate space when the task is performed by the AMATEUR. If the task is performed by the kit manufacturer or by a person providing commercial assistance,a mark will be placed in the KIT MANUFACTURER column. Additional blank lines are provided to list any tasks not on the checklist. If a task is listed and not applicable to the construction of the aircraft enter N/A in the appropriate space. c. Use the comments area to enter any additional comments, information or statements, as necessary. d. Print or type name of person performing the evaluation of the kit or aircraft. e. The person performing the evaluation of the kit or aircraft should sign their name in the signature block.


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    Time: 01:47:21 PM PST US
    From: "JG" <vgstol@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so similar needs to Scott's. I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are good. The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of XP) is easy for editing and uploading to YouTube. The procedure for starting the camera to record from aux input requires several steps of manipulating little buttons and following propts on the little screen - not easy while flying..... And the little screen is too small for good live viewing in the cockpit. I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for viewing in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done. But is there a better way, to record directly onto a lap top?? Don't need broadcast TV quality, just reasonable.... Anyone out there know how to best do this?? JG ----- Original Message ----- From: cookwithgas To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Terry: Craig had the pictures right. I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the rudder ($79 from Ebay). It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound! Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the power adapter I installed on my panel. The last thing I need is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit. Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the setup. The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI. I'm using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it. I hope to have lots more videos to post as flying continues. I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling to see it fly. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair #17 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360


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    Time: 02:47:35 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    If you buy a "webcam" it will have a USB interface instead of "composite video" (an RCA connector). Then you can connect the camera directly to a laptop and capture with software either bundled with the camera of provided with your computer. Windows XP includes a program called "Windows Movie Maker". Resolution will be as good or better than a conventional TV. But the laptop may produce interference on your radio. -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JG Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so similar needs to Scott's. I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are good. The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of XP) is easy for editing and uploading to YouTube. The procedure for starting the camera to record from aux input requires several steps of manipulating little buttons and following propts on the little screen - not easy while flying..... And the little screen is too small for good live viewing in the cockpit. I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for viewing in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done. But is there a better way, to record directly onto a lap top?? Don't need broadcast TV quality, just reasonable.... Anyone out there know how to best do this?? JG ----- Original Message ----- From: cookwithgas <mailto:cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! Terry: Craig had the pictures right. I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the rudder ($79 from Ebay). It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound! Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the power adapter I installed on my panel. The last thing I need is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit. Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the setup. The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI. I'm using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it. I hope to have lots more videos to post as flying continues. I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling to see it fly. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair #17 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360 <Bnbsp; Features Chat, --> http://www.matron====================== <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List> bsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== ===========


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    Time: 03:06:52 PM PST US
    From: "JG" <vgstol@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    Thank you for that Craig. That sounds like a really easy way to go, I'll try it. Yes, Windows Movie Maker is really good, with excellent support on outside forums, and exactly the right price... Do not archive JG ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! If you buy a "webcam" it will have a USB interface instead of "composite video" (an RCA connector). Then you can connect the camera directly to a laptop and capture with software either bundled with the camera of provided with your computer. Windows XP includes a program called "Windows Movie Maker". Resolution will be as good or better than a conventional TV. But the laptop may produce interference on your radio. -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JG Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:43 PM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! I've been using a bullet cam on the rudder to record tuft testing, so similar needs to Scott's. I've been using a video camera with aux input, and the results are good. The results load into the computer, and 'Movie Maker' (part of XP) is easy for editing and uploading to YouTube. The procedure for starting the camera to record from aux input requires several steps of manipulating little buttons and following propts on the little screen - not easy while flying..... And the little screen is too small for good live viewing in the cockpit. I considered trying to multiple to one of those screens used for viewing in-car DVDs, and maybe record onto a DVD-R as Scott has done. But is there a better way, to record directly onto a lap top?? Don't need broadcast TV quality, just reasonable.... Anyone out there know how to best do this?? JG ----- Original Message ----- From: cookwithgas To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight! <cookwithgas@hotmail.com> Terry: Craig had the pictures right. I just mounted a cheep "bullet" camera on the rudder ($79 from Ebay). It has sound but I didn't run a line for sound! Recording was more of a challenge and what I ended up with is a cheap DVD recorder (under $50) from Wal-Mart and a small inverter that I plug into the power adapter I installed on my panel. The last thing I need is some sort of small TV so I can see what is recording from the cockpit. Right now I have to set everything up with a large TV in the hangar and start recording and leave the power on or I'll lose the setup. The next challenge is getting the video from DVD to MPG or AVI. I'm using a Demo version of NERO right now to see if I like it. I hope to have lots more videos to post as flying continues. I hope you are enjoying the videos and keep building - it's a great feeling to see it fly. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair #17 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158360#158360 <Bnbsp; Features Chat, --> http://www.matron=================== === bsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com nbsp; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ================ http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:12:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
    Scott, Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some interference. Some looks like a poor cable connection while some appears to come from another source. I wonder if radio transmissions from the plane are somehow interfering with the video signal. Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly to a laptop, however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig of video every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive space. Tim -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158425#158425


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    Time: 05:23:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    From: "cookwithgas" <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
    Tim: The interference was the radio. Next time we are going to talk less. The good news is that my radio is working perfectly picking up transmissions from miles away. One less thing to worry about. More to come, Scott Laughlin Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158428#158428


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    Time: 05:46:30 PM PST US
    From: "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    I saw in another post you mentioned that you do professional videography... Recently I bought a Canon HV20 and Final Cut Express. So far the results are very good, but stabilizing the image, especially if I'm flying is a problem. Do you have any advice ( besides trying not to shoot through the window )? Thanks, -John On Jan 15, 2008 5:06 PM, Tim Juhl <juhl@avci.net> wrote: > > Scott, > Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some interference. > Some looks like a poor cable connection while some appears to come from > another source. I wonder if radio transmissions from the plane are somehow > interfering with the video signal. > > Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly > to a laptop, however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig > of video every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive > space. > > Tim > > -------- > ______________ > CFII > Champ L16A flying > Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A > Working on fuselage > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158425#158425 > > -- John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -Airplane The Movie


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    Time: 06:13:13 PM PST US
    From: Terry Phillips <ttp44@rkymtn.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Cam N5SL Second Flight!
    Tim 1-sided DVD's have about 4.3 gig of storage, IIRC, and will record ~2 hrs of video at pretty good quality, which is about 28-minutes/gig. Is there some way to convert the "full resolution video" to DVD quality w/o too much hassle? If so, that would be more than adequate for my flight instructor's needs. As far as flying with a laptop, I definitely plan to use a laptop with Waiters data acquisition program, (see) http://www.iflyez.com/EFISRecorder.shtml to record the EFIS, EIS, and GPS data while in flight testing, so adding the webcam to the mix would not be much additional effort, assuming the laptop could handle the workload. Waiter's program could also be very useful for JG in his tuft testing if he has an EFIS. He would just need a sync at some point between his data log and his video to have complete correlation between the video and the flight data. Terry At 05:06 PM 1/15/2008 -0800, you wrote: >Scott, >Viewing your video from the rudder cam I've noticed some >interference. Some looks like a poor cable connection while some appears >to come from another source. I wonder if radio transmissions from the >plane are somehow interfering with the video signal. > >Regarding a webcam - with a long enough cable you could connect directly >to a laptop, however - a full resolution video signal burns up about a gig >of video every 5 minutes so you'd need to make sure you had the hard drive >space. > >Tim Terry Phillips ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/


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    Time: 07:25:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: New video on StolspeedNew video on Stolspeed
    From: "kmccune" <kmccune@somtel.net>
    What happened to the rest of this thread? Kevin -------- Kevin N701DZ Reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158452#158452


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    Time: 07:28:16 PM PST US
    From: James Sagerser <alaskajim@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise
    I asked Jabiru about the diode suggestion today. They said the Jabiru system is a set of permanent magnets producing current to a regulator-rectifier and doesn't have a diode like a Continental or Lycoming so I guess that rules that out but thanks for replying. Jim On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Don_Lewis wrote: > You most likely have a diode out in the alt...... > A filter capacitor can't fix that.... > Don L. > A&P- IA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Sagerser > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise > > > Here's the latest on my situation. I connected my radio directly to > the battery (power & ground) in the aft fuselage but still had the > same whine. I then took a motorcycle battery and connected the radio > directly to it and the whine was completely gone. The radio was > absolutely clear with the engine running. I have ordered an inline > noise filter suggested by several individuals and will let you know > how that turns out when it's installed. Thanks again to everyone who > responded. Jim > > > On Jan 13, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Mark Sherman wrote: > > > <msherman95632@yahoo.com> > > > > James. > > > > This is an old post to the list I found. This noise filter will > > work for your alt. noise also. > > > > Mark S. > > > > > > > > > > I did some looking at Radio Shacks web site and found > > that they have discontinued the noise filter 270-051 > > with no replacement part. > > > > I found the same part at Parts Express > > (www.partsexpress.com) under the part number 265-042. > > > > > > Worked great on my Val-Com radio. > > > > Search the Aero Electric list for my name and you will > > find all the info when I had my problem. > > > > Mark Sherman > > 701/912 > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > ><====================== > Features Chat, --> http://www.matron====================== > bsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http:// > forums.matronics.com > bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/ > contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > =========================================================== >


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    Time: 07:49:04 PM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise
    There are plenty of diodes (rectifiers) and other semiconductors inside the regulator that could be fried. AC still has to be turned into DC somewhere. See page 54 in the manual linked below for a schematic of the regulator. But since the regulator is encapsulated you would have to replace the whole unit. www.jabirupacific.com/pdf/3300ManualHyd.pdf -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Sagerser Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise I asked Jabiru about the diode suggestion today. They said the Jabiru system is a set of permanent magnets producing current to a regulator-rectifier and doesn't have a diode like a Continental or Lycoming so I guess that rules that out but thanks for replying. Jim On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Don_Lewis wrote: You most likely have a diode out in the alt...... A filter capacitor can't fix that.... Don L. A&P- IA ----- Original Message ----- From: <mailto:alaskajim@cox.net> James Sagerser Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: Strobe noise/alt noise <mailto:alaskajim@cox.net> alaskajim@cox.net> Here's the latest on my situation. I connected my radio directly to the battery (power & ground) in the aft fuselage but still had the same whine. I then took a motorcycle battery and connected the radio directly to it and the whine was completely gone. The radio was absolutely clear with the engine running. I have ordered an inline noise filter suggested by several individuals and will let you know how that turns out when it's installed. Thanks again to everyone who responded. Jim On Jan 13, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Mark Sherman wrote: > < <mailto:msherman95632@yahoo.com> msherman95632@yahoo.com> > > James. > > This is an old post to the list I found. This noise filter will > work for your alt. noise also. > > Mark S. > > > I did some looking at Radio Shacks web site and found > that they have discontinued the noise filter 270-051 > with no replacement part. > > I found the same part at Parts Express > ( <http://www.partsexpress.com> www.partsexpress.com) under the part number 265-042. > > > Worked great on my Val-Com radio. > > Search the Aero Electric list for my name and you will > find all the info when I had my problem. > > Mark Sherman > 701/912 > > > __________________________________________________ > <http://mail.yahoo.com> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > <http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ><====================== Features Chat, --> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List> http://www.matron====================== bsp; via the Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com==nbsp; generous bsp; href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c==== =========== - The Zenith-List Email Forum class="Apple-converted-space"> --> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List --> <http://forums.matronics.com> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. class="Apple-converted-space"> --> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:55:28 PM PST US
    Subject: new builder websight
    From: "leinad" <leinad@hughes.net>
    For those interested, I've started to put up a web sight about my project. So far it's just some pictures, not much text or other links. I'm plans building a 601XL. http://daniel.dempseyfamily.us -------- Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=158459#158459


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    Time: 08:20:12 PM PST US
    From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
    Subject: Corvair engine
    Does anyone have any used cores they want to sell? I also need 3 more cranks to send to nitride so if anyone else needs a crank done contact me off list. Jeff **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489




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