Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:59 AM - Re: 601 Front Wheel Instructions (Paul Mulwitz)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Zenith (Juan Vega)
3. 07:24 AM - Re: Re: Zenith (Darrell Haas)
4. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Zenith (Robin Bellach)
5. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Zenith (wscribb)
6. 08:21 AM - 601 Taildragger (Ron DeWees)
7. 09:01 AM - Crank shaft update (Aerolitellc@aol.com)
8. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Zenith (Art Gibeaut)
9. 09:56 AM - Re: VG's (Les Goldner)
10. 10:33 AM - Re: VG's (Keith Ashcraft)
11. 10:37 AM - VG's (Joe Spencer)
12. 11:12 AM - Re: VG's ()
13. 11:54 AM - Any builders/flyers in the State College PA area (Keith Ashcraft)
14. 12:19 PM - Re:Advise (MaxNr@aol.com)
15. 02:41 PM - Carcon auto air??????? (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
16. 04:03 PM - Re: Zenith (hansriet)
17. 04:30 PM - Cabin airfoil (stepinwolf)
18. 05:06 PM - Re: Cabin airfoil (ROBERT SCEPPA)
19. 05:16 PM - Re: Part Stoutness (David Downey)
20. 06:35 PM - Re: Intro and William Wynn Question (David Downey)
21. 07:14 PM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Prop Type Selection ()
22. 08:09 PM - Re: Intro and William Wynn Question (my post , read or delete) (Gary Gower)
23. 08:34 PM - Re: Cabin airfoil (kmccune)
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Front Wheel Instructions |
Hi Don,
I am sorry it is so late for a first response to your message on nose
gear. I just got the email dated 1/22 and today is 1/25. There
seems to be some backup (at least for me) in the email delivery system.
I don't recall finding any instructions for doing the nose gear. I
found the drawings pretty straight forward, but there are a few areas
of special challenge.
I painted the main nose gear column before installation and found the
bottom plastic bearing to be tighter than I thought was good. I used
a Dremel tool with sanding drum to take a bit off the inside of the bearing.
I posted a solution to the challenge of stretching the bungee cord
into position with pictures a while back. The tool I invented was a
piece of PVC pipe with one end cut an a angle. This makes a nice
tool for slipping the bungee in place. If you need a new picture,
just send me an email.
The biggest challenge is the treatment of the slots where the tie
rods pass through the firewall. My version of the drawings leaves
huge holes in the firewall that don't even allow the steering to work
properly. There are several solutions already posted for this area,
and I have my own (which I am not proud enough of to post since it is
outrageously complicated to build).
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 06:30 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote:
>I am about finished with my fuselage on my 601 XL, and getting ready
>to start installing the landing gear. I copied the Gear/Brake Lines
>section 6-G down from Zenith's builders web site. But I couldn't
>find a section of the instruction manual for installation of the
>front landing gear. Is there one? Or do you just build it from the
>plans? Or is it complete enough from the factory to just put it
>in? I have the factory complete kit.
>
>Don Mountain
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call zenith and they will give you a number to call. you can buy the whole set
from when they start publising, till present, and it has all the ADs and hints
on how to build a great plane. Any ideas on this forum has been pretty much
thought up and printed in those newletters.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:32 PM
>To: amyvega2005@earthlink.net
>Subject: Zenith
>
>Hi Juan,
> How can one get a hold of Zenith Magazines? New and old?
>Thanks,
>Darrell Haas
>601 XL
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Thank you.
Darrell
On 1/25/08, Juan Vega <amyvega2005@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> call zenith and they will give you a number to call. you can buy the whole set
from when they start publising, till present, and it has all the ADs and hints
on how to build a great plane. Any ideas on this forum has been pretty much
thought up and printed in those newletters.
>
> Juan
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com>
> >Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:32 PM
> >To: amyvega2005@earthlink.net
> >Subject: Zenith
> >
> >Hi Juan,
> > How can one get a hold of Zenith Magazines? New and old?
> >Thanks,
> >Darrell Haas
> >601 XL
>
>
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ZENAIR NEWSLETTER contact info:
ZENAIR NEWS
1002 HEATHER LN
HARTFORD WI 53027-9045
262-966-7627, FAX -9627
sskrog@zenair.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Vega" <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
<zenith-list-request@matronics.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith
>
> call zenith and they will give you a number to call. you can buy the
> whole set from when they start publising, till present, and it has all the
> ADs and hints on how to build a great plane. Any ideas on this forum has
> been pretty much thought up and printed in those newletters.
>
> Juan
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com>
>>Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:32 PM
>>To: amyvega2005@earthlink.net
>>Subject: Zenith
>>
>>Hi Juan,
>> How can one get a hold of Zenith Magazines? New and old?
>>Thanks,
>>Darrell Haas
>>601 XL
>
>
>
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Here is the contact information for the Zenair news.
Phone 262-966-7627
Fax 262-966-9627
Email sskrog@zenair.org
Hope this helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Juan Vega
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:51 AM
zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith
call zenith and they will give you a number to call. you can buy the whole
set from when they start publising, till present, and it has all the ADs and
hints on how to build a great plane. Any ideas on this forum has been
pretty much thought up and printed in those newletters.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:32 PM
>To: amyvega2005@earthlink.net
>Subject: Zenith
>
>Hi Juan,
> How can one get a hold of Zenith Magazines? New and old?
>Thanks,
>Darrell Haas
>601 XL
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
I can respond to some of your concerns, but the decision is a personal
one, as you have read. I acquired a 601HDS taildragger project and the
decision was made for me. I also thought it looked better but have come
to love it's handling and performance. It does eliminate a lot of
hardware hanging up front in the firewall area and the rudder feels
quite sensitive since you aren't driving the steering rods going to the
nosewheel. There is no air leak or carbon monoxide entry slit, and the
air box can sit flat on the firewall and feed the carby air with less
bends in the hoses, at least with a Jabiru motor.
Ground handling is simple and visibility is not compromised to any
great extent and no "S" turns are required to taxi. My plane seems to
have about 10 mph greater speed than nosewheel HDS models and the stall
qualifies it for LS category. I think many of these benefits are
available to any builder who keeps his plane light, straight, and simple
but I couldn't be happier with my choice.
Re insurance- I had no time logged in other than a Cub-like
ultralight taildragger, and got a tailwheel checkout in a Taylorcraft BC
12 before flying my HDS. The Taylorcraft was very similar in handling
to my ultralight and I got the endorsement in a few hours. I did not
apply for insurance until I flew off the Phase I limitation but had no
problem getting a policy via the EAA. It was comparable to what I paid
for a Mooney I had previously owned. They gave me a lot more trouble
about flying out of a turf strip than having a taildragger.
I think Zenith is understandably reluctant to talk up taildraggers
but that is for liability reasons and not performance. Whatever you
decide I would second the suggestion that you get some time in a
taildragger. It's a lot of fun and teaches you what your feet are
supposed to be doing when you fly.
Ron
N601TD
> Time: 05:13:50 AM PST US
> From: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Taildragger or not
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I don't want to start a flame war but:
>
> I am thinking along the lines of the tail dragger version and would like to know
> what you guys think about the tail dragger 601XL vs the Tricycle version of the
> 601XL.
> -------snip-------
>
do not archive
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| Subject: | Crank shaft update |
For those of you that have sent me your crankshafts I have added a new
status page to the web site for you to see the progress and at what stage your
crank is at. I have e mailed most of you with your customer #'S and will be
sending the rest of the customer #'S later today. We are using a number system
to
protect your privacy.
Aerolite has also learned that a price increase was coming that would have
doubled the price for Nitrideing but due to Aerolite's long relationship with
our Nitrider they have agreed to hold the current price for the foreseeable
future. For those that just want to have your crank Nitrided without the
machining done the price will be $125.00 + shipping for a 48 hour process. Most
nitrider's only process cranks for 24 hours and charge you more.
The new web page address is
_http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Crankshaft_Status.html_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Crankshaft_Status.html)
Thanks
Jeff
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I bought the whole set last year when I started my 701, and I don't regret it.
Besides, it was a great primer and fun reading while I was waiting for various
tools and supplies.
--- On Fri, 1/25/08, Robin Bellach <601zv@ritternet.com> wrote:
> From: Robin Bellach <601zv@ritternet.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Date: Friday, January 25, 2008, 9:35 AM
> Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
>
> ZENAIR NEWSLETTER contact info:
>
> ZENAIR NEWS
> 1002 HEATHER LN
> HARTFORD WI 53027-9045
>
> 262-966-7627, FAX -9627
>
> sskrog@zenair.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Juan Vega"
> <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
> To: "Darrell Haas" <darrellhaas@gmail.com>;
>
> <zenith-list-request@matronics.com>;
> <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 8:51 AM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith
>
>
> <amyvega2005@earthlink.net>
> >
> > call zenith and they will give you a number to call.
> you can buy the
> > whole set from when they start publising, till
> present, and it has all the
> > ADs and hints on how to build a great plane. Any
> ideas on this forum has
> > been pretty much thought up and printed in those
> newletters.
> >
> > Juan
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: Darrell Haas <darrellhaas@gmail.com>
> >>Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:32 PM
> >>To: amyvega2005@earthlink.net
> >>Subject: Zenith
> >>
> >>Hi Juan,
> >> How can one get a hold of Zenith Magazines?
> New and old?
> >>Thanks,
> >>Darrell Haas
> >>601 XL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Looking for last minute shopping deals?
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Joe,
I give up! What does EWCG stand for? (EW?)
Les
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Spencer
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: VG's
Do you know how much further back, if any, that you changed the center of
lift on your wing by removing the slats and how this impacts the allowed CG
for your 701?
Les
Les
I don't know about the center of lift. The EWCG moved from 12% to 14% MAC if
I remember correctly but do not have the wt/bal with me to verify. The cg
will move aft tho that's for sure as the slats weighed 13#. I can't tell any
difference in the way it flies, in that respect.
Joe
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I think that is refering to Empty Weight CG.
Keith
************************************************************
Les Goldner wrote:
Joe,
I give up! What does EWCG stand for? (EW?)
Les
________________________________
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-zenith-list-serve
r@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf
Of Joe Spencer
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: VG's
Do you know how much further back, if any, that you changed the center of
lift on your wing by removing the slats and how this impacts the allowed CG
for your 701?
Les
Les
I don't know about the center of lift. The EWCG moved from 12% to 14% MAC i
f I remember correctly but do not have the wt/bal with me to verify. The cg
will move aft tho that's for sure as the slats weighed 13#. I can't tell a
ny difference in the way it flies, in that respect.
Joe
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List"<http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Zenith-List>>http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matroni
cs.com"<http://forums.matronics.com>>http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"<http://www.matronics.com/con
tribution>>http://www.matronics.com/c
--
*************************************
Keith Ashcraft
ITT Industries
Advanced Engineering & Sciences
5009 Centennial Blvd.
Colorado Springs, CO
80919
(719) 599-1787 -- work
(719) 332-4364 -- cell
keith.ashcraft@itt.com<mailto:keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
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Joe,
I give up! What does EWCG stand for? (EW?)
Les
empty weight center of gravity
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empty weight CG
David Mikesell
230 Theresa Drive, #6
Cloverdale, CA 95425
209-224-4485
skyguynca@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Goldner
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: VG's
Joe,
I give up! What does EWCG stand for? (EW?)
Les
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Spencer
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Zenith-List@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: VG's
Do you know how much further back, if any, that you changed the
center of
lift on your wing by removing the slats and how this impacts the
allowed CG
for your 701?
Les
Les
I don't know about the center of lift. The EWCG moved from 12% to
14% MAC if I remember correctly but do not have the wt/bal with me to
verify. The cg will move aft tho that's for sure as the slats weighed
13#. I can't tell any difference in the way it flies, in that respect.
Joe
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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| Subject: | Any builders/flyers in the State College PA area |
All,
I am doing some TDY travel into the State College, PA area. I was wondering
if there are any builders/flyers somewhat close to here. I do know there a
re builders in the Pittsburgh and Harrisburg area. I don't know my schedule
yet but I might get a free day here or there over the next month to visit.
Contact me offline!!
Thanks,
Keith
CH701 -- scratch
Smyth Sidewinder -- scratch
Teenie Two -- scratch
N 38.9947
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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I get a lot from the postings from just about all members, newbies or oldies.
Keep them coming. Another way to get a read on experience is to see if they
might be listed on the FAA's web site as a recipient of the FAA Wright
Bros.Master Pilot Award. Or the Charles Taylor Award. Regarding certificate dates,
what if your first certificate was not issued by the FAA but by the CAA (Dept.
of
Commerce)? Would that show up? What if you were issued three commercials
three different times? Would all appear or just the first? Or the last? Maybe it
would help if you simply ask a poster for his/her certificate number instead
just replying with a knee-jerk flame. Or worse, if you, yourself don't have the
background to understand the post. I doubt that an ID thief could get a SSAN
from a certificate number. Could be wrong. BTW, you did ask the FAA to remove
your SSAN from your certificate, didn't you?
Bob 601XL/Lyc (Cert# avail on req) Do not archive
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| Subject: | Carcon auto air??????? |
Will the person that sent me the crank from Carcon auto air please send me
an e mail off list? I have no idea who you are. LOL
Thanks
Jeff
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I have the complete up to date binders for the 600/601 (not sure if you were asking
for 700 or 600 series) and I am willing to sell you the set for half prize
+ shipping.
Hans
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Has anyone built up the section over the cabin as an airfoil, in the same shape
as the wing. I'm not planning to do much flying while looking though the skylight,
so I am thinking that by building it in this way, I would have an additional
16 to 17 sq. feet of wing area, not to mention another 4.5' section of slats.
Thanks to those of you, who will take the time to respond to my request for information.
Bob, the 701 scratch
--------
Live each day, as if it was your last
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin airfoil |
> I think the "Savanah" has a straight wing instead
> of the break in the middle...do not archive....
--- stepinwolf <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca> wrote:
> <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
>
> Has anyone built up the section over the cabin as an
> airfoil, in the same shape as the wing. I'm not
> planning to do much flying while looking though the
> skylight, so I am thinking that by building it in
> this way, I would have an additional 16 to 17 sq.
> feet of wing area, not to mention another 4.5'
> section of slats.
>
> Thanks to those of you, who will take the time to
> respond to my request for information.
>
> Bob, the 701 scratch
>
> --------
> Live each day, as if it was your last
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160512#160512
>
>
>
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> browse
> Un/Subscription,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List
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| Subject: | Re: Part Stoutness |
it is likely that the 3M tape is VHB (very high bond). That is the tape that virtually
all busses (other than the riveted school busses!) are build with today.
The adhesive on both faces and the foam body of the tape is relatively insensitive
to solvents and to service temperatures below 200F. The addition of a
rivet will likely result in eventual cracking due to the aluminum being forced
out of plane at the fastener location.
The surfaces need to be as clean as can be achieved. If the appropriate level of
surface cleanliness is attained, that stuff is virtually indistructable.
The double stick tape is a good idea, however it might be wise to put
three rivets in... one on each end and one in the middle... to prevent
the TINY vibrations from ever loosening the tape. Yeah, the airplane
will have a million and three rivets instead of just a million :)
LRM wrote:
> That be me. I used automotive double sided trim tape, 3M brand. You
> can find it at NAPA. LRM www.skyhawg.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Terry Turnquist
> *To:* zenith-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Zenith-List: Part Stoutness
>
> I can't remember who to give credit to, but someone here glued "L"
> angles diagonally to the fuselage to reduce oil canning without
> creating extra rivet lines.
>
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
100 HP Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Intro and William Wynn Question |
I just received my installation manual today - took a couple of weeks. Very nice
work.
Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello All,
Been lurking on the list for some time. Building 601QBK I took delivery of about
3 weeks ago.
I ordered the Corvair Conversion Manual and 601 installation manual from William
Wynn (paid through paypal) about 3 weeks ago and haven't received it yet.
Got no response to 2 emails and can't find a phone number on his website.
Doesn't seem like a great way to do business. Has anybody else had any issues with
this? Can anybody give me a phone number for him?
Thanks
Bill
Bill Pagan
EAA Tech Counselor #4395
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Harleysville (SE) PA
100 HP Corvair
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith-List Digest: Prop Type Selection |
Doug,
I went with a three blade Warp Drive Composite prop w/tapered tips. With my lyc
0-235 it provides me with light weight and the ability to adjust it for maximum
cruise or improved climb. Chris Heintz is pretty happy with the wood prop
he chose to use with the prototype 601xl, which uses the 0-235. The disadvantage
is (for me) the fixed pitch and the caution that wooden props should not be
flown extensively in rain. I got the nickel leading edge on the Warp drive prop
which allows its use in rain. Either wood or composite should shatter on a
prop strike to prevent damaging the crank from what I have read. Plus I like the
cool factor of the three blade prop. A two blade Warp will work on the ~ 100
hp engines but they recommend no more than 50 hp per blade so the three blade
is recommended with the 0-235.
Craig S.
N601XS, 601xl, 0-235 lyc, waiting for spring to plug in the wings
I'm interested in getting input on which type of prop to use. Wood, woodcomp,
carbon,....?
What is everyone using, and why?
Doug
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| Subject: | Re: Intro and William Wynn Question (my post , read or |
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Hello Friends.
This tread has been in the list for years... And W W keeps making parts for
such a great engine. at its own pace, like the battery rabbit.
I was not going to post about this, but could not resist :-) Probably I am completly
wrong but I feel this way.
Personal note to clarify my position:
In our present case we are not using the WW Corvair conversion in our 601XL,
reason is that we were building our kit, with no engine decision yet (as most
of the list remember, from my posts). A couple of months ago, when we were
building, a local pilot came to our shop to see how a Zenith kit was built (he
was one point short to order a kit itself).
He got in love with the plane and bought our project on the spot, with the condition
that we will finish the plane for him... He chossed the Jab 3300 as a
powerplant (great engine in fact)...
Now back to WW.
I have been in Ultralight- Homebuilding since 1982, lots of companies (with
good faith all, or most of them) have open and closed their doors in the auto
engine conversion dream.
We all dream to have the perfect auto conversion: Powerfull, inexpensive, low
GPH regular auto fuel, light weight with in reason, off the shelf spare parts,
etc. Yes I know, is almost impossible, the ones that still are in business
all have something "not perfect" in their engine conversion, but can for sure
be flown in a safe way.
One thing I am sure with WW (I dont have the honor of meet him in person yet)
but read about him since his first articles in the magazines (?year).
What I can tell you is that I am sure that all of us (low buck homebuilders)
we have in them (WW and TEAM) one of the hand full most honest group of persons
in that business.
Their only problem (personal opinion) is that probably they dont charge enough
as their product (parts amd knowlege) is worth,,, (Low price engine goal)
There are two sides of having a succesfull company (and lots ways in betwen).
One that makes lots of money, no matter sometimes how and what, and another one
that keeps first class quality first of all, even with income sacrifice,
For this last ones, their word and prestige is more important that money .
Also some of this "Self made CEOs" find the BIG problem that they (and team)
need to learn to manage a new born business and at the same time continue to
develope their good products with low competitive price in mind... Two Very diferent
Goals with few personel.
Now Closing: I only hope that we all have the patience to give them a chance,
in the mean time they learn to grow as a succesfull company (as big as they
feel confortable).
Is not an easy task in either part (we or them), but at least we, with the size
of our wallets, have other more expensive engine options :-)
They dont, they will keep their good, hard, honest work, with us or without
us buying.
Now as you say in USA: Off the soap box :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
701 912S, builsing 601XL Jab 3300
"Important bonus: We also have the luck to build our kits from another Honest
Team: The Heintz family"
Larry H <skyridersbn@yahoo.com> wrote:
William did respond with another email to me, asking me the person's name that
had made these statements to me. I gave William the name. William told me
he would personally look into it and resolve this immediately. He said there
should be no reason WHY this person would be saying this - if he owes him parts,
he will do his best to clear this up.
William did also say that they have updated their webpage. As for those of us
waiting on conversion manuals, William told me they are making a updates to
them and would ship them out as soon as they are done. If you also ordered the
CH601 installation manual along with the conversion manual, they usually ship
them together, so hold tight and wait a bit longer please....they ARE coming
soon!
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin airfoil |
I have heard of others doing this, one I believe to be quite knowledgeable . But
I just can not see how you can get any lift from this. There is no bottom of
the airfoil.
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