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1. 08:49 AM - Lift sling for the CH-701 (Carl)
2. 09:10 AM - Motivation for the Weary (cookwithgas)
3. 10:43 AM - Rebuilding files (Bill Naumuk)
4. 10:49 AM - Electrical wires from engine (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
5. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Cabin airfoilRe: Cabin airfoil (paul baker)
6. 11:42 AM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (LarryMcFarland)
7. 11:47 AM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (ashontz)
8. 11:50 AM - Re: Lift sling for the CH-701 (Les Goldner)
9. 11:52 AM - Re: William Wynne (ashontz)
10. 12:09 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (cookwithgas)
11. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Cabin airfoil ()
12. 12:21 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (Bill Naumuk)
13. 12:30 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Jaybannist@cs.com)
14. 12:45 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Terry Phillips)
15. 12:45 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Jim Hoak)
16. 12:47 PM - Re: Rebuilding files (Carlos Sa)
17. 01:01 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Bryan Martin)
18. 04:07 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (kmccune)
19. 04:44 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Tim Juhl)
20. 04:55 PM - XL - Longeron rivet size (Tim Juhl)
21. 05:42 PM - Re: Rebuilding files (Bill Naumuk)
22. 05:48 PM - Re: XL - Longeron rivet size (Brad Cohen)
23. 06:30 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (cookwithgas)
24. 06:37 PM - Re: Rotary engines for all Zenith Aircraft (Ron Lendon)
25. 06:43 PM - Re: Electrical wires from engine (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
26. 06:43 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (jhines)
27. 06:56 PM - Re: Cabib airfoil (on the 701) (John M. Goodings)
28. 07:14 PM - test flight (THOMAS SMALL)
29. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: Electrical wires from engine (Terry Phillips)
30. 07:48 PM - fuel system part F964-6 (chris Sinfield)
31. 08:11 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (stepinwolf)
32. 08:31 PM - Re: Motivation for the Weary (jhines)
33. 09:34 PM - Fw: CorvAircraft>140 crankshaft (Aerolitellc@aol.com)
34. 11:39 PM - Re: fuel system part F964-6 (Bryan Martin)
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| Subject: | Lift sling for the CH-701 |
I would like to use a sling to lift my a/c to removal and inspect the
main gear spring. I have seen slings for other high wing a/c that attach
to the fuselage wing attach point and they look very functional.
Has anyone done this? Has Chris H approved lifting the 701 this way? Any
help appreciated. Please reply on this list.
Carl
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| Subject: | Motivation for the Weary |
If you are sitting at your computer this morning wondering if it is too cold to
go out into the garage and start cutting, drilling, de-burring and riveting,
here's a short video I took yesterday of N5SL on her third flight of testing.
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/January_26_testflight.wmv
Warning - it's a large file.
Ron Gawer was the test pilot. It's got 7 hours flying on the hobbs since I got
the pink slip from the FAA.
Happy building (and flying),
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
Wahoo, Nebraska
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| Subject: | Rebuilding files |
All-
Had a runaway DVD drive that wrote 0s to my hard drive on Christmas
day. Lost some of my "Keeper" files (Lister ideas that I was going to
incorporate in my project when the time came).
I'm currently installing major systems and would appreciate the
following information-
Thomas Jefferson Small- pictures of your ELT installation.
Klaus (I can't remember your last name, but you're a retired
computer professor)- link to your site re: C-section to fuse fillets.
Any XL builder- a list of the brake fitting hardware and supplied
tubing length, so I have an idea of what to order from ACS.
Incidentally, WW must have made a New Year's resolution to answer
his e-mail. Many thanks to WW for easing the uncertainty. In the long
run, better communication will be of great benefit. Realtime builder
reports of the parts they need at their stage of building will give him
a better grip on inventory prioritization.
Thanks, people.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
HDS Fuse/Corvair
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| Subject: | Electrical wires from engine |
How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin through
the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp sealant around
the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and sealant? Jerry of Ga.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin airfoilRe: Cabin airfoil |
actually!!! After 60 years of flying, the thing that keeps an airplane
in the air is MONEY. If God had entended man to
fly he would have given him more money. Enjoy flying...
paul baker
601hd
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
Jerry,
Use your step drill and size it for a rubber grommet that will take the
bundle of wires going thru. If you plan your wiring, you should only
need one on either side of
the firewall.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/electrical/full/electricgroundbus.gif
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Jeyoung65@aol.com wrote:
> How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin
> through the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp
> sealant around the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and
> sealant? Jerry of Ga.
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
Great looking airplane. It just looks like a real plane instead of a homebuilt
between you're professionalism and the design. Love it! Can't wait to finish mine.
When you completed the wings and started the fuselage, did you move into a more
productive mode due to it finally starting to look like something? I'm anticipating
that.
cookwithgas wrote:
> If you are sitting at your computer this morning wondering if it is too cold
to go out into the garage and start cutting, drilling, de-burring and riveting,
here's a short video I took yesterday of N5SL on her third flight of testing.
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/January_26_testflight.wmv
> Warning - it's a large file.
>
> Ron Gawer was the test pilot. It's got 7 hours flying on the hobbs since I got
the pink slip from the FAA.
>
> Happy building (and flying),
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> Wahoo, Nebraska
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CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Lift sling for the CH-701 |
Carl,
Paul Reinders, a very experienced (35,000 hour) Alaskan pilot who has a 701
ski/float plane, attached tangs to the plane for picking it up to change
skis and floats. The tangs need to be placed facing upward and running
parallel with the air flow on both forward wing root attachment points at
the place where the wing is bolted to the fus.
My 701 does not have any main gear spring (although the gear probably has
some spring in it). Does your 701 have some new or specially designed gear?
Regards,
Les
_____
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:11 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Lift sling for the CH-701
I would like to use a sling to lift my a/c to removal and inspect the main
gear spring. I have seen slings for other high wing a/c that attach to the
fuselage wing attach point and they look very functional.
Has anyone done this? Has Chris H approved lifting the 701 this way? Any
help appreciated. Please reply on this list.
Carl
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| Subject: | Re: William Wynne |
I don't know why anyone would come down on him. I've been reading his articles
for years, he's just a small shop with a lot of demand. Personally, if I get nothing
other than info from him and do all the work myself based on his how to
manual that'll be enough for me. You can expcet only so much from one man or
a small shop with a lot of customers.
[quote="garythomas8708(at)yahoo.c"]All,
This may not be the right forum for this, but I feel compelled to comment on
the recent speculation regarding William Wynne and people's expectations for customer
service.
Clearly we are not dealing with Walmart here - he doesn't have a computerised
inventory system using just-in-time algorithms. This is just one man trying
to research improvements to the application (and he has made many, including multiple
iterations of the oil system), build and outsource components, write educational
manuals, answer the phone and provide advice. On top of that he built
a 601XL airplane and gave rides in it (I was one lucky recipient when I first
moved down to Florida).
As this stage of his business (where his products continue to evolve), the occasional
hiccup is to be expected. Like many others, I have had to wait for parts.
I think the solution is to prepare well ahead of time and work on the
engine in parallel with the airframe. There are plenty of head-scratching moments
in putting together an engine, and the more time you allow yourself, the
less time for anxiety over shipments.
I will grant one minor criticism - he is sometimes can't be reached and is reluctant
to give bad news about delays; this only adds to the anxiety of those
more used to running down to walmart to pick up items at short notice. For the
solution, see prior paragraph. The flip side to this is his generosity with
time when you do reach him. He is full of encouragement and helpful advice for
what after all is a pretty challenging endeavor.
Given his obvious pride in driving old trucks, he is not doing this to get rich.
So when he sells his plane, I see that less as a sign of problems than as
a sign that he intends to get inventories built up to satisfy what appears to
be a growing number of customers.
Obviously we're all grown-ups and can make our own choices. We're also all smart
enough to see through the idle speculation and misinformation to get at the
real gems of insight on this forum. My advice - talk to someone who's already
done it.
Best wishes to all
Gary Thomas 601XL / Corvair, 95% done, 95% still to go
> [b]
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
ashontz wrote:
>
> When you completed the wings and started the fuselage, did you move into a more
productive mode due to it finally starting to look like something?
Absolutely. The only slow time was building the second wing since I had already
done that and was really ready to start on the fuselage. It was fun the whole
time though.
Do a little each day even if it's just cleaning up a little.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin airfoil |
uh uh. Lift is provided by Washington, Franklin, Jackson, Grant, et al.
Everything else is merely the means by which they are applied.
Paul Rodriguez
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Berle<mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Cabin airfoil
<victorbravo@sbcglobal.net<mailto:victorbravo@sbcglobal.net>>
Jaybannist@cs.com<mailto:Jaybannist@cs.com> wrote:
> In fact, most of the lift is provided by Newton, pushing on the
bottom surface of the wing (With enough power, you can fly a barn door).
This speaks very loudly about the "expertise" of some of our most
prolific posters, right?
Louder than you think :)
The real expert aerodynamicists out there have explained that the
circulation flow pattern around the airfoil, and the amount of air
being
displaced downward, contributes far more than the Bernoulli effect or
the "planing" effect you mention. I am not an expert on the
circulation
theory but I am aware that all of the real, employed, expert level
aerodynamics people 100% believe in it.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Zenith-List>
http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
on>
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
Scott-
I was thinking about having someone do my initial flight testing, but
heard there's a bureaucratic hangup.
Thoughts?
Bill
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "cookwithgas" <cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:05 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Motivation for the Weary
>
> If you are sitting at your computer this morning wondering if it is too
> cold to go out into the garage and start cutting, drilling, de-burring and
> riveting, here's a short video I took yesterday of N5SL on her third
> flight of testing.
>
> http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Videos/January_26_testflight.wmv
> Warning - it's a large file.
>
> Ron Gawer was the test pilot. It's got 7 hours flying on the hobbs since
> I got the pink slip from the FAA.
>
> Happy building (and flying),
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> Wahoo, Nebraska
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=160661#160661
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Electrical wires from engine |
Jerry,
I used rubber grommets, steel grommet covers and RTV sealant for the small wires.
I think I have three firewall penetrations for that. I used the recommended
thru-firewall connectors for the high tension wiring and battery to starter
cables.
Jay in Dallas 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser"
Jeyoung65@aol.com wrote:
>How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin through
>the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp sealant around
>the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and sealant? Jerry of Ga.
>
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.
>http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
I am planning to use the stainless steel penetration kits sold by
http://www.epm-avcorp.com/tubeseal.html
I think it is very important to isolate the engine compartment from the
passenger compartment. There has been a lot of discussion on the RV Forums
on this subject. See, e.g.,
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=283
Having said that, unless one is going to protect the steering rod
penetrations of the firewall in the Zenith designs to a similar extent, why
worry about the electrical line penetrations? I haven't decided what to do
about the steering rods. All the recent discussion about tail-draggers has
made me reconsider that option.
Terry
At 11:03 AM 1/27/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin
>through the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp
>sealant around the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and sealant?
>Jerry of Ga.
>
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
Jerry,
I used rubber grommets and a dab of sealant too where wires pass through
the firewall. Twelve years and 570 hours with no problems yet. I think
you need more than just sealant. Connectors are great but can be
expensive.
do not archive
Jim Hoak
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeyoung65@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Electrical wires from engine
How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin
through the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp
sealant around the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and
sealant? Jerry of Ga.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding files |
Klaus' web site:
http://www.utdallas.edu/~klaus/Airplane/airplane.html
Cheers
Carlos
On 27/01/2008, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>
> All-
> Had a runaway DVD drive that wrote 0s to my hard drive on Christmas
> day. Lost some of my "Keeper" files (Lister ideas that I was going to
> incorporate in my project when the time came).
> I'm currently installing major systems and would appreciate the
> following information-
> Thomas Jefferson Small- pictures of your ELT installation.
> Klaus (I can't remember your last name, but you're a retired computer
> professor)- link to your site re: C-section to fuse fillets.
> Any XL builder- a list of the brake fitting hardware and supplied
> tubing length, so I have an idea of what to order from ACS.
> Incidentally, WW must have made a New Year's resolution to answer his
> e-mail. Many thanks to WW for easing the uncertainty. In the long run,
> better communication will be of great benefit. Realtime builder reports of
> the parts they need at their stage of building will give him a better grip
> on inventory prioritization.
> Thanks, people.
> do not archive
> Bill Naumuk
> Townville, Pa.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
I used a 12 pin Molex connector. I mounted the female side in the
firewall as a bulkhead connector. The male part plugs into this from
the cabin side of the firewall. On the engine side of the firewall, I
riveted a steel shell around the Molex connector and filled it up with
high temp RTV to make a fire resistant seal. I got the connectors from
Radio Shack, one of the few connectors they sell that I found
acceptable for use in my airplane.
For the main battery cable, I bought a pass though connector from
Jeg's: http://tinyurl.com/2qclou
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Jeyoung65@aol.com wrote:
> How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin
> through the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp
> sealant around the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and
> sealant? Jerry of Ga.
>
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
If you use Molex connectors be sure to check that the male/female pin sizes are
correct. I have run into a number of problems at work were the connection was
loose and caused PLC input to "flash like a Christmas tree" when a little vibration
occurred. But pay attention they are wonderful connections.
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Kevin
N701DZ Reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
Feel free to flame the following suggestion but after looking at the kit from epm-avcorp
I got an idea. How about penetrating the firewall with a 1 inch diameter
round aluminum flange riveted in place with the flange in the cabin ($6.70
- PN 10350-4) then slipping a section of 1 inch ID firesleeve over it ($10.90
/ foot - PN AE102-16). Part numbers are from AC Spruce.
Pass the bundle of wires thru the firesleeve / flange and pack the interior of the fire sleeve with commonly available firestopping caulk (http://www.touch-n-seal.com/firestop.htm). A hose clamp over the flange/firesleeve and another around the mouth of the firesleeve alone should give you some protection.
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on fuselage
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| Subject: | XL - Longeron rivet size |
Maybe I missed it on the drawings but I can't find info on the size rivets to use
to attach the rear fuselage side skins to the lower longeron. Am I correct
to assume that the rivets used on the side mimic those used to attach the bottom
skin to the longerons? That would mean A4's up to the splice and then A5's
therafter.
Thanks!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding files |
Thanks, Carlos.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos Sa
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rebuilding files
Klaus' web site:
http://www.utdallas.edu/~klaus/Airplane/airplane.html
Cheers
Carlos
On 27/01/2008, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
All-
Had a runaway DVD drive that wrote 0s to my hard drive on
Christmas day. Lost some of my "Keeper" files (Lister ideas that I was
going to incorporate in my project when the time came).
I'm currently installing major systems and would appreciate the
following information-
Thomas Jefferson Small- pictures of your ELT installation.
Klaus (I can't remember your last name, but you're a retired
computer professor)- link to your site re: C-section to fuse fillets.
Any XL builder- a list of the brake fitting hardware and
supplied tubing length, so I have an idea of what to order from ACS.
Incidentally, WW must have made a New Year's resolution to
answer his e-mail. Many thanks to WW for easing the uncertainty. In the
long run, better communication will be of great benefit. Realtime
builder reports of the parts they need at their stage of building will
give him a better grip on inventory prioritization.
Thanks, people.
do not archive
Bill Naumuk
Townville, Pa.
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| Subject: | XL - Longeron rivet size |
Tim,
My plans dated 12/04 show
6B2-3 ext longerons A5, p40
6B2-1 rear longerons A4 p40
6B2-2 Longeron doubler 10 rivets, A5
(top drawing, middle of the page
Brad Cohen
XL/TD, slow-build kit
>From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: XL - Longeron rivet size
>Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:50:39 -0800
>
>
>Maybe I missed it on the drawings but I can't find info on the size rivets
>to use to attach the rear fuselage side skins to the lower longeron. Am I
>correct to assume that the rivets used on the side mimic those used to
>attach the bottom skin to the longerons? That would mean A4's up to the
>splice and then A5's therafter.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Tim
>
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
Bill - no hangups. My FAA inspector knew I was not going to fly off my 40 hours.
I've had a couple of guys step forward and they are working on it one weekend
at a time.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rotary engines for all Zenith Aircraft |
Do you have any links of flying examples? Satisfied customers etc...
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Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
Thanks to all who responded to my question. Sounds like some real good
suggestions. No sure how I will go but will use some kind of sealant. Again THANKS
Jerry of Ga.
In a message dated 1/27/2008 4:03:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bryanmmartin@comcast.net writes:
I used a 12 pin Molex connector. I mounted the female side in the firewall
as a bulkhead connector. The male part plugs into this from the cabin side of
the firewall. On the engine side of the firewall, I riveted a steel shell
around the Molex connector and filled it up with high temp RTV to make a fire
resistant seal. I got the connectors from Radio Shack, one of the few
connectors they sell that I found acceptable for use in my airplane.
For the main battery cable, I bought a pass though connector from Jeg's:
_http://tinyurl.com/2qclou_ (http://tinyurl.com/2qclou)
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:03 AM, _Jeyoung65@aol.com_ (mailto:Jeyoung65@aol.com)
wrote:
How are you routing the electrical wire from the engine to the cabin through
the firewall? Do you use a connector are just add high temp sealant around
the wires. What about using a 90 degree elbow and sealant? Jerry of Ga.
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
Scott,
Thanks for doing your part to motivate us. I just cant seem to get out of the
funk I am in. I started on my rib forming blocks before Christmas and Im still
not done. Things keep getting in the way. First of all i work too much. I
had a tree limb go right through my roof a few weeks ago. Then my old dog died
last week. Im in this funk and I just cant get motivated.
I actually got out and did a little work today, but not much. If anyone out there
ever checks my website, they may have given up on me. Well, I guess I need
to just snap out of it and get to work. Sorry for bringing everyone down.
John Hines
www.johnsplane.com
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| Subject: | Re: Cabib airfoil (on the 701) |
At the risk of telling people something they already know, I heard Chris
Heintz say why he had designed the 701 airfoil with the gap over the
cabin. In a high wing aircraft like a Cessna, he objected to the fact
that, for example, in turning left, the left wing goes down, and the pilot
cannot see the sky into which he is turning; Chris regards that as
dangerous. He told an amusing story at our RAA Canada meeting. When he
first came to Canada, he was being checked out in a Cessna in preparation
for his Canadian pilot's licence flight test. In order to see where he
was going when turning, he skidded the aircraft around the corners using
rudder with absolutely minimal bank angle. The instructor told him that
he was a very proficient pilot, but that he would not pass his Canadian
flight test!
John Goodings (a 601, not a 701, pilot!)
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do not archive
I know there are circumstances that prevent some builders from doing the
first flight, but the best advice received from ZAC came from Roger who told
me to never allow anyone else to make the first flight. Boy was he correct.
I'll not make crass comparisons with other "firsts," but you will never
forget this one experience - you, and you alone, have created magic.
jeff
> Bill - no hangups. My FAA inspector knew I was not going to fly off my 40
> hours. I've had a couple of guys step forward and they are working on it
> one weekend at a time.
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical wires from engine |
Hi Tim
The problem with the aluminum flange is that it melts at the temperature of
a hydrocarbon fire. When I was a kid working in the hay fields in the
Little Laramie Valley, a diesel fuel tank truck caught fire at one of the
oil wells in the neighborhood. The aluminum from the tank was left as
frozen puddles on the ground. It must have made a big impression on me
since I remember it (vividly) 50 years later.
An aluminum flange would be partially protected by the fire sleeve. It
might or might not melt. I don't have any personal experience with an
engine fire in an airplane, thank God. But I think I'll buy a couple of the
EPM penetrators for my 601 just for my own comfort. And, there is still the
question of what to do about the steering rod pass thorough. Each builder
must decide how to handle these items. Obviously, a very knowledgeable
aeronautical engineer, Chris Heintz, was not very worried about the
steering rod holes in the fire wall.
I don't think there is a "right" answer for everyone. Each builder must
decide what is their right answer. That's the beauty of experimental aircraft.
Terry
At 04:39 PM 1/27/2008 -0800, you wrote:
>Feel free to flame the following suggestion but after looking at the kit
>from epm-avcorp I got an idea. How about penetrating the firewall with a
>1 inch diameter round aluminum flange riveted in place with the flange in
>the cabin ($6.70 - PN 10350-4) then slipping a section of 1 inch ID
>firesleeve over it ($10.90 / foot - PN AE102-16). Part numbers are from
>AC Spruce.
>
>Pass the bundle of wires thru the firesleeve / flange and pack the
>interior of the fire sleeve with commonly available firestopping caulk
>(http://www.touch-n-seal.com/firestop.htm). A hose clamp over the
>flange/firesleeve and another around the mouth of the firesleeve alone
>should give you some protection.
>
>Tim
Terry Phillips
ttp44~at~rkymtn.net
Corvallis MT
601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail is finished; working on the wings
http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/
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| Subject: | fuel system part F964-6 |
OK Gang
I have 2 small brass "Tee" fuel bits left over PN F964-6.
I just hate it when you finish something and have left over bits. or the life of
me I can't see on the plans where they go but I do know then need to be somewhere
..
Any Ideas?
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
jhines wrote:
> Scott,
>
> I had a tree limb go right through my roof a few weeks ago. Then my old dog
died last week. Im in this funk and I just cant get motivated.
>
> Sorry for bringing everyone down.
>
> John Hines
> www.johnsplane.com
John,
So sorry to hear about your loss. Loosing part of ones a family is never a fun
thing to have happen to us, especially a dog that we have loved. You will heal,
but it hurts, and it takes a very long time.
I wish you well
Bob the 701 scratch
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| Subject: | Re: Motivation for the Weary |
Well, I think I just cured funk. I went back a read my post from earlier. WHAT
A WHINER! It's like having a friend record you while you are complaining and
then playing it back for you. What a wuss!
I'm cured!
John
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| Subject: | Re: fuel system part F964-6 |
The fuel system kit is probably the same for whatever engine is used.
Some engines have two carburetors and will need a Tee to split up the
flow, some engines have a single carb. Some engines have a mechanical
pump and some don't. The early kits came with a separate valve for
each tank and a Tee feeding into the gascolator. Some fuel system
setups will need more fittings than others.
> >
>
> OK Gang
> I have 2 small brass "Tee" fuel bits left over PN F964-6.
>
> I just hate it when you finish something and have left over bits. or
> the life of me I can't see on the plans where they go but I do know
> then need to be somewhere ..
> Any Ideas?
> Chris
>
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