---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/03/08: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:22 AM - Re: prepunched wing skins on XL (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 2. 04:28 AM - CH 750 siting with pics (kmccune) 3. 05:48 AM - Re: So-long and fairwell (n801bh@netzero.com) 4. 07:15 AM - Re: So-long and fairwell (steve) 5. 07:37 AM - Searching for the cure, Ethanol (Bob) 6. 08:09 AM - Re: EXPERIMENTAL (LarryMcFarland) 7. 08:38 AM - Re: prepunched wing skins on XL (Bill Naumuk) 8. 09:24 AM - Re: Searching for the cure, Ethanol (Bryan Martin) 9. 10:11 AM - ethanol in auto gas (Joe Scheibinger) 10. 10:36 AM - Re: EXPERIMENTAL (Les Goldner) 11. 10:37 AM - Re: Address (Paul Mulwitz) 12. 10:48 AM - Re: 115mm flanging die needed (Larry Winger) 13. 11:42 AM - Re:Re:ethanol in auto gas (MaxNr@aol.com) 14. 02:12 PM - Re: Address (Bill Naumuk) 15. 02:44 PM - Re: 115mm flanging die needed (Terry Phillips) 16. 03:26 PM - Tight Fit Tools (Stanley Challgren) 17. 04:08 PM - Re: Tight Fit Tools (n801bh@netzero.com) 18. 05:10 PM - corvair core available (David Downey) 19. 05:13 PM - Re: (CH-701) Anyone else have edge distance issues with 7F3-3SP? (jf3sb) 20. 06:05 PM - Re: 115mm flanging die needed (Randy L. Thwing) 21. 06:37 PM - Re: 115mm flanging die needed (Randy L. Thwing) 22. 09:08 PM - Exact measurement (Darrell Haas) 23. 09:41 PM - Re: Exact measurement (Jugle) 24. 10:55 PM - Re: CH 750 siting with pics (John Marzulli) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:44 AM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: prepunched wing skins on XL No mine fit great . You might check to be sure you have the proper distance from the first rivet line as in the plans and also be sure your ribs are square with the spar. It sounds like you have the skin too far inboard and because they taper you are coming up long if that makes sense. If you need anymore help drop me a e mail off list. Hope this helps Jeff **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:51 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: CH 750 siting with pics From: "kmccune" While reading the daily CorvAircraft digest I found the following link. Graciously posted by a Mr Hanson: http://picasaweb.google.com/nosky2high/ZenithAircraftCompanyVisit -------- Kevin N701DZ Reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162153#162153 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:30 AM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: So-long and fairwell Geez,, I just watched the Barret-Jackson auction and if you think planes are expensive hold onto your wallet with classic cars. : ).... With th at said I hope all your future endeavors are good ones.. be safe and do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Dave Thompson" wrote: Hi people! I have been a member of this group for over three years now. I have enjo yed reading the digest every day! A few months ago, I realized that my c urrent financial responsibilities will not allow me to build and maintai n an aircraft at this time in my life. I have packed away my books, plan s and Corvair engine. The rudder still hangs in my shop. Perhaps someday , when the kids move out I=92ll pull them out again and actually purchas e a kit, but for now, sadly, I have moved on to another project. I just purchased a =93new=94 1963 Corvair convertible turbo Spyder. I wi ll be joining the local Corvair club and hope to meet new friends as goo d as you all have been. My best to you all! Keep on drillin=92 and pullin=92. Dave Thompson Dave.thompson@verizon.net Westminster, California Do not archive ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== === _____________________________________________________________ Protect your eyes. Click here for free information on eye care. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tNsIVQxwDPYHwyJ3pZ cH0FqZE1jLs5mShatSNbAuz2jL9KS/ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:05 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: So-long and fairwell Aviators NEVER quit. Years ago, we fellow (poor) student pilots went without 50 cent lunches just to have the eight dollars it took for that one hour flight every two weeks. Even at eight bucks per hour it was expensive. I made $80 a week working in a lumber yard. Paid rent, raised one child and supported my housewife. My point is: if you really want it, you will find a way. Build one small part at a time.... Your rudder is done. Next build a rib..... Next week build another rib. SW ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Thompson To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 10:16 PM Subject: Zenith-List: So-long and fairwell Hi people! I have been a member of this group for over three years now. I have enjoyed reading the digest every day! A few months ago, I realized that my current financial responsibilities will not allow me to build and maintain an aircraft at this time in my life. I have packed away my books, plans and Corvair engine. The rudder still hangs in my shop. Perhaps someday, when the kids move out I'll pull them out again and actually purchase a kit, but for now, sadly, I have moved on to another project. I just purchased a "new" 1963 Corvair convertible turbo Spyder. I will be joining the local Corvair club and hope to meet new friends as good as you all have been. My best to you all! Keep on drillin' and pullin'. Dave Thompson Dave.thompson@verizon.net Westminster, California Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:42 AM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Zenith-List: Searching for the cure, Ethanol There have many excellent messages about the perils and use of Ethanol in our aircraft but so far, all we've talked about is the problems. I don't see Ethanol going away, the problem is just going to get worse. As the owner of both a certified and experimental planes, I would like some advi ce from the experts as to how we can cope with it. The Ellison carb seems to be one solution for carbonation. Would a fuel pump and vapor return lines take care of vapor lock? One gentleman sugge sts a diesel engine is the solution. Not too many options here. Gaskets and o-rings of different materials should be easy to solve. Reduction in pow er and range is simple, pilot education. For certified aircraft, STC's wil l be expensive but a must. FAA may have to rethink some of their regs to h elp solve this but I'll bet the experimental society will get their first. Who has the answers? Bob, Wichita ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:36 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EXPERIMENTAL Hi Steve, I soundproofed my 601 cabin last summer and it was necessary to put "EXPERIMENTAL" in vinyl, centered on the top skin, just inside the canopy. It looks nice and is very readable when entering the aircraft via steps. http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezrearlft.gif Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com steve wrote: > Where are you placing the required "EXPERIMENTAL" on your 601 ? I > plan on the outside skin behind the pilot/passenger...inside the > canopy.... > > Steve W ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:03 AM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: prepunched wing skins on XL There's a simple solution. Compare the skins with the prints. If they match within 2mm, your problem lies elsewhere. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Aerolitellc@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 6:17 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: prepunched wing skins on XL No mine fit great . You might check to be sure you have the proper distance from the first rivet line as in the plans and also be sure your ribs are square with the spar. It sounds like you have the skin too far inboard and because they taper you are coming up long if that makes sense. If you need anymore help drop me a e mail off list. Hope this helps Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:47 AM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Searching for the cure, Ethanol The EAA and AOPA keep pushing state legislatures to exempt premium gasoline from the laws requiring ethanol so that at least some gasoline will be available for use in applications that won't tolerate alcohol. This effort is helped by the fact that airplanes aren't the only application where alcohol can't be used. Many types of watercraft can't use alcohol contaminated gas either due to their fiberglass fuel tanks and other parts of the fuel system that won't tolerate alcohol. A lot of older lawn and garden equipment and farm implements weren't designed for alcohol either. We should have those industries on our side as well. Then there's the fact that very few people use premium gas in their cars, which should help minimize any objections to this idea. If the watercraft industry can convince the governments to exempt marine gasoline, you might be able to get your aircraft fuel from the local marina. If these efforts fail, the only alternative might be to burn avgas and possibly use a lead scavenger. This might be the issue that drives a demand for the new 82UL avgas. The EAA spent a great deal of effort pushing for the creation of 82UL but it doesn't seem to be available anywhere yet. If you want to burn alcohol fuel in your airplane, design the thing to run on E85 and use that. Otherwise, make an effort to find and use straight gasoline. Mixing small amounts of alcohol in gasoline is just a bad idea. On Feb 3, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Bob wrote: > There have many excellent messages about the perils and use of > Ethanol in our aircraft but so far, all we've talked about is the > problems. I don't see Ethanol going away, the problem is just going > to get worse. As the owner of both a certified and experimental > planes, I would like some advice from the experts as to how we can > cope with it. > > The Ellison carb seems to be one solution for carbonation. Would a > fuel pump and vapor return lines take care of vapor lock? One > gentleman suggests a diesel engine is the solution. Not too many > options here. Gaskets and o-rings of different materials should be > easy to solve. Reduction in power and range is simple, pilot > education. For certified aircraft, STC's will be expensive but a > must. FAA may have to rethink some of their regs to help solve this > but I'll bet the experimental society will get their first. > > Who has the answers? > > Bob, Wichita > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:58 AM PST US From: "Joe Scheibinger" Subject: Zenith-List: ethanol in auto gas If anyone wants some detailed information on what ethanol will do to a fuel system, and what ethanol is doing to the planet, rather than print it here, E-mail me off list and I will send you some information. In Wisconsin, ethanol has done over a million dollars worth of damage to cars in the Milwaukee area due to plugged up fuel injectors. Boats in Minnesota where ethanol is manditory have their fiberglass fuel tanks disolve over time leaking fuel into the keel. The Oshkosh ethanol plant has been sited for excess polution from the ethanol plant and fined. Ethanol producers can't say that their produce burned clean like they use to. It doesn't. Ethanol produces aldyhides when it burns and it turns out their cancerous! The largest saturation of aldyhides happends to be in Brazil! Unfortunately, we were all lied to by the corn lobby and our government has let the genie out of the bottle! EAA is fighting hard to stop the ethanol mandates. One of the Zenith competitors decided to take a big chunk of money from the ethanol people and design a "green" airplane, and slapped EAA right in the face with it at the last airshow. Here in Wisconsin, the cost of milk has doubled, most foods at the grocery store have increased dramaticly, even Budweiser is having trouble finding hopps because of the corn craze. Ethanol in Wisconsin is hurting the poor who can't afford the price increases. Has anyone noticed our politicians are not mentioning corn ethanol when talking about renewable resources? Even National Geographic didn't have much good to say about corn ethanol. In Wisconsin, our legislative leaders voted down the law to make ethanol manditory, but I'm sure it will come up again. The corn lobby is strong. But here in Wisconsin, the pumps must be marked if ethanol is sold. We can still pick our gas stations. They tried to remove that law but the EAA stepped in and said no. By the way, Yamaha snowmobiles have found a way to use ethanol. If you know there is ethanol in the fuel, you can change a wire under the engine cover and the engine will run fine! It fools the little computer and causes the engine to run full rich to keep it cool! How about that! Stay away from this stuff. Joe ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:35 AM PST US From: "Les Goldner" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: EXPERIMENTAL On my 701, I put the "Experimental" decal on the floor close to the seat, where it would not get stepped on. Les > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > LarryMcFarland > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:04 AM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: EXPERIMENTAL > > --> > > Hi Steve, > I soundproofed my 601 cabin last summer and it was necessary > to put "EXPERIMENTAL" in vinyl, centered on the top skin, > just inside the canopy. > It looks nice and is very readable when entering the aircraft > via steps. > http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezrearlft.gif > > Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com > > steve wrote: > > Where are you placing the required "EXPERIMENTAL" on your > 601 ? I > > plan on the outside skin behind the pilot/passenger...inside the > > canopy.... > > > > Steve W > > > > Photoshare, and much much more: > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:09 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Address I've always reached Shirley at info@zenithair.com Paul Xl fuselage At 06:00 PM 1/30/2008, you wrote: > > Does anyone have Shirley's Zenith e-mail address? ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:45 AM PST US From: "Larry Winger" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed Hi Randy, I haven't seen or heard much from you recently on the Zenith list. I hope you are doing well. Unless I mess up a part (which could always happen!), I think I'm done using your flanging dies. They have been a great help, and worked so well. Thanks for the extended use. I'll be glad to ship them back to you, or I can also hold on to them until another builder contacts you for their use. Then I could ship them direct, saving you the postage. It is your call. Just let me know. Thank you, again. Larry Winger On Jul 26, 2007 11:24 AM, Randy L. Thwing wrote: > Hey Larry: > > If you don't get a better offer, my "iron" dies are available. They are > currently in the "custody" of Builder John Bolding in Texas who is > finished > with them and awaiting shipping instructions. It is the three die set > that > needs to stay together, but it is my understanding that the three dies > will > fit in a postal flat rate box and ship for under ten bucks. > > Let me know if you want them. > > Best Regards, > > Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive > > > Subject: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed > > > > > > Thanks to a good building buddy, I already have two sets of flanging > dies > (65mm and 95mm). I'm missing the larger 115mm dies for my wing ribs. > > > > Is there anyone on the list with a 115mm set that I could use for a few > weeks? I'll be glad to pay shipping both ways. Thanks. > > > > Feel free to contact me off list. > > > > Do not archive. > > > > -------- > > Larry Winger > > Tustin, CA > > 601XL/Corvair from scratch > > Control surfaces and wing spars complete > > Making wing ribs > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:20 AM PST US From: MaxNr@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Re:Re:ethanol in auto gas Make an ethanol tester. Find a used olive jar. One of those skinny ones with a screw on cap. Put a mark about one inch from the bottom. Fill to the mark with water. Fill the rest with the fuel to be tested, screw cap on and shake. If the "water line" rises, it means that alcohol has combined with the water and the presence of alcohol is confirmed. You can also buy the same tester professionally made by Peterson Aviation ( www.autofuelstc.com ) for $15.00. Ethanol has no place in an airplane for all the reasons stated. Also ethanol is much more likely to vapor lock at altitudes above those altitudes used by ag planes. Stay with 100LL if in doubt and put the gas that fails the test into your pick up truck. Bob 601XL ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002548) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Address Paul and all- I reached Shirley through shirley@zenithair.com. When I tried info, I got Nick who said to contact her directly. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mulwitz" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Address > > I've always reached Shirley at info@zenithair.com > > Paul > Xl fuselage > > At 06:00 PM 1/30/2008, you wrote: >> > Does anyone have Shirley's Zenith e-mail address? > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:14 PM PST US From: Terry Phillips Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed Randy I could definitely use them for a week or so. I just need to make up two parts to mount my landing & taxi lights. I haven't designed the part yet, but each will have a lightening hole. I was about to make some wooden ones, but I would be happy to pay shipping to borrow yours. Terry At 10:43 AM 2/3/2008 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Randy, > >I haven't seen or heard much from you recently on the Zenith list. I hope >you are doing well. > >Unless I mess up a part (which could always happen!), I think I'm done >using your flanging dies. They have been a great help, and worked so >well. Thanks for the extended use. > >I'll be glad to ship them back to you, or I can also hold on to them until >another builder contacts you for their use. Then I could ship them >direct, saving you the postage. It is your call. > >Just let me know. > >Thank you, again. > >Larry Winger > > >On Jul 26, 2007 11:24 AM, Randy L. Thwing ><n4546v@mindspring.com> wrote: >Hey Larry: > >If you don't get a better offer, my "iron" dies are available. They are >currently in the "custody" of Builder John Bolding in Texas who is finished >with them and awaiting shipping instructions. It is the three die set that >needs to stay together, but it is my understanding that the three dies will >fit in a postal flat rate box and ship for under ten bucks. > >Let me know if you want them. > >Best Regards, > >Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive > > >Subject: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed > > > <larrywinger@gmail.com> > > > > Thanks to a good building buddy, I already have two sets of flanging dies >(65mm and 95mm). I'm missing the larger 115mm dies for my wing ribs. > > > > Is there anyone on the list with a 115mm set that I could use for a few >weeks? I'll be glad to pay shipping both ways. Thanks. > > > > Feel free to contact me off list. > > > > Do not archive. > > > > -------- > > Larry Winger > > Tustin, CA > > 601XL/Corvair from scratch > > Control surfaces and wing spars complete > > Making wing ribs > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List >http://www.matronics.com/contribution > Terry Phillips ttp44~at~rkymtn.net Corvallis MT 601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o.. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons are done; working on the wings http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:21 PM PST US From: Stanley Challgren Subject: Zenith-List: Tight Fit Tools List: I recently ordered a Tight Fit Drill Set from Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tight Fit Tools Customer service like that deserves mentioning. Thanks for sharing it.. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- Stanley Challgren wrote: List: I recently ordered a Tight Fit Drill Set from Subject: Zenith-List: corvair core available Hello; I am going to have to eliminate one of my Corvair cores. I do not want to make any money on it but I do want to recover the $200 I paid for it. I am in Zipcode 19438 in southeastern PA. The case is 1208RH and one of the heads with the tin off is 3878566 - the other head still is covered by the tin. The core includes a distributer and still has the exhaust logs. I do not know what the actual internal condition is as I never pulled the top cover or the jugs. If anyone is interested, contact me off line. I would like to sell it for pick up only - and I would really like to see it go into a 601XL since that was my plan before my life took a dump. (I have not totally given up - I am keeping my other core - for now, until I must sell it as well) Thanks. Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:44 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: (CH-701) Anyone else have edge distance issues with 7F3-3SP? From: "jf3sb" I had the the same problem. I ended up fabricating a new, somewhat larger gusset as you described. That whole general area of the build was a real pain-in-the-backside as I recall. Added a whole new layer on the aluminum scrap heap before I finally got through it. John Flavin Olathe, KS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162246#162246 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:34 PM PST US From: "Randy L. Thwing" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed do not archive Hey Larry: Glad the dies have worked ok with you. I think I remember you were building a 601, is that right? Was there a hole that required flanging in the 601 that my dies wouldn't work in? One that would require "trimming" of the dies to fit between flanges or something. Builder Larry Husky in Oregon advised me there is such a hole. Anyway, for the moment, hang onto the dies. there were some other builders looking for them, but I can't remember who they were. I don't require them at the moment. If one of my dies does require trimming to accomplish a hole, I need input and measurements so I or someone can do the alteration. I already trimmed the smallest die to do a hole in the 701, but I don't have the info for the 601. Anyway, please hold onto the dies for the time being until we receive further orders. Best regards, Randy, Las Vegas ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Winger To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed Hi Randy, I haven't seen or heard much from you recently on the Zenith list. I hope you are doing well. Unless I mess up a part (which could always happen!), I think I'm done using your flanging dies. They have been a great help, and worked so well. Thanks for the extended use. I'll be glad to ship them back to you, or I can also hold on to them until another builder contacts you for their use. Then I could ship them direct, saving you the postage. It is your call. Just let me know. Thank you, again. Larry Winger On Jul 26, 2007 11:24 AM, Randy L. Thwing wrote: Hey Larry: If you don't get a better offer, my "iron" dies are available. They are currently in the "custody" of Builder John Bolding in Texas who is finished with them and awaiting shipping instructions. It is the three die set that needs to stay together, but it is my understanding that the three dies will fit in a postal flat rate box and ship for under ten bucks. Let me know if you want them. Best Regards, Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas do not archive Subject: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed > > Thanks to a good building buddy, I already have two sets of flanging dies (65mm and 95mm). I'm missing the larger 115mm dies for my wing ribs. > > Is there anyone on the list with a 115mm set that I could use for a few weeks? I'll be glad to pay shipping both ways. Thanks. > > Feel free to contact me off list. > > Do not archive. > > -------- > Larry Winger > Tustin, CA > 601XL/Corvair from scratch > Control surfaces and wing spars complete > Making wing ribs ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:17 PM PST US From: "Randy L. Thwing" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed do not archive Hello Terry: I have sent you a photo of the dies in use by private message. Let me know if they look like something you can use. Regards, Randy, Las Vegas ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Phillips To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 115mm flanging die needed Randy I could definitely use them for a week or so. I just need to make up two parts to mount my landing & taxi lights. I haven't designed the part yet, but each will have a lightening hole. I was about to make some wooden ones, but I would be happy to pay shipping to borrow yours. Terry At 10:43 AM 2/3/2008 -0800, you wrote: Hi Randy, I haven't seen or heard much from you recently on the Zenith list. I hope you are doing well. Unless I mess up a part (which could always happen!), I think I'm done using your flanging dies. They have been a great help, and worked so well. Thanks for the extended use. I'll be glad to ship them back to you, or I can also hold on to them until another builder contacts you for their use. Then I could ship them direct, saving you the postage. It is your call. Just let me know. Thank you, again. Larry Winger ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:24 PM PST US From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: Zenith-List: Exact measurement Wow! When I started this I knew they wanted things to be exact. I was cutting out the template for the firewall and one of the measurement was 243.8. Now that's tough to do when the lead on my pencil measures .7 Darrell Haas 601 XL Fuse ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:28 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Exact measurement From: "Jugle" Hi Darrell, darrellhaas(at)gmail.com wrote: > Wow! When I started this I knew they wanted things to be exact. I was cutting out the template for the firewall and one of the measurement was 243.8. Now that's tough to do when the lead on my pencil measures .7 > I had the same question when I started plotting my form blocks. Here is what Nick from Zenith had to say: "Please refer to the CS for tolerances. Please understand that we had to increase the precision on some parts in the drawings to meet the diligent expectation of builder who have access to CAD software. It is not necessary that parts be cut on a CNC machine." The tightest tolerance is 0.5mm on wing rib heights, everything else is 1 to 2 mm as I recall. Glenn. -------- Glenn Andressen 601XL- just started. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162275#162275 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:15 PM PST US From: "John Marzulli" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH 750 siting with pics Thanks Kevin! What is interesting from the photos is that the seat backs are not supported by the baggage area like in the 701. In fact, it looks almost like there could be room for a baby seat back there. DO NOT ARCHIVE On Feb 3, 2008 4:23 AM, kmccune wrote: > > While reading the daily CorvAircraft digest I found the following link. > Graciously posted by a Mr Hanson: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/nosky2high/ZenithAircraftCompanyVisit > > -------- > Kevin > N701DZ Reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162153#162153 > > -- John Marzulli http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ "Flying a plane is no different than riding a bicycle... it's just a lot harder to put baseball cards in the spokes. -Airplane The Movie ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.