Zenith-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/19/08


Total Messages Posted: 29



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     1. 12:29 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (Bryan Martin)
     2. 03:27 AM - XL WING BOLTS?? (chris Sinfield)
     3. 04:55 AM - Re: FAA Kits (ashontz)
     4. 04:59 AM - Re: 601XL QB Flaps problems (ashontz)
     5. 05:12 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (n801bh@netzero.com)
     6. 06:25 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (Dave Austin)
     7. 06:37 AM - Re: XL WING BOLTS?? (LarryMcFarland)
     8. 06:53 AM - Re: 701 motor mount attach points on firewall (Jerry Hey)
     9. 07:20 AM - Re: Torque of 3/16 (Jim McBurney)
    10. 07:32 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    11. 07:45 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    12. 07:50 AM - Re: Best STOL 701 video ever!!! (ashontz)
    13. 08:06 AM - Re: XL WING BOLTS?? (Craig Payne)
    14. 08:21 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (Dave Austin)
    15. 08:36 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (Greg Finlay)
    16. 08:45 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    17. 09:02 AM - Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab (Bryan Martin)
    18. 09:12 AM - Re: XL WING BOLTS?? (Bryan Martin)
    19. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: Navaid Devices (Gary Gower)
    20. 09:40 AM - Re: Black crud in gascolator (Les Goldner)
    21. 10:11 AM - Re: KR2 / ea-81 / avionics / instruments / corvair parts for sale (ken smith)
    22. 10:45 AM - Re: KR2 / ea-81 / avionics / instruments / corvair parts for sale (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
    23. 11:52 AM - Re: Black crud in gascolator (Gig Giacona)
    24. 03:59 PM - Subaru owners (Ron Culver)
    25. 04:27 PM - Re: Navaid Devices (jackandval)
    26. 04:59 PM - Re: Subaru owners (Bryan Martin)
    27. 05:24 PM - Re: Subaru owners (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    28. 07:42 PM - Re: Subaru owners (Ron Culver)
    29. 08:31 PM - Re: 701 motor mount attach points on firewall (jf3sb)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:29:31 AM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    The stabilizer has little to do with the cruise flight attitude of the fuselage, it mainly has to do with the trim condition of the airplane. If you can trim out the elevator forces in cruise without excessive trim tab deflection, re-pitching the stabilizer won't help you. I re- pitched my stabilizer because I couldn't trim out the stick forces, not because the attitude of the airplane was wrong. I had to hold back pressure on the stick all the time to keep the plane from diving. The cruise flight attitude of the fuselage is controlled mainly by the angle of incidence of the main wing. Increasing the angle of incidence of the main wing will bring the nose of the fuselage down, but then you will also have to pitch the stabilizer up to get it back into trim. On Feb 19, 2008, at 1:26 AM, NYTerminat@aol.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > With all the talk of pitching the horizontal stabilizer lately I > have a quick question. I am doing my conditional inspection on my > 701 and decided to replace the front horizontal stabilizer brackets > to the .063 material. There were no cracks in my old ones but I > figured I might as well bite the bullet now while the weather is > keeping me from flying anyway. I have always felt that I was flying > in a nose high attitude while at cruise and that I do not see the > higher MPH that others see. I purchased a digital level and have > discovered that my horizontal stabilizer was about a half of a > degree low in the front (approx 3 mm). I plan on raising it one > degree so that I will be a half of a degree higher in the front > based on the A-E line. I am wondering if this is a good idea as I > believe this will get me flying in a better attitude at cruise and > pick up some speed. Any thoughts? > > Bob Spudis > N701Zx/ CH-701/ 912S/ 140hrs > > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 03:27:57 AM PST US
    Subject: XL WING BOLTS??
    From: "chris Sinfield" <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
    I am looking at the main wing bolts on 6-W-4 and it states that the main wing is held on by 12X AN5-15A bolts but then on page 6-S-3 it states Wing attachment bolts are 4 X AN5-16A and 8X AN5-15A. I guess I should put the right bolts in. What have others used? I have the latest set of plans. Chris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164983#164983


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    Time: 04:55:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FAA Kits
    From: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
    Once upon a time I fixed up an old corroding 18' aluminum boat my Dad wasn't using anymore, rebuilt the engine, installed the engine, ran some instrumentation wiring and battery wiring, fixed the trailer and rewired, and registered both with the DMV. I would never claim to have built the boat. LOL -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164990#164990


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    Time: 04:59:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 601XL QB Flaps problems
    From: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
    I suppose you could always make a new end rib for it. johnd(at)data-tech.com wrote: > Hi All, > > I did a test fit of wings on my 601 XL QB this weekend and have some > problems with the flaps. > > 1. The slot in the end rib of the flaps seems to have been cut at the > wrong location. According to my plans it should be 40mm from the top and > 80 mm from the side of the rib. On my flaps both slots are centered on > 90 mm from the edge of the rib. Of course with this the flap doesn't fit > well when engaged with the flap torque tube. I checked the dimensions on > the torque tube ends and they do match the plans. > > 2. It also seems like the flap hinge that fits into the wing skin was > drilled a bit too far to the inboard sides by approx 1/16 of an inch or > so. As a result the edge of the flap sticks out a bit beyond the edge of > the wing and it hits the flap torque tube. > > Anyone else have these problems with their QB flaps ? > I suspect the factory in Columbia just test fit the flaps without the > torque tubes and it fit fine then but it seems like both items are done > wrong ? > > Thanks, > John Davis > Burnsville, NC > 601 XL - QB - Jabiru 3300 -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164992#164992


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    Time: 05:12:30 AM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Hi Bob. I built my 801 as close to the specs as I could and measured my wing and horizontal stabilizer incidence multiple times. I am very confi dent I have my plane right and it to flys nose up. If I set it up in lev el cruise flight and add just a little bit of flaps the nose drops a co uple of degrees and it picks up about 4 mph. I don't know if I want to t ry to change the tail setting cause mine is all painted and it will be m ajor surgery to switch. Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com do not archive Hi all, With all the talk of pitching the horizontal stabilizer lately I have a quick question. I am doing my conditional inspection on my 701 and decided to replace the front horizontal stabilizer brackets to the . 063 material. There were no cracks in my old ones but I figured I might as well bite the bullet now while the weather is keeping me from flying anyway. I have always felt that I was flying in a nose high attitude whi le at cruise and that I do not see the higher MPH that others see. I pur chased a digital level and have discovered that my horizontal stabilizer was about a half of a degree low in the front (approx 3 mm). I plan on raising it one degree so that I will be a half of a degree higher in the front based on the A-E line. I am wondering if this is a good idea as I believe this will get me flying in a better attitude at cruise and pick up some speed. Any thoughts? Bob SpudisN701Zx/ CH-701/ 912S/ 140hrs In a message dated 2/11/2008 2:20:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, chicag cago2paris@msn.com> Zenith Aircraft indicated it was a "good idea." I can't imagine that th ey would say so without calling up Chris in France. So too, the math se ems to work out, but more importantly, people have done it and proved it . (Bryan, Scott and several others.) I personally would not go to 3 deg rees. The AMDs appear to be about 1 degree down, but they will not con firm that. The problem may be that some actually have the stab pitched slightly up, and that is in fact more dangerous than pitching it slight ly down with a nose heavy aircraft. Cessna has proven than tail down f orce on slow aircraft is an acceptable design. W&B on a 601 is critical . One must always start with an accurate weight and balance sheet (in other words, don't use bathroom scales.) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163526#163526 Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Li ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ==== _____________________________________________________________ Click here for legal help with your social security disability! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tZb0O4TNDgFY8bHNeT 0QpkA9drxKnDGrTVqIvwkVGLaGnfc/


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    Time: 06:25:08 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@primus.ca>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Bob, I'd be interested to know where your trim tab is positioned when at cruise with what I would describe as your "usual" loading of the aircraft? (conditions you fly under most of the time). It should be at a neutral position. If not, then adjust the hor. stab angle to give that condition. (Does mean you have to land without moving the elevator trim a few times). That produces least drag for that flying condition. I slotted the rear attachments to give me the adjustment, then replaced them with unslotted. Following from that, the trim tab needs to be large enough to be able to trim properly for approach and landing. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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    Time: 06:37:02 AM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: XL WING BOLTS??
    Chris, The AN5-16A (1/8th longer) bolts are probably to accommodate a thicker section, or compensate for the inability to get washers, nuts on and have the minimum three threads exposed above the nut. It's possible the shorter ones work as well, but you'll need to look at it first. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com do not archive chris Sinfield wrote: > > I am looking at the main wing bolts on 6-W-4 and it states that the main wing is held on by 12X AN5-15A bolts but then > > on page 6-S-3 it states Wing attachment bolts are 4 X AN5-16A and 8X AN5-15A. > > I guess I should put the right bolts in. What have others used? I have the latest set of plans. > > Chris. > > >


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    Time: 06:53:28 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Hey <jerry@jerryhey.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 motor mount attach points on firewall
    Thanks Art, Since I am not installing a Rotax I had not studied that page but most of the information I needed is there. The only thing not given is the vertical location of the thrust line. Jerry On Feb 19, 2008, at 12:09 AM, Art Olechowski wrote: > > > > Jerry, > Print 7-E-1 shows a total of 5 attachment points to the firewall, 1 > centered up top, 2 mid > outboard and 2 lower outboard. Assuming your installing a 912 could > you not just use the > dimensions used on 7-E-1 to locate the mid outboard attachment > points, the dimensions agree with > 7-F-7? > > Art > 701 scratch'in > do not archive > --- Jerry Hey <jerry@jerryhey.com> wrote: > >> >> I am having trouble finding the exact location of the two motor >> mount attachment points that are in the middle points vertically. >> The upper center point and the two lowest ones are clearly located on >> 7-F-7 but the middle ones are not. I am new to reading these plans >> so >> I am sure it is me. Jerry >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:20:18 AM PST US
    From: "Jim McBurney" <jmcburney@pobox.com>
    Subject: Re: Torque of 3/16
    Jim & Listers, Another suggestion to complement the 1/4" ratchet; invest in a set of "stubby" combination wrenches. Their short length makes proper torquing of the smaller bolts "feel" more natural. Blue skies and tailwinds Jim CH-801 DeltaHawk diesel Augusta GA 90% done, 90% left


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    Time: 07:32:45 AM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Ben, Mine reacts the same way. I didn't want to mess up my paint job either but I am using an artist brush to repaint the rivets, primed them last night, will see today how it comes out. Every once in a while I will hit a sweet spot and the nose will be a little lower in cruise and the plane will do about 6-7mph faster, I can usually find the spot if I bump the nose down in cruise but not all the time. The plane will fly hands off with the elevator trim in neutral but I know it can do better. Bob In a message dated 2/19/2008 8:14:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, n801bh@netzero.com writes: Hi Bob. I built my 801 as close to the specs as I could and measured my wing and horizontal stabilizer incidence multiple times. I am very confident I have my plane right and it to flys nose up. If I set it up in level cruise flight and add just a little bit of flaps the nose drops a couple of degrees and it picks up about 4 mph. I don't know if I want to try to change the tail setting cause mine is all painted and it will be major surgery to switch. Ben Haas N801BH _www.haaspowerair.com_ (http://www.haaspowerair.com/) do not archive **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)


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    Time: 07:45:31 AM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Dave, My trim is centered in cruise. I usually fly alone, not much change with a passenger. My CG is slightly aft but well within range. I like the idea of a slotted bracket to try different settings. If this setting that I am choosing doesn't work, I may try the slotted bracket to adjust the rear of the stabilizer. How much of a difference does one degree or 6 mm make? I know that the 601 and 701 are different but they would probably react similar. Bob In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:26:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, daveaustin2@primus.ca writes: Bob, I'd be interested to know where your trim tab is positioned when at cruise with what I would describe as your "usual" loading of the aircraft? (conditions you fly under most of the time). It should be at a neutral position. If not, then adjust the hor. stab angle to give that condition. (Does mean you have to land without moving the elevator trim a few times). That produces least drag for that flying condition. I slotted the rear attachments to give me the adjustment, then replaced them with unslotted. Following from that, the trim tab needs to be large enough to be able to trim properly for approach and landing. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)


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    Time: 07:50:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Best STOL 701 video ever!!!
    From: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org>
    I'm going to have to build one of these someday. The 701 was actually my first choice, then I changed my mind thinking the 601XL was more versatile, which it is and I don't regret it. At some point I'll have to revisit it. It looks like a fun plane. I can see being a two-plane family. :) -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=165022#165022


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    Time: 08:06:27 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: XL WING BOLTS??
    The outer four bolts must be longer because they also pass through the four upright angle brackets (6B13-1). -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of chris Sinfield Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:24 AM Subject: Zenith-List: XL WING BOLTS?? <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> I am looking at the main wing bolts on 6-W-4 and it states that the main wing is held on by 12X AN5-15A bolts but then on page 6-S-3 it states Wing attachment bolts are 4 X AN5-16A and 8X AN5-15A. I guess I should put the right bolts in. What have others used? I have the latest set of plans. Chris. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164983#164983


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    Time: 08:21:36 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@primus.ca>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Bob, The slot was about 1/4 inch long before I got it the way I wanted. Be sure to leave good edge clearance to the slot! Re other notes, I haven't been able to figure out how you can put the nose down without losing height, since the wing incidence would change from level flight. If the flaps or ailerons are adjusted for greatest speed, I understand that, but then wouldn't you want to adjust the hor. stab for trim neutral? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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    Time: 08:36:00 AM PST US
    From: "Greg Finlay" <gcfinlay@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Seems to me, I heard Chris H. at a seminar talking about measuring the distance of the joystick from the panel when trimmed at cruise, then checking how streamlined the elevator looks when on the ground... assuming then you reiterately adjust the stabilizer? I have a poor memory so "results may vary" (;^> Cheers, Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of NYTerminat@aol.com Sent: February 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab Dave, My trim is centered in cruise. I usually fly alone, not much change with a passenger. My CG is slightly aft but well within range. I like the idea of a slotted bracket to try different settings. If this setting that I am choosing doesn't work, I may try the slotted bracket to adjust the rear of the stabilizer. How much of a difference does one degree or 6 mm make? I know that the 601 and 701 are different but they would probably react similar. Bob In a message dated 2/19/2008 9:26:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, daveaustin2@primus.ca writes: Bob, I'd be interested to know where your trim tab is positioned when at cruise with what I would describe as your "usual" loading of the aircraft? (conditions you fly under most of the time). It should be at a neutral position. If not, then adjust the hor. stab angle to give that condition. (Does mean you have to land without moving the elevator trim a few times). That produces least drag for that flying condition. I slotted the rear attachments to give me the adjustment, then replaced them with unslotted. Following from that, the trim tab needs to be large enough to be able to trim properly for approach and landing. Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII


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    Time: 08:45:19 AM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Dave, That is my dilemma, I'm not sure it will work. With all the chat about the 601's and their improvement in cruise it has me wondering. Bob In a message dated 2/19/2008 11:23:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, daveaustin2@primus.ca writes: Bob, The slot was about 1/4 inch long before I got it the way I wanted. Be sure to leave good edge clearance to the slot! Re other notes, I haven't been able to figure out how you can put the nose down without losing height, since the wing incidence would change from level flight. If the flaps or ailerons are adjusted for greatest speed, I understand that, but then wouldn't you want to adjust the hor. stab for trim neutral? Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)


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    Time: 09:02:06 AM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Sabrina Re: pitching the H-stab
    Re-pitchingLowering the flaps usually brings the nose down in the same way as changing the angle of incidence of the main wing. Re-pitching the horizontal stabilizer will not have much effect on the nose high attitude of the plane, it will just change the trim geometry. On Feb 19, 2008, at 8:07 AM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote: > Hi Bob. I built my 801 as close to the specs as I could and measured > my wing and horizontal stabilizer incidence multiple times. I am > very confident I have my plane right and it to flys nose up. If I > set it up in level cruise flight and add just a little bit of flaps > the nose drops a couple of degrees and it picks up about 4 mph. I > don't know if I want to try to change the tail setting cause mine is > all painted and it will be major surgery to switch. > > >> Hi all, >> >> With all the talk of pitching the horizontal stabilizer lately I >> have a quick question. I am doing my conditional inspection on my >> 701 and decided to replace the front horizontal stabilizer brackets >> to the .063 material. There were no cracks in my old ones but I >> figured I might as well bite the bullet now while the weather is >> keeping me from flying anyway. I have always felt that I was flying >> in a nose high attitude while at cruise and that I do not see the >> higher MPH that others see. I purchased a digital level and have >> discovered that my horizontal stabilizer was about a half of a >> degree low in the front (approx 3 mm). I plan on raising it one >> degree so that I will be a half of a degree higher in the front >> based on the A-E line. I am wondering if this is a good idea as I >> believe this will get me flying in a better attitude at cruise and >> pick up some speed. Any thoughts? >> >> Bob Spudis >> N701Zx/ CH-701/ 912S/ 140hrs >> -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 09:12:43 AM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: XL WING BOLTS??
    As I recall, the outermost four bolts pass through more layers of metal than the other eight. That accounts for the longer length. My plans called for all the same length, and that's what I used. I think I just used an extra washer where needed to get the correct thread engagement of the nuts. I think I have a washer under the bolt head on most of my bolts but not on the outer four. I don't recall what length my bolts are though. > > > > > I am looking at the main wing bolts on 6-W-4 and it states that the > main wing is held on by 12X AN5-15A bolts but then > > on page 6-S-3 it states Wing attachment bolts are 4 X AN5-16A and 8X > AN5-15A. > > I guess I should put the right bolts in. What have others used? I > have the latest set of plans. > > Chris. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 09:15:55 AM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Navaid Devices
    A few years ago I bought an Autopilot from them, Mr Brock told me once that he goes to every flyin or airshow as possible, to show his products, so probably he is out of town. Normally when he gets back he catches up with mail and calls. Saludos Gary Gower. Herb Heaton <Heatonhe36@msn.com> wrote: The number I used was (423) 267-3311. The first time I called was the day after the tornadoes went through that section of the country. Hopefully, they weren't affected by the storms. I have called every day since and get no answer. Maybe you are right...maybe they are on vacation. I'll just keep trying until I get a response. Thanks for the reply. Herb Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: jackandval To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:04 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Navaid Devices I talked to them about a month ago with no problem, maybe they are on vacation. Did you use the phone number on their web site? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=164896#164896 http://www.matron====================== bsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.


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    Time: 09:40:22 AM PST US
    From: "Les Goldner" <lgold@quantum-associates.com>
    Subject: Black crud in gascolator
    Bryan, Since I used the most expensive unlimited shelf life fuel line sold by Spruce, I just assumes it was alcohol proof. But now you have me wondering. I put a call in to Aeroquip's tech staff to find out if the line is alcohol proof... no answer yet! Les _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Martin Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Black crud in gascolator Does the fuel have alcohol in it? Are your fuel lines alcohol proof? On Feb 18, 2008, at 1:15 PM, Les Goldner wrote: At 8 hours TT and now again at 15 hours, I noticed a lot of small non-magnetic black particle specks in fuel drained from the gascolator and tank drains on my new 701. These particles settle to the bottom of the drained fuel and stop coming out after draining about 6 ounces. My 701 has only one gascolator that is placed in the fuel line on the engine side of the firewall just downstream of two fuel filters (one for each wing tank). I don't understand how the gascolator could get dirty downstream of the filters and don't know where the specs are coming from. I cleaned everything with a vacuum cleaner and with compressed air pressure before connecting the lines. The black specs are non-metallic and I don't think they are aluminum. My fuel lines are Aeroquip, stainless steel clad, top-of-the-line, and the fuel filters are 10 micron stainless screens that are about 1' in diameter. So far there has been no decrease in fuel flow or engine power. Has anyone else had this problem and there something I should be doing about it besides checking the fuel filters? Thanks for the help, Les -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 10:11:56 AM PST US
    From: ken smith <lrepilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: KR2 / ea-81 / avionics / instruments / corvair parts
    for sale Hi Brandon, I am interested in the KR. My 601XL is in need of extensive repair after I landed in a field. I had the engine quit on takeoff from F70. Pls Email pics. Regds ken --- Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> wrote: > <btucke73@yahoo.com> > > Gents, > > I have a KR2 on the gear for sale. Tail > surfaces > mostly completed, spars completed. Rudder pedals > installed. Comes with inner wing panel fiberglass > skins. The project was started by a man that passed > away, and given to me. I don't have the time to > complete. Email me for pics. $1500 OBO. > > Lots of good spruce. Best offer. > > EA-81 core and belt reduction unit. $1500 OBO. > > Zenith carburetor ser# 14992A. Looks new. Best > offer. > > 35mm Aerocarb with Filter. $250 OBO. > > Ameri-King Alt Encoder AK-350. New in box. $90 > OBO. > > United / Weco Airspeed indicator new - $75 OBO. > > Used VSI - $30 OBO. > > New in box - Westach Oil temp, oil press, ammeter, > EGT, Turbo - $100 OBO. > > Terra TXN 920 ILS COMM W/ tray and harness - $400 > OBO. > > Terra TX 760 COMM and TN200 Nav W/ tray and harness > - > $700 OBO. > > Good 8409 Corvair crank. Tapped for WW safety > shaft. > Not nitrited yet, but standard journals. $50 OBO. > > 2 110 hp Corvair heads. Will need full overhaul. > $50 > each OBO. > > I also have a couple of used venturies, a vacuum > pump, > and Narco CP 136 audio panel. > > All prices plus actual shipping. All of this stuff > is > located in Victorville, Ca (1 hour NE of LA). I > will > put it on ebay if nobody here wants it. I'll put it > all together for a great starter package... Please > email me at btucke73@yahoo.com or > brandon.tucker@uav.com. M(760)586-5757 or > W(760)388-8356. > > R/ > > Brandon Tucker > 601 HDS / TD / Corvair > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > browse > Un/Subscription, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > Forums! > > Admin. > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 10:45:07 AM PST US
    From: Jeyoung65@aol.com
    Subject: Re: KR2 / ea-81 / avionics / instruments / corvair parts
    for sale Hi Ken, what engine did you have quit? Also do you know why it quit? Jerry of Ga In a message dated 2/19/2008 1:13:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lrepilot@yahoo.com writes: --> Zenith-List message posted by: ken smith <lrepilot@yahoo.com> Hi Brandon, I am interested in the KR. My 601XL is in need of extensive repair after I landed in a field. I had the engine quit on takeoff from F70. Pls Email pics. Regds ken --- Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker > <btucke73@yahoo.com> > > Gents, > > I have a KR2 on the gear for sale. Tail > surfaces > mostly completed, spars completed. Rudder pedals > installed. Comes with inner wing panel fiberglass > skins. The project was started by a man that passed > away, and given to me. I don't have the time to > complete. Email me for pics. $1500 OBO. > > Lots of good spruce. Best offer. > > EA-81 core and belt reduction unit. $1500 OBO. > > Zenith carburetor ser# 14992A. Looks new. Best > offer. > > 35mm Aerocarb with Filter. $250 OBO. > > Ameri-King Alt Encoder AK-350. New in box. $90 > OBO. > > United / Weco Airspeed indicator new - $75 OBO. > > Used VSI - $30 OBO. > > New in box - Westach Oil temp, oil press, ammeter, > EGT, Turbo - $100 OBO. > > Terra TXN 920 ILS COMM W/ tray and harness - $400 > OBO. > > Terra TX 760 COMM and TN200 Nav W/ tray and harness > - > $700 OBO. > > Good 8409 Corvair crank. Tapped for WW safety > shaft. > Not nitrited yet, but standard journals. $50 OBO. > > 2 110 hp Corvair heads. Will need full overhaul. > $50 > each OBO. > > I also have a couple of used venturies, a vacuum > pump, > and Narco CP 136 audio panel. > > All prices plus actual shipping. All of this stuff > is > located in Victorville, Ca (1 hour NE of LA). I > will > put it on ebay if nobody here wants it. I'll put it > all together for a great starter package... Please > email me at btucke73@yahoo.com or > brandon.tucker@uav.com. M(760)586-5757 or > W(760)388-8356. > > R/ > > Brandon Tucker > 601 HDS / TD / Corvair > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > browse > Un/Subscription, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List > > Forums! > > Admin. > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)


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    Time: 11:52:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Black crud in gascolator
    From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
    You might want to try here and look up the hose you used. http://hydraulics.eaton.com/products/fluid_conveyance_aeroquip.htm lgold(at)quantum-associat wrote: > Bryan, > Since I used the most expensive unlimited shelf life fuel line sold by Spruce, I just assumes it was alcohol proof. But now you have me wondering. I put a call in to Aeroquip's tech staff to find out if the line is alcohol proof... no answer yet! > Les -------- W.R. &quot;Gig&quot; Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=165070#165070


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    Time: 03:59:51 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Culver" <rculver@nycap.rr.com>
    Subject: Subaru owners
    What changes did you have to make to the landing gear etc in order to compensate for the slightly heavier Subaru engine vs the 901. I can deal with CofG later but as I buy materials I need to know what needs to be heavier than what is listed in the standard plans that I have which are latest revision AFAIK.. Thanks in advance.. Ron Culver .."Scratching" slowly in upstate NY


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    Time: 04:27:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Navaid Devices
    From: "jackandval" <jackry@alltel.net>
    They have a full time technician that is there all the time so I don't think that is the reason that they are not answering. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=165112#165112


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    Time: 04:59:19 PM PST US
    From: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Subaru owners
    One thing that is recommended is to mount the landing gear main spring with the flat side forward. This puts the main wheels a bit farther forward to make it easier to rotate for take-off. Other than that, the current plans should be good to go, they've already beefed up the firewall area since the earlier plans. On Feb 19, 2008, at 6:55 PM, Ron Culver wrote: > > What changes did you have to make to the landing gear etc in order > to compensate for the slightly heavier Subaru engine vs the 901. I > can deal with CofG later but as I buy materials I need to know what > needs to be heavier than what is listed in the standard plans that I > have which are latest revision AFAIK.. > > Thanks in advance.. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive.


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    Time: 05:24:30 PM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Subaru owners
    Ron, What are you building? Where Upstate are you located? Bob Spudis In a message dated 2/19/2008 7:00:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rculver@nycap.rr.com writes: Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Culver" <rculver@nycap.rr.com> What changes did you have to make to the landing gear etc in order to compensate for the slightly heavier Subaru engine vs the 901. I can deal with CofG later but as I buy materials I need to know what needs to be heavier than what is listed in the standard plans that I have which are latest revision AFAIK.. Thanks in advance.. Ron Culver .."Scratching" slowly in upstate NY **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)


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    Time: 07:42:54 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Culver" <rculver@nycap.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Subaru owners
    Bob slowly a CH 701 and I live near Albany,NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Subaru owners Ron, What are you building? Where Upstate are you located? Bob Spudis In a message dated 2/19/2008 7:00:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rculver@nycap.rr.com writes: Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Culver" <rculver@nycap.rr.com> What changes did you have to make to the landing gear etc in order to compensate for the slightly heavier Subaru engine vs the 901. I can deal with CofG later but as I buy materials I need to know what needs to be heavier than what is listed in the standard plans that I have which are latest revision AFAIK.. Thanks in advance.. Ron Culver .."Scratching" slowly in upstate NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.


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    Time: 08:31:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 701 motor mount attach points on firewall
    From: "jf3sb" <jf3sb@yahoo.com>
    Jerry: I've attached a picture of the left side of my 912 ring mount. You can see the tab sticking out to the left where it will be bolted to the firewall. The bolt goes through the firewall and through a bent steel plate in back which also bolts into the flange of the firewall. Presumably whatever mount you're building could be attached the same way. Incidentally, the previous 912 bed-mount mounts a little differently right here. The mount tab sticks up rather than to the left, so it overlaps on top of 7F7-1SP. That way the bolt goes through 7F7-1SP as well, which seems a little more durable to me. Hope that helps. Drop me an email offline if not, or give Zenith a call. John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=165154#165154 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscf1488_142.jpg




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