---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/16/08: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: canopy for 601XL? () 2. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis (Ronald Steele) 3. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis (Jay Maynard) 4. 09:13 AM - Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg (Tim Juhl) 5. 09:59 AM - Re: Sign-on for structural analysis (ashontz) 6. 10:03 AM - Re: Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg (thesumak@aol.com) 7. 10:15 AM - Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg (Sabrina) 8. 10:18 AM - 3-view, tri-gear, pdf (Jaybannist@cs.com) 9. 10:19 AM - CH 601XL, tri-gear, dwg (Jaybannist@cs.com) 10. 10:21 AM - 3-view, TD, pdf (Jaybannist@cs.com) 11. 10:22 AM - 3-view, TD, dwg (Jaybannist@cs.com) 12. 10:35 AM - 3-view drawings (Jaybannist@cs.com) 13. 10:39 AM - 3-view drawings rejected (Jaybannist@cs.com) 14. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis (Steve Shuck) 15. 10:57 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) (Matt Dralle) 16. 11:08 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Craig Payne) 17. 11:11 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) (Craig Payne) 18. 11:14 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected - NOT (Jaybannist@cs.com) 19. 11:19 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) (Jaybannist@cs.com) 20. 11:22 AM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Jaybannist@cs.com) 21. 12:12 PM - Re: 3-view drawings (David Downey) 22. 12:13 PM - Re: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) (David Downey) 23. 12:43 PM - 3-view, tri-gear dwg (Jaybannist@cs.com) 24. 02:39 PM - Re: 3-view, tri-gear dwg (David Downey) 25. 05:51 PM - cont 0-470 in an 801 (Tracy) 26. 07:13 PM - Re: CorvAircraft> 200 Hour Milestone (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 27. 07:34 PM - Another Corvair 601XL Flying (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 28. 07:53 PM - Re: cont 0-470 in an 801 (n801bh@netzero.com) 29. 07:55 PM - Re: 3-view, tri-gear dwg (Don Mountain) 30. 08:06 PM - Re: Another Corvair 601XL Flying (n801bh@netzero.com) 31. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: CorvAircraft> 200 Hour Milestone (william Clapp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: canopy for 601XL? From: I looked into using an RV style canopy, but they are not compatible due to the way the 601 narrows towards the front. I had Todd at www.toddscanopies.com custom build a longer and slightly higher canopy for me. It can be viewed on his website. It will install with the stock hardware, but I designed my own system with rear opening cantilever hinges so I could have a separate windshield. I'm not flying yet but hope to be this year. Craig S. N601XS, 601xl lyc 0-235, wiring and wing installation left planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co wrote: > Does anyone know of someone trying to match a RV6/7 canopy to the 601XL fuse? > > The planview fuselage width distributions between the two planes, while similar in overall width, have substantial differences in terms of where the maximum girth point occurs and also in the direction of taper. Has anyone done any further exploration of canopy options such as this...? ----------------------------------------- ************************************************** This e-mail and any of its attachments may contain Exelon Corporation proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to the Exelon Corporation family of Companies. This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout. Thank You. ************************************************** ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:43 AM PST US From: Ronald Steele Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis I'm out. I'm wondering just what is the expected result of this analysis. There are two possibilities, the design is found to be sound, in which case money has been spent to feel good. Or the design is found to be deficient. In this case you can't expect he consultant to redesign the wing, which would be a whole other level of effort and a lot more money, not to mention liability issues for the engineer. Regarding the static testing: The purpose of a test is to gather information. That can best be done in a very controlled environment and static testing is the most controlled you can get. All sorts of structures are tested this way from bridge models to sky scrappers. It's not perfect, but most things in life aren't. Perhaps more information could have been gained thought testing to destruction, but it's not really necessary in this case sense he design loads were met. I'm with Larry on this, work with ZAC. Build a wing and do the destructive test yourself in whatever failure mode you are concerned about. do no archive. Ron ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:33 AM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:44:47AM -0400, Ronald Steele wrote: > I'm wondering just what is the expected result of this analysis. > There are two possibilities, the design is found to be sound, in > which case money has been spent to feel good. Or the design is found > to be deficient. In this case you can't expect he consultant to > redesign the wing, which would be a whole other level of effort and a > lot more money, not to mention liability issues for the engineer. Knowing there's a problem - or not, as is entirely possible - is half the battle. If nothing else, if there is a problem, then we can, hopefully, get Zenith/Zenair to fix it. > Regarding the static testing: The purpose of a test is to gather > information. That can best be done in a very controlled environment > and static testing is the most controlled you can get. All sorts of > structures are tested this way from bridge models to sky scrappers. If it's a problem that only appears under certain conditions you can't achieve in static testing, though, you'll never find it. Aircraft have more ways to go wrong than bridges or skyscrapers, too. I'm not saying that there is a problem. I just want to know for sure. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (getting ready to order) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:08 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg From: "Tim Juhl" Peter, we have all been there at one time or another. Part of the fun and challenge of homebuilding is how we deal with our screw-ups. I guarantee if you go to a gathering like Oshkosh and look around you will not find a cosmetically perfect plane. Perhaps it is a good thing that this happened early so that you can get beyond it... like getting the first scratch on a new car :-) Me, I'd fill the hole with spot putty or the like. If it makes you feel better you can add an additional rivet to either side between the correct rivet and it's intended neighbors. Structural integrity will not be compromised. I agree that having a fast drill is important. I use a Sioux 3500 rpm palm drill (air) which works great. It is also important to use sharp 135 split point drill bits because they tend to hold their center and not wander. I know some of the guys sharpen them but my advice is when the bit starts to get dull, toss it and put in a new one. In the Yard store catalog #40 bits are only $0.70 each Tim do not archive -------- ______________ CFII Champ L16A flying Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A Working on fuselage Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170171#170171 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:12 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis From: "ashontz" This is my real interest in this. I can accept the inherent dangers in flying, but no chance in taking any more risks than is necessary. If you can double check this on the ground, why not. Be like assuming you have enough fuel on board or the oil level is topped off. That's just stuff you check. If you experienced an odd engine vibration on your last, you probably wouldn't just forget about it and go ut flying the next day. You also check this out if it seems something is amiss. Nothing chicken-hearted here at all. do not archive jmaynard wrote: > If it's a problem that only appears under certain conditions you can't > achieve in static testing, though, you'll never find it. > > Aircraft have more ways to go wrong than bridges or skyscrapers, too. > > I'm not saying that there is a problem. I just want to know for sure. > -- > Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com > http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net > Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) > AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (getting ready to order) -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170176#170176 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg From: thesumak@aol.com Peter: =C2- Looks like you have gotten some good advice.=C2- If you decide to fill tha t small hole with a solid flush rivet, I might suggest that you not drill that hole through the rib flange since that would compound the problem of having holes too close together.=C2- Rather, I would slightly countersink the underside of the skin and install the rivet with the bucked side out.=C2- After assembly, you can file the bucked side flush with the skin and it becomes just a metal plug.=C2- I have done this a time or two. =C2- With me, it seems the real challenge of the building process is how safely and elegantly I can dig myself out of mistakes.=C2- I also f ind it helpful to re-read the construction standards every few months. =C2-I=99m always surprised at how many of my questions get answered there. =C2- Good luck, Bill ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Emailing: 020.jpg, 022.jpg From: "Sabrina" There are critical and non-critical stressed skin components. If it makes you feel better, run your photo past Zenith. Attached is an example of where a mistake should not be repaired as shown--the rear spar attach. This is where the forward and rear skins meet, by adding a fourth layer of material for only part of the joint, a stress point is created where the forward skin must stretch over the patch and rejoin the rear skin. The builder has placed this "stress" point just above the rear spar attach point. Not a good idea according to the engineer who sent this photo to me. DO NOT ARCHIVE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170181#170181 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rejected_163.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:47 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view, tri-gear, pdf ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:58 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: CH 601XL, tri-gear, dwg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:21:57 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view, TD, pdf ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:45 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view, TD, dwg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:53 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings Listers, I have been overwhelmed with requests for my 3-view drawings, so I have decided to post them so you can pick and choose. Remember these are of a CH 601XL with a William Wynne cowling and nose bowl. I have posted four drawings: tri-gear in pdf and dwg; and tail dragger in pdf and dwg. The dwg files are in AutoCAD2000. Jay in Dallas CH 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser" ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:58 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected Listers, I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. Thanks - Jay in Dallas Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:59 AM PST US From: Steve Shuck Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Sign-on for structural analysis Well said the both of you,,,, I'M STILL IN as well.. This is my real interest in this. I can accept the inherent dangers in flying, but no chance in taking any more risks than is necessary. If you can double check this on the ground, why not. Be like assuming you have enough fuel on board or the oil level is topped off. That's just stuff you check. If you experienced an odd engine vibration on your last, you probably wouldn't just forget about it and go ut flying the next day. You also check this out if it seems something is amiss. Nothing chicken-hearted here at all. do not archive jmaynard wrote: > If it's a problem that only appears under certain conditions you can't > achieve in static testing, though, you'll never find it. > > Aircraft have more ways to go wrong than bridges or skyscrapers, too. > > I'm not saying that there is a problem. I just want to know for sure. > -- > Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com > http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net > Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) > AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (getting ready to order) -------- Andy Shontz CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=170176#170176 --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:32 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) Hi Jay, Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: > >Listers, > >I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. > >Thanks - Jay in Dallas >Do not archive Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:22 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected Actually I received the file "3-View-TD.dwg" (217 KB) just fine. I get my messages as individual e-mail messages. But at this point I will make my usual pitch for using the Matronics "photo and file share". Attachments don't get archived. So any files of lasting value should be submitted to be shared. It is easy: just e-mail them to Matt at the right address with some information: (from http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/) "If you wish to submit a Photo and File Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email pictures and files along with the information above to: pictures@matronics.com Please note that the adding of your files to the Photo and File Share Directory is a semi-manual process and will take a few days to become available. A message will be posted to the Email List(s) you indicated in #1 above with a link to the new Photo and File Share when it is available." -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jaybannist@cs.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected Listers, I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. Thanks - Jay in Dallas Do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:34 AM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) BTW: there are a number of free DWG viewers available, one from Autodesk. Just google "dwg viewer" or try this link: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=6703438&siteID=123112 -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) Hi Jay, Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: > >Listers, > >I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. > >Thanks - Jay in Dallas >Do not archive Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:37 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected - NOT Well, I was told the dwg files had been rejected; but, there they are anyhow. Jay in Dallas Do not archive Jaybannist@cs.com wrote > >Listers, > >I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. > >Thanks - Jay in Dallas >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:10 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) Matt, I see the dwg drawings are indeed on the forum. Thanks - Jay Matt Dralle wrote: > >Hi Jay, > >Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin > > >At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: >> >>Listers, >> >>I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. >> >>Thanks - Jay in Dallas >>Do not archive > > >Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:21 AM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected Matt graciously opened the forum to dwg files, so they are available to all. Jay in Dallas Do not archive "Craig Payne" wrote: > >Actually I received the file "3-View-TD.dwg" (217 KB) just fine. I get my >messages as individual e-mail messages. > >But at this point I will make my usual pitch for using the Matronics "photo >and file share". Attachments don't get archived. So any files of lasting >value should be submitted to be shared. It is easy: just e-mail them to Matt >at the right address with some information: > >(from http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/) > >"If you wish to submit a Photo and File Share of your own, please include >the following information along with your email message and files: > > 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: > 2) Your Full Name: > 3) Your Email Address: > 4) One line Subject description: > 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: > 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: > >Email pictures and files along with the information above to: > > pictures@matronics.com > >Please note that the adding of your files to the Photo and File Share >Directory is a semi-manual process and will take a few days to become >available. A message will be posted to the Email List(s) you indicated in #1 >above with a link to the new Photo and File Share when it is available." > >-- Craig > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >Jaybannist@cs.com >Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:36 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected > > >Listers, > >I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If >you need a dwg, let me know directly. > >Thanks - Jay in Dallas >Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:12 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings Hi Jay, I got both the PDFs but when I tried to save the DWG files they both had the same name? Listers, I have been overwhelmed with requests for my 3-view drawings, so I have decided to post them so you can pick and choose. Remember these are of a CH 601XL with a William Wynne cowling and nose bowl. I have posted four drawings: tri-gear in pdf and dwg; and tail dragger in pdf and dwg. The dwg files are in AutoCAD2000. Jay in Dallas CH 601XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser" Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:06 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view drawings rejected (Now Allowed!) Hi Jay; The one missing is the Tri-gear dwg. Matt, I see the dwg drawings are indeed on the forum. Thanks - Jay Matt Dralle wrote: > >Hi Jay, > >Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin > > >At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: >> >>Listers, >> >>I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. >> >>Thanks - Jay in Dallas >>Do not archive > > >Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:54 PM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: 3-view, tri-gear dwg Dave, Here 'tis. - Jay David Downey wrote: >Hi Jay; > >The one missing is the Tri-gear dwg. > > >Matt, > >I see the dwg drawings are indeed on the forum. > >Thanks - Jay > > >Matt Dralle wrote: > >> >>Hi Jay, >> >>Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. >> >>Matt Dralle >>Matronics Email List Admin >> >> >>At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: >>> >>>Listers, >>> >>>I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. >>> >>>Thanks - Jay in Dallas >>>Do not archive >> >> >> >>Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >>925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >>http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dave Downey > Harleysville (SE) PA > 100 HP Corvair > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:24 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view, tri-gear dwg Thankee Jay Jaybannist@cs.com wrote: Dave, Here 'tis. - Jay David Downey wrote: >Hi Jay; > >The one missing is the Tri-gear dwg. > > >Matt, > >I see the dwg drawings are indeed on the forum. > >Thanks - Jay > > >Matt Dralle wrote: > >> >>Hi Jay, >> >>Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. >> >>Matt Dralle >>Matronics Email List Admin >> >> >>At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: >>> >>>Listers, >>> >>>I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. >>> >>>Thanks - Jay in Dallas >>>Do not archive >> >> >> >>Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >>925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >>http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dave Downey > Harleysville (SE) PA > 100 HP Corvair > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:51:47 PM PST US From: Tracy Subject: Zenith-List: cont 0-470 in an 801 has anybody any thoughts on outiing an cont 0-470 6 cylnder in an 801. it weights 425 and zenith calls for a maw of 440 has 230 horse and zenith calls for a max of 240 has anyone put anything that heavy in there 801??? ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:35 PM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Re: CorvAircraft> 200 Hour Milestone That brings up something I wanted to try and track. How many hours total there are currently on modern Corvair conversions. I would suspect WW has the most hours on them but I would like to make a list and total up the hours of all combined. Jeff **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:44 PM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Another Corvair 601XL Flying Well the Yellow 601 on the web site _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com) took to the air Thursday and made a flawless 30 Min flight up to 3,000 feet and I am happy to report the new oil cooler, oil filter adaptor and Alternator preformed as expected. The plane flew straight and level and no (Tweaks) were needed. It flew again today for 30 min's. This was my second builders assist and Pat loves his new bird. _www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com) Jeff **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:27 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cont 0-470 in an 801 It can be done. !!!! do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- Tracy wrote: has anybody any thoughts on outiing an cont 0-470 6 cylnder in an 801. it weights 425 and zenith calls for a maw of 440 has 230 horse and zenith calls for a max of 240 has anyone put anything that heavy in there 801??? ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== _____________________________________________________________ Click here for legal help with your social security disability! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tZb01mGtk0TtMcQMpy pQccGxj0hu2dsxgJbcTuKod7nIjTU/ ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:13 PM PST US From: Don Mountain Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 3-view, tri-gear dwg Can somebody tell me how to access these files? I looked all over the "Forums" and can't figure out where these Zenith .dwg pictures are. Maybe I don't understand how all of this stuff works. Or can they just be posted on here? Don Mountain 601XL David Downey wrote: Thankee Jay Jaybannist@cs.com wrote: Dave, Here 'tis. - Jay David Downey wrote: >Hi Jay; > >The one missing is the Tri-gear dwg. > > >Matt, > >I see the dwg drawings are indeed on the forum. > >Thanks - Jay > > >Matt Dralle wrote: > >> >>Hi Jay, >> >>Try uploading again. I've just enabled .dwg uploads to the Forums. >> >>Matt Dralle >>Matronics Email List Admin >> >> >>At 10:35 AM 3/16/2008 Sunday, you wrote: >>> >>>Listers, >>> >>>I was just informed that the extension .dwg is not allowed on the forum. If you need a dwg, let me know directly. >>> >>>Thanks - Jay in Dallas >>>Do not archive >> >> >> >>Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >>925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >>http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Dave Downey > Harleysville (SE) PA > 100 HP Corvair > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:54 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another Corvair 601XL Flying Congrats to you...... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- Aerolitellc@aol.com wrote: Well the Yellow 601 on the web site www.aeroliteproducts.com took to the air Thursday and made a flawless 30 Min flight up to 3,000 feet and I a m happy to report the new oil cooler, oil filter adaptor and Alternator preformed as expected. The plane flew straight and level and no (Tweaks) were needed. It flew again today for 30 min's.This was my second builde rs assist and Pat loves his new bird. www.aeroliteproducts.com Jeff ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== = _____________________________________________________________ Prepare for the unexpected. Click now to prepare a living trust. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tFu4um0tDoq34GA2XV uRIAsb1hNVfdLw5W3SNNLSwQJAKGe/ ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:58 PM PST US From: william Clapp Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: CorvAircraft> 200 Hour Milestone Congrats Mark on the 200 hrs. It sure is a lot of fun to take your kids up. Caution on taking up the neighbor kids. I had one throw up spagetti on a flight...Yugh! But such is the joy of flying. 41768 currently has 575 flight hours on it, and about 370 on a nitrided crankshaft. I have about 630 hours in various corvair aircraft from KRs to 601s. I am sure that Mark Langford is at the 600 hour mark on his plane. I know that Gus had lots of corvair hours since he did all the flying for WW. I know that WW is still woking on getting his pilots license so that he too can join the ranks. Dave Goodman has over 100 hours on his KR, Steve Makish over 300, Bob Lester had a couple hundred, Dan Weesman has about 100 I believe. Dont forget Joe Horton, Pete Bradigan and more. I venture to guess that there are more KR/Corvair hours than 601/corvair hours but since Peitenpols have been flying for years they may still be king of the hill. I hope for many thousand of safe flying hours to come. Aerolitellc@aol.com wrote: That brings up something I wanted to try and track. How many hours total there are currently on modern Corvair conversions. I would suspect WW has the most hours on them but I would like to make a list and total up the hours of all combined. Jeff --------------------------------- It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. Bill Clapp - KR2S builder and pilot Valdosta GA www.billclapp.com --------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.