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1. 04:10 AM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Al Hays)
2. 04:31 AM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (kmccune)
3. 04:45 AM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (John Short)
4. 05:13 AM - Sun-N-Fun BBQ (ZodieRocket)
5. 05:51 AM - Re: Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP (David Downey)
6. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP (LarryMcFarland)
7. 07:20 AM - AMD: rumored demise (Jay Maynard)
8. 07:22 AM - FW: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (Jay Maynard)
9. 08:08 AM - Re: FW: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (steve)
10. 08:12 AM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Jeyoung65@aol.com)
11. 08:35 AM - Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (Gig Giacona)
12. 08:36 AM - Re: AMD: rumored demise (Gig Giacona)
13. 08:52 AM - Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (hansriet)
14. 08:59 AM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (kmccune)
15. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP (Mike Fothergill)
16. 09:42 AM - Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (Gig Giacona)
17. 09:58 AM - [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (Gig Giacona)
18. 10:30 AM - [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (swater6)
19. 10:34 AM - Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (Jay Maynard)
20. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (Craig Payne)
21. 10:45 AM - Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (Larry Winger)
22. 01:35 PM - [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? (Gig Giacona)
23. 01:37 PM - Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (Gig Giacona)
24. 01:50 PM - Letter from Chris (hansriet)
25. 01:52 PM - Re: Letter from Chris (Gig Giacona)
26. 01:53 PM - Re: Letter from Chris (Gig Giacona)
27. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (Dan Lykowski)
28. 02:29 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Larry H)
29. 03:23 PM - Press release from AMD (Jay Maynard)
30. 03:48 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (kmccune)
31. 04:09 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Graeme)
32. 04:14 PM - Re: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot (rsteele@rjsit.com)
33. 04:17 PM - Re: Great News! (Sabrina)
34. 04:52 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (kmccune)
35. 05:03 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Matt Ronics)
36. 06:12 PM - Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (kmccune)
37. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Ronald Steele)
38. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Letter from Chris (Larry H)
39. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) (Jerry Hey)
40. 07:17 PM - Hello.Check out this new website (Mr Rudder)
41. 09:52 PM - Selling my ch640 kit (robertstdenis)
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
I found more info, including pricing at the below link on the Rotomax
website. It certainly looks very promising, but we'll have to wait
and see since "things that seem too good to be true probably are
not". Is this the same one which is supposed to be at S&F in a
couple weeks? I can't go but am looking forward to hearing about it
from some folks who can.
http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/enginespecs.htm
Al
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:29 PM, James E. Lanier wrote:
> <jim.lanier@charter.net>
>
> Interesting. Let us know about the pricing. I see that there is a
> belt drive and gear drive option.
>
> Jim
>
>
> John Reinking wrote:
>> <reinkings@comcast.net>
>>
>> Stumbled across this site and thought you all might be interested.
>> Have eMailed this firm about total weights including starter,
>> charger, cooling and exhaust systems. They'll also hopefully
>> send the price for the various packages as well. Anyone know
>> anything about this subject? I'm thinking 601XL. Here's the link:
>>
>> http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/index.html
>>
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
There is a gentleman on this list who is putting one in his 701. I'm sure you
could search for him using rotomax as a search string.
Click link and scroll down for pics
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=41198
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
That strange, I ran across this a month or so ago and the prices were on
there site where it says call for pricing now. I wonder if they got to
thinking why sell for less.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James E. Lanier" <jim.lanier@charter.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise)
> <jim.lanier@charter.net>
>
> Interesting. Let us know about the pricing. I see that there is a belt
> drive and gear drive option.
>
> Jim
>
>
> John Reinking wrote:
>>
>> Stumbled across this site and thought you all might be interested.
>> Have eMailed this firm about total weights including starter,
>> charger, cooling and exhaust systems. They'll also hopefully
>> send the price for the various packages as well. Anyone know
>> anything about this subject? I'm thinking 601XL. Here's the link:
>>
>> http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/index.html
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I am looking for Chuck Diver, I do not have his E-Mail address. Please
contact me directly at bbq@can-zacaviation.com
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP |
you will lose one or the other more than one or the other! The way you select the
prop is everything. More diameter and flatter pitch will always yield better
climb than smaller diameter and higher pitch - they produce optimized cruise.
There is no reason that everyone in todays Experimental movement forgets that
virtually all entry level airplanes used to be frugal gas sippers with extremely
poor climb performance. If you chjoose to optimize the prop for climb and
are willing to settle for a cruise of 100-110 you can still get great climb with
the XL on well less than 100 hp.
ics <e_jocular@yahoo.com> wrote:
Already having on-hand a C-85, I called Zenith about using it in the XL. In summary,
I was advised that I probably wouldn't be pleased with the performance.
At the same time, I was told that this would be an excellent engine in a 601HD/S.
Of note you are asking for "cruise speed" with the 80hp engine. Note that, generally
speaking, it is climb performance, and not cruise, that is effected more
by changing cubes. For example, using Van's numbers for the RV-4, increasing
the HP 17% will give you a 6% improvement in cruise and a 25% improvement in climb.
Having thought this through in the past, I recall coming to the conclusion that
the XL with 85hp would perform like a C-150. I spoke with one 601HD (standard
fat wing) owner with a C-85...his numbers were very close to or less than those
of a C-150.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172354#172354
Dave Downey
Harleysville (SE) PA
100 HP Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP |
Matt,
The analogy to the C150 is pretty close, but I'd think improved by the
601s weight advantage and wing. The HD would be less because of the
thickness of the wing.
On the other hand, a HDS would not be a performer because the 23 foot
wingspan needs a 100 hp engine to climb and cruise decently. With my
Stratus Subaru, the
economy cruise is excellent and climb is very good, but the climb is
nowhere close to an HD with the same engine.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Matt Ronics wrote:
>
> Already having on-hand a C-85, I called Zenith about using it in the XL. In
summary, I was advised that I probably wouldn't be pleased with the performance.
At the same time, I was told that this would be an excellent engine in a 601HD/S.
>
> Of note you are asking for "cruise speed" with the 80hp engine. Note that, generally
speaking, it is climb performance, and not cruise, that is effected more
by changing cubes. For example, using Van's numbers for the RV-4, increasing
the HP 17% will give you a 6% improvement in cruise and a 25% improvement
in climb.
>
> Having thought this through in the past, I recall coming to the conclusion that
the XL with 85hp would perform like a C-150. I spoke with one 601HD (standard
fat wing) owner with a C-85...his numbers were very close to or less than
those of a C-150.
>
>
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| Subject: | AMD: rumored demise |
There was a rumor just posted to the Yahoo! Groups sport pilot list that AMD
has gone under. I've spoken to the folks at their Jacksonville distributor,
and they said things are fine. I can't get an answer at the AMD factory's
phone number. Anyone know what's going on?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
----- Forwarded message from Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@verizon.net> -----
From: Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD?
Bill Denton wrote:
> Where did you hear this about AMD?
Reliable source. I also called Edsel at AFS 610 to confirm. He hadn't
heard but said he wouldn't be surprised considering the number of
airworthiness issues they've had. He's going to research this today to
confirm. He said if it is true, this will be the first LSA company for
which the FAA will have to rescind airworthiness certificates and it
should be an interesting process to watch.
----- End forwarded message -----
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Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
I m staying out of this one. Thanks to "Wang Chung".
SW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Maynard" <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:18 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: FW: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD?
>
> ----- Forwarded message from Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@verizon.net> -----
>
> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:52 -0400
> From: Helen Woods <Helen_Woods@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD?
> To: Sport_Aircraft@yahoogroups.com
>
> Bill Denton wrote:
>> Where did you hear this about AMD?
>
> Reliable source. I also called Edsel at AFS 610 to confirm. He hadn't
> heard but said he wouldn't be surprised considering the number of
> airworthiness issues they've had. He's going to research this today to
> confirm. He said if it is true, this will be the first LSA company for
> which the FAA will have to rescind airworthiness certificates and it
> should be an interesting process to watch.
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
Not looking to use this engine but,(?) noted the price of a single sparkplug
130 HP engine cost was $6,600.00 and the price of a 130 HP engine with dual
sparkplugs was $15,136.00 Never knew that spark plugs cost that much:-).
Also the shaft for the propeller sure looks SMALL! Jerry
In a message dated 3/27/2008 7:11:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
alhays@hickoryhillfarmsheep.com writes:
I found more info, including pricing at the below link on the Rotomax
website. It certainly looks very promising, but we'll have to wait and see since
"things that seem too good to be true probably are not". Is this the same one
which is supposed to be at S&F in a couple weeks? I can't go but am looking
forward to hearing about it from some folks who can.
_http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/enginespecs.htm_
(http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/enginespecs.htm)
.
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
Look in the support forums on the Dynon site. There is a thread with LOTS of info.
hansriet wrote:
> I've read about it in kitplanes, but can't find anything on thge dynonavionics
website.
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: AMD: rumored demise |
I just dialed their sales number and they answered.
478-374-2759
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
[quote="Gig Giacona"]Look in the support forums on the Dynon site. There is a thread
with LOTS of info.
Thanks, that's great info and exciting news. Makes perfect sense to utilize the
Dynon solid state gyros for this.
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
They have a brochure in PDF format, down load it for prices.
The single rotor turbo looks interesting!
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you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL Cruise Speed with 80HP |
Hi;
The CH-601HDS easily outperforms the C150 with an 80 hp 912. Of course,
even more so with the 100hp.
Mike
CH-601 HDS
1200+hours
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Matt,
> The analogy to the C150 is pretty close, but I'd think improved by the
> 601s weight advantage and wing. The HD would be less because of the
> thickness of the wing.
> On the other hand, a HDS would not be a performer because the 23 foot
> wingspan needs a 100 hp engine to climb and cruise decently. With my
> Stratus Subaru, the
> economy cruise is excellent and climb is very good, but the climb is
> nowhere close to an HD with the same engine.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Matt Ronics wrote:
>
>>
>> Already having on-hand a C-85, I called Zenith about using it in the
>> XL. In summary, I was advised that I probably wouldn't be pleased
>> with the performance. At the same time, I was told that this would be
>> an excellent engine in a 601HD/S.
>>
>> Of note you are asking for "cruise speed" with the 80hp engine. Note
>> that, generally speaking, it is climb performance, and not cruise,
>> that is effected more by changing cubes. For example, using Van's
>> numbers for the RV-4, increasing the HP 17% will give you a 6%
>> improvement in cruise and a 25% improvement in climb.
>> Having thought this through in the past, I recall coming to the
>> conclusion that the XL with 85hp would perform like a C-150. I spoke
>> with one 601HD (standard fat wing) owner with a C-85...his numbers
>> were very close to or less than those of a C-150.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
Looks like the hardware is the hard, or at least, costly part. It seems that Dynon
isn't even charging for the software.
rsteele(at)rjsit.com wrote:
> Now that sounds interesting. I've been wondering why this hasn't
> happened in the past. I'm sort of surprised that the Enigma didn't get
> there first with it's everything in one approach.
>
> I'm a software engineer by profession and I've been thinking it would be
> fun to write an AP, but I'm completely clueless about hardware
> interfaces. No time while building anyway.
>
> Ron
> 601Xl wings
> do not archive
>
> ------
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
I'm not. I called them and they had heard of the rumor and said there was nothing
to it. In fact they are fixing to move to a larger facility.
Let's keep something in mind. There are those that really need there to be a problem
with the 601XL and the AMD LSA version specifically. Those people are the
European builders of competing LSAs and there sales forces in the USA.
If you haven't noticed the value of the dollar has dropped significantly over the
past few months. This has a HUGE effect on the companies trying to export to
the US.
Who is this Helen Woods that posted to the Yahoo group and who is her "Reliable
source?" Then there is her comment attributed to the guy at the FAA that says.
"he wouldn't be surprised considering the number of
airworthiness issues they've had." What airworthiness issues would that be?
So, ask yourself, who has something to gain by this sort of rumor.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
Well said Gig! You're absolutely right.
It's a shame this was posted on our list before letting it run it's course on the
yahoo list.
She lets out this little bomb of a rumor and in the same breath asks if anyone want to buy a Technam. I read a few of her earlier posts and found out that she does indeed work for a Technam dealer. Here is the website of Chesepeak Sport Pilot where she is an instructor and they are a dealer for Technam. http://www.chesapeakesportpilot.com/instructors.htm
She may indeed have "heard" something from someone she thinks is credible but she
also has something to gain by fueling flames of her competition. That is poor,
poor business conduct.
Folks, there are a lot of manufacturers of LSA and even more people that have invested
their fortune in a dealership. Many of these will not survive and this
will cause some people to do some pretty bad things to stay in business. This
may not be the case with this person but we should all be weary of what we
hear on a forum......
Put this one to bed...
Scott
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601 XL kit N596SW reserved
Tail, control surfaces and both wings complete. Now working on fuselage
www.scottwaters.com
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| Subject: | Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:55:30AM -0700, Gig Giacona wrote:
> I'm not. I called them and they had heard of the rumor and said there was
> nothing to it. In fact they are fixing to move to a larger facility.
That's the answer I got when I finally was able to reach them, too. I was
initially concerned because I wasn't able to get an answer when I called
them about 10 AM Eastern...when they should have had someone there. I don't
know what had happened, but I'm satisfied now.
> Let's keep something in mind. There are those that really need there to be
> a problem with the 601XL and the AMD LSA version specifically. Those
> people are the European builders of competing LSAs and there sales forces
> in the USA.
Indeed. As I've been saying about other things, though, just because the
messenger may have an ulterior motive doesn't automatically invalidate the
message.
> Who is this Helen Woods that posted to the Yahoo group and who is her
> "Reliable source?"
Ms. Woods is a Tecnam dealer in Maryland. I knew that up front, even if her
initial message ("So, can I interest you in a Sierra?") didn't make it
plain. I don't know who her reliable source is.
> Then there is her comment attributed to the guy at the FAA that says. "he
> wouldn't be surprised considering the number of airworthiness issues
> they've had." What airworthiness issues would that be?
When I asked her about that, she referred to the wing-collapse accidents
we've been discussing here.
> So, ask yourself, who has something to gain by this sort of rumor.
We should always ask that question - but we should always also independently
check the facts and make sure that there's fire beneath the smoke.
As I said on the list where this was originally posted, I've got no problem
with Helen's posting the original message. Sure, it can easily be read as a
blatant attempt at FUD, but if she hadn't posted it, someone else would
have, and we'd still be having to check it out and post the facts.
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
Actually Rainier (head of MGL) just announced they will be developing their
own servos on the Stratomaster users group on Yahoo:
<quote>
There have been on and off requests in the past for us to produce an
autopilot. I tended to answer this in the negative but it has been a low key
project. You can find a autopilot simulator in the Odyssey simulator. Active
a "goto", switch the HSI to GPS nav and engage the autopilot and it will fly
your track. This works with whatever you can throw at the HSI and of course
the altitude bug works as well as vertical source.
Due to "you know who" imminent release of their autopilot interface I have
decided to break cover to avoid the "why did you not tell us"
scenarios that could emerge - I suppose my hand has been "forced".
Effectively we will introduce CAN bus controlled intelligent servos that you
can plug into an Odyssey, Voyager or Explorer. Enigma will need a small
external CAN interface.
The servos are similar in principle to the ones produced by Trutrak, i.e.
based on a geared stepper motor. This allows simplicity and a high degree of
reliability due to few parts. Servos like this are "clutch-less" and have a
very small amount of residual drag when not engaged - but so little that is
not noticeable in flight. They have a number of good advantages -
effectively they are a magnetic clutch that cannot wear and the trip torque
(torque required to override the servo) can easily be programmed in a wide
range from the panel.
As the CAN bus is multi-master and multi-drop, there is no limit to the
number and configuration of servos which means you can have a single axis, 2
axis, 3 axis (with rudder control) and 4 axis (the forth axis is throttle).
Split servos are also possible (for example one for each aileron) The servos
can be controlled from either panel in a multi panel system for redundancy.
Of course the existing ARINC429 and NMEA based autopilot interfaces will
continue to be supported.
I was planning to announce this later in the year but have now decided to
bring this forward and should be showing them of at Osh.
Rainier
<end quote>
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rsteele@rjsit.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot
Now that sounds interesting. I've been wondering why this hasn't
happened in the past. I'm sort of surprised that the Enigma didn't get
there first with it's everything in one approach.
I'm a software engineer by profession and I've been thinking it would be
fun to write an AP, but I'm completely clueless about hardware
interfaces. No time while building anyway.
Ron
601Xl wings
do not archive
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Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
<wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
Since we are talking about autopilots. I just noticed that Dynon has
announced the AP add-on for there line of EFIS.
At the low end of the line you can have a single servo unit for just
$750
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
Good bit of detective work, Scott.
Larry Winger
601XL/Corvair
Tustin, CA
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: [Sport_Aircraft] Re: AMD? |
There is no way an FAA employee said on the record and shouldn't be saying it off
that there was an airworthiness issue regarding the wing failures.
The FAA never made the determination that there was an airworthiness issue with
the 601XL and certainly not with the LSA version.
It's this statement that gives away the fact that the whole thing is a rumor started
and repeated by competitors that are going to have to up the cost of their
airplanes by 25% or more because of the drop in the dollar.
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
All these lower cost EFIS add-on APs have got to have the folks that make the AP
only units wetting themselves.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Letter from Chris |
Maybe it's old news to you, but I just found a new letter from Chris and an elevator
limit mod on the builders pages.
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| Subject: | Re: Letter from Chris |
Is it online? And if so where?
hansriet wrote:
> Maybe it's old news to you, but I just found a new letter from Chris and an elevator
limit mod on the builders pages.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Letter from Chris |
Never mind I found it.
Here's the link.
http://zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/ch-letter-601xl-3-25-2008.pdf
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
Although I am working on a different project, I get to
hear all of the discussions over the cube walls.
The software is just as difficult as the hardware.
The base algorithm has been flying for years in UAVs.
As with all of our products, we don't release them
until they are have been rigorously tested and we are
assured that they work as they should.
The autopilot information should be up on the website
in the next few days.
To answer the basic questions:
- Our servo is the same size/shape as TruTraks.
- It weighs less than the TruTrak servo.
- You can't use TruTrak servos with our autopilot.
- It can use the TruTrak mounting kit.
- You don't need to buy an AP-74 or AP-76 for our
autopilot to function.
- It uses only 4 wires.
- Each servo costs only $750.
My wife and I plan on being at the Cloverdale fly-in
in May. I'll do my best to bring along a servo and our
Zenith mounting kit if I can. We are looking forward
to seeing many of you again!
Dan Lykowski
601XL Builder( Tail finished / Wings underway )
Software Engineer
Dynon Avionics
--- Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net> wrote:
> <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
>
> Looks like the hardware is the hard, or at least,
> costly part. It seems that Dynon isn't even charging
> for the software.
>
>
> rsteele(at)rjsit.com wrote:
> > Now that sounds interesting. I've been wondering
> why this hasn't
> > happened in the past. I'm sort of surprised that
> the Enigma didn't get
> > there first with it's everything in one approach.
> >
> > I'm a software engineer by profession and I've
> been thinking it would be
> > fun to write an AP, but I'm completely clueless
> about hardware
> > interfaces. No time while building anyway.
> >
> > Ron
> > 601Xl wings
> > do not archive
> >
> > ------
>
>
> --------
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> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
I would consider this for my 2nd project airplane in the future, BUT if they decide
to raise the prices up to be more in line with Rotax and Jabiru, they will
sadly find out - it just won't fly (sorry about the pun). In order to charge
a higher price, people have to be educated about them and what they can do (or
can't do). The only way that will happen is to make them extremely affordable
to get enough of them being used and gaining a reputation (hopefully a good
one). The word of mouth is the best seller of all. If they chose to price
gouge upfront, they are going to have an AWFULLY LOT of rotarys sitting around......waiting
on an order....I for one will NOT buy one without it being "proven
in flight use" for several years to come.
Larry H
Jeyoung65@aol.com wrote:
Not looking to use this engine but,(?) noted the price of a single sparkplug
130 HP engine cost was $6,600.00 and the price of a 130 HP engine with dual
sparkplugs was $15,136.00 Never knew that spark plugs cost that much:-). Also
the shaft for the propeller sure looks SMALL! Jerry
In a message dated 3/27/2008 7:11:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alhays@hickoryhillfarmsheep.com
writes:
I found more info, including pricing at the below link on the Rotomax website.
It certainly looks very promising, but we'll have to wait and see since "things
that seem too good to be true probably are not". Is this the same one which
is supposed to be at S&F in a couple weeks? I can't go but am looking forward
to hearing about it from some folks who can.
http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/enginespecs.htm
.
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| Subject: | Press release from AMD |
John Degonia, AMD's sales manager, just sent me this press release and said
I could post it where I wanted.
From: "Mathieu Heintz" <newplane@gmail.com>
<degonia@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Press release March 2008
To all AMD aircraft owners,
On behalf of Aircraft Manufacturing & Design, I have some exciting news to
share with you. I want you to be among the first to hear about our new
manufacturing facility and Aircraft Manufacturing & Design. The driving
force behind this is a re-organization effort to put in place a long term
structure that will ultimately better serve all our customers: Better sales
and better maintenance services, but also increased production of the
well-established Zodiac and the introduction of exciting new models, such as
the Patriot.
AMD is only producing Light Sport Aircraft (LSA) such as the Zodiac and
Patriot and will be relocating to a newer manufacturing building on the same
airport in Eastman, Georgia. Based on its vision - and the strength of its
ambitious business plan - AMD has now signed a long term "lease to own"
agreement on a brand new 25,000 square-foot commercial building. Yes, the
company is investing for the long term; it is aggressively positioning
itself to become a significant US manufacturer of LSA.
Another major achievement for AMD is that it just received Product Liability
Insurance approval from one of the major insurance underwriters for the
Light Sport Aircraft that it produces. This will set AMD apart from almost
all other LSA manufacturers, and again, will ultimately benefit its
customers: the owners and pilots of its aircraft.
Clearly, the focus of AMD is aircraft that are designed and built to the new
Light Sport (LSA) standards. Production of the Alarus type-certificated
aircraft, previously produced by Aircraft Manufacturing & Development will
continue at Zenair Ltd of Canada on a limited basis. Current Alarus owners
and operators in need of parts will be serviced by Zenair Ltd at
705-526-2871. All Alarus-related service information will continue to be
distributed through the Internet and will be available online at
http://www.newplane.com/amd/CH2000_Service.html .
For Zodiac or Patriot sales, please contact John Degonia at 478-374-2759 or
e-mail him at degonia@bellsouth.net .
For Zodiac or Patriot service, please contact Garry at gwebst@bellsouth.net
or Terry at ttiraboschi@bellsouth.net , or by phone at 478-374-2759.
For more information on AMD please see www.newplane.com .
We welcome everyone to visit us at our our new building on the Eastman GA
airport. However, please ignore the clutter as it will take us until May
2008 to be completely moved into our new facilities.
Very sincerely,
John Degonia
Aircraft Manufacturing & Design
Sales Manager
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http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June)
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
Actually if they start to charge like Rotax, I don't care IF they do work exactly
as claimed. I won't be buying one.
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
the main problem with rotary engines is fuel consumption.
check endurance with the quoted consumption figures
rotary engines can be noisy at the exhaust also.
graemecns
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeyoung65@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120
cruise)
Not looking to use this engine but,(?) noted the price of a single
sparkplug 130 HP engine cost was $6,600.00 and the price of a 130 HP
engine with dual sparkplugs was $15,136.00 Never knew that spark plugs
cost that much:-). Also the shaft for the propeller sure looks SMALL!
Jerry
In a message dated 3/27/2008 7:11:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
alhays@hickoryhillfarmsheep.com writes:
I found more info, including pricing at the below link on the
Rotomax website. It certainly looks very promising, but we'll have to
wait and see since "things that seem too good to be true probably are
not". Is this the same one which is supposed to be at S&F in a couple
weeks? I can't go but am looking forward to hearing about it from some
folks who can.
http://www.rotaryaircraftengines.com/enginespecs.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot |
As well as those of us planning to install one. To me this is really
exciting. Maybe that means I'm basically a boring person! What I love
most is just watching the world slide by down below.
Ron
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Non-hinged ailerons with autopilot
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
<wr.giacona@suddenlink.net>
All these lower cost EFIS add-on APs have got to have the folks that
make the AP only units wetting themselves.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
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CH's letter referenced on 3/18/08:
http://zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/ch-letter-601xl-3-25-2008.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
The single rotor turbo is not bad... 2.8 - 5.6 gph
[quote="graeme(at)coletoolcentre."]the main problem with rotary engines is fuel
consumption.
check endurance with the quoted consumption figures
rotary engines can be noisy at the exhaust also.
graemecns
> ---
--------
Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
kmccune wrote:
> The single rotor turbo is not bad... 2.8 - 5.6 gph
>
Not too many years ago there was a small US-based viable single rotor rotary engine
being developed. I would suspect that one of these two manufacturers was/is
involved with the earlier project that I am thinking of.
I recall that the engine's fuel consumption was on par with that of a 2-stroke
to get the same horsepower. The projected engine price was more than a 2-stroke
Rotax. With comparable fuel consumption, if/when these engines become available,
I think one would have to choose between the known quirks of the 2-stroke
and the unknown quirks of these engines. If forced to make this decision,
I'd choose the former.
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
I'm not using one, just offering up what info I have.
do not archive
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Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that
you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream.
Discover.
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
Did anyone else notice that the 100hp single rotor is has oil
injection? I don't know much about rotaries, I thought they were two
stroke like anyway, firing every revolution. I just thought this was
curious.
Ron
On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Matt Ronics wrote:
>
>
> kmccune wrote:
>> The single rotor turbo is not bad... 2.8 - 5.6 gph
>>
>
>
> Not too many years ago there was a small US-based viable single
> rotor rotary engine being developed. I would suspect that one of
> these two manufacturers was/is involved with the earlier project
> that I am thinking of.
>
> I recall that the engine's fuel consumption was on par with that of
> a 2-stroke to get the same horsepower. The projected engine price
> was more than a 2-stroke Rotax. With comparable fuel consumption,
> if/when these engines become available, I think one would have to
> choose between the known quirks of the 2-stroke and the unknown
> quirks of these engines. If forced to make this decision, I'd
> choose the former.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173148#173148
>
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| Subject: | Re: Letter from Chris |
Here is it Gig:
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/ch-letter-601xl-3-25-2008.pdf
Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@suddenlink.net> wrote:
Is it online? And if so where?
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| Subject: | Re: ROTOMAX skypower 130 engine (130hp max/120 cruise) |
Not only is there oil injection, there is no oil pan at all. The oil
system is total loss and before this panics anyone, check it out at
Sun N Fun. It is cool and it is proven. Much superior to
recirculating dirty oil, I think. Also, since there is no pan, the
engine's foot print, size and weight, is significantly reduced. Like
I said, I have no connection with the company but I do admire this
engine. I tend to think it will live up to its promises. jerry
On Mar 27, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Ronald Steele wrote:
>
> Did anyone else notice that the 100hp single rotor is has oil
> injection? I don't know much about rotaries, I thought they were
> two stroke like anyway, firing every revolution. I just thought
> this was curious.
>
> Ron
>
> On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Matt Ronics wrote:
>> <e_jocular@yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>> kmccune wrote:
>>> The single rotor turbo is not bad... 2.8 - 5.6 gph
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not too many years ago there was a small US-based viable single
>> rotor rotary engine being developed. I would suspect that one of
>> these two manufacturers was/is involved with the earlier project
>> that I am thinking of.
>>
>> I recall that the engine's fuel consumption was on par with that of
>> a 2-stroke to get the same horsepower. The projected engine price
>> was more than a 2-stroke Rotax. With comparable fuel consumption,
>> if/when these engines become available, I think one would have to
>> choose between the known quirks of the 2-stroke and the unknown
>> quirks of these engines. If forced to make this decision, I'd
>> choose the former.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=173148#173148
>>
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| Subject: | Hello.Check out this new website |
Hello there fellow aviation enthusiasts!
Please allow me to introduce a new website geared towards bringing
pilots and non-pilots, hobbyists and professionals, together.
HTTP://AVIAPORTAL.NET
Our aim is to help aviators socialize, discuss and enjoy everything about wings
and the sky.
My friends and I developed this non-profit site with the goal to give back to and
support the aviation community. We thought this would be best accomplished
by providing a medium for members to share and discuss their passion through
various features. This website is user-friendly and absolutely free of charge.
Get the latest news and reports from the aviation world, as well as the following
features that the website offers.
Forums: these offer members the opportunity to post information, stories, tips
and tricks about numerous aviation topics. We also have a free classified section
to post items for sale or wanting to buy.
Chat: chatting is live one-on-one discussion with other members. The possibilities
here are endless, but lets keep it clean!
Blog: blogging gives members the opportunity to randomly post thoughts, ideas,
stories and commentaries without the structure of forums. Members are free to
post about anything, anytime.
Photo Album: members are allowed to post up to 50 MB of pictures. So lets see
your planes, your projects and whatever else you have captured with your camera.
Groups: this feature offers the option to create groups based on common interests.
The groups can be private or public, goal-oriented or just for fun. Just
a place to get together with aviator friends.
Virtual events: have an upcoming event? This feature allows members to advertise
for their future events, as well as report on past events. Posts can be accompanied
by pictures.
Messages: e-mail other aviation buffs with this feature, as long as mail recipients
are aviaportal.net members.
Whether youre interested in commercial or general aviation, light sport or ultralights, a career or a hobby, an interest or a passion, this website has something for you. Log on to http://aviaportal.net to sign up, and explore new heights.
Have blue skies,
Rudolph
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Best regards,
Mr Rudder
mr_rudder@aviaportal.net
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| Subject: | Selling my ch640 kit |
Been thinking long and hard about this given the impending twins, and now that
they are here and I have had to leave one of my jobs to make time to be home and
all that at this point it serves us better here for me to sell my kit (completed
rudder, 30% disassembled stab, plans) lest they get damaged in storage.
Will even throw in four cans of zinc chromate spray paint if ya like.
I'm looking for $1300 for the lot, u haul it kinda deal (mini van is enough).
I'm in the Sudbury Ontario area (4hrs to Toronto, 5 to Ottawa, ~3hrs to the Soo).
Contact me here or via phone 705-479-1031 or email rob@iahu.ca.
No worries guys, I will return.
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