---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/05/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:10 AM - Re: Re: AMD Zodiac XL (Paul Mulwitz) 2. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: welding (Terry Turnquist) 3. 01:08 PM - Re: Off To Sun-N-Fun Next Week (Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito) 4. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: AMD Zodiac XL (Juan Vega) 5. 02:38 PM - Re: Off To Sun-N-Fun Next Week (cookwithgas) 6. 04:28 PM - 6" wheels for 5" (anna Jones) 7. 05:56 PM - Re: Rudder skin wrinkling kind of.... (David Downey) 8. 07:53 PM - Re: Canopy Seal and other Rubber parts (Gig Giacona) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:10:18 AM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: AMD Zodiac XL Hi Juan, I am happy to stand corrected. However, I didn't actually say the Zodiac was "Just" for fun. I said it was good for fun and training. I am delighted to hear you are getting good business travel use from your plane. It does sound like the perfect plane for travel around a single state - even a long one like Florida. My goal in the post comparing Cessnas and Zodiacs was to put some measure (metric) into the comparison rather than just a brand name comparison. The Cessna brand is a lot more diverse than the Zodiac brand. Zodiacs all have 2 seats and roughly the same performance. Cessnas vary from the low-and-slow 140 through assorted Citation business jets. I felt Mark was not giving a fair comparison between Cessnas and Zodiacs when he said the Cessnas are less responsive. I also wanted to point out that Zodiac owners might be happy with that plane for a long time, but the limits of seats and baggage constraints might cause them to want a larger plane at some point. It is not just the handling characteristics that causes a pilot to want a different plane. I could also have pointed out that the Zodiac is slow compared to some other GA planes, but I don't actually think that is a significant point. While there are a few GA planes that are a lot faster than the Zodiac, I feel that extra speed doesn't often mean significantly less travel time in the distance that is really practical to fly yourself. I feel long distance travel is a lot more practical by getting on the jet airliner than flying your own small plane. I agree with you that the low fuel burn in a Zodiac is very significant when choosing which plane to take on a given trip. Best regards, Paul do not archive At 12:02 PM 4/4/2008, you wrote: >Paul, >I must say your statement of using the Zodiac for just fun is way >off Base. WAY OFF BASE! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:39 AM PST US From: Terry Turnquist Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: welding Here is a great series of Bud Davisson welding articles if you're an EAA member. Terry Welding -homebuilder Cool. I'll check it out. [quote="planecrazydld(at)yahoo.co"]Andy; You asked about welding instruction. Here is the link to a government sponsored handbook: http://www.fortunecity.com/village/lind/247/index_WELD.htm Also, Tinmantech is a good reference: http://tinmantech.com/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174642#174642 --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:57 PM PST US From: "Roberto Ap. Rodrigues de Brito" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off To Sun-N-Fun Next Week Hi Mike, My wife and I'll go to Zenith's BBQ on Sun'n Fun and we can meet there. Rgds, Beto Zodiac XL 601 Enigma. www.airfox.com.br ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:17 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: AMD Zodiac XL well..... ok, you are forgiven.... say twenty hale marys.. ..... ten our fathers would do it :) Juan Vega -----Original Message----- >From: Paul Mulwitz >Sent: Apr 5, 2008 9:04 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: AMD Zodiac XL > > >Hi Juan, > >I am happy to stand corrected. However, I didn't actually say the >Zodiac was "Just" for fun. I said it was good for fun and >training. I am delighted to hear you are getting good business >travel use from your plane. It does sound like the perfect plane for >travel around a single state - even a long one like Florida. > >My goal in the post comparing Cessnas and Zodiacs was to put some >measure (metric) into the comparison rather than just a brand name >comparison. The Cessna brand is a lot more diverse than the Zodiac >brand. Zodiacs all have 2 seats and roughly the same >performance. Cessnas vary from the low-and-slow 140 through assorted >Citation business jets. I felt Mark was not giving a fair comparison >between Cessnas and Zodiacs when he said the Cessnas are less responsive. > >I also wanted to point out that Zodiac owners might be happy with >that plane for a long time, but the limits of seats and baggage >constraints might cause them to want a larger plane at some >point. It is not just the handling characteristics that causes a >pilot to want a different plane. > >I could also have pointed out that the Zodiac is slow compared to >some other GA planes, but I don't actually think that is a >significant point. While there are a few GA planes that are a lot >faster than the Zodiac, I feel that extra speed doesn't often mean >significantly less travel time in the distance that is really >practical to fly yourself. I feel long distance travel is a lot more >practical by getting on the jet airliner than flying your own small >plane. I agree with you that the low fuel burn in a Zodiac is very >significant when choosing which plane to take on a given trip. > >Best regards, > >Paul >do not archive > > >At 12:02 PM 4/4/2008, you wrote: >>Paul, >>I must say your statement of using the Zodiac for just fun is way >>off Base. WAY OFF BASE! > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:09 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Off To Sun-N-Fun Next Week From: "cookwithgas" I'll be there with my daughter. Staying with friends at Spruce Creek but hope to run into you at the BBQ. Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com 601XL/Corvair Finished & Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=174996#174996 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:56 PM PST US From: " anna Jones" Subject: Zenith-List: 6" wheels for 5" Hello group ,I have a pair of 6'' wheels from a piper Colt .Would anyone have a pair of 5" they would like to trade.If so contact me off list at wjones@brazoriainet.com . Thanks ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:14 PM PST US From: David Downey Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder skin wrinkling kind of.... My crate was completely undamaged except you could tell that it had been "set down hard" on that end. The problem is that the angle of the forward edges of the skin is more acute than the angle of the crate so the skins inside simply shifted and crumpled when the crate was mishandled. That is why I thought that letting them know might get them to change the angle on the end of the crate and keep others from the same experience. Larry Hursh wrote: Is this the way it came out of the shipping crate? Does the crate show signs of being damaged on that end? If so, IMMEDIATELY take a picture of the part AND the crate! You have a claim for the part that was damaged. I personally would NOT put this wavy skin on my airplane and have it look like this. If the shipping crate wasn't damaged, I would CALL Zenith immediately and let them know how you received this skin. It should NOT have any waves whatsoever on it. From what I can tell from the picture, it looks like the end was "jammed" by something. As I said, take pictures and call Zenith. They can get a replacement skin sent out to you and possibly help you file the claim from the people that delivered it to you. You want your aircraft to not only function well, you want it to LOOK GOOD TOO, right??? I would certainly would especially when you are going to spend this much money on your airplane! Larry Hursh (N601LL Reserved) SkyriderSBN@Yahoo.com Keep your eyes skyward - always! ">one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. Dave Downey Harleysville (SE) PA 100 HP Corvair --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:17 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Seal and other Rubber parts From: "Gig Giacona" You could always get it from Zenith. leinad wrote: > I'm still looking for a good source for the canopy seal and the rubber wing root fairings. Who sells this stuff? > I got some rubber extrusion that looks like the stuff for the canopy seal from ACS, but it's only for 1/8 thickness material. My canopy is thicker than that. > > Dan Dempsey > 601xl with Corvair, plans builder -------- W.R. 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