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1. 03:26 AM - First Flight (Scott Thatcher)
2. 06:35 AM - Re: C-GXLP first flight- corvair 601XL (leinad)
3. 02:36 PM - Re: 601HDS: Adding a cutout over the leading edge wing tanks (Mitch Hodges)
4. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: 601XL - Wing Attach Uprights - 2 Questions (Paul Mulwitz)
5. 04:32 PM - Re: Back From Sun-n-Fun (leinad)
6. 05:04 PM - Jab 2200 question (John Reinking)
7. 05:07 PM - Re: E-LSB (Bicycle) (LarryMcFarland)
8. 06:23 PM - Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? (n787xl@aol.com)
9. 08:02 PM - Re: Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? (Carlos Sa)
10. 10:18 PM - Nose Rib Template DWG 6-T-4 (James E. Lanier)
11. 10:23 PM - Re: Jab 2200 question (jetboy)
12. 10:29 PM - Re: brs install (Les Goldner)
13. 10:57 PM - Re: Re: Proposed changes to sport pilot regs. (Gary Gower)
14. 11:28 PM - Re: Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? (Craig Payne)
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Congratulations Lincoln. That has got to be a real thrill to lift those
mains off the ground! I've been taxi testing for awhile now and have had
the nose wheel off the ground but haven't yet built up the nerve for the
plunge! I keep watching the fuel pressure jump around and I'm still
getting fairly high readings on CHT and Oil Temp. Just don't want those
to jump too high while in the air!
Again, congratulations!
Scott Thatcher, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
601XL with Corvair, Registered as E-LSA
N601EL, http://placestofly.com, EAA203
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| Subject: | Re: C-GXLP first flight- corvair 601XL |
Lincoln,
Nice job and congratulations. I'm jealous. I hope to join you in the flying 601
club in about a year. (also using Corvair)
Dan Dempsey
http://daniel/dempseyfamily.us
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Re: 601HDS: Adding a cutout over the leading edge wing tanks |
Ron Lendon wrote:
> I haven't done that but the way you describe should work just fine. If you are
real careful, and just take the heads off, you can most likely use A4's again.
I was worried about the weight of the full tank pressing against it without the
continuity of a single piece nose skin. It appears the factory approved mod
requires A5 so I'll go with that once I get confirmation that it is Ok for the
HDS wing, although I don't know why it wouldn't be.
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Mitch Hodges
N601MH (Zenith 601HDS)
Wings Under Perpetual Construction
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL - Wing Attach Uprights - 2 Questions |
Hi Patrick,
Indeed, I felt the same way you do. I built and installed gussets on
the wing attach uprights in a fashion similar to the gear
uprights. I used the same material, .040 6061T6, and similar design
to the ones used for the gear uprights. I also asked ZAC about this
change and got approval from Nick for it. He said it wouldn't cause
problems, but he didn't say anything about it helping anything.
Here is a picture of my gussets along with the landing gear gussets.
[]
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
At 02:48 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote:
>Paul Mulwitz used gussets in that area... perhaps he will chime it and share
>some photos.
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| Subject: | Re: Back From Sun-n-Fun |
Dave,
I wish I had the opportunity to meet you. I was at Sun N' Fun but got to the BBQ
late. Most folks had left.
I've put some pictures on my web sight.
Also, working on my canopy.
Dan
http:://daniel.dempseyfamily.us
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Scratch building XL with Corvair Engine
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| Subject: | Jab 2200 question |
Quick question: I'm not too optimistic about this but what kind of
performance would I expect to see with the Jab 2200 on a max loaded
601XL? I'll stand back....
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| Subject: | Re: E-LSB (Bicycle) |
Thank you Roy,
I was pleased you found Rons Light Sport Recumbent a blast to ride. The
bike is a fun piece to build. When youre done with the plane, and still
have the itch to build something, it's a light and inexpensive project
to keep your welding skills sharp, the mind busy and offers a great ride
to the airport. For anyone curious or interested, the link to the page is,
www.macsmachine.com/html/2007recumbent.htm
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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Roy Szarafinski wrote:
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> Ladies and Gents,
> Sun n Fun was great, made new friends and
> re-acquainted with old ones.
>
> Thank you Pat Panzera for displaying my cut away
> engine in your booth, and thank you William Wynne for
> introducing me during your forums.
>
> The real reason for this post is to thank Larry
> Macfarland of macsmachine.com for a fine bicycle
> design. Ron Lendon built Larrys design from plans and
> he and I drove to Sun n Fun together, with the bike in
> Ron's van.
>
> For those folks unfamiliar, Larry calls his design the
> "light sport recumbent". All I can say is that it is a
> blast to ride and it certainly turns heads.
>
> I knew nothing about recumbent bikes until last week.
> Apparently what makes Larry's design unique is that it
> has a short wheelbase and has front and rear
> suspension, there are probably a few other trick
> things that I failed to notice because I was having
> way to much fun.
>
> I had to re-train my thinker a bit but once I got
> going it was like riding........ a bike! I practiced
> figure eights in front of the campsite and when Ron
> signed me off I was solo and conquering terrain.
>
> I have to have me one of these someday, maybe sooner
> than later with the price of gas and having a bike
> trail nearby that leads near my work 15 miles away.
>
> Ron can testify to the satisfaction of building
> Larry's design and I can testify for the sheer
> enjoyment of riding the end result.
>
> Best wishes to all,
> Roy, CH701 plans, Corvair ect.
> roysgarage.com
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? |
List
Has anyone have oil door design pictures and drawings if possible??
Thanks in advance.
James S.
601xl@90%
Jab 3300
Placerville, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? |
Here's one on an RV, perhaps a starting point for you.
http://www.rvproject.com/oildoor.html
Carlos
CH601-HD, plans
On 19/04/2008, n787xl@aol.com <n787xl@aol.com> wrote:
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> List
>
> Has anyone have oil door design pictures and drawings if possible??
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> James S.
>
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| Subject: | Nose Rib Template DWG 6-T-4 |
I have a question about the form block and raw aluminum shape/size of
the nose rib before bending.
The ribs 1-4 are shown in a pre-bend template drawing. I see no such
template for the nose rib.
The flange is 19mm on the sides and the spar end. It is the tip that is
unclear to me. Where does it show the flange dimension on the tip? What
is the shape/dimensions of the pre-bent aluminum to bolt to the form block?
Thanks is advance.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Jab 2200 question |
the XL was designed for 100 hp or more engines in mind, specifically Jabiru 3300
and Rotax 912S. If you only have 80hp, better stick with the basic 601UL or
601 model that are set up for that range. If you are yet to buy the engine, the
3300 is not much more $ than a 2200 anyway.
I can't answer with direct experience, but expect a 601XL would be unsatisfactory
with any 80hp direct drive engine, be it VW, EA81 or 2200.
Ralph
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My chute was a soft pack (not a canister) and BRS said to cut the skin 2"
wider than the chute pack on all sides. I scored the cover about 1/2 way
through to make certain that I did not cut too deeply but BRS provided no
insight regarding this.
I don't think BRS recommends a canister for the 701. I don't think they make
a big enough one for the job.
Les
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:14 AM
> To: zenith-list: matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: brs install
>
>
> has anybody installed the brs chute canister in the extended
> bagage copartment on a 701? how big do you make the plastic
> cover openin gin the skin and how deep do you score the
> plastic so that it will break open when deployed?
> thanks
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Proposed changes to sport pilot regs. |
Hello Paul,
Think about this for a minute, please:
The BIG problem with IFR capable airplanes, are that the pilots "think" they
are also capable...
I know that in a cross country flight when weather gets marginal, the "get-home-itis"
pushes the pilot to believe he can make it -at least to the next airport
in the plan- but without enough IFR practice is suicide.
How much IFR practice can a week end pilot get, if he probably flys around 50
hrs a year all together? Probably an active comercial or airline pilot, flying
a Sport Pilot for fun could have chance, not the rest of us...
What I think (if someone gets in the beguining of bad weather: fog, a shower
that is getting worse, etc) and just left "good weather" behind.
The only practical chance could be a Wing leveler -autopilot- conected to the
gps and make a real "flat and wide" 180 (with the autopilot knob) to try to
get out of the cloud... Hoping that the weather behind still is in acceptable
conditions and the land is flat...
Remember, we fly for fun, not to get "there __________" (put destination in line).
If weather gets bad, or headwind ends the afternoon earlier than expected...
Get a motel room or buy a comuter airline ticket and the next week end
come back for your still flyable and loved airplane that too much work and trouble
cost you to have it.
Is easyer in USA than in most of the worlds countries.
Just my point of view
Saludos
Gary Gower
Flying from Chapala, Mexico.
Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net> wrote:
>Many aircraft are IFR "capable" but really should stay on the ground
>when IMC.....
Hi Steve,
I agree with you completely.
Still, in the real world real people who fly cross country fly into
conditions where it is difficult to impossible to maintain control of
their planes simply by outside visual reference. In these inevitable
situations it is a life saver to be able to perform simple control of
the airplane solely by reference to instruments. Needle, ball, and
airspeed is enough. With no gyros or no instrument flying skills at
all the outcome of these incidents is nearly always fatal. It just
doesn't have to be that way.
The skill and equipment I am describing has very little to do with
IFR flight. It is simple stick and rudder skill with instruments
replacing the windshield for pilot orientation. In many ways, IFR
flight is more about dealing with the "System" than the airplane. It
includes filing and following complicated flight
plans. Understanding, copying and reading back
clearances. Navigating without outside reference. Dealing with air
traffic controllers, vectors, and all the complicated radio out
procedures. On the airplane level, IFR flight includes doing things
like zero/zero takeoffs, instrument approaches, and staying focused
for hours while the whole world inside and outside your plane is
trying to distract you. And then there is the whole area of dealing
with weather you can't see like ice and thunderstorms.
Considering all that, single pilot IFR flight in a light small poorly
equipped plane is not something I would want to do. However, being
able to survive brief periods of limited visibility and no clear
horizon to stay oriented is an ability I think all pilots and planes
should have.
Paul
XL fuselage
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| Subject: | Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs?? |
The 601XL cowl that Jabiru USA provides with their 3300 FWF kit comes with a
door and a recessed molded cut-out. See the attached picture.
Here is an offset hinge (for an RV-10):
http://www.justrvparts.com/Oil%20Door%20Hidden%20Hinge.htm
If you want a classy latch (instead of a quarter turn fastener) consider a
Hartwell fastener. But you have to match them to the depth of the door and
frame):
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_detail.php/pid=5075~subid=1456/
index.html
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n787xl@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Oil door, 601xl w/jab3300 designs??
List
Has anyone have oil door design pictures and drawings if possible??
Thanks in advance.
James S.
601xl@90%
Jab 3300
Placerville, CA
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