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1. 06:00 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
2. 04:52 PM - Re: O-290 install (Ken Lilja)
3. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Hinged VS Hingless ailerons (flutter & accidents) (Ken Lilja)
4. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Aileron balance (Ken Lilja)
5. 05:05 PM - Re: Aileron Balance (Ken Lilja)
6. 05:06 PM - Re: O-290 install (LHusky@aol.com)
7. 05:18 PM - Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
8. 05:49 PM - UPS (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
9. 05:51 PM - Re: Check Ride (pat & lyn)
10. 06:34 PM - Re: Check Ride (Michael Valentine)
11. 08:10 PM - Re: Check Ride (Bryan Ekholm)
12. 08:24 PM - Re: Check Ride (LarryMcFarland)
13. 08:32 PM - Re: Check Ride (Tim Juhl)
14. 08:34 PM - Re: Check Ride (Paul Mulwitz)
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| Subject: | Chat Room Reminder |
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| Subject: | Re: O-290 install |
Careful, really expensive, rare and hard to find parts! The last set of
rings we bought for our run stand engine was $600
Ken
LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> Has anyone ever installed an O-290. I have one available for a great
> price, but just do not know if it is possible. My XL fuselage is
> nearing completion and I need to really get started on FWF.
>
> Larry Husky
> Madras, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Hinged VS Hingless ailerons (flutter & accidents) |
Most gap seals are only attached to 1 surface and rub over the other
(except tape or fabric seals)
Ken
Ron Lendon wrote:
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> Andy,
>
> The gaps seals on the Cherokee are some type of plastic. I don't know how they
are attached.
>
> --------
> Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
> Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
> http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183032#183032
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron balance |
DC-9 used cables for the elevator and ailerons. "DC" = direct cable ;-)
Ken
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Juan Vega wrote:
> No, cables are not a primative way to move or tension the ailerons, check most
high performance turbine aircraft like the TBM or C-90, they use cables. they
just need to be built correctly.
>
> Juan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Balance |
That looks just like the aileron balance on the Piper Cherokee series
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Roberto Brito wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
>
>
>
> Here is the You Tube Video about my aileron balance.
>
> This is only a way for doing this, there are of course, other ways,
> for example.
>
> I'll post some pictures to you all that need them.
>
> Please do not do this in your plane before talking to your
> Aeronautical Engineer or other authority about it.
>
> I don't want to state hereby that it is the solution to the problem on
> our Zodiacs, if any, because I'm not an aeronautical engineer.
>
> Well, when my Zodiac entered a little turbulence, the ailerons shook a
> little and after towards I had the balance performed, it enters and
> nothing happens, it became much better, more comfortable.
>
> I hope that all Zodiac Owners can solve this problem, if any.
>
> All of us know that Zodiac is a good plane, that it has a good
> reputation, but it must do away with the crashes.
>
> To end up, I have a lot of respect regarding Heintz's family and I'm
> confident that should the Zodiac have any problem they will solve it.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_D4bt0guvM
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>
>
> Roberto Brito.
>
> Brasil.
>
>
>
> Zodiac XL 601 w/ 190hrs
>
> Jabiru 3300
>
> Enigma
>
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| Subject: | Re: O-290 install |
Thanks for the replys on the O-290. I think I will just try and find me a
runout O-200 and rebuild it. I thought I had a Corvair FWF deal, but the guy
backed out. I will find something.
Larry
In a message dated 5/19/2008 4:53:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net writes:
Careful, really expensive, rare and hard to find parts! The last set of
rings we bought for our run stand engine was $600
Ken
_LHusky@aol.com_ (mailto:LHusky@aol.com) wrote:
Has anyone ever installed an O-290. I have one available for a great price,
but just do not know if it is possible. My XL fuselage is nearing
completion and I need to really get started on FWF.
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
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Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I currently
have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will be appreciated.
I am concentrating on hood work and short field landings. I have VOR down
enough to pass. After that, I probably will never see one again. I work
graveyard in law enforcement and I have done a shift trade so that I will have
a
good nights sleep before the check ride. How do you get your nerves down
before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out
for a couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little.
Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check ride in a
1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
Larry Husky
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UPS Air Cargo
Just in case you need a laugh:
Remember it takes a college degree to fly a plane, but only a high school
diploma to fix one; a reassurance to those of us who fly routinely in our jobs.
After every flight, UPS pilots fill out a form, called a 'gripe sheet,'
which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics correct
the
problems; document their repairs on the form, and then pilots review the
gripe sheets before the next flight.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are some
actual maintenance complaints subm itted by UPS ' pilots (marked with a P)
and the solutions recorded (marked with an S) by maintenance engineers.
By the way, UPS is the only major airline that has never, ever, had an
accident.
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement. S: Almost
replaced left inside main tire.
*
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. S: Auto-land not installed
on this aircraft.
*
P: Something loose in cockpit S: Something tightened in cockpit
*
P: Dead bugs on windshield. S: Live bugs on back-order.
*
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
*
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S: Evidence removed.
*
P: DME volume unbelievably loud. S: DME volume set to more believable level.
*
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S: That's what friction
locks are for.
*
P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode. S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
*
P: Suspected crack in windshield S : Suspect you're right.
*
P: Number 3 engine missing. S: Engine found on right wing after brief
search
*
P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right and be serious.
*
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.
*
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
*
And the best one for last
*
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding
on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget.
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Ha Larry,Be happy,don't worry you'ell do fine, They are only looking out
for you and the safty of ,if U can control the air plane U will do
fine.POB PS it wasn't that longago that I was doing the same thing.
----- Original Message -----
From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will
never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have
done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before the
check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day! I do
plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a couple of
take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little. Has anyone
done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check ride in a 1978
172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
Larry Husky
N667H (Reserved)
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My only words of wisdom are, just listen to the examiner and make a
conscious note of what he is asking.
I took my check ride just after my 18th b-day. A couple days before I was
taking a para-gliding class that was my graduation present and sprained my
ankle something fierce on a bad landing. I ended up in the ER that night
and then taking my checkride (fairly far from home and difficult to
reschedule) with a big soft boot on my foot. But hey, they let me do it -
who needs rudder in a 172 anyway. The one mistake I remember is that the
examiner said turn to XXX heading. I started turning that way in a nice
standard-rate turn. At some point I realized I had absolutely no idea what
heading he had asked for. About that time he asked where I was going. I
was at about 135 turning left so I just said 130??? He corrected my heading
and let it go. I really don't remember anything else.
Above all, have fun and good luck.
Michael in NH
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On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, <LHusky@aol.com> wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will be
> appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field landings. I
> have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will never see one
> again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have done a shift trade so
> that I will have a good nights sleep before the check ride. How do you get
> your nerves down before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of hours
> early and going out for a couple of take off and landings, so that I might
> calm down a little. Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be
> taking my check ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time
> training. *
> **
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
> *
>
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Most likely you will have an oral questioning period with your examiner before
you go flying. Be prepared for that. I had to have a cross-country trip of so
many nautical miles (I don't recall how far) planned out as well. Arriving
early is a good plan. I intended to arrive early when I took my check-ride, but
ended up being late because another student arrived back late with the airplane
and left me with no fuel. Then I had to fly to another airport to meet the
examiner as well. Make sure your chart is current. You'll do fine.
Bryan Ekholm
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Relax Larry,
The check ride is not intended to be hard, but prove that you can do
only what is asked with some competence. I'm sure you'll do fine.
Listen to the examiner and
do the best you can and you'll pass the "test" easily. Anticipation is
always takes more than the energy needed to succeed.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
> be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
> landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably
> will never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I
> have done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before
> the check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day!
> I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a
> couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little.
> Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check
> ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training. *
>
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
> *
> *
> *
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Larry,
First of all, congrats on your accomplishment, I'm sure you'll do fine. That said,
here are a few points to remember:
1.) Your instructor wouldn't sign you off if you weren't ready.
2.) The examiner is not looking for an excuse to fail you... he/she wants you to
succeed.
3.) Make sure the aircraft paperwork is correct (and in the plane) and that your
paperwork is complete. You'd be surprised how often this is a problem. You
don't want to be undone by something that stupid, and no, photocopies of documents
are not acceptable.
4.) If you do screw up on a task, don't wait to be told...'fess up! Tell him you
can do it better and ask for the chance to show him. None of us are perfect.
5.) The examiner may try to distract you during a task. Remember, you are pilot
in command and responsible for the safety of the flight. Don't be afraid to
say something like "I need to focus on this maneuver. Let me finish it and then
I'll answer your question." Show that you are in control.
Just a note - if the examiner fails your engine, be sure to look underneath the
plane... there might be a grass strip nearby. Slow the airplane down to best
glide speed and don't try to stretch the glide to a unreachable field.
6.) For final preparation - I used to fly with my students to the airport where
the checkride would take place so they could get familiar with it. I would then
put them thru a typical check ride sequence returning to that airport to shoot
a few landings. I was a great confidence builder. I would also sit down
with them and do a practice oral a couple of days before their ride. We'd be
sure to review the PTS together and discuss anything they had questions about.
I never had a student fail a checkride. Most of them came back and told me that
my practice checkride was tougher than the real one.
Good luck!
Tim
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CFII
Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on fuselage
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Hi Larry,
Your question made me think of my own check ride (which was many many
years ago). I started out at Griffiss AFB where I was an aero club
member and flew to a relatively close civilian airport for the check
ride. I think the short cross country helped me get into the mood
for flying and perhaps reduced my nervous levels (if indeed I had
them in those heady days). Of course I was used to flying from a
highly controlled airport with more pattern restrictions than any
civilian airport and that made the little country airport where I
took my check ride seem simple. At Griffiss, you had to fly a
specific pattern that avoided over-flying the nuclear storage dump,
the ready line where bombers and fighters were waiting for the horn
to go off and officer housing, and at the same time share a traffic
pattern with jet fighters and bombers while dealing with rookie tower
controllers. I guess I agree that you might do will to do some
flying before the check ride to get you in the mood.
I made several mistakes on my actual check ride, but that didn't seem
to bother the examiner at all. I think the issue was whether I was a
safe pilot rather than a perfect one. None of my mistakes caused
bent metal or any bodily injury. I might have gotten lost a little
if I continued to fly away from the VOR I was suppose to be flying
toward, but again the examiner wasn't bothered at all by this.
My only advice is the same I would give to any pilot under any
situation. What ever happens the first thing you must do is fly the
plane. Nothing else really matters. When you are the pilot in
command there is nobody else to fly the plane for you. After you
manage to keep flying the plane you can spend some time to figure out
what ever issue may come second, but the first issue is and always
will be -- fly the plane.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
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At 05:14 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
>Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
>currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom
>will be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short
>field landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I
>probably will never see one again. I work graveyard in law
>enforcement and I have done a shift trade so that I will have a good
>nights sleep before the check ride. How do you get your nerves down
>before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of hours early
>and going out for a couple of take off and landings, so that I might
>calm down a little. Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I
>will be taking my check ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this
>plane my whole time training.
>
>Larry Husky
>N667H (Reserved)
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