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1. 04:46 AM - Re: Check Ride (Gary Ray)
2. 05:32 AM - Re: Check Ride (Jaybannist@cs.com)
3. 06:00 AM - Re: Check Ride (Frank Roskind)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: Check Ride (pavel569)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: Check Ride (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 06:23 AM - Re: Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
7. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
8. 07:35 AM - Re: Check Ride (Gig Giacona)
9. 08:07 AM - Aileron Balance (roger lambert)
10. 10:08 AM - Re: Aileron balance (n85ae)
11. 10:52 AM - Re: Check Ride (Robert Hansen)
12. 10:59 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 05/19/08 (Dave New)
13. 01:50 PM - Zenith CH701 Flight Manual (Ken Arnold)
14. 03:03 PM - Re: Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
15. 08:47 PM - Re: Zenith CH701 Flight Manual (Ashcraft, Keith - AES)
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Larry
It is very likely that your instructors put you thru much tougher
senarios than the check ride is going to do.
Always try to think 5-10 minutes ahead of the airplane for the routine
things that you know are coming and plan/setup how you are going to do
it at a relaxed pace. Keep looking for easy emergency fields so you are
prepared when they cut the power. During the maneuvering try to keep a
good general idea where the airport is.( ie I am 10 miles
south-southeast)
After you pass, when you fly, take the attitude, 'I am not going
anywhere unless everything is the way I want it'.(especially the
weather) Respect the minimum requirements that you have set for
yourself. If you decide too early 'I am going flying' then you will
obsess over the weather and it will be the cause of great anxiety.
Gary Ray
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From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will
never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have
done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before the
check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day! I do
plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a couple of
take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little. Has anyone
done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check ride in a 1978
172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
Larry Husky
N667H (Reserved)
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Larry,
If your instructor has signed you off to take the check ride, he or she feels that
you are ready. Your instructor has a stake in your performance since it will
reflect on his or her abilities as an instructor.
After the oral portion, you should be somewhat familiar with the examiner. That
person doesn't want to fail you. Just be sure you understand what he or she
wants you to do. Don't be afraid to ask for a repeat if you don't completely
understand. A polite "Say again" will do.
Be prepared for surprises. At about 3,000 ft, my examiner failed the engine and
said "You just lost your engine. You are above cloud cover, but there is a
hole right below and an adequate landing area right below. What do you do?" I
set up best glide speed and began a standard rate turn to the left as the airplane
descended; then went through the engine out checklist. I spiraled for about
two turns and he gave me the OK to break it off. I had never done this in
practice, but I knew what to do.
My instructor advised that I say, out loud, what I am doing: touch a control, call
out what it is and what I am doing with it, etc. That keeps you focused and
lets the examiner know that you know what you are doing.
Consider this just another instructional experience. Most examiners certainly
view it that way. If you mess up, say so and ask to do it again. You know that
you know how to fly this airplane. Just do it!
Have fun!
Jay in Dallas
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I could not agree more. When I took my checkride visiblity was really 3-4
miles,becasue of haze. The examiner asked me to cross the Chesapeake Bay,
and I told him that I thought that was not safe, as I would be out of sight
of land, with no apparent horizon, and that was a lot more like IFR than t
he checkride was supposed to simulate. I said that I would not cross such
a span without an instrument rating, as there was no way to tell if visibli
lity were to drop below minimums, and that the water and sky would become i
ndistinguishable out near the horizon, requiring me to rely on my artificia
l horizon, an inappropriate use of the instruments during the checkride. T
he examiner smiled, agrreed with me, and proceed to administer the test on
the western shore of the Chesapeake. This might not happen today with the
ADIZ, but back then there was room to do maneuvers over the Western Shore.
I passed thet test, and I am sure that one factor was the examiner's comfo
rt with my decisionmaking skills.
From: davgray@sbcglobal.netTo: zenith-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Zenith
-List: Check RideDate: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:43:19 -0400
Larry
It is very likely that your instructors put you thru much tougher senarios
than the check ride is going to do.
Always try to think 5-10 minutes ahead of the airplane for the routine th
ings that you know are coming and plan/setup how you are going to do it at
a relaxed pace. Keep looking for easy emergency fields so you are prepared
when they cut the power. During the maneuvering try to keep a good general
idea where the airport is.( ie I am 10 miles south-southeast)
After you pass, when you fly, take the attitude, 'I am not going anywhere u
nless everything is the way I want it'.(especially the weather) Respect th
e minimum requirements that you have set for yourself. If you decide too e
arly 'I am going flying' then you will obsess over the weather and it will
be the cause of great anxiety.
Gary Ray
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Hi Larry,
believe me, I know how you feel. My checkride is this Thursday, May 22nd. In my
case, I know I work the best under the pressure, so hopefully it will be true
in this case too.
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved)
Tail, flaps, ailerons done, right wing on the table ....
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You can do this,,,,, Positive attitude is your friend. Remember the chec
k pilot is just another human being and is probably forgiving and unders
tands your nervousness.. Chin up and don't dwell on the date, it is just
another day.. The next post you will make is telling us you are a new p
ilot.... You can do it !!!!!!
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
-- LHusky@aol.com wrote:
Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I current
ly have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will be appre
ciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field landings. I ha
ve VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will never see one a
gain. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have done a shift trade
so that I will have a good nights sleep before the check ride. How do
you get your nerves down before the big day! I do plan to show up a cou
ple of hours early and going out for a couple of take off and landings,
so that I might calm down a little. Has anyone done this? Is it recomm
ended? I will be taking my check ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown thi
s plane my whole time training. Larry Husky N667H (Reserved)
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WOW! All these responses really have helped me to calm down a little. I
keep in the background a lot and it is refreshing to hear and see the list on
a
positive note. This is the kind of stuff this list is for. I went out in
21 knot wind yesterday and was hitting short field landings right in the
middle. It was bumpy, but not to bad. We always have some degree of wind here.
10 to 15 knots is average for a day here in the desert. I doubt I have had
10 calm wind days in all my training. I flew ultralights for a few years and
flying in the wind bothered me. I think that is over with. I have been in
as high as 30 knot winds with my instructor and did fine, but I will not make
a practice of this on my own. My personal limits are lower. It just is not
fun in that much wind. Today is going to be light winds about 10 to 15
knots, so I plan on going out and doing some more in a different wind. Should
be
a slight cross wind also. Well, thanks again for the support and I will let
you guys know how it went after the check ride, if I decide to stay on the
ground!! Take care,
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
In a message dated 5/19/2008 8:24:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
larry@macsmachine.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Relax Larry,
The check ride is not intended to be hard, but prove that you can do
only what is asked with some competence. I'm sure you'll do fine.
Listen to the examiner and
do the best you can and you'll pass the "test" easily. Anticipation is
always takes more than the energy needed to succeed.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
> be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
> landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably
> will never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I
> have done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before
> the check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day!
> I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a
> couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little.
> Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check
> ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training. *
>
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
> *
> *
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Good luck to you Pavel! Let me know how it goes.
Larry
In a message dated 5/20/2008 6:20:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
pm569@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "pavel569" <pm569@hotmail.com>
Hi Larry,
believe me, I know how you feel. My checkride is this Thursday, May 22nd. In
my case, I know I work the best under the pressure, so hopefully it will be
true in this case too.
--------
Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved)
Tail, flaps, ailerons done, right wing on the table ....
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I had to fly about a 30 minute x-c for my first check ride. It went a long way
towards calming my nerves and put me firmly into the flying mode.
As many have already said the check pilot isn't your enemy just think of him as
another instructor you will have in a long string of instructors.
I assume you aren't the first student your instructor has sent to this guy. Ask
him about what other students have gone through. Heck, your instructor may have
had this guy as a check pilot himself.
As others have written, your instructor thinks you are ready so you are probably
ready. Go do it and enjoy it. Remember the worst day flying beat the best day
on the ground.
--------
W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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Please consider the effect of torsional stress on the aileron caused by
placing a weighted arm on one end of the aileron. Also consider that the
skin and end ribs were not designed for the placement of such weights
causing such stress in either static or dynamic conditions. Lastly, the
primary purpose of utilizing plans drawn by a design professional and
contstruction using generally approved methods is so that you have the same
product at the end of the construction process; therefore alleviating the
status of test pilot for every builder to the greatest extent possible.
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron balance |
The design rule for this for mass balanced ailerons is I believe +/- 24G
and +/-12G fore and aft. So figure out the combined weight, do the math,
and then work out the rivets and the structure.
Mass balancing ailerons certainly won't hurt, unless you fubar the structure.
You may find some change in control pressure. It is a pretty standard
design practice to do it, and even my lowly Kitfox has mass balances
on it.
I'm not an Aero engineer, but Dad has a PhD in it, so his mutterings
occasionally stick with me.
Regards,
Jeff
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Larry,=0AGood luck with the checkride. I too am in law enforcement (now a d
eputy in New Mexico). I used to work in Wyoming and took my check ride at P
rovo, UT. There are not many things that I thought could rattle me anymore,
boy was I wrong. The checkride had me shaking like the first day of the ac
ademy.-I did like some mentioned and looked at the checkride-as going u
p with an instructor. In the end I actually had fun and learned from the ol
d timer that went up with me. He even passed me after I made a "soft field"
landing. My landing would have sunk me six foot in the mud if it was soft.
- Now several years later, I still get a little nervous on my BFR's. Have
fun with the check ride and let us all know how you turn out.=0AGod Bless,
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: "LHusky@aol.com" <LHusky@aol.com>=0ATo: zenith-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:20:24 AM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride=0A
=0AWOW!- All these responses really have helped me to calm down a little.
- I keep in the background a lot and it is refreshing to hear and see the
list on a positive note.- This is the kind of stuff this list is for.-
I went out in 21 knot wind yesterday and was hitting short field landings
right in the middle.- It was bumpy, but not to bad.- We always have som
e degree of wind here.- 10 to 15 knots is average for a day here in the d
esert.- I doubt I have had 10 calm wind days in all my training.- I fle
w ultralights for a few years and flying in the wind bothered me.- I thin
k that is over with.- I have been in as high as 30 knot winds with my ins
tructor and did fine, but I will not make a practice of this on my own.-
My personal limits are lower.- It just is not fun in that much wind.- T
oday is going to be light winds about 10 to 15 knots, so I plan on going ou
t and doing some more in a different wind.- Should be a slight cross wind
also.-
Well, thanks again for the support and I will let you guys know how it wen
t after the check ride, if I decide to stay on the ground!!- Take care,
=0A-=0ALarry Husky =0AMadras, Oregon=0A-=0AIn a message dated 5/19/2008
8:24:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, larry@macsmachine.com writes:=0A--> Ze
nith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>=0A=0ARe
lax Larry,=0AThe check ride is not intended to be hard, but prove that you
can do =0Aonly what is asked with some competence.- I'm sure you'll do fi
ne.- =0AListen to the examiner and=0Ado the best you can and you'll pass
the "test" easily.- Anticipation is =0Aalways takes more than the energy
needed to succeed.=0A=0ALarry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com=0Ado
not archive=0A=0ALHusky@aol.com wrote:=0A> *Well, I have my Private Pilot c
heck ride on the 30th at 9 AM.- I =0A> currently have 63 hours in and I a
m nervous.- Any words of wisdom will =0A> be appreciated.- I am concent
rating on hood work and short field =0A> landings.- I have VOR down enoug
h to pass.- After that, I probably =0A> will never see one again.- I wo
rk graveyard in law enforcement and I =0A> have done a shift trade so that
I will have a good nights sleep before =0A> the check ride.- How do you g
et your nerves down before the big day!- =0A> I do plan to show up a coup
le of hours early and going out for a =0A> couple of take off and landings,
so that I might calm down a little.- =0A> Has anyone done this?- Is it
recommended?- I will be taking my check =0A> ride in a 1978 172N.- I h
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| Subject: | RE: Zenith-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 05/19/08 |
Truth be known. I have had times when it work OK for weeks at a time.
Them there would be days when it would only stay running for 1 hr????
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1. 06:00 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race)
2. 04:52 PM - Re: O-290 install (Ken Lilja)
3. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Hinged VS Hingless ailerons (flutter &
accidents) (Ken Lilja)
4. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Aileron balance (Ken Lilja)
5. 05:05 PM - Re: Aileron Balance (Ken Lilja)
6. 05:06 PM - Re: O-290 install (LHusky@aol.com)
7. 05:18 PM - Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
8. 05:49 PM - UPS (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
9. 05:51 PM - Re: Check Ride (pat & lyn)
10. 06:34 PM - Re: Check Ride (Michael Valentine)
11. 08:10 PM - Re: Check Ride (Bryan Ekholm)
12. 08:24 PM - Re: Check Ride (LarryMcFarland)
13. 08:32 PM - Re: Check Ride (Tim Juhl)
14. 08:34 PM - Re: Check Ride (Paul Mulwitz)
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Time: 06:00:05 AM PST US
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Room Reminder
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Time: 04:52:29 PM PST US
From: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: O-290 install
Careful, really expensive, rare and hard to find parts! The last set of
rings we bought for our run stand engine was $600 Ken
LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> Has anyone ever installed an O-290. I have one available for a great
> price, but just do not know if it is possible. My XL fuselage is
> nearing completion and I need to really get started on FWF.
>
> Larry Husky
> Madras, Oregon
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Time: 04:55:52 PM PST US
From: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Hinged VS Hingless ailerons (flutter &
accidents)
Most gap seals are only attached to 1 surface and rub over the other
(except tape or fabric seals) Ken
Ron Lendon wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> The gaps seals on the Cherokee are some type of plastic. I don't know
> how they
are attached.
>
> --------
> Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI
> Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-)
> http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183032#183032
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Time: 05:04:19 PM PST US
From: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Aileron balance
DC-9 used cables for the elevator and ailerons. "DC" = direct cable
;-) Ken do not archive
Juan Vega wrote:
> No, cables are not a primative way to move or tension the ailerons,
> check most
high performance turbine aircraft like the TBM or C-90, they use cables.
they just need to be built correctly.
>
> Juan
>
>
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Time: 05:05:17 PM PST US
From: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Aileron Balance
That looks just like the aileron balance on the Piper Cherokee series
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Roberto Brito wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
>
>
> Here is the You Tube Video about my aileron balance.
>
> This is only a way for doing this, there are of course, other ways,
> for example.
>
> I'll post some pictures to you all that need them.
>
> Please do not do this in your plane before talking to your
> Aeronautical Engineer or other authority about it.
>
> I don't want to state hereby that it is the solution to the problem on
> our Zodiacs, if any, because I'm not an aeronautical engineer.
>
> Well, when my Zodiac entered a little turbulence, the ailerons shook a
> little and after towards I had the balance performed, it enters and
> nothing happens, it became much better, more comfortable.
>
> I hope that all Zodiac Owners can solve this problem, if any.
>
> All of us know that Zodiac is a good plane, that it has a good
> reputation, but it must do away with the crashes.
>
> To end up, I have a lot of respect regarding Heintz's family and I'm
> confident that should the Zodiac have any problem they will solve it.
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_D4bt0guvM
>
>
>
> Roberto Brito.
>
> Brasil.
>
>
>
> Zodiac XL 601 w/ 190hrs
>
> Jabiru 3300
>
> Enigma
>
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Time: 05:06:10 PM PST US
From: LHusky@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: O-290 install
Thanks for the replys on the O-290. I think I will just try and find
me a runout O-200 and rebuild it. I thought I had a Corvair FWF deal,
but the guy
backed out. I will find something.
Larry
In a message dated 5/19/2008 4:53:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net writes:
Careful, really expensive, rare and hard to find parts! The last set
of rings we bought for our run stand engine was $600 Ken
_LHusky@aol.com_ (mailto:LHusky@aol.com) wrote:
Has anyone ever installed an O-290. I have one available for a great
price, but just do not know if it is possible. My XL fuselage is
nearing completion and I need to really get started on FWF.
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
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Time: 05:18:06 PM PST US
From: LHusky@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
currently
have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will be
appreciated.
I am concentrating on hood work and short field landings. I have VOR
down
enough to pass. After that, I probably will never see one again. I
work
graveyard in law enforcement and I have done a shift trade so that I
will have
a
good nights sleep before the check ride. How do you get your nerves
down
before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and
going out
for a couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a
little.
Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check
ride in a
1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
Larry Husky
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Time: 05:49:29 PM PST US
From: Afterfxllc@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: UPS
UPS Air Cargo
Just in case you need a laugh:
Remember it takes a college degree to fly a plane, but only a high
school
diploma to fix one; a reassurance to those of us who fly routinely in
our jobs.
After every flight, UPS pilots fill out a form, called a 'gripe sheet,'
which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft. The mechanics
correct
the
problems; document their repairs on the form, and then pilots review
the
gripe sheets before the next flight.
Never let it be said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are
some
actual maintenance complaints subm itted by UPS ' pilots (marked with a
P)
and the solutions recorded (marked with an S) by maintenance engineers.
By the way, UPS is the only major airline that has never, ever, had an
accident.
P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement. S:
Almost
replaced left inside main tire.
*
P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough. S: Auto-land not
installed
on this aircraft.
*
P: Something loose in cockpit S: Something tightened in cockpit
*
P: Dead bugs on windshield. S: Live bugs on back-order.
*
P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute
descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
*
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear. S: Evidence removed.
*
P: DME volume unbelievably loud. S: DME volume set to more believable
level.
*
P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick. S: That's what
friction
locks are for.
*
P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode. S: IFF always inoperative in OFF
mode.
*
P: Suspected crack in windshield S : Suspect you're right.
*
P: Number 3 engine missing. S: Engine found on right wing after brief
search
*
P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right and be serious.
*
P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.
*
P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.
*
And the best one for last
*
P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget
pounding
on something with a hammer.
S: Took hammer away from midget.
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Time: 05:51:16 PM PST US
From: "pat & lyn" <freonmen@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Ha Larry,Be happy,don't worry you'ell do fine, They are only looking out
for you and the safty of ,if U can control the air plane U will do
fine.POB PS it wasn't that longago that I was doing the same thing.
----- Original Message -----
From: LHusky@aol.com
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will
never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have
done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before the
check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day! I do
plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a couple of
take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little. Has anyone
done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check ride in a 1978
172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
Larry Husky
N667H (Reserved)
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Time: 06:34:06 PM PST US
From: "Michael Valentine" <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride
My only words of wisdom are, just listen to the examiner and make a
conscious note of what he is asking.
I took my check ride just after my 18th b-day. A couple days before I
was
taking a para-gliding class that was my graduation present and sprained
my
ankle something fierce on a bad landing. I ended up in the ER that
night
and then taking my checkride (fairly far from home and difficult to
reschedule) with a big soft boot on my foot. But hey, they let me do it
-
who needs rudder in a 172 anyway. The one mistake I remember is that
the
examiner said turn to XXX heading. I started turning that way in a nice
standard-rate turn. At some point I realized I had absolutely no idea
what
heading he had asked for. About that time he asked where I was going.
I
was at about 135 turning left so I just said 130??? He corrected my
heading
and let it go. I really don't remember anything else.
Above all, have fun and good luck.
Michael in NH
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On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:14 PM, <LHusky@aol.com> wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
be
> appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
landings. I
> have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably will never see
one
> again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I have done a shift
trade so
> that I will have a good nights sleep before the check ride. How do
you get
> your nerves down before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of
hours
> early and going out for a couple of take off and landings, so that I
might
> calm down a little. Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will
be
> taking my check ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole
time
> training. *
> **
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
> *
>
>
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Time: 08:10:10 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Check Ride
From: "Bryan Ekholm" <bryanekholm@excite.com>
Most likely you will have an oral questioning period with your examiner
before
you go flying. Be prepared for that. I had to have a cross-country
trip of so
many nautical miles (I don't recall how far) planned out as well.
Arriving
early is a good plan. I intended to arrive early when I took my
check-ride, but
ended up being late because another student arrived back late with the
airplane
and left me with no fuel. Then I had to fly to another airport to meet
the
examiner as well. Make sure your chart is current. You'll do fine.
Bryan Ekholm
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Time: 08:24:03 PM PST US
From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Relax Larry,
The check ride is not intended to be hard, but prove that you can do
only what is asked with some competence. I'm sure you'll do fine.
Listen to the examiner and
do the best you can and you'll pass the "test" easily. Anticipation is
always takes more than the energy needed to succeed.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
> be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
> landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably
> will never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I
> have done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before
> the check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day!
> I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a
> couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little.
> Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check
> ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training.
*
>
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
> *
> *
> *
________________________________ Message 13
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Time: 08:32:24 PM PST US
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Check Ride
From: "Tim Juhl" <juhl@avci.net>
Larry,
First of all, congrats on your accomplishment, I'm sure you'll do fine.
That said,
here are a few points to remember:
1.) Your instructor wouldn't sign you off if you weren't ready.
2.) The examiner is not looking for an excuse to fail you... he/she
wants you to
succeed.
3.) Make sure the aircraft paperwork is correct (and in the plane) and
that your
paperwork is complete. You'd be surprised how often this is a problem.
You
don't want to be undone by something that stupid, and no, photocopies of
documents
are not acceptable.
4.) If you do screw up on a task, don't wait to be told...'fess up!
Tell him you
can do it better and ask for the chance to show him. None of us are
perfect.
5.) The examiner may try to distract you during a task. Remember, you
are pilot
in command and responsible for the safety of the flight. Don't be
afraid to
say something like "I need to focus on this maneuver. Let me finish it
and then
I'll answer your question." Show that you are in control.
Just a note - if the examiner fails your engine, be sure to look
underneath the
plane... there might be a grass strip nearby. Slow the airplane down
to best
glide speed and don't try to stretch the glide to a unreachable field.
6.) For final preparation - I used to fly with my students to the
airport where
the checkride would take place so they could get familiar with it. I
would then
put them thru a typical check ride sequence returning to that airport to
shoot
a few landings. I was a great confidence builder. I would also sit
down
with them and do a practice oral a couple of days before their ride.
We'd be
sure to review the PTS together and discuss anything they had questions
about.
I never had a student fail a checkride. Most of them came back and told
me that
my practice checkride was tougher than the real one.
Good luck!
Tim
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Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
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Time: 08:34:59 PM PST US
From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride
Hi Larry,
Your question made me think of my own check ride (which was many many
years ago). I started out at Griffiss AFB where I was an aero club
member and flew to a relatively close civilian airport for the check
ride. I think the short cross country helped me get into the mood
for flying and perhaps reduced my nervous levels (if indeed I had
them in those heady days). Of course I was used to flying from a
highly controlled airport with more pattern restrictions than any
civilian airport and that made the little country airport where I
took my check ride seem simple. At Griffiss, you had to fly a
specific pattern that avoided over-flying the nuclear storage dump,
the ready line where bombers and fighters were waiting for the horn
to go off and officer housing, and at the same time share a traffic
pattern with jet fighters and bombers while dealing with rookie tower
controllers. I guess I agree that you might do will to do some
flying before the check ride to get you in the mood.
I made several mistakes on my actual check ride, but that didn't seem
to bother the examiner at all. I think the issue was whether I was a
safe pilot rather than a perfect one. None of my mistakes caused
bent metal or any bodily injury. I might have gotten lost a little
if I continued to fly away from the VOR I was suppose to be flying
toward, but again the examiner wasn't bothered at all by this.
My only advice is the same I would give to any pilot under any
situation. What ever happens the first thing you must do is fly the
plane. Nothing else really matters. When you are the pilot in
command there is nobody else to fly the plane for you. After you
manage to keep flying the plane you can spend some time to figure out
what ever issue may come second, but the first issue is and always
will be -- fly the plane.
Good luck,
Paul
XL fuselage
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At 05:14 PM 5/19/2008, you wrote:
>Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
>currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom
>will be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short
>field landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I
>probably will never see one again. I work graveyard in law
>enforcement and I have done a shift trade so that I will have a good
>nights sleep before the check ride. How do you get your nerves down
>before the big day! I do plan to show up a couple of hours early
>and going out for a couple of take off and landings, so that I might
>calm down a little. Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I
>will be taking my check ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this
>plane my whole time training.
>
>Larry Husky
>N667H (Reserved)
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Hi,
Computer failure with lack of back up resulted in some lost files. I
would like to get copy of Czech Flight Manual. Keith Ashcraft published
one in July 03.
Many thanks,
Ken Arnold
Pikeville, NC
N701LK w/912ULS flying
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Well, if I do as well as I did in the academy, I will be good. I graduated
with a 98%. I got a 97% on my knowledge test. I know what you mean by
rattled. I have been in some pretty hairy situations, but put an instructor next
to me in an airplane, it seems to be worse. The good part is I know the
examiner. I have watched a few checkrides. He is a really nice guy. Got to
go
fly!
Larry
In a message dated 5/20/2008 10:53:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
stol701@yahoo.com writes:
Larry,
Good luck with the checkride. I too am in law enforcement (now a deputy in
New Mexico). I used to work in Wyoming and took my check ride at Provo, UT.
There are not many things that I thought could rattle me anymore, boy was I
wrong. The checkride had me shaking like the first day of the academy. I did
like some mentioned and looked at the checkride as going up with an instructor.
In the end I actually had fun and learned from the old timer that went up
with me. He even passed me after I made a "soft field" landing. My landing would
have sunk me six foot in the mud if it was soft. Now several years later, I
still get a little nervous on my BFR's. Have fun with the check ride and let
us all know how you turn out.
God Bless,
Rob
Building away on my 701
----- Original Message ----
From: "LHusky@aol.com" <LHusky@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:20:24 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Check Ride
WOW! All these responses really have helped me to calm down a little. I
keep in the background a lot and it is refreshing to hear and see the list on
a
positive note. This is the kind of stuff this list is for. I went out in
21 knot wind yesterday and was hitting short field landings right in the
middle. It was bumpy, but not to bad. We always have some degree of wind here.
10 to 15 knots is average for a day here in the desert. I doubt I have had
10 calm wind days in all my training. I flew ultralights for a few years and
flying in the wind bothered me. I think that is over with. I have been in
as high as 30 knot winds with my instructor and did fine, but I will not make
a practice of this on my own. My personal limits are lower. It just is not
fun in that much wind. Today is going to be light winds about 10 to 15
knots, so I plan on going out and doing some more in a different wind. Should
be
a slight cross wind also. Well, thanks again for the support and I will let
you guys know how it went after the check ride, if I decide to stay on the
ground!! Take care,
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
In a message dated 5/19/2008 8:24:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
larry@macsmachine.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
Relax Larry,
The check ride is not intended to be hard, but prove that you can do
only what is asked with some competence. I'm sure you'll do fine.
Listen to the examiner and
do the best you can and you'll pass the "test" easily. Anticipation is
always takes more than the energy needed to succeed.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at _www.macsmachine.com_ (http://www.macsmachine.com/)
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LHusky@aol.com wrote:
> *Well, I have my Private Pilot check ride on the 30th at 9 AM. I
> currently have 63 hours in and I am nervous. Any words of wisdom will
> be appreciated. I am concentrating on hood work and short field
> landings. I have VOR down enough to pass. After that, I probably
> will never see one again. I work graveyard in law enforcement and I
> have done a shift trade so that I will have a good nights sleep before
> the check ride. How do you get your nerves down before the big day!
> I do plan to show up a couple of hours early and going out for a
> couple of take off and landings, so that I might calm down a little.
> Has anyone done this? Is it recommended? I will be taking my check
> ride in a 1978 172N. I have flown this plane my whole time training. *
>
> Larry Husky
> N667H (Reserved)
> *
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Hey Ken,
What is your address. I will send you what I got directly!!
Keith
(TDY in Alameda,CA wishing I was home plane building !!)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Ken Arnold
Sent: Tue 5/20/2008 2:47 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith CH701 Flight Manual
Hi,
Computer failure with lack of back up resulted in some lost files. I would
like to get copy of Czech Flight Manual. Keith Ashcraft published one in
July 03.
Many thanks,
Ken Arnold
Pikeville, NC
N701LK w/912ULS flying
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