---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/05/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: spark plugs and rain (ashontz) 2. 06:19 AM - Re: 701 battery (Geoff Heap) 3. 06:50 AM - Re: Zenith Builder (Scotsman) 4. 07:46 AM - BRS (Darrell Haas) 5. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: spark plugs and rain (Gary Gower) 6. 10:41 AM - Re: 601xl/Jab3300 battery (Elden Jacobson) 7. 11:13 AM - Re: BRS (Iberplanes IGL) 8. 02:53 PM - battery for Jab 3300 (THOMAS SMALL) 9. 03:06 PM - Re: battery for Jab 3300 (DaveG601XL) 10. 05:19 PM - Canopy Cover For Sale (LYNN WELSCH) 11. 05:54 PM - chargers for Odyssey (THOMAS SMALL) 12. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: battery for Jab 3300 (Juan Vega) 13. 06:16 PM - Re: 601xl/Jab3300 battery (Juan Vega) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:57 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain From: "ashontz" Larry, the plugs themselves aren't a problem. More likely any problem spots would be water somehow making it's way into the distributor or under the boots of the wires. The distributor should have a nice o-ring under the cap, should come from the factory tht way, as far as the pulg wire boots, I believe AutoZone sells stuff, some sort of gel, that you can put on the plug tips before installing the wire to help keep them from getting dirty and corroded. I've had old distributors in my pickup that have given me trouble on rainy days (I guess it was just the humidity or maybe some water managed to splash up from the street). Anyway, car ran fine after it warmed up long enough to heat the distributor a bit, but ran rough up till that point. The problem was a worn corroded looking cap contacts as well as rotor contact, that thing was all corroded looking too. Granted, that was just age, but it did act up when it was wet out, and probably how it managed to age rapidly to begin with. I changed the wires for good measure at the time too. Anyway, short answer, water can affect the ignition system, but less of a chance if you have the boots and cap sealed well, the plugs themselves should be fine, but I believe there's a product you can apply to the threads to help out too. Just put it on your list of things to check once a year, pull the cap and check out the rotor and cap contacts and plug boots. I'd imagine you'd be pulling the plugs once a year anyway to see what's going on inside. -------- Andy Shontz do not archive CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186341#186341 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:26 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 701 battery From: "Geoff Heap" Battery, Recombinant Gas, 12V, Concorde http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/ElectricalSystem/Battery-Concorde.html I think the model is CB25RG listing at $185 today....Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186353#186353 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:15 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith Builder From: "Scotsman" Does this come naturally to you....if so seek help. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186356#186356 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:08 AM PST US From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: Zenith-List: BRS Thank you all for your advice and pictures regarding the BRS. This list is great. Darrell 601XL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:10 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain One of the big problems (at least in cars)  for water in the distributor,  is that the vapor from the water in the muffler  gets inside the dist cap and make an electric arc.  will not get the spark to the spark plugs.   Some kind of spray or something betwen the distributor and the Dist cup needed  to prevent this.   Saludos Gary Gower --- On Thu, 6/5/08, ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> wrote: From: ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org> Larry, the plugs themselves aren't a problem. More likely any problem spots would be water somehow making it's way into the distributor or under the boots of the wires. The distributor should have a nice o-ring under the cap, should come from the factory tht way, as far as the pulg wire boots, I believe AutoZone sells stuff, some sort of gel, that you can put on the plug tips before installing the wire to help keep them from getting dirty and corroded. I've had old distributors in my pickup that have given me trouble on rainy days (I guess it was just the humidity or maybe some water managed to splash up from the street). Anyway, car ran fine after it warmed up long enough to heat the distributor a bit, but ran rough up till that point. The problem was a worn corroded looking cap contacts as well as rotor contact, that thing was all corroded looking too. Granted, that was just age, but it did act up when it was wet out, and probably how it managed to age rapidly to begin wit! h. I changed the wires for good measure at the time too. Anyway, short answer, water can affect the ignition system, but less of a chance if you have the boots and cap sealed well, the plugs themselves should be fine, but I believe there's a product you can apply to the threads to help out too. Just put it on your list of things to check once a year, pull the cap and check out the rotor and cap contacts and plug boots. I'd imagine you'd be pulling the plugs once a year anyway to see what's going on inside. -------- Andy Shontz do not archive CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186341#186341 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:44 AM PST US From: Elden Jacobson Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl/Jab3300 battery Being near the point of installing the engine, I'd like to know what battery options the rest of you have chosen, and how well they seem to work.   Elden Jacobson (do not archive) --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain One of the big problems (at least in cars)  for water in the distributor,  is that the vapor from the water in the muffler  gets inside the dist cap and make an electric arc.  will not get the spark to the spark plugs.   Some kind of spray or something betwen the distributor and the Dist cup needed  to prevent this.   Saludos Gary Gower --- On Thu, 6/5/08, ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> wrote: From: ashontz <ashontz@nbme.org> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ashontz" <ashontz@nbme.org> Larry, the plugs themselves aren't a problem. More likely any problem spots would be water somehow making it's way into the distributor or under the boots of the wires. The distributor should have a nice o-ring under the cap, should come from the factory tht way, as far as the pulg wire boots, I believe AutoZone sells stuff, some sort of gel, that you can put on the plug tips before installing the wire to help keep them from getting dirty and corroded. I've had old distributors in my pickup that have given me trouble on rainy days (I guess it was just the humidity or maybe some water managed to splash up from the street). Anyway, car ran fine after it warmed up long enough to heat the distributor a bit, but ran rough up till that point. The problem was a worn corroded looking cap contacts as well as rotor contact, that thing was all corroded looking too. Granted, that was just age, but it did act up when it was wet out, and probably how it managed to age rapidly to begin wit! h. I changed the wires for good measure at the time too. Anyway, short answer, water can affect the ignition system, but less of a chance if you have the boots and cap sealed well, the plugs themselves should be fine, but I believe there's a product you can apply to the threads to help out too. Just put it on your list of things to check once a year, pull the cap and check out the rotor and cap contacts and plug boots. I'd imagine you'd be pulling the plugs once a year anyway to see what's going on inside. -------- Andy Shontz do not archive CH601XL - Corvair www.mykitlog.com/ashontz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186341#186341 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:24 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: BRS Your welcome, just remember to ask Caleb at ZAC to send you a copy of the installation manual, on PDF Take care, Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain 2008/6/5, Darrell Haas : > > Thank you all for your advice and pictures regarding the BRS. This > list is great. > Darrell > 601XL > > -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:34 PM PST US From: "THOMAS SMALL" Subject: Zenith-List: battery for Jab 3300 Being near the point of installing the engine, I'd like to know what battery options the rest of you have chosen, and how well they seem to work. Elden, Would highly recommend an Odyssey, either the 625 or, if you can take a bit more weight, the 680. While you're at it buy the charger specially formatted for these two. I fooled around with a cheap Helios 17amphr for a few years and would always cross my fingers with cold wx starts. Finally got a 625 with the charger and that battery can spin a cold Jabby like Hillary can spin a tale of sniper fire. Now, like the V8 juice commericial, I smack myself in the noggin every time I begin the start routine in the a/c. Please ignore my little political comment...jeff HDS/3300 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:13 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: battery for Jab 3300 From: "DaveG601XL" Jeff, Curious on what is the charger 'specially formatted' for this battery? I plan on using the Battery Tender brand of battery maintainers like I do on my motorcycle. I think this one works pretty well on these RG batteries. Thanks, -------- David Gallagher 601 XL, working on final assembly. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186419#186419 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:39 PM PST US From: LYNN WELSCH Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Cover For Sale Bruce's canopy cover for XL for sale. Three years old. In good condition (aircraft hangered when not in use). $200 plus shipping. Philip Welsch - prwelsch@hughes.net. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:08 PM PST US From: "THOMAS SMALL" Subject: Zenith-List: chargers for Odyssey http://www.odysseybatteries.com/charging.htm http://www.odysseybatteries.com/accessories/omax.htm Dave, I have the OMAX-6A-1B charger and love, love, love it. When the hangar drops to the low 30's it is nice to know that a quick boost charge will be on in the 15 minutes it takes to run the ceramic cube heater (blown up bottom of cowl onto carby) and the preflight. In 20 degree outdoor temps the 625 cranks nicely. jeff ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:52 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: battery for Jab 3300 the jab 3300 is pretty much a motorcycle battery so a charger/ maintainer from SEARs is what has worked great for mine. Juan -----Original Message----- >From: DaveG601XL >Sent: Jun 5, 2008 6:03 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: battery for Jab 3300 > > >Jeff, > >Curious on what is the charger 'specially formatted' for this battery? I plan on using the Battery Tender brand of battery maintainers like I do on my motorcycle. I think this one works pretty well on these RG batteries. > >Thanks, > >-------- >David Gallagher >601 XL, working on final assembly. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186419#186419 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:10 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl/Jab3300 battery gewl aviation battery little bigger than the standard one since my panel ways little i wanted more center CG on the plane so battery the next size up. . A concorde Sealed battery is best bang for the buck. Juan 601xl/Jab 3300 -----Original Message----- >From: Elden Jacobson >Sent: Jun 5, 2008 1:31 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl/Jab3300 battery > >Being near the point of installing the engine, I'd like to know what battery options the rest of you have chosen, and how well they seem to work. > >Elden Jacobson >(do not archive) > >--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Gary Gower wrote: > >From: Gary Gower >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 12:58 AM > > >One of the big problems (at least in cars) for water in the distributor, is that the vapor from the water in the mufflergets inside the dist cap and make an electric arc. will not get the spark to the spark plugs. Some kind of spray or something betwen the distributor and the Dist cup needed to prevent this. > >Saludos >Gary Gower > >--- On Thu, 6/5/08, ashontz wrote: > >From: ashontz >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: spark plugs and rain >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Date: Thursday, June 5, 2008, 7:40 AM > > > >Larry, the plugs themselves aren't a problem. More likely any problem spots >would be water somehow making it's way into the distributor or under the >boots of the wires. The distributor should have a nice o-ring under the cap, >should come from the factory tht way, as far as the pulg wire boots, I believe >AutoZone sells stuff, some sort of gel, that you can put on the plug tips >before installing the wire to help keep them from getting dirty and corroded. >I've had old distributors in my pickup that have given me trouble on rainy >days (I guess it was just the humidity or maybe some water managed to splash up >from the street). Anyway, car ran fine after it warmed up long enough to heat >the distributor a bit, but ran rough up till that point. The problem was a worn >corroded looking cap contacts as well as rotor contact, that thing was all >corroded looking too. Granted, that was just age, but it did act up when it was >wet out, and probably how it managed to age rapidly to begin wit! > h. I changed the wires for good measure at the time too. Anyway, short answer, >water can affect the ignition system, but less of a chance if you have the boots >and cap sealed well, the plugs themselves should be fine, but I believe >there's a product you can apply to the threads to help out too. Just put it >on your list of things to check once a year, pull the cap and check out the >rotor and cap contacts and plug boots. I'd imagine you'd be pulling the >plugs once a year anyway to see what's going on inside. > >-------- >Andy Shontz > >do not archive > >CH601XL - Corvair >www.mykitlog.com/ashontz > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186341#186341 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.