---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/09/08: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:13 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 2. 01:23 AM - Fractured Ring Gears (Aerolitellc@aol.com) 3. 05:51 AM - 601XL/Corvair Guys, How do you like your engine? (mcjon77) 4. 06:24 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race) 5. 06:53 AM - Re: wing stiffeners (Geoff Heap) 6. 07:46 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions (Jim McBurney) 7. 08:35 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions (LarryMcFarland) 8. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: getting the engine from the crate to the firewall (Alex MacKay) 9. 10:36 AM - C-145 lifter body specs. (Randy L. Thwing) 10. 11:23 AM - Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions (ronlee) 11. 12:13 PM - Happy Flying 601XL (japhillipsga@aol.com) 12. 12:42 PM - Re: Happy Flying 601XL (Carlos Sa) 13. 01:01 PM - Re: Happy Flying 601XL (Paul Mulwitz) 14. 02:00 PM - Re: Happy Flying 601XL (cookwithgas) 15. 02:23 PM - Re: Re: Happy Flying 601XL (Craig Payne) 16. 02:33 PM - Re: Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions (Graeme Bell) 17. 03:03 PM - Re: Happy Flying 601XL (Gig Giacona) 18. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Happy Flying 601XL (Juan Vega) 19. 05:39 PM - Re: Re: Happy Flying 601XL (steve) 20. 06:57 PM - question for Juan (THOMAS SMALL) 21. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: Happy Flying 601XL (LHusky@aol.com) 22. 07:34 PM - fuselage measurements (Brad Cohen) 23. 07:50 PM - Re: fuselage measurements (Cndmovn) 24. 11:32 PM - fuel injected 912 is running now (jason Parker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:13:40 AM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions Ours fell apart after about 10 hours (couldn't find any of the bearings) if it is the same one piece bearing. If you have the small axle I would call zenith and upgrade to the bearings that comes with the new kits. They use thicker axles and better bearings and I think the axle is only like 8 bucks. Jeff All I've been working on the nose gear and pulled the Matco Wheel out for a test fit (kit is from Nov 2005) The included bearings have the name Azusua on them and are stamped made in China. Any issues with these wheels / bearings that anyone would care to comment on?? And while we're at it, What grease should I pack them with and how often should I repack them? Thanks in Advance Larry 601XL **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:16 AM PST US From: Aerolitellc@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Fractured Ring Gears I have just received my first batch of ring gears. I know some have cracks in theirs and were waiting. On the web site _http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/RingGear.html_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/RingGear.html) Jeff **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:51:00 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL/Corvair Guys, How do you like your engine? From: "mcjon77" Hi guys, I am new here and am considering using the Corvair as a power-plant for either a 601XL or another aircraft. I wanted to know from the guys with experience with them (no matter how much or how little) what have your experiences been? How is the reliability and maintenance issues? Have you had any engine out situations? Any info from users would be appreciated. Thanks, Jon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186955#186955 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:49 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Room Reminder Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 Registered as N73EX Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:15 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: wing stiffeners From: "Geoff Heap" I fitted the (false ribs) "L"s between each rib, top and bottom skin. Forming the Top skin "L"s to the Top skin is kid stuff. You only have to be close with the bend. Even when you put cleco's in you will see that it pulls in to fit the airfoil shape....Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=186972#186972 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:09 AM PST US From: "Jim McBurney" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions Hi, Larry (McFarland) and List, I've always used wheel bearing grease to pack this type of bearing, mostly on automotive front wheel bearings. They definitely get more use than airplane wheels. Seems to me that white lithium might break down sooner. What say you? Do not archive Blue skies and tailwinds Jim CH-801 DeltaHawk diesel Augusta GA 90% done, 90% left ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:04 AM PST US From: LarryMcFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions Hi Jim, Lithium is additive to lubricating grease to raise temperature tolerance and maintain viscosity. It doesn't absorb water and is non corrosive unlike some general products sold as wheel and bearing grease. I don't think the stuff breaks down if you clean and repack with any regularity. I check mine at annual inspection, but my bearings are sealed both sides, so I will be replacing the bearings within a 5 year period. Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com Jim McBurney wrote: > > Hi, Larry (McFarland) and List, > > I've always used wheel bearing grease to pack this type of bearing, mostly > on automotive front wheel bearings. They definitely get more use than > airplane wheels. Seems to me that white lithium might break down sooner. > What say you? > > Do not archive > > Blue skies and tailwinds > > Jim > CH-801 > DeltaHawk diesel > Augusta GA > 90% done, 90% left > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:56 AM PST US From: Alex MacKay Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: getting the engine from the crate to the firewall Thanks for all the helpful suggestions! I will be getting a shop crane for moving the engine around. Alex MacKay 601HDS/3300 do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:09 AM PST US From: "Randy L. Thwing" Subject: Zenith-List: C-145 lifter body specs. Hello all: We're overhauling a C-145 Cont. in our EAA affiliated Flying Club airplane. Our Lifter bodies (cam followers?) are in near perfect shape including the faces which engage the cam. We want to just lightly touch the lifter faces for renewal. Could someone please advise what coarseness (grit?) of stone or wheel would be appropriate for this? We have run a dial indicator over the face and it is not flat. The center of the face is 3 to 5 thousandths higher than the edge. This appears to be a straight, rather than radius (concave?) cut across the lifter face. Do we have that right? Can anyone advise what are the Continental specifications for renewing the lifter face? Angles etc. We have a lot of machine shop capability. Any help is greatly appreciated. Regards, Randy, Las Vegas Chapter 163 flying club. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions From: "ronlee" I think you are looking at a sealed ball bearing as that is what my 701 has and not a tapered bearing the would need to be preloaded. If you preloaded the sealed ball bearings (pinch the bearings together) they will fail soon. When all is in place you should have some end play to each side on the wheel. If you don't and it is preloaded as you would a tapered roller bearing it will certainly fail soon. Do not preload the mains either, give them a bit of space. A little space will allow the brake pads to be pushed back from the rotars a bit which will ease the friction on the pads and allow a more free wheeling on take off, thats good! Alot of this was gone through some time ago. I'm sure it is in the archives somewhere. Ron Lee -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187004#187004 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:43 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Happy Flying 601XL From: japhillipsga@aol.com Dear Fellow Builders and Flyers, I am sure tired, bored?and bothered by all the discord concerning our planes and our feelings and such. So to make those that can care I'll relay this story. I have been so busy with work, family and commitments over the last few months my flying time has been sharply curtailed. But last evening a fellow from up north of?Atlanta thinking about building an XL wanted to drive down (about 2 hours one way) just to set in my plane. So at at 5:00 there he was at the hanger and I certainly enjoyed the opportunity to show off "Babe Doll." He had not built a plane and as a rather large fellow was concerned about how he would fit inside. After about an hour my new friend departed. I was tired and hunger, but it had started to cool down and no wind at all as the sun was slipping so I pre-flighted and pulled her out. The Jab purred to life happily and tugged on me to go even before the oil temps got up. Down 30 we went and lifting off gave a cooling blast of air. Up to 4K she drove at only about 1000 fpm. Density attitude being the griping hand she was fighting. I sailed around for a while looking at the pine forests getting darker and a few house lights flicker. Tapped the cht to confirm # 4 had dropped under 300 degrees and just enjoy the evening air. Hardy anybody was on the air and I felt so proud of the XL and what she was allowing me to do with her. I zipped back to the field and dead sticked back in just as it was turning dark. As I flaired the field lights came up and the instant I touched I knew I just had to have a couple more landings. I just was not ready to end the pleasure the 601XL was providing. I pushed power, the AOA LRI said she would fly and I released forward pressure on the stick and up we zoomed. I made a couple more Touch and Go's and each touch was a whisper. It was such a lingering rush. As I taxied back to the hanger in the dark, hearing the Jab protest and seeing the reflecting light of the strobe s I was reassured I had built a good plane, that flying is the best thing you can do with your clothes on and all was right with the world. Folks, build your planes and enjoy them. Best wishes from Bill of Georgia? -----Original Message----- From: Randy L. Thwing Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 1:31 pm Subject: Zenith-List: C-145 lifter body specs. Hello all: ? We're overhauling a C-145 Cont. in our EAA affiliated Flying Club airplane. ? Our Lifter bodies (cam followers?) are in near perfect shape including the faces which engage the cam. ? We want to just lightly touch the lifter faces for renewal. ? Could someone please advise what coarseness (grit?) of stone or wheel?would be appropriate for this? ? We have run a dial indicator over the face and it is not flat.? The center of the face is 3 to 5 thousandths higher than the edge. ? This appears to be a straight, rather than radius (concave?) cut across the lifter face.? Do we have that right? ? Can anyone advise what are the Continental specifications for renewing the lifter face?? Angles etc. ? We have a lot of machine shop capability.? Any help is greatly appreciated. ? Regards, ? Randy, Las Vegas ? Chapter 163 flying club. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:44 PM PST US From: "Carlos Sa" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Happy Flying 601XL Bill, thanks a lot for this posting... we need more like this ! Carlos CH601-HD, plans tail feathers and right wing done, assembling left wing. do not archive 2008/6/9 : > ... I just was not ready to end the pleasure the 601XL was providing. I > pushed power, the AOA LRI said she would fly and I released forward pressure > on the stick and up we zoomed. I made a couple more Touch and Go's and each > touch was a whisper. It was such a lingering rush. As I taxied back to the > hanger in the dark, hearing the Jab protest and seeing the reflecting ligh t > of the strobes I was reassured I had built a good plane, that flyi ng is the > best thing you can do with your clothes on and all was right with the world. > Folks, build your planes and enjoy them. Best wishes from Bill of Georgia > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:29 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Happy Flying 601XL Thanks, Bill A truly inspiring story. Paul XL fuselage do not archive At 12:10 PM 6/9/2008, you wrote: >Dear Fellow Builders and Flyers, I am sure tired, bored and bothered >by all the discord concerning our planes and our feelings and such. >So to make those that can care I'll relay this story. I have been so >busy with work, family and commitments over the last few months my >flying time has been sharply curtailed. But last evening a fellow >from up north of Atlanta thinking about building an XL wanted to >drive down (about 2 hours one way) just to set in my plane. So at at >5:00 there he was at the hanger and I certainly enjoyed the >opportunity to show off "Babe Doll." He had not built a plane and as >a rather large fellow was concerned about how he would fit inside. >After about an hour my new friend departed. I was tired and hunger, >but it had started to cool down and no wind at all as the sun was >slipping so I pre-flighted and pulled her out. The Jab purred to >life happily and tugged on me to go even before the oil temps got >up. Down 30 we went and lifting off gave a cooling blast of air. Up >to 4K she drove at only about 1000 fpm. Density attitude being the >griping hand she was fighting. I sailed around for a while looking >at the pine forests getting darker and a few house lights flicker. >Tapped the cht to confirm # 4 had dropped under 300 degrees and just >enjoy the evening air. Hardy anybody was on the air and I felt so >proud of the XL and what she was allowing me to do with her. I >zipped back to the field and dead sticked back in just as it was >turning dark. As I flaired the field lights came up and the instant >I touched I knew I just had to have a couple more landings. I just >was not ready to end the pleasure the 601XL was providing. I pushed >power, the AOA LRI said she would fly and I released forward >pressure on the stick and up we zoomed. I made a couple more Touch >and Go's and each touch was a whisper. It was such a lingering rush. >As I taxied back to the hanger in the dark, hearing the Jab protest >and seeing the reflecting ligh t of the strobes I was reassured I >had built a good plane, that flyi ng is the best thing you can do >with your clothes on and all was right with the world. Folks, build >your planes and enjoy them. Best wishes from Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:10 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL From: "cookwithgas" Scott Laughlin checking in here. Bill, I was just thinking similar thoughts when I opened up your email. I just had a similar experience. This morning the weather looked favorable for a change so I skipped work and met a flight instructor at my hangar and fired up the Corvair/601XL. It just flew so well and for two hours I did 15 landings and take-offs. It was a sunny day with a 4kt crosswind and it was pure joy. I used full flaps on every landing. I'm really bonding with my 601XL. It is all becoming second nature to me to fly and land this thing. I'm expecting to solo the next time we get some good weather here in Nebraska - hopefully later in the week. I filled her up with some $4.90 a gallon blue gas and tucked her away in anticipation of some more flight time this week. That will bring me one more dream-come-true for my first solo to be in the airplane I built in my garage. For the builders still working on an XL, keep building and dreaming because the airplane is a real joy to fly. Thanks Bill for sharing your experience - it's great to hear some good news on this list. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska 601XL/Corvair Finished & Flying, 63.5 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187019#187019 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:43 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL Scott - are you going to be at Oshkosh? Are you going to fly your XL to Oshkosh? -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cookwithgas Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL Scott Laughlin checking in here. Bill, I was just thinking similar thoughts when I opened up your email. I just had a similar experience. This morning the weather looked favorable for a change so I skipped work and met a flight instructor at my hangar and fired up the Corvair/601XL. It just flew so well and for two hours I did 15 landings and take-offs. It was a sunny day with a 4kt crosswind and it was pure joy. I used full flaps on every landing. I'm really bonding with my 601XL. It is all becoming second nature to me to fly and land this thing. I'm expecting to solo the next time we get some good weather here in Nebraska - hopefully later in the week. I filled her up with some $4.90 a gallon blue gas and tucked her away in anticipation of some more flight time this week. That will bring me one more dream-come-true for my first solo to be in the airplane I built in my garage. For the builders still working on an XL, keep building and dreaming because the airplane is a real joy to fly. Thanks Bill for sharing your experience - it's great to hear some good news on this list. Scott Laughlin Omaha, Nebraska 601XL/Corvair Finished & Flying, 63.5 hours Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187019#187019 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:33:24 PM PST US From: "Graeme Bell" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions Straight sealed bearings will fail with side load. I modified my wheels by making a spacer to keep the inner part of the bearing in the correct position. this would also spread the side load over both bearings, With out a spacer the correct tension is guess work. Graemecns ----- Original Message ----- From: "ronlee" Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:20 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Nose Wheel Bearings Questions I think you are looking at a sealed ball bearing as that is what my 701 has and not a tapered bearing the would need to be preloaded. If you preloaded the sealed ball bearings (pinch the bearings together) they will fail soon. When all is in place you should have some end play to each side on the wheel. If you don't and it is preloaded as you would a tapered roller bearing it will certainly fail soon. Do not preload the mains either, give them a bit of space. A little space will allow the brake pads to be pushed back from the rotars a bit which will ease the friction on the pads and allow a more free wheeling on take off, thats good! Alot of this was gone through some time ago. I'm sure it is in the archives somewhere. Ron Lee -------- Ron Lee Tucson, Arizona Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187004#187004 -- Checked by AVG. 17:36 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:42 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL From: "Gig Giacona" I really hate you guys that have completed your build. I look so forward to finishing a day of work and being able to head out to the airport for a few laps around the pattern in the plane I built. Keep up the flying and feel free to fill my e-mail box with stories like these anytime the mood strikes. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187026#187026 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:39:14 PM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL All; I recently took a great flight i 'd thought to share. Last saterday was a great day to fly, however daddy duties gobbled most of the day. After dinner the air became calm with 10 mile vis. With only 30 minutes of sun, i decided to go any way. Arriving at th airport I did the usual preflight, check all bolts, check oil, vis check on gas quantity. Right tank had a good 10 gallons in it so hopping in i switched to that tank. It was 10 minutes to sunset so on came the strobes and nav lights. I also have a 2 foot long neck light that i put red tinnt glass on for in flight cabin lighting. Turning the engine to start , and she cranked up to her usual 800 rpm purrr. Canopy shut, I did run up, checked the Jabiru mags for their 20 rpm drop, and was cleared for take off. I turned the Transponder to active, fuel [pump on, and accerlated at 2850 rpm to 51 mph, and hit Vy 65. Up we climbed Rivet and I, at 74 mph at 1100 ft per mintue into the still Florida air. shutting the fuel pump off, i cleared to switch frequency and monitored the Tampa Control TCA . headed out towards the gulf of mexico to watch the sun set. Leveling off, I hit the dimmer on the Dynons, and th cabin was filled with a nice comfortable glow. At 5500 ft I trimmed for 125 mph and set the plane for 5 gal/hr burn at lean of peak EGT, settling in as the sun set. Watching that sun go down in the best seat in the house! stayed up in the still air at 5500 ft out over the gulf for 1 hr after sunset. and called in the tower for landing." 427JV you are 8 miles west inbound for runway 7, cleared to land, winds 120 at 1. Yes, 1. altimeter 30.08." I repeated everything back and trimmed for 95 and set the rpm at 2100. PLane decended at 550 per minute, and set for night landing, trim, throttle set, flap at below 80 mph, trim for speed, and lower to 1600 rpm. Landing light on and theere popped the runway. Greased her in holding the nose off until 20 mph, then she settled the nose. and put her away for the night. I went home and slept like a baby. Juan -----Original Message----- >From: cookwithgas >Sent: Jun 9, 2008 4:56 PM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL > > >Scott Laughlin checking in here. Bill, I was just thinking similar thoughts when I opened up your email. I just had a similar experience. This morning the weather looked favorable for a change so I skipped work and met a flight instructor at my hangar and fired up the Corvair/601XL. It just flew so well and for two hours I did 15 landings and take-offs. It was a sunny day with a 4kt crosswind and it was pure joy. I used full flaps on every landing. I'm really bonding with my 601XL. It is all becoming second nature to me to fly and land this thing. I'm expecting to solo the next time we get some good weather here in Nebraska - hopefully later in the week. I filled her up with some $4.90 a gallon blue gas and tucked her away in anticipation of some more flight time this week. > >That will bring me one more dream-come-true for my first solo to be in the airplane I built in my garage. For the builders still working on an XL, keep building and dreaming because the airplane is a real joy to fly. > >Thanks Bill for sharing your experience - it's great to hear some good news on this list. > >Scott Laughlin >Omaha, Nebraska >601XL/Corvair >Finished & Flying, 63.5 hours > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187019#187019 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:11 PM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL Group. I ve been out flying also. After a day of building I ve run into a six pack of Miller Genuine Draft... Geeze I m about 8 thousand feets in the air right bout now. I ll be landing in the morning but til then wish me luck> Roger over and ouit.... Man my Jabiru is runnning good.. This is the best I must say.... I m soo happy, I have a XL that is beautiful and I cant wait til my 40 huors are flown off so I can take other persons and people up....... Nite, nite.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Vega" Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL > > All; > I recently took a great flight i 'd thought to share. Last saterday was a > great day to fly, however daddy duties gobbled most of the day. After > dinner the air became calm with 10 mile vis. With only 30 minutes of sun, > i decided to go any way. Arriving at th airport I did the usual > preflight, check all bolts, check oil, vis check on gas quantity. Right > tank had a good 10 gallons in it so hopping in i switched to that tank. > It was 10 minutes to sunset so on came the strobes and nav lights. I also > have a 2 foot long neck light that i put red tinnt glass on for in flight > cabin lighting. Turning the engine to start , and she cranked up to her > usual 800 rpm purrr. Canopy shut, I did run up, checked the Jabiru mags > for their 20 rpm drop, and was cleared for take off. > I turned the Transponder to active, fuel [pump on, and accerlated at 2850 > rpm to 51 mph, and hit Vy 65. Up we climbed Rivet and I, at 74 mph at 1100 > ft per mintue into the still Florida air. shutting the fuel pump off, i > cleared to switch frequency and monitored the Tampa Control TCA . headed > out towards the gulf of mexico to watch the sun set. Leveling off, I hit > the dimmer on the Dynons, and th cabin was filled with a nice comfortable > glow. At 5500 ft I trimmed for 125 mph and set the plane for 5 gal/hr > burn at lean of peak EGT, settling in as the sun set. Watching that sun > go down in the best seat in the house! stayed up in the still air at 5500 > ft out over the gulf for 1 hr after sunset. and called in the tower for > landing." 427JV you are 8 miles west inbound for runway 7, cleared to > land, winds 120 at 1. Yes, 1. altimeter 30.08." I repeated everything > back and trimmed for 95 and set the rpm at 2100. PLane decended at 550 > per minute, and set for night landing, ! > trim, throttle set, flap at below 80 mph, trim for speed, and lower to > 1600 rpm. Landing light on and theere popped the runway. Greased her in > holding the nose off until 20 mph, then she settled the nose. and put her > away for the night. I went home and slept like a baby. > > Juan > > -----Original Message----- >>From: cookwithgas >>Sent: Jun 9, 2008 4:56 PM >>To: zenith-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL >> >> >>Scott Laughlin checking in here. Bill, I was just thinking similar >>thoughts when I opened up your email. I just had a similar experience. >>This morning the weather looked favorable for a change so I skipped work >>and met a flight instructor at my hangar and fired up the Corvair/601XL. >>It just flew so well and for two hours I did 15 landings and take-offs. >>It was a sunny day with a 4kt crosswind and it was pure joy. I used full >>flaps on every landing. I'm really bonding with my 601XL. It is all >>becoming second nature to me to fly and land this thing. I'm expecting to >>solo the next time we get some good weather here in Nebraska - hopefully >>later in the week. I filled her up with some $4.90 a gallon blue gas and >>tucked her away in anticipation of some more flight time this week. >> >>That will bring me one more dream-come-true for my first solo to be in the >>airplane I built in my garage. For the builders still working on an XL, >>keep building and dreaming because the airplane is a real joy to fly. >> >>Thanks Bill for sharing your experience - it's great to hear some good >>news on this list. >> >>Scott Laughlin >>Omaha, Nebraska >>601XL/Corvair >>Finished & Flying, 63.5 hours >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187019#187019 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:08 PM PST US From: "THOMAS SMALL" Subject: Zenith-List: question for Juan Hi Juan, You mention "lean of peak" with your Jab. Have you an Ellison or an Aerocarb (or perhaps one not familiar to us) instead of the Bing original. How do you like it? cheers jeff do not archive >set the plane for 5 gal/hr burn at lean of peak EGT, ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:32 PM PST US From: LHusky@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Happy Flying 601XL Well, although my XL is not done yet, I want to share yesterdays flight with my wife. We took a Cessna 172 over the Cascade Mountains yesterday for the first time. I have only had my ticket a week, but the weather was clear, calm and beautiful. We flew 90 miles to the Willamette Valley. I flew 8500 feet there and 9500 feet back. That is the highest I have ever been and the view was spectacular! My wife took some great pictures and I just enjoyed the heck out of the day. We stopped and visited family, ate dinner and then headed back. I was really pumped up about working on the plane. Having my ticket now is a major step towards my dream. I am hoping to have my plane done by the end of the year. We have 300 VFR days here and I am hoping to be done with testing and ready to go places by next spring. We will see though. I will be putting composite gear on this weekend and should have a rolling fuselage by the end of the weekend. Canopy will be next and then on to the engine. I am planning to go down to Dragonfly Aviation and getting some dual time in an XL trainer when I get close to being done. If your still working on your ticket, KEEP GOING!! It is so worth the time and money! I am having a blast!! I now have 79.1 hours and building. Take care, Larry Husky Madras, Oregon **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:28 PM PST US From: "Brad Cohen" Subject: Zenith-List: fuselage measurements Question for the group; I have just installed the top longeron from the engine mounts to teh rear fuselage. on page 6-B-11C it states that the measurement from the top of the longeron to the underside of the gear channel is 497mm. mine is 479. I am wondering if it is a typo in the manual. I mean all of the measurements up to this point are dead on, including measuring the height of the fuselage side skins and the engine mounts. Any thoughts? -brad Cohen XL/TD ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:44 PM PST US From: Cndmovn Subject: Re: Zenith-List: fuselage measurements It is 497 on mine. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Brad Cohen wrote: > > Question for the group; > I have just installed the top longeron from the engine mounts to teh rear > fuselage. on page 6-B-11C it states that the measurement from the top of the > longeron to the underside of the gear channel is 497mm. > mine is 479. I am wondering if it is a typo in the manual. I mean all of > the measurements up to this point are dead on, including measuring the > height of the fuselage side skins and the engine mounts. > > Any thoughts? > > -brad Cohen > XL/TD > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:20 PM PST US From: jason Parker Subject: Zenith-List: fuel injected 912 is running now Read about how I fuel injected my Titan Tornado in 3 weeks. mine is runningGreat! 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