---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/12/08: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:55 AM - Re: Alternator failure (Juan Vega) 2. 04:53 AM - Re: Gauging Material thickness (Geoff Heap) 3. 04:58 AM - Re: Gauging Material thickness (Geoff Heap) 4. 05:35 AM - Re: Scratch, kit , and Quick Build, build time survey (Edward Moody II) 5. 06:49 AM - Re: corvair rod balancing tool (n801bh@netzero.com) 6. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: Gauging Material thickness (Robert Taylor) 7. 07:39 AM - Re: Alternator failure (moorecomp) 8. 02:35 PM - Re: corvair rod balancing tool (Dave Thompson) 9. 03:24 PM - Re: Alternator failure (jetboy) 10. 04:19 PM - Re: Gauging Material thickness (sonar1@cox.net) 11. 06:05 PM - William Wynne on the CH601 XL (Jaybannist@cs.com) 12. 07:51 PM - Re: William Wynne on the CH601 XL (TxDave) 13. 08:04 PM - Re: William Wynne on the CH601 XL (PatrickW) 14. 08:06 PM - Re: corvair rod balancing tool (Ron Lendon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:03 AM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Alternator failure WHoa dude ! sounds like you have power to run a 747!. You probably only need 20 amps. UNless you run at night alot, thern 25 amps. any thoughtss? JUan -----Original Message----- >From: Grant Corriveau >Sent: Jun 11, 2008 1:31 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Alternator failure > > >During the pre-taxi checklist this evening I thought my alternator >output was a little low. I usually see 13 volts and I was only >seeing about 12.5v. I switched the alternator off then on to be >sure it was actually putting out, which it was. So I pressed on for >a lovely evening putter around the area. > >After about 20 minutes I glanced over and saw the volts were down to >11 at zero amps, so I landed. It was nice to know I had two fresh >batteries available (one only a month old) -- converted auto engines >without magnetos introduce new failure modes that had to be >incorporated into the electrical system design. > >Anyway, my next task is to find an appropriate replacement alternator >- hopefully a lighter one. This one has 60 amps output, but do I need >that much? I'd prefer to save a few pounds if possible. > >Suggestions? > >Grant >GHTF >601hds/CAM100 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:37 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Gauging Material thickness From: "Geoff Heap" Hey Al. I recommend the caliper also but not the digital. The first thing that typically happens is that the battery goes dead. Buy the DIAL caliper. Even the cheapest one should last forever if you keep dirt out of the rack. Go to "mscdirect.com" and use the search feature for calipers. They have enough to confuse you. Cheapest I saw today is $30. They go on sale for less. Harbor freight probably has them cheaper but the quality may not be as good,,,Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187537#187537 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:50 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Gauging Material thickness From: "Geoff Heap" Bryan suggested harbor freight. the CEN-TECH caliper that he refers to on sale now at $19. is a good buy...Geoff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187538#187538 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:44 AM PST US From: "Edward Moody II" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Scratch, kit , and Quick Build, build time survey I have just finished running all the fligt control cables. What is left to do: Reinstall the baggage deck and rivet it in place. Rivet the rear of the fuselage and the middle and rear top skins. Disassemble the entire plane to clean, prep, and paint it. Reassemble and do the FWF. Fit and paint the cowling. Check all bolt torques and fit the upholsery. Ground run engine. At this point I have 782 hours of my own time not counting helpers. Ed 601XL N4569G ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:59 AM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: corvair rod balancing tool It is a common connecting rod fixture used to balance rods. I will try t o find a pic to help you build one. Any local speed machine shop has one and you could go to one and I am pretty sure they will let ya see how i t works. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com -- "Dave Thompson" wrote: Hi guys, I haven=92t been on here for about 8 months. Due to financial reasons I decided that it was the wrong time to build an airplane. I purchased a 1 963 Corvair Turbo Spyder Convertible as a new project. It runs and looks great and I=92m having a blast with it. Anyway, I have a Corvair buddy that I=92m helping rebuild his Corvair engine. We want to balance it while it is apart. During my flight Corvair engine r esearch, I saw a website someplace that shows a tool that this guy built to balance Corvair rods. He had a very detailed description and picture s. I can=92t find it now. If someone knows of the website, could they pl ease e-mail it to me? Due to the fact that I=92m on several Corvair chat groups I no longer vi sit this list regularly. Please send the link directly to my e-mail. Thanks in advance, Dave Thompson Dave.thompson@verizon.net Westminster, CA ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== === ____________________________________________________________ Get an Unsecured Loan - Fast and Low Cost. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/Ioyw6i4ty6nmhzRE7DJhxjgFK z069Nt3ZbOsXygzr0FFFWhQqNc4NU/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:43 AM PST US From: "Robert Taylor" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Gauging Material thickness I have had two of the digital calipers from HF for well over three years and have not replaced the battery in either of them. They have battery saver functions that turn them off automatically to save the batteries. I have had no troubles with either of them. Pretty good buy. Bob Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Heap" Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Gauging Material thickness > > Hey Al. I recommend the caliper also but not the digital. The first thing > that typically happens is that the battery goes dead. Buy the DIAL > caliper. Even the cheapest one should last forever if you keep dirt out of > the rack. > Go to "mscdirect.com" and use the search feature for calipers. They have > enough to confuse you. Cheapest I saw today is $30. They go on sale for > less. Harbor freight probably has them cheaper but the quality may not be > as good,,,Geoff > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187537#187537 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:14 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Alternator failure From: "moorecomp" "grant.corriveau(at)TELUS."]During the pre-taxi checklist this evening I thought my alternator output was a little low. I usually see 13 volts and I was only seeing about 12.5v. I switched the alternator off then on to be sure it was actually putting out, which it was. So I pressed on for a lovely evening putter around the area. After about 20 minutes I glanced over and saw the volts were down to 11 at zero amps, so I landed. It was nice to know I had two fresh batteries available (one only a month old) -- converted auto engines without magnetos introduce new failure modes that had to be incorporated into the electrical system design. Anyway, my next task is to find an appropriate replacement alternator - hopefully a lighter one. This one has 60 amps output, but do I need that much? I'd prefer to save a few pounds if possible. Suggestions? Grant GHTF 601hds/CAM100" I don't know if it will fit on the CAM100 or not, but checkout what Mark Langford has on his sight for his Corvair. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/dynamo.html Best regards, Craig Moore A&P Mancelona, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187576#187576 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:06 PM PST US From: "Dave Thompson" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: corvair rod balancing tool Thanks, That is the site I was looking for! Dave Thompson _____ From: Christoph Steiner [mailto:csteiner@mac.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: corvair rod balancing tool I have a Corvair buddy that I'm helping rebuild his Corvair engine. We want to balance it while it is apart. During my flight Corvair engine research, I saw a website someplace that shows a tool that this guy built to balance Corvair rods. He had a very detailed description and pictures. I can't find it now. HI, I guess that's what you are looking for : http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/RodBalance.html regards Christoph Steiner ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:03 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Alternator failure From: "jetboy" A word of caution using the dynamo circuit in the corvair article. It is not good practice to allow a situation (for any type of alternator regulator) where the voltage sense wire(yellow) and the regulator output wire(red) are able to not be connected with each other whilst the alternator may be in operation. By wiring the sense wire after the master switch and the output wire to the battery you have a situation where there is low voltage at the sense connection so the regulator turns full on putting 40 volts to the battery. In some cases there is no output when the sense wire is off depending on the particular regulator design. The Kubota lawn tractors have a similar dynamo system reportedly less expensive than the JD., this is what is used for Jabiru engines. This regulator is series switching type so does charge in short pulses whereas the larger 3 phase field regulated types do have a smoother more constant output. The Denso one pictured in the Corvair article should be ideal for the CAM100, or even one of each type for security of supply because the dynamo type are usually not up to much more than 15 amps - The B+C one I recall is 8 amps possibly because it uses a linear regulator - smooth output but they get hotter. Ralph -------- Ralph - CH701 / 2200a Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187647#187647 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:19:08 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Gauging Material thickness From: "sonar1@cox.net" Get the dial caliper - not the digital that eats batteries. Only advantage is that they can read mm also. I have been using my dial caliper for ten years, for everything from aluminum thickness to drill sizes to hole sizes to - you name it. Use it every day, and never need to replace batteries. You will find many many uses for it..............Fred Sanford...do not archive ....N9701 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187654#187654 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:56 PM PST US From: Jaybannist@cs.com Subject: Zenith-List: William Wynne on the CH601 XL This is a long article, but it is worth reading. Jay in Dallas CH601 XL N2630J "Lil Bruiser" ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:48 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: William Wynne on the CH601 XL From: "TxDave" Jay, Was there a link to the article? Did I miss something? Dave Clay Temple, TX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187688#187688 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:09 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: William Wynne on the CH601 XL From: "PatrickW" http://flycorvair.com/601paper.html - Pat -------- Patrick 601XL/Corvair N63PZ (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187690#187690 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:59 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: corvair rod balancing tool From: "Ron Lendon" Is this the one? http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/CorvAIRCRAFT/RodBalance.html -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187691#187691 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.