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1. 07:44 AM - BRS engine mount firewall attachment drawing? (Debo Cox)
2. 10:49 AM - Rear starter update (Aerolitellc@aol.com)
3. 11:07 AM - Re: BRS engine mount firewall attachment drawing? (PatrickW)
4. 02:07 PM - Battery slow to take charge (Grant Corriveau)
5. 02:27 PM - Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar (lwhitlow)
6. 03:35 PM - Re: Flaps Travel (dingfelder)
7. 03:41 PM - Re: Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar (Jaybannist@cs.com)
8. 04:16 PM - Re: Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar (lwhitlow)
9. 04:21 PM - Powder Coating Pro's and Con's (lwhitlow)
10. 05:03 PM - Re: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's (Jaybannist@cs.com)
11. 05:39 PM - Re: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's (Paul Mulwitz)
12. 05:51 PM - Re: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's (Juan Vega)
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| Subject: | BRS engine mount firewall attachment drawing? |
Hi guys,
I'm at the point of attaching my new-style BRS engine mount brackets to the firewall.
Has anyone seen a drawing that specifies number, type, and placement of
bolts, etc? I searched the archives and the BRS site - no luck with the new Zenith
mounts. I'll check with Zenith if there's not one out there and post it
here.
Thanks in advance.
Debo Cox
Nags Head, NC
Scratchbuilding XL/Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/debo
do not archive
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| Subject: | Rear starter update |
List
We have just finished a 10 hour flight from Englewood Fl. to Louisville KY
with the new rear starter setup and you can view pics and a video of the engine
run up at Bill Clapp's place on the web site here
_http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Rear_Starter_Kit.php_
(http://www.aeroliteproducts.com/Rear_Starter_Kit.php) We plan to have the airplane at Oshkosh with the new rear starter
setup. I will be updating the site with a Technical update on distributors as
well as more ring gear cracks in the next few hours.
Jeff
_www.aeroliteproducts.com_ (http://www.aeroliteproducts.com)
**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
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| Subject: | Re: BRS engine mount firewall attachment drawing? |
I know that they are working on instructions to do an AMD style BRS install, of
which the new brackets you mention are a part. Last word I got from ZAC (about
a week ago) was that "it shouldn't be long".
I'd encourage people who are interested in installing a BRS to ask Zenith for instructions.
That way they know more of us are out here and are interested, and
maybe you'll get the latest info from them and can then pass that info along
to the rest of us.
- Pat
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Patrick
601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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| Subject: | Battery slow to take charge |
I have dual 18ah RGB batteries ala a Bob Nucholls design that
provides max. battery redundancy - something I wanted for an
automotive conversion with electronic ignition and electric fuel pumps.
No. 1 Batt is brand new and operates as expected, taking a charge
immediately after engine start.
But Batt 2 (two years old) won't take a charge initially even up to
3,000 engine rpm. During and After flight, when I check, No. 2 Batt.
is taking a charge and behaving normally. I've checked/tightened all
the connections etc.... I guess I should actually put a meter
through it to ground and see how the resistance compares in case I do
have a corroded contact.
But is it possible that the battery itself has internal problems
causing this? This seems strange with only 2 years of life on it.
thanks
Grant
GHTF
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| Subject: | Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar |
Hi All
I'm working on the control install on a 601XL (with the dual stick option).
I know the rudder cables pass on the outsides of the the torque tube and pre installed
angles on the main spar
I checked the zenith builders site and Larry McFarland's "if I don't understand
he's probably got a picture of it." place, but his is a HD and things are a little
different up there
A picture would go a long way to make me comfortable with the things I'm doing
now. I don't want to bolt myself into a corner later.
No I'm not doing any mods, just following the plans.
Now I gotta go look for my belt and suspenders...........
Thanks
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Flaps Travel |
Thanks to all who responded concerning my inquiries about
flap travel. I also called Zenith and talked to Caleb. He told me that the
flap motor now provided with the kit will only provide 20 degrees travel,
though my kit has the previously supplied unit. This change was made to
conform to Sport Pilot compliance requirements. He said it had to do with
the ability to fully trim the elevator to compensate for the attitude change
with the flaps extended. I just finished rigging and adjusting my flaps and
ailerons. Admittedly, I was very anal about the entire process, and settled
for nothing less than perfection. I was able to achieve 24 degrees of flap
engagement. And Jay of Dallas, my switches ended up with slightly more than
3/16" between the closest connections. Now, if only this aircraft was
painted!!!
Lynn Dingfelder
601 XL / Corvair Corry, PA ding@tbscc.com
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| Subject: | Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar |
Larry,
These are the only two photos I could find. Let me know if you have questions.
Jay in Dallas
"lwhitlow" <ldwhitlow@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>Hi All
>
>I'm working on the control install on a 601XL (with the dual stick option).
>
>I know the rudder cables pass on the outsides of the the torque tube and pre installed
angles on the main spar
>
>I checked the zenith builders site and Larry McFarland's "if I don't understand
he's probably got a picture of it." place, but his is a HD and things are a
little different up there
>
>A picture would go a long way to make me comfortable with the things I'm doing
now. I don't want to bolt myself into a corner later.
>
>No I'm not doing any mods, just following the plans.
>
>Now I gotta go look for my belt and suspenders...........
>
>Thanks
>
>Larry
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188950#188950
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Picture of Rudder cable Fairlead install Main Spar |
Jay
Those were Great!!! Just what I needed. I was unsure that small of a space for
the cables to pass through was enough.
Those shots answered all of my questions
Thanks
Larry
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| Subject: | Powder Coating Pro's and Con's |
All
What's the consensus about powder coating the 4130 Steel parts??
I know your not supposed to powder coat the motor mount, because it makes it harder
to spot small cracks, but what about the other parts??
I'm installing the dual stick option right now, so now would be the time to get
it done
Opinions??? Best guess??? Wild A** Speculation [Laughing] ???
Thanks
Larry
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| Subject: | Powder Coating Pro's and Con's |
Larry,
I think powder coating would be great, especially for the dual sticks parts. I
painted with RustOleum and they have already gotten scuffed up a lot. There is
a lot of work that must be done around those parts and they will take a beating.
Not that I am particularly abusive ;), but sh..t happens! I imagine a powder
coating would be able to withstand the abuse a lot better than RustOleum.
Jay in Dallas
"lwhitlow" <ldwhitlow@comcast.net> wrote:
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>All
>
>What's the consensus about powder coating the 4130 Steel parts??
>
>I know your not supposed to powder coat the motor mount, because it makes it harder
to spot small cracks, but what about the other parts??
>
>I'm installing the dual stick option right now, so now would be the time to get
it done
>
>Opinions??? Best guess??? Wild A** Speculation [Laughing] ???
>
>Thanks
>
>Larry
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188965#188965
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's |
Hi Larry,
I would avoid powder coating anything in an airplane. Powder coat is
essentially melted polyurethane which when burned produces large
quantities of hydrogen cyanide gas. That is not the kind of stuff
you want in a cockpit when you can't immediately land. In the old
days before lethal injections, that is the gas they used to execute criminals.
For my steel parts, I used epoxy primer from the automotive paint
store. This is the same stuff that goes under the final paint
job. It is a bit expensive at just under $100 for a gallon and a
half (1 gallon paint, 1/2 gallon hardener) but that goes a long way.
I recently discovered the cheap little HVLP touch up paint gun from
harbor freight works just fine. Of course you need the standard
safety equipment - respirator and gloves.
Good luck,
Paul
XL getting close
At 04:18 PM 6/21/2008, you wrote:
>What's the consensus about powder coating the 4130 Steel parts??
>
>I know your not supposed to powder coat the motor mount, because it
>makes it harder to spot small cracks, but what about the other parts??
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| Subject: | Re: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's |
most aircraft produced with chrome molly tubing are Powder coated. It works great
and not expensive. Maules, Huskys, Lots of Cubs.
Most engine mounts produced are powder coated. If my pipes are burning, I'm probably
allready Dead.
Corroded pipes are far worse.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Mulwitz <psm@att.net>
>Sent: Jun 21, 2008 8:36 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Powder Coating Pro's and Con's
>
>
>Hi Larry,
>
>I would avoid powder coating anything in an airplane. Powder coat is
>essentially melted polyurethane which when burned produces large
>quantities of hydrogen cyanide gas. That is not the kind of stuff
>you want in a cockpit when you can't immediately land. In the old
>days before lethal injections, that is the gas they used to execute criminals.
>
>For my steel parts, I used epoxy primer from the automotive paint
>store. This is the same stuff that goes under the final paint
>job. It is a bit expensive at just under $100 for a gallon and a
>half (1 gallon paint, 1/2 gallon hardener) but that goes a long way.
>
>I recently discovered the cheap little HVLP touch up paint gun from
>harbor freight works just fine. Of course you need the standard
>safety equipment - respirator and gloves.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Paul
>XL getting close
>
>
>At 04:18 PM 6/21/2008, you wrote:
>>What's the consensus about powder coating the 4130 Steel parts??
>>
>>I know your not supposed to powder coat the motor mount, because it
>>makes it harder to spot small cracks, but what about the other parts??
>
>
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