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1. 04:03 AM - Re: Elevator cables modification (Juan Vega)
2. 05:52 AM - Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL (Skip Perry)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL (pavel569)
4. 05:59 AM - Re: Corvair engines (XIUYAN1)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: [EAA347] Sonex accident (XIUYAN1)
6. 06:11 AM - Re: Elevator cables modification (Craig Spainhower)
7. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
8. 12:25 PM - Sonex accident - the whole story (TxDave)
9. 01:05 PM - (steve@cccparis.com)
10. 01:21 PM - 701 fuselage skins (steve@cccparis.com)
11. 01:31 PM - Need to Order Fuel Tubing (lwhitlow)
12. 02:56 PM - New List (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
13. 03:02 PM - Re: Zenith601-List: New List (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
14. 04:11 PM - Re: Need to Order Fuel Tubing (dingfelder)
15. 04:13 PM - Re: Sonex accident - the whole story (Southern Reflections)
16. 05:08 PM - Re: Need to Order Fuel Tubing (LarryMcFarland)
17. 07:30 PM - Re: 701 fuselage skins (Jerry Shepard)
18. 09:22 PM - Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL (Robert Haskins)
19. 10:35 PM - Re: Sonex accident - the whole story (TxDave)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator cables modification |
you can even put it close to the bottom hatch. just put it in the middle of the
cable
-----Original Message-----
>From: steve <notsew_evets@frontiernet.net>
>Sent: Jun 27, 2008 8:45 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Elevator cables modification
>
>I put my turnbuckles on as: The down cable is on the upper part of the control
yoke and thats easy to get to. The up cable is harder to get to so I put the
turnbuckle on the elevator control horn at the tail. To adjust I remove the
fiberglass fairing...
>
>SW
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Melvin Francke
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:42 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Elevator cables modification
>
>
> Is there any reason why instead of putting the turnbuckle at the control stick
in center console.
> That you could not put the turnbuckle in the center (over the bottom access
door) of the cable running to the elevator and use thimbles and shackles on both
end attachments.
> This would make it easier to adjust.
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank caps for 601XL |
Sounds like you need to call Zenith and get the "giant counter-sink".
Also,
don't forget the tap to clean the threads after you've done the counter
sink.
Skip Perry
Do not archive
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Haskins
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel tank caps for 601XL
I didn't do a good job of describing the problem. The reason that the
caps
are not flush with the skin is that the filler tubes, which are screwed
into
the tanks do not screw down far enough. The filler tubes have a beveled
shoulder at the top, and the top of the tanks are not beveled. The cap
and
top of the filler tube extend each extend up beyond the outer skin
&7~ 2,=03g=16SS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL |
Picture worth thousand words.
rhaskins(at)kumc.edu wrote:
> I didn't do a good job of describing the problem. The reason that the caps are
not flush with the skin is that the filler tubes, which are screwed into the
tanks do not screw down far enough. The filler tubes have a beveled shoulder
at the top,and the top of the tanks are not beveled. The cap and top of the filler
tube extend each extend up beyond the outer skin
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Pavel
CA
Zodiac XL N581PM (Reserved)
Tail, flaps, ailerons done, right wing on the table ....
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair engines |
this is great. This must be a lot of work.
thanks!
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| Subject: | Re: [EAA347] Sonex accident |
Correct
I must agree,
things have got rather large~~!
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator cables modification |
I installed my turnbuckles in the center console and had no difficulty
adjusting the cables. The only challenge will be lockwiring the bottom
turnbuckle and I plan to remove it from the control stick to perform that
function. Other than for inspections I don't ever expect to have to access
that turnbuckle. Any slight adjustments can be performed on the upper
turnbuckle. I know several builders that have removable tail fairings and
have installed the turnbuckle there, but mine is not. There is no reason the
turnbuckle cannot be put in any of the locations suggested, but my
experience is that in the center console it is easily inspected and has not
been a problem.
Craig S.
N601XS, 601xl 0-235 lyc, preparing to install wings. Cushing Field, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL |
I looked at my tanks and they are the same as the older kit I built a year
ago. I think he has too much cork under the tanks and the top is too close to
the skin. Most times I have to put 2 and sometimes 3 layers of cork around
the filler neck to make the cap even with the skin. I'm sure some will remember
the trouble with the filler neck not laying flush. I wish he would send a
pick of the tank in the wing.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Sonex accident - the whole story |
This accident happened in August, 2007. it is the only fatal accident in the 10
year history of the Sonex. The most likely cause of the accident was a medical
problem. The pilot's glucose levels in his urine were through the roof. There
should be no glucose in your urine. For this level to occur means his blood
glucose levels were probably astronomical. The pilot had a long history of diabetes.
a very high blood glucose level can cause confusion, spacial disorientation,
and even coma.
Dave Clay
Temple, TX
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I am plans building a 701. I am ready to cut the fuselage skins (7-F-2), and noticed
that there is an additional line of 15 or 20MM added to the
outside straight line. What is the reason for this? Is there an engineering reason
to create a curved line rather than a straight line?
Your input would be helpful. THANKS SteveRusell Paris, TX
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| Subject: | 701 fuselage skins |
I am plans building a 701. I am ready to cut the fuselage skins (7-F-2), and
noticed that there is an additional line of 15 or 20MM added to the
outside straight line. What is the reason for this? Is there an engineering
reason to create a curved line rather than a straight line?
Your input would be helpful. THANKS SteveRusell Paris, TX
____________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Need to Order Fuel Tubing |
All
I am planning to eliminate the rubber fuel lines in the cabin. I want to go with
metal tubing
Questions
1 Which alloy is best for this?
2 What size? Same as the ID of the rubber tubing I'm replacing??
And for the bonus round Do I get it from ACS or a quick trip the the aviation section
of the auto parts store? [Rolling Eyes]
Thanks
Larry
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I just got an email that said Matt created a new list for us for Corvair
Engines here is the link to the subscribe page.
_http://www.matronics.com/subscription/index.php?Frame=center&Functions=Confir
m&Service=Confirm&ConfirmID=121468894536314161_
(http://www.matronics.com/subscription/index.php?Frame=center&Functions=Confirm&Service=Confirm&ConfirmID=12
1468894536314161)
I have also found one named VairHeads and here is the link for that one.
_http://mylist.net/listinfo/vairheads_ (http://mylist.net/listinfo/vairheads)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith601-List: New List |
sorry wrong link the matronics link is
_http://www.matronics.com/subscription/index.php_ (http://www.matronics.com/subscription/index.php)
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fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
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| Subject: | Re: Need to Order Fuel Tubing |
Larry,
Summitt racing is an excellent source for all types of fuel
lines and fittings. You want the 3/8 " OD aluminum tube.
Lynn
Corry, PA
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| Subject: | Re: Sonex accident - the whole story |
Question? does any one know how many sonex's are flying? Joe N101HD
----- Original Message -----
From: "TxDave" <dclaytx2@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:21 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Sonex accident - the whole story
>
> This accident happened in August, 2007. it is the only fatal accident in
> the 10 year history of the Sonex. The most likely cause of the accident
> was a medical problem. The pilot's glucose levels in his urine were
> through the roof. There should be no glucose in your urine. For this level
> to occur means his blood glucose levels were probably astronomical. The
> pilot had a long history of diabetes. a very high blood glucose level can
> cause confusion, spacial disorientation, and even coma.
>
> Dave Clay
> Temple, TX
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190265#190265
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need to Order Fuel Tubing |
Larry,
I'd recommend you purchase 5052-0 aluminum tube, 3/8ths O.D. .035 wall
thickness and the flared fittings that go with that
option. The 3/8ths tube is pretty durable and not likely to get damaged
easily, yet you can use a tube bender to get nice results.
See links below for example 3/8th line.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/headertank/full/tankinplace.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/headertank/full/fuel-thru-firewall.gif
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
lwhitlow wrote:
>
> All
>
> I am planning to eliminate the rubber fuel lines in the cabin. I want to go with
metal tubing
>
> Questions
>
> 1 Which alloy is best for this?
> 2 What size? Same as the ID of the rubber tubing I'm replacing??
>
> And for the bonus round Do I get it from ACS or a quick trip the the aviation
section of the auto parts store? [Rolling Eyes]
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190273#190273
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 fuselage skins |
The extra 15 to 20 mm creates a balloon shaped fuselage which is stronger
because it uses the strength of the skins IE rather than compressing and
buckling, it tries to stretch the skin when ever tension is placed on the
fuselage in any direction.
----- Original Message -----
From: <steve@cccparis.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:19 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 fuselage skins
>
> I am plans building a 701. I am ready to cut the fuselage skins (7-F-2),
> and
> noticed that there is an additional line of 15 or 20MM added to the
> outside straight line. What is the reason for this? Is there an
> engineering
> reason to create a curved line rather than a straight line?
> Your input would be helpful. THANKS SteveRusell Paris, TX
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank caps for 601XL |
Here are photos of the fuel neck with the cap on. It shows the bevel or
flange at the top of the fuel neck, but there is no corresponding bevel
in the top of the fuel tank hole. It screws in, but stops at the bottom
of the flange.
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| Subject: | Re: Sonex accident - the whole story |
According to the Sonex Web site, as of Feb. 2008 they had received reports of just
over 200 flying Sonex's. Something like 1200 sets of plans and/or kits have
been sold.
Dave
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