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1. 08:00 AM - Re: Flutter experience (Klaus Truemper)
2. 12:00 PM - place to stay in Oshkosh (Joe Scheibinger)
3. 12:09 PM - New (?) O-200s and Jabiru 3300s for sale cheap (Craig Payne)
4. 12:30 PM - It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (cookwithgas)
5. 01:19 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Gig Giacona)
6. 02:12 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Lawrence Webber)
7. 02:20 PM - Re: Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Randy L. Thwing)
8. 02:23 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Craig Payne)
9. 02:36 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (dingfelder)
10. 03:04 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Jay Maynard)
11. 04:39 PM - Re: New (?) O-200s and Jabiru 3300s for sale cheap (steve)
12. 04:44 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (LHusky@aol.com)
13. 05:06 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (thesumak@aol.com)
14. 05:12 PM - Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride (Andrewlieser)
15. 05:24 PM - XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... (Andrewlieser)
16. 06:20 PM - Re: metallurgical test (bcchurch)
17. 06:34 PM - Re: Rudder Light Custom Fairing (leinad)
18. 06:36 PM - Tool list for the 601HDS (LarryMcFarland)
19. 06:46 PM - Re: XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... (LarryMcFarland)
20. 10:37 PM - Re: XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... (Leo Gates)
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| Subject: | Re: Flutter experience |
Hi,
A short time ago Philip Welsch told me about a flutter
incidence in his 601XL. He stopped it by reducing power
and pulling up. When I looked at the aileron cables
recently, they seemed properly tensioned.
Happy flying,
Klaus
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| Subject: | place to stay in Oshkosh |
If anyone is looking for a place to stay in Oshkosh, my neighbor is offering
her home. They have moved into a new home and the house is up for sale. It's
a fairly new home in a subdivision with 3 bedrooms, 2 full bath, remodeled
basement, air conditioned, close to the airport They moved out 2 weeks ago
and it's very clean and up for sale. Full laundry. Lots of parking space and
you can party with the neighbors, a bunch of Viggen and 601 XL builders!
$100 per day with a $700 minimum. If you are interested call Malissa at
920-410-3282 or you can call me at 920-237-1450 and I will set it up for
you.
Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | New (?) O-200s and Jabiru 3300s for sale cheap |
This is not my ad, I just saw it on Barnstormers. Indus is selling 5 "new,
in the crate" 3300s for $14,200.
"NEW JABIRU3300 CONT 0-200 . ASKING PRICE SLASHED . Champ and Cub owners New
In crate 5 new 0-200 Continental engines. Homebuilders......New in crate 5
New 3300 Jabiru Engines We have an over stock of Jabiru and Continental
engines...this is new stock never been opened. 14,500.00 for the 0-200 and
14,200.00 for the Jabiru 3300 engines. This is a rare opportunity to freshen
up that existing aircraft.. Get an engine for your project ....cheap. They
will not last at this price. Please ask for Aldo Sibi Director Of
Production. (Engines are in Crate ready to ship) . Contact Al Sibi - INDUS
AVIATION, Broker - located Dallas , TX USA . Telephone: 1-877-464-6387 .
Fax: 214-337-6388 . Posted July 8, 2008"
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| Subject: | It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
Hi Guys:
Many of you have been a part of my journey to build my airplane and learn to fly
it - I truly appreciate all of the encouragement and tips. The airplane is
performing well and I have completed all of my training. I solo'd two weeks ago
and my cross-country solo was completed last weekend.
Next week I take my check ride with an examiner. For those of you that have been
through this can you email me some ideas of how to prepare? Are there any
"lessons learned" you can share with me that you wish you had done in advance
to the check ride?
Thanks,
Scott Laughlin
601XL/Corvair
Omaha, Nebraska
www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
The oral will be the harder of the two part test. At least it was back in the 70's
when I got my PPL. Don't try to impress the examiner with how much you know.
Answer the question as asked. Much like being deposed for a court case. If
he asks you what 2 + 2 equals the answer is 4 not why the answer is 4 unless he
asks. I have watched people getting tested blow an oral by giving the right
answer and the wrong reason for it when the reason wasn't asked in the first place.
As for the ride. You won't be asked to do anything you haven't been doing for a
while now. Just enjoy the flight. It's no different than the last one you take
with your instructor. You know the plane better than 99.9999% of people the
examiner is ever going to test.
Get a good night's rest the night before and as I said enjoy the flight. It is
just one of many many more in your future.
cookwithgas wrote:
> Hi Guys:
>
> Many of you have been a part of my journey to build my airplane and learn to
fly it - I truly appreciate all of the encouragement and tips. The airplane is
performing well and I have completed all of my training. I solo'd two weeks
ago and my cross-country solo was completed last weekend.
>
> Next week I take my check ride with an examiner. For those of you that have
been through this can you email me some ideas of how to prepare? Are there
any "lessons learned" you can share with me that you wish you had done in advance
to the check ride?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> 601XL/Corvair
> Omaha, Nebraska
> www.cooknwithgas.com
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
been there done that use check lists use safety lists repeat repeat if he
/she asks you to perform
a task and it is unsafe refuse=2C you are the pilot in command if in doub
t of any task you are asked to do
ask oh yeah use safety lists use check lists and make sure you perform
a good thorough pre flite of
all paperwork ARROW and flite plan and aircraft do this while he /
she is watching and DONT FORGET TO USE CHECK LISTS AND AND SAFETY LISTS
have a great flight
Larry
> Subject: Zenith-List: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check R
ide> From: cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM> Date: Tue=2C 8 Jul 2008 12:27:08 -0700>
ithgas" <cookwithgas@hotmail.com>> > Hi Guys:> > Many of you have been a pa
rt of my journey to build my airplane and learn to fly it - I truly appreci
ate all of the encouragement and tips. The airplane is performing well and
I have completed all of my training. I solo'd two weeks ago and my cross-co
untry solo was completed last weekend. > > Next week I take my check ride w
ith an examiner. For those of you that have been through this can you email
me some ideas of how to prepare? Are there any "lessons learned" you can s
hare with me that you wish you had done in advance to the check ride?> > Th
anks=2C> > Scott Laughlin> 601XL/Corvair> Omaha=2C Nebraska> www.cooknwithg
as.com> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > http://forums.matronics.com
=====================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check |
Ride
Do not archive
A good friend, during his PPL flight test, was asked some Nav question that
he couldn't readily answer and got rattled. He called off the test half way
through.
If you are asked to do something like demonstrate a short field landing and
blow it, tell the Examiner "I can do this, let's go around again and I'll
show you". Then do it.
Even if things seem to go all wrong, don't quit, fly the airplane!
Above all, the Examiner wants to know that whatever goes wrong, you will
bring your ship and the Innocents that climbed aboard safely home.
You're joining the proud tradition of American Pilots, you'll do just fine.
Best Regards,
Randy, Las Vegas
Are there any "lessons learned" you can share with me that you wish you
had done in advance to the check ride?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Scott Laughlin
> > 601XL/Corvair
> > Omaha, Nebraska
> > www.cooknwithgas.com
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| Subject: | It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
If possible know the area of the flight beforehand and pick out good landing
spots for your simulated engine-out. Be prepared to justify your choice.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
Scott,
"Runway Encroachment" is a major current issue. My examiner,
after the test, told me if I hadn't stopped properly at the stop bars and
carefully looked both ways before entering the runway, the test would have
been over. The other big issue (this was in crowded Florida airspace) was
"clearing" the area before performing maneuvers. And relax, you'll do
fine.
Lynn Corry, PA
601XL/Corvair complete, now painting
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 12:27:08PM -0700, cookwithgas wrote:
> Next week I take my check ride with an examiner. For those of you that
> have been through this can you email me some ideas of how to prepare? Are
> there any "lessons learned" you can share with me that you wish you had
> done in advance to the check ride?
1) Leave your ego on the ramp. He cares much more that you're a safe pilot
than that you can salvage that rotten landing. If you think it's going to
suck, don't be afraid to go around. He's testing your judgment just as much
as your flying skills.
2) Don't be afraid to admit you don't know, or haven't done, something.
That's much better than trying to BS your way through it. My examiner asked
me if I'd ever landed on a grass strip - and when I told him I hadn't, we
did a touch and go at one just so he could show me that it's really not all
that much different.
3) That ties into something that may not be universal, but should be: Treat
it as a learning experience. There are minimum test standards, and then
there are things you're not expected to know well. Just do your best, and
don't sweat the small stuff. Unless you do something grossly unsafe, a few
mistakes won't sink you.
4) Be proud of your airplane, and unafraid to show it off on the ground...
just make sure it's airworthy first. You put a lot of work into it, and
you've got every right to be proud of it. Examiners are aviators, too, and
he's almost certainly going to be interested to look it over.
Your CFI should know what the examiner will expect, and what he does and how
he does it. He's not going to sign you off until you're ready. Take his word
for it, and you'll do fine.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: New (?) O-200s and Jabiru 3300s for sale cheap |
SCAM....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: New (?) O-200s and Jabiru 3300s for sale cheap
>
> This is not my ad, I just saw it on Barnstormers. Indus is selling 5 "new,
> in the crate" 3300s for $14,200.
>
> "NEW JABIRU3300 CONT 0-200 . ASKING PRICE SLASHED . Champ and Cub owners
> New
> In crate 5 new 0-200 Continental engines. Homebuilders......New in crate 5
> New 3300 Jabiru Engines We have an over stock of Jabiru and Continental
> engines...this is new stock never been opened. 14,500.00 for the 0-200 and
> 14,200.00 for the Jabiru 3300 engines. This is a rare opportunity to
> freshen
> up that existing aircraft.. Get an engine for your project ....cheap. They
> will not last at this price. Please ask for Aldo Sibi Director Of
> Production. (Engines are in Crate ready to ship) . Contact Al Sibi -
> INDUS
> AVIATION, Broker - located Dallas , TX USA . Telephone: 1-877-464-6387 .
> Fax: 214-337-6388 . Posted July 8, 2008"
>
> http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=258004
>
> AOL users, use this link:
>
> <a
> href="http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=258004">http://www.barnstor
> mers.com/listing.php?id=258004</a>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
Scott, I prepared for everything and still found myself stumbling with
answers. The airport crew grilled me for 2 weeks and I could knock out the answer
easy. When the day of the test came, it was nerves that got me. I had a
very turbulent day and that did not help me. Know your airspace and the
charts. At least know where to find the information. The hardest part of the
flying portion was the short field landing and flying under the hood. I don't
think you have to fly under the hood as a Sport Pilot, but if the examiner
weights a lot different than your instructor, go around a few times to get a feel
what the plane is doing. My examiner weighted 80 lbs more than my
instructor and the plane acted different. I went around 4 times before I nailed
the
landing right in the middle. The examiner never said a thing about going
around. The only other thing that stuck out in my mind was when I was doing my
steep turns. I was doing my steep turn and halfway through the turn, a huge
gust of wind, them my Cessna perpendicular to the ground. Without thinking, I
brought the plane back and broke out of the turn. The examiner asked me
why I broke out of the turn. I thought it was obvious, and him asking the
question kind of rattled me. He then told me to head back to the airport, which
scared the hell out of me. Once we had landed, he announced on the radio
that I was the newest private pilot. I was shocked and told him that I thought
I had flunked the check ride due to breaking out of the steep turn. He told
me that he was looking for a decision when that happened and that I had made
the right decision to terminate the turn and fly the plane. So, even if you
think you have blown the test, keep flying the plane and keep going. One
thing I found different than other people experienced, was the fact that my
examiner did not want me to explain what I was doing. He wanted me to say things
I would say to a passenger and treat him as if he had never flown before.
That was cool with me. Kept me from fumbling with the words. You will do
fine! Good luck!
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
In a message dated 7/8/2008 12:31:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cookwithgas@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
Hi Guys:
Many of you have been a part of my journey to build my airplane and learn to
fly it - I truly appreciate all of the encouragement and tips. The airplane
is performing well and I have completed all of my training. I solo'd two
weeks ago and my cross-country solo was completed last weekend.
Next week I take my check ride with an examiner. For those of you that
have been through this can you email me some ideas of how to prepare? Are
there any "lessons learned" you can share with me that you wish you had done in
advance to the check ride?
**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
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| Subject: | It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
Hi Scott,
Went through it not so long ago.? It helps is to get off to a good start and given
your circumstance, you will certainly do that.? The examiner will probably
first look over your airplane it's records.? The examiner will also probably
want to see a weight and balance calculation for your specific check ride flight.
This may sound strange, but you might e-mail ahead of time to get your examiners
weight so that you can do a very precise weight and balance.? My examiner
was large and with my airplane, we had to go with less than full tanks.? This
may be too late for you, but I took my written exam just before my check ride.?
That way, all the studying was parlayed to help with both written and oral
tests.?? The whole thing will be much easier that the demons in your head would
have you believe.? I'll bet you a beer that you make it through with no problems.
Cheers,
Bill
601xl
do not archive
Scott asked: ? For those of you that have been through this can you email me some
ideas of how to prepare?
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| Subject: | Re: It all comes down to this - the Sport Pilot Check Ride |
Lots of good advice already! My 2 cents worth is trust yourself and your instincts
and you'll do fine! The day of my PPL checkride the weather was scattered
thunderstorms and 3-5 visibility. To top it off my checkride was in Kenosha
WI and I was flying from Aurora IL which meant I had to navigate around busy
Chicago class B airspace. My checkride was supposed to be at 1 in the afternoon
but by 12 I knew that while it was legal to fly then it was not smart so I
called and my examiner luckily said he had an open schedule and to come once I
THOUGHT the weather was good enough. Once I got there I could tell he was already
satisfied in my ability to make the right decision and not the rushed one.
As for the oral I did get asked some question about if I would take a passenger
flying who had recently been scuba diving (to 2 certain depths ( I don't
remember what they were)) I was terrified in one moment I had gone from cruising
through this to sweaty palms. At that point I told the instructor that I
did NOT know the answer to that but if the situation presented itself I would
consult my FAR/AIM, which I always keep in my plane, before hand. So he said
alright lets go look it up and we did. I believe this was just another test
of my decision making abilities to make sure I would be safe rather than make
a rash decision. On the checkride itself your examiner will try and distract
at some point generally when he or she knows that something important needs to
be done soon. Laslty remember that you are the pilot in command of your aircraft
unless the examiner advises you otherwise. After we landed my examiner asked
if he could open the door to let some air in and I said no (not until the
engine is safely off) he insisted about 3 more times before the engine shut down
and I continued to tell him no because he was my responsibility. I still
don't know if he was really that hot or he was testing me to this day but I do
know that I have my license and thats because I kept each situation controlable.
ahhhh!
h sorry
if that drug on but it will be one of the best feelings in your life once you pass
and you wont be able to resist telling your stories as well GOOD LUCK!
--------
Andrew Lieser
S/N 6-7045
http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser
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| Subject: | XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... |
Anyone interested in a set of XL plans that currently has HDS plans? I have decided
to try and switch my project from a XL to an HDS if anyone wants to swap.
Mainly because I would like the option to go with a smaller engine if I want
to. I do not need my aircraft to be sport pilot certificated and prefer the
HDS to the HD. Please let me know!
--------
Andrew Lieser
S/N 6-7045
http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser
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| Subject: | Re: metallurgical test |
Carlos,
I'm a materials engineer and would like to offer my advice. What you should do
is confirm a) chemical composition and b) mechanical properties. Chemical composition
can be done easily via ICP or OES and your sample is definitely large
enough for either test. The price you listed seemed reasonable - just make
sure the lab gives you actual results and not just a "meets 6061" statement.
You want to know actual weight percent of silicon, magnesium, iron, manganese,
etc.
The more difficult issue for you is mechanical properties.
The 6061-T6 spec calls out yield, tensile, and elongation which are all determined
via a standard tensile test. As you already know, the size of your sample
is too small to perform a tensile test. My opinion is that you should ask for
hardness tests on your unknown sample as well as a known 6061-T6 of the same
thickness. Hardness is not the ideal way to do this - but given your situation
it's the best-possible way.
If chemistry checks out, then go ahead with the hardness tests. If the hardness
results of the known and unknown are similar (I very much doubt they will be
exactly equal) then I'd say you're good to assume your 6061 is indeed T6. I'd
also double check the hardness results of both known and unknown samples versus
"handbook" values for 6061-T6 for added comfort. The hardness tests would
not be definitive proof - but it would be good enough for me if I were in your
shoes.
Hope this helps. Feel free to email me at bcchurch-at-yahoo.com if you have any
questions.
Regards,
Ben
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Ben Church
CH801
Racine, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Light Custom Fairing |
Dave,
I fabricated a fairing for my rudder light in aluminum. Look at the empenage section of my website. http://daniel.dempseyfamily.net
Dan
dvanlanen wrote:
> Has anyone successfully fabricated a rudder light fairing for a 601XL? If so,
do you have any details that you could share? I think I may be going with a
tail light instead of the combo wing tip lights, and I would like to use the
new Kuntzleman round combo tail / strobe light, however the Zenith fiberglass
fairing appears to be a little too small for this light fixture.
> Craig referred me to an example of a 701 with a nice aluminum fairing, but it
was quite large, and I would prefer to keep it as small as possible for the faster
601XL.
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
> Dave Van Lanen
> 601XL finishing tail
>
> From: "Craig Payne"
>
> Subject: rudder light (http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=68177633?KEYS=taillight_fairing?LISTNAME=Zenith?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=18500516212?SHOWBUTTONS=NO)
>
> Date: Feb 22, 2008
>
>
> If you want to save power Kuntzleman has a new LED taillight:
> http://www.kestrobes.com/heads.htm#NEW_ITEM! (http://www.kestrobes.com/heads.htm)
> Also the fiberglass taillight fairing from Zenith is not a great fit for
> some taillights. Others have bent up their own from Al sheet.
> -- Craig
>
> [b]--
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| Subject: | Tool list for the 601HDS |
Hi guys,
I just finished an AOPA article on tools for minor emergencies like a
flat tire, cracked canopy, a dinged wing or prop, belt or electrical
problem. Id started one, but after reading this article I visited
Harbor Freight, ORiellys and Farm and Fleet. The tools, spares, bag,
and rags weigh in at 10lbs. I spent a little over $50.00 for the tools I
didnt have, bought lightest and least costly where possible and only
good wrenches and sockets where necessary. I looked over my motorcycle
tool kit for what constitutes /essential /before hand. It was probably
worth the effort if only for peace of mind. Do "yard-sale" the sockets
and wrenches that don't fit anything on the plane.
TOOL KIT FOR THE 601HDS w/Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tire inner-tube replacement w/valve core and core removal tool.
Tire gage slider type 4-inch
Tube silicone sealant
Spark plug gapping tool
Tube anti-seize
6-inch adjustable wrench
Pliers, long nose, duck bill and wire cutter
Vise grips medium
Hammer, Small (kept in the tie-downs bag)
Screw driver, 4-in-1 combination, flat, Phillips, one right angle
Awl, 6-inch, 0 to 5/16-inch-dia.
Hex wrenches, metric and AS
Torque wrench 3/8-inch max 200 inch-lbs
Feeler gages - set valves
Small open-end wrenches 8mm-19mm
Open-end wrench set 3/8 - -inch
Socket set -inch with medium sockets 1/4-inch thru 3/4-inch
With 3/8 to -inch socket adapter
Spark plug socket 13/16-inch
Batteries 8 pack AA
Flashlight with 2 AA batteries
Voltmeter with continuity tone
Oil Filter wrench strap type with 10-inch x in dia. extension w/tee
Fuses, 3-5-7.5-10-15-20 amp
Tie-ties, 8-inch 12-pc
Duct tape, new 100-inch roll
.032 safety wire x 36-inch coiled
Hand cleaner packets (10)
Rags zip locked bagged shop rags and micro-fiber towels 4-each
3-oz sealed container, 10 washers, cotters 2 bolts, 8 screws, 4 nuts,
24-inches Tefzel 16-ga wire and 2-each common electrical terminals. 1
radiator hose elbow, 1 hose clamp, 1 pump belt.
Nylon Bag with zippers and belted nylon handles, 6 x 6 x 13-inches
Total weight = 10-lbs
Each of you would obviously have only similar requirements, so.........
Anyway, do fly safe guys,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... |
Andrew,
You can certainly switch from the XL to a HDS, but the smaller engine
works against you for the wing area and cross section of the HDS. You
do need at least a 100 hp
engine for the HDS to perform well if you intend passengers and or
multiple fuel tanks. You may meet the LSA performance requirements if
you pay attention to weight and prop pitch combinations and if you are a
scratch builder, because you record the data you find. Otherwise, you
adhere to Zenith numbers that are just a bit the far side of LSA.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Andrewlieser wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a set of XL plans that currently has HDS plans? I have
decided to try and switch my project from a XL to an HDS if anyone wants to swap.
Mainly because I would like the option to go with a smaller engine if I want
to. I do not need my aircraft to be sport pilot certificated and prefer the
HDS to the HD. Please let me know!
>
> --------
> Andrew Lieser
> S/N 6-7045
> http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XL plans trade for HDS plans anyone... |
Andrew, I have to take exception to a couple of Larry's statements. I
have a HDS tail dragger with a 80 hp Rotax 912. It weighs 674 Lbs.
empty. It cruses at 125 mph indicated at max continuous power, verified
by GPS. 118 mph at 75% power, 1100 Lbs. It stalls at 50 mph. If you
build the plane, kit or scratch, the FAA says you are the builder and
you write the POH. I have two leading edge tanks, 20 gal. total, giving
5 hrs duration. The wife and I both have three hour bladders so that is
plenty of fuel. Zenith numbers are theirs, not yours.
Leo Gates
N601Z - CH601HDS TDO
Rotax 912UL
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
> Andrew,
> You can certainly switch from the XL to a HDS, but the smaller engine
> works against you for the wing area and cross section of the HDS. You
> do need at least a 100 hp
> engine for the HDS to perform well if you intend passengers and or
> multiple fuel tanks. You may meet the LSA performance requirements if
> you pay attention to weight and prop pitch combinations and if you are
> a scratch builder, because you record the data you find. Otherwise,
> you adhere to Zenith numbers that are just a bit the far side of LSA.
>
> Good luck,
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
> do not archive
>
> Andrewlieser wrote:
>> <Andrewlieser@gmail.com>
>>
>> Anyone interested in a set of XL plans that currently has HDS plans?
>> I have decided to try and switch my project from a XL to an HDS if
>> anyone wants to swap. Mainly because I would like the option to go
>> with a smaller engine if I want to. I do not need my aircraft to be
>> sport pilot certificated and prefer the HDS to the HD. Please let me
>> know!
>>
>> --------
>> Andrew Lieser
>> S/N 6-7045
>> http://websites.expercraft.com/andrewlieser
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