---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/14/08: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:09 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Iberplanes IGL) 2. 12:55 AM - 601 crash in Australia (Thruster87) 3. 03:44 AM - Re: 601 crash in Australia (Al Hays) 4. 04:04 AM - Re: 601 crash in Australia (Robert Taylor) 5. 04:27 AM - Re: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? (kmccune) 6. 04:34 AM - Re: 601 crash in Australia (GM) 7. 06:18 AM - Chat Room Reminder (George Race) 8. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Juan Vega) 9. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Iberplanes IGL) 10. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Cndmovn) 11. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Iberplanes IGL) 12. 08:50 AM - Re: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? (Gig Giacona) 13. 09:35 AM - Re: Kuntzleman Streamline Combo Nav/Strobe Lights On 601XL (Dave VanLanen) 14. 10:31 AM - Re: XL wing installation (kkinney) 15. 03:14 PM - Re: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? (Bill Naumuk) 16. 03:52 PM - Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats (kmccune) 17. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats (Craig Payne) 18. 06:26 PM - Re: Kuntzleman Streamline Combo Nav/Strobe Lights On 601XL (Ron Lendon) 19. 07:37 PM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (george may) 20. 08:12 PM - Re: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats (Ashcraft, Keith - AES) 21. 09:02 PM - Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Sabrina) 22. 10:12 PM - Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (lwhitlow) 23. 10:45 PM - Re: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 (Jay Maynard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:58 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 Hey Juan, Where is your serial number attached to your post? the same for the rest of the guys who wrongly accused us to spread crap around? Now you know my number is 6-7011, which is yours? give the example and remember to be respectful with people who post their concerns, I=B4m sure o ur Aussie friend have not read our previous post. I=B4ve recommended him the Z BAG list where such a discussion would be appreciated. Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:57 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia From: "Thruster87" TWO people have been found dead after their ultra light aircraft crashed into a ridge north of Charters Towers during a two-week Gulf of Carpentaria flying safari. Police located the wreckage of the crashed Zenith Zodiac 601 about 11am after a full-scale two-day air and ground search in north Queensland. Both the pilot and passenger, of Cessnock in New South Wales, are understood to have been killed on impact. Fellow aviators in the club flyout - involving eleven aircraft - were too upset to speak about the loss. Club president Keith Rule told The Courier Mail they had lost two very good friends. He declined to publicly release names of the victims until family have been notified. He said the flying conditions had been perfect and they were at a loss as to what caused the accident Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192610#192610 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:56 AM PST US From: Al Hays Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia This post implies that the accident happened in recent days but does not give any clue as to when it actually happened. I did an internet search and found nothing. Please let us know in what month and year this occurred. I am sure that many others are saddened as I am at the loss of life and grief of friends and family. Al Hays CH701 & 601XL, N701GH and N5892H reserved On Jul 14, 2008, at 3:52 AM, Thruster87 wrote: > > > TWO people have been found dead after their ultra light aircraft > crashed into a ridge north of Charters Towers during a two-week > Gulf of Carpentaria flying safari. > > Police located the wreckage of the crashed Zenith Zodiac 601 about > 11am after a full-scale two-day air and ground search in north > Queensland. > > Both the pilot and passenger, of Cessnock in New South Wales, are > understood to have been killed on impact. > > Fellow aviators in the club flyout - involving eleven aircraft - > were too upset to speak about the loss. > Club president Keith Rule told The Courier Mail they had lost > two very good friends. > > He declined to publicly release names of the victims until family > have been notified. > > He said the flying conditions had been perfect and they were at a > loss as to what caused the accident > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192610#192610 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:01 AM PST US From: Robert Taylor Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia > From: alhays@hickoryhillfarmsheep.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 cras h in Australia> Date: Mon=2C 14 Jul 2008 06:41:36 -0400> To: zenith-list@ma llfarmsheep.com>> > This post implies that the accident happened in recent days but does > not give any clue as to when it actually happened. I did an internet > search and found nothing. Please let us know in what month and year > this occurred. I am sure that many others are saddened as I am at > the loss of life and grief of friends and family.> > Al Hays> CH701 & 601XL =2C N701GH and N5892H reserved> > On Jul 14=2C 2008=2C at 3:52 AM=2C Thrust a@optusnet.com.au>> >> > TWO people have been found dead after their ultra light aircraft > > crashed into a ridge north of Charters Towers during a t wo-week > > Gulf of Carpentaria flying safari.> >> > Police located the wre ckage of the crashed Zenith Zodiac 601 about > > 11am after a full-scale tw o-day air and ground search in north > > Queensland.> >> > Both the pilot a nd passenger=2C of Cessnock in New South Wales=2C are > > understood to hav e been killed on impact.> >> > Fellow aviators in the club flyout - involvi ng eleven aircraft - > > were too upset to speak about the loss.> > Club pr esident Keith Rule told The Courier Mail they had =98=99lost > > two very good friends=99=99.> >> > He declined to publicly re lease names of the victims until family > > have been notified.> >> > He sa id the flying conditions had been perfect and they were at a > > loss as to what caused the accident> >> >> >> >> > Read this topic online here:> >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192610#192610> >> >> >> >> > =============> > > Al check out couriermail.com.a u This crash hapend today. _________________________________________________________________ Want to help Windows Live Messenger plant more Aussie trees? http://livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=443698 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:33 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? From: "kmccune" I like it much better being able to separate airframes. But the cross posting is annoying for the same reason I like it. I do think that it should be structured as as sub lists under the main of Zenith though, it would make searching a just like it was and give you fellas a feeling of wholeness, I guess is the word I'm looking for. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192620#192620 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:10 AM PST US From: GM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia Robert, I googled =98Carpentaria flying safari.=99 And came up with this: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24016156-3102,00.html George _____ From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Taylor Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:59 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia > From: alhays@hickoryhillfarmsheep.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 crash in Australia > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:41:36 -0400 > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > > > This post implies that the accident happened in recent days but does > not give any clue as to when it actually happened. I did an internet > search and found nothing. Please let us know in what month and year > this occurred. I am sure that many others are saddened as I am at > the loss of life and grief of friends and family. > > Al Hays > CH701 & 601XL, N701GH and N5892H reserved > > On Jul 14, 2008, at 3:52 AM, Thruster87 wrote: > > > > > > > TWO people have been found dead after their ultra light aircraft > > crashed into a ridge north of Charters Towers during a two-week > > Gulf of Carpentaria flying safari. > > > > Police located the wreckage of the crashed Zenith Zodiac 601 about > > 11am after a full-scale two-day air and ground search in north > > Queensland. > > > > Both the pilot and passenger, of Cessnock in New South Wales, are > > understood to have been killed on impact. > > > > Fellow aviators in the club flyout - involving eleven aircraft - > > were too upset to speak about the loss. > > Club president Keith Rule told The Courier Mail they had =C3=A2=82=AC=CB=9C=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2lost > > two very good friends=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2. > > > > He declined to publicly release names of the victims until family > > have been notified. > > > > He said the flying conditions had been perfect and they were at a > > loss as to what caused the accident > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192610#192610 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > &g============= > > > Al check out couriermail.com.au This crash hapend today. _____ Click here. Want to help Windows Live Messenger plant more Aussie trees? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:41 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Room Reminder Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX TAXI TESTED ! Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:13 AM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 Alberto, I have an N number, that is all that matters, and that is the point. Keep building, your rudder, and someday when you are done, and flying, then start pointing fingers at why someione's plane crashed. Juan -----Original Message----- >From: Iberplanes IGL >Sent: Jul 14, 2008 3:06 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 > >Hey Juan, > >Where is your serial number attached to your post? the same for the rest of >the guys who wrongly accused us to spread crap around? > >Now you know my number is 6-7011, which is yours? give the example and >remember to be respectful with people who post their concerns, Im sure our >Aussie friend have not read our previous post. Ive recommended him the ZBAG >list where such a discussion would be appreciated. > > >Alberto Martin >www.iberplanes.es >Igualada - Barcelona - Spain > >---------------------------------------------- >Zodiac 601 XL Builder >Serial: 6-7011 > >Tail Kit: Finished >Wings: Not Started >Fuselage: Ordered >Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:43:25 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 Ok, good for you, so go and publish it on your sign, and give a good example, and for your knowledge the accident is NEW and not an old one. OK? -- Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:30 AM PST US From: Cndmovn Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 And the downward spiral of accusations and ill thought out replies begins again....... I knew it was too good to be true that we would have a whole month with only good builder related comments. Sigh. Paul On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Iberplanes IGL wrote: > Ok, good for you, so go and publish it on your sign, and give a good > example, and for your knowledge the accident is NEW and not an old one. OK? > > > -- > Alberto Martin > www.iberplanes.es > Igualada - Barcelona - Spain > > ---------------------------------------------- > Zodiac 601 XL Builder > Serial: 6-7011 > > Tail Kit: Finished > Wings: Not Started > Fuselage: Ordered > Engine: Jabiru 3300 > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:42 AM PST US From: "Iberplanes IGL" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 Mirko, Rick, who is a gentleman, has published a series of 6 issues on the kitplanes magazine where he describes the building process. Thanks to his article, I=B4ve decided to buy a kit and start an XL project. I=B4m building my plane and if there is anything we should know I=B4m pret ty confident that ZAC would let us know. Take care, Alberto Martin www.iberplanes.es Igualada - Barcelona - Spain ---------------------------------------------- Zodiac 601 XL Builder Serial: 6-7011 Tail Kit: Finished Wings: Not Started Fuselage: Ordered Engine: Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:09 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? From: "Gig Giacona" It was a bad idea. I said so when it was asked for and I nothing has changed my mind. -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192664#192664 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:17 AM PST US From: "Dave VanLanen" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Kuntzleman Streamline Combo Nav/Strobe Lights On 601XL Hi Ron, Yes, I understand what you are saying, but I believe it would require modifications to the stock fiberglass wingtips in order to accomplish this. :) Regards, Dave Subject: Re: Kuntzleman Streamline Combo Nav/Strobe Lights On 601XL From: "Ron Lendon" I'm not using the fiberglass wing tips but if it, the light base, protrudes beyond the furthest and highest outboard point of the wingtip, you will have great light coverage. Hope that's clear, I know what I mean anyway, do you? :) -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:05 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XL wing installation From: "kkinney" [quote="n601xs(at)gmail.com"]I'm at the point of installing the wings on my XL and am looking for tips on how others have accomplished this feat. > [b] I'm not claiming to be an expert, but here's how I do it - http://www.instructables.com/id/Installing-Wings-Solo/ Regards, Kevin Kinney Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192678#192678 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:33 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? All- I totally agree with you, Craig. Even prior to the split, the archives were never a way of getting information quickly. In addition, I never know if something got through or a reply wound up on another list. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Payne" Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:12 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? > > Wait till you need to search the archives and have to check in three > places. > :-) > > -- Craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jonaburns > Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 6:41 PM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: Was it such a good idea to split the lists? > > > Since there are not a lot of posts this weekend, and I need something to > do > while waiting for primer to dry, I am going to see what you all think. > > Does it still seem like a good ides to split the zenith lists? > > It seems like there are only a few posts each day, and many are cross > posting to all the groups anyway. Since there is still good info in the > 701/801 list it actually takes much longer to check each list every day. > Even using the digest, there are 3 (or 4 if you get them all) email > covering > largely the same topics. > > Any comments? > > > Jon Burns > Little Elm, TX > 601XL - Working on canopy... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192558#192558 > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:52:40 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats From: "kmccune" Looks fine to me. I am also thinking of this. It is encouraging that you took a stab at it and it turned out pretty nice. I wish Zenith would address this on 701s. Some one at Zenith has to have a family member who can sew upholstery, it would be a great side job for them. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192733#192733 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:06:52 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats Doug Dugger's wife Lori is making 701 seats. Give her a call at Quality Sport Planes. 707-546-6272 http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/ -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kmccune Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats Looks fine to me. I am also thinking of this. It is encouraging that you took a stab at it and it turned out pretty nice. I wish Zenith would address this on 701s. Some one at Zenith has to have a family member who can sew upholstery, it would be a great side job for them. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192733#192733 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:04 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Kuntzleman Streamline Combo Nav/Strobe Lights On 601XL From: "Ron Lendon" Dave, What are the length and width of the base of the light you want to use? What is the length and with of the light mounting base on the wing tip from Zenith? If the base of the wingtip from zenith is short in either direction you can easily build up the areas with more fiberglass. I do recall you saying you have little skills, well here is an opportunity to learn by doing. Most all of this stuff is an improvisation keeping structural integrity and safety foremost in your actions. The light mounting is not a structural part other than it holds the light fixture and deflects air. Give it some thought about how you want it to look, draw it up if you can. There is a lot of satisfaction in in creating and executing your own design changes. Get with your EAA tech consoler and talk it out, I am sure they will have some suggestions and may even show you how to do what you want. I think the EAA motto is "See, Learn, Do". I think you can see what you want, now learn how, then do it. Feel free to ask more questions, -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192756#192756 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:07 PM PST US From: george may Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 No =2Cit would be Spurwink=2C just under Portland airspace From: Flydog1966@aol.comDate: Sun=2C 13 Jul 2008 17:57:24 -0400Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008To: zenith-list@matronics.com In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:16:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C gfmjr_20 @HOTMAIL.COM writes: --flying my Zodiac to a flyin at one of the prettiest grass strips on the c oast of New England. George May Would that be the Yankee Ultralight Flyin at Greenland N=2CH=2C ? do not archive Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in you r area - Check out TourTracker.com! _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM _WL_messenger_072008 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:14 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats From: "Ashcraft, Keith - AES" Also, Lori is the one that makes the canopy covers for the 601. I am wondering if she has thought about making them for the 701 as well. Keith CH701builder -- scratch N 38.9947 W 105.1305 Alt. 9,100' (current location: N 36.145 W 127.673 Alt. 0.00 ) *************************************************************************** ********* -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Craig Payne Sent: Mon 7/14/2008 5:03 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats Doug Dugger's wife Lori is making 701 seats. Give her a call at Quality Sport Planes. 707-546-6272 http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/ -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kmccune Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Hand Sewn Leather Seats Looks fine to me. I am also thinking of this. It is encouraging that you took a stab at it and it turned out pretty nice. I wish Zenith would addres s this on 701s. Some one at Zenith has to have a family member who can sew upholstery, it would be a great side job for them. Kevin -------- Mark Twain: Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192733#192733 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are in tended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr essed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporati on. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the pres ence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any viru s transmitted by this e-mail. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:14 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 From: "Sabrina" Do Not Archive Alberto... Juan does have a serial number, 6-6430. I would not appreciate someone challenging me like that either and may well refuse to respond to a similar demand. Juan has a beautiful airplane and is rightfully proud of it. Wild speculation not only hurts the value of all our airplanes unnecessarily, but it can be very irritating. Sometimes I think it best for novice builders to follow my lead and do more listening than writing until they have at least one bird in the air. I followed this list a couple of years before posting much of anything. I could not have built my plane without it. There are so many great builders out there that we rarely hear from any more. I hope we are not driving them away. Those overly concerned about the design should hold off such discussion at least until after Air Venture and our one on one and group discussions with Zenith. Again, I want to thank the list--hope to meet you all at the Zenith dinner. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192789#192789 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:25 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 From: "lwhitlow" Sabrina wrote: > Do Not Archive > > Alberto... Juan does have a serial number, 6-6430. I would not appreciate someone challenging me like that either and may well refuse to respond to a similar demand. Juan has a beautiful airplane and is rightfully proud of it. Wild speculation not only hurts the value of all our airplanes unnecessarily, but it can be very irritating. Sometimes I think it best for novice builders to follow my lead and do more listening than writing until they have at least one bird in the air. I followed this list a couple of years before posting much of anything. I could not have built my plane without it. There are so many great builders out there that we rarely hear from any more. I hope we are not driving them away. > > Those overly concerned about the design should hold off such discussion at least until after Air Venture and our one on one and group discussions with Zenith. > > Again, I want to thank the list--hope to meet you all at the Zenith dinner. I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed that the youngest member of the list and the 601 builder community, is also apparently the wisest??? Sabrina, Whatever you decide to do for a career, let me know. I'm gonna buy stock in that company. You will make a difference. You are an impressive young lady, and a number of us could do well to take a lesson on how to act, and how to build airplanes at the same time Looking forward to great things from you :D Larry Whitlow 601XL (yes I have a sn its 6-4507) 73% done 51.24% to go Valparaiso IN (really close to Chicago) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=192793#192793 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:17 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL Wing Failure 4/7/2008 On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:59:13PM -0700, Sabrina wrote: > Those overly concerned about the design should hold off such discussion at > least until after Air Venture and our one on one and group discussions > with Zenith. Do you know something the rest of us don't in this area? Not everyone will be able to make OSH, after all... -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) 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