---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/20/08: 29 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:20 AM - Re: XL canopy open (chris Sinfield) 2. 05:34 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race) 3. 06:05 AM - Canopy Latch (BobbyPaulk@comcast.net) 4. 07:23 AM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Debo Cox) 5. 07:53 AM - Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom (Mark Colbeck) 6. 08:33 AM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Bill Naumuk) 7. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: Fuels (Jeyoung65@aol.com) 8. 09:43 AM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (ROBERT SCEPPA) 9. 10:42 AM - cutting long pieces of aluminum (Darrell Haas) 10. 10:51 AM - Re: Re: XL canopy open (Juan Vega) 11. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom (Gary Ray) 12. 12:11 PM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (TxDave) 13. 02:56 PM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Thruster87) 14. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: XL canopy open (Jay Maynard) 15. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: XL canopy open (Bryan Martin) 16. 03:56 PM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (John Brumpton) 17. 03:56 PM - Re: Re: XL canopy open (Jay Maynard) 18. 04:02 PM - Re: Canopy Latch (Gig Giacona) 19. 04:16 PM - Re: XL canopy open (Ron Lendon) 20. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Latch (Jay Maynard) 21. 04:21 PM - Re: Re: XL canopy open (Jay Maynard) 22. 04:31 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Latch (Craig Payne) 23. 04:41 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Latch (Jay Maynard) 24. 05:18 PM - Re: helping kids build a plane (Sabrina) 25. 05:48 PM - Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom (Mark Colbeck) 26. 06:27 PM - Re: Re: Canopy Latch (Southern Reflections) 27. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Bill Naumuk) 28. 07:01 PM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Bill Naumuk) 29. 07:19 PM - Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:04 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open From: "chris Sinfield" Thanks Jay for the update. Well yes I spoke to the Factory 2 days ago and asked about the new canopy latching system and there should be Mod kits available after next month. I suggested to them that they make the plans available for free as a good will gesture as the canopy locking system appears to have been troublesome since concept. People can still buy the parts from Zenith if they want to.. bit of give and take.. We will see what happens.. if enough people suggest that to them at the BBQ or air show it may just happen. Chris.. just building the canopy now.. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193890#193890 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:45 AM PST US From: "George Race" Subject: Zenith-List: Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX Flight Ready Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:13 AM PST US From: BobbyPaulk@comcast.net Subject: Zenith-List: Canopy Latch the new 601 XL's manufactured by AMD in Eastman, GA. are using the new latching mechanism between the seats at the rear of the console. it is much more positive and less likely to be left partly latched. if i were in the build stage i would definitely change to it. bobby N131BP DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:32 AM PST US From: Debo Cox Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Hey Darrell, Like everyone else has said, the Olfa knife is the way to go. My only additional comment is about the straightedge itself. Your local Ace Hardware sells long pieces (8-10 feet) of aluminum flat stock for home improvement projects that make a great straightedge. The one I use is about 1/8" thick by 1-1/4". It works great and can be clamped along the table edge to keep your cuts nice and straight. Make sure you mark it so it doesn't get confused with your regular 6061 stock. I don't know what alloy it is, but it's different. Hope this helps. Debo Cox Nags Head, NC Scratchbuilt XL/Corvair www.mykitlog.com/debo --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Darrell Haas wrote: > From: Darrell Haas > Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:14 PM > After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to > work on my 601XL. > What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of > aluminum like your nose > piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make > the edges ripple. > Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the > operator. Any advice? > > Darrell Haas > 601 XL, fuse and rudder > N723DD > do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:57 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom From: "Mark Colbeck" Thanks for the responses. I have gone with just the XCOM and no separate intercom. I have it all hooked up and can receive as I hear the guys flying above but my intercom is not working. I cant hear myself or music input???? Any suggestions? I have gone through the wiring again and it looks fine. When I hit the PTT you can hear it transmit (sounds that way) but I still cannot hear myself. -------- CH701 70% Complete www.mykitlog.com/mcolbeck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193917#193917 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:51 AM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Darryl- Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do. Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272). It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge: http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35&Id=58 -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Haas Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:14 PM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice? Darrell Haas 601 XL, fuse and rudder N723DD do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:39 AM PST US From: Jeyoung65@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Fuels Thanks for the information. Not what I wanted to hear, BUT is what I was afraid of. Jerry of Ga In a message dated 7/19/2008 4:25:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bryanmmartin@comcast.net writes: A little bit of water will dissolve in the gasohol. A little bit more will cause the water/alcohol mixture to settle out, leaving a lower octane gasoline floating above it. I don't know exactly how much water it takes to initiate the separation but I do know that 10 percent water mixed with E10 will do it. This is the standard test for ethanol in gasoline. I suspect it takes a whole lot less than 10% water to cause the separation. So any water in the station's tank will either end up in your gas tank or it will settle out on the bottom of their tank along with the alcohol and you will be filling up with low octane gas. In either case, it won't do good things to your engine. On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:58 PM, _Jeyoung65@aol.com_ (mailto:Jeyoung65@aol.com) wrote: What will happen if the service station has water in it (most do) and the fuel has ethanol in it, how much water will the 10% ethanol absorb? Will this amount of water and ethanol cause a problem with engine operation? Jerry of Ga In a message dated 7/18/2008 4:02:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _amyvega2005@earthlink.net_ (mailto:amyvega2005@earthlink.net) writes: (mailto:amyvega2005@earthlink.net) > I Ethanol mixes with water, why could you not pour Water into fuel with Ethanol and leach the alcohol out of the fuel? It goes with the thought that the way to check for Ethanol is to add water to fuel in a marked fuel beaker and check after time if the level of water increased, indicating Ethonal in Fuel. Juan -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:53 AM PST US From: ROBERT SCEPPA Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum > I don't use those aviation snips, all you need is the straight snips > supplied at either True Value hardware or Home Depot. They work better. > Do not archive --- On Sun, 7/20/08, Darrell Haas wrote: > From: Darrell Haas > Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 3:14 AM > After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to > work on my 601XL. > What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of > aluminum like your nose > piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make > the edges ripple. > Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the > operator. Any advice? > > Darrell Haas > 601 XL, fuse and rudder > N723DD > do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:33 AM PST US From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long pieces of aluminum This list is great! Thank you all for your advice. I officially feel like a real builder now that I have my first piece to start my *junk* or *oops*pile. Darrell Haas 601 XL N723DD ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:51:45 AM PST US From: Juan Vega Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open Chris, Its a nice idea to recommend that they offer the new latch, however some of us builders have had no issues with the existing latch system, and it is contrary to your statement that the latch has been troublesome since concept. I think if it is built and operated correctly, it does the jopb well. If it is an item that I forgot to check before take off, or did a hurried job in building the plane, I have no one to blame but myself. The new system gives options to those that want the option. Juan -----Original Message----- >From: chris Sinfield >Sent: Jul 20, 2008 3:17 AM >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open > > >Thanks Jay for the update. > >Well yes I spoke to the Factory 2 days ago and asked about the new canopy latching system and there should be Mod kits available after next month. >I suggested to them that they make the plans available for free as a good will gesture as the canopy locking system appears to have been troublesome since concept. > >People can still buy the parts from Zenith if they want to.. bit of give and take.. >We will see what happens.. if enough people suggest that to them at the BBQ or air show it may just happen. >Chris.. >just building the canopy now.. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193890#193890 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:56 AM PST US From: "Gary Ray" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom Mark Have you Used the 'Mode' button to set up the intercom volume and intercom squelch and Pilot feedback. Also there is also a dedicated switch for On, Off, Isolate. Gary Ray davgray@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Colbeck" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:51 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom > > > Thanks for the responses. I have gone with just the XCOM and no separate > intercom. I have it all hooked up and can receive as I hear the guys > flying above but my intercom is not working. I cant hear myself or music > input???? Any suggestions? I have gone through the wiring again and it > looks fine. When I hit the PTT you can hear it transmit (sounds that way) > but I still cannot hear myself. > > -------- > CH701 > 70% Complete > > www.mykitlog.com/mcolbec ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:11:36 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum From: "TxDave" Bill, What is this great little deburring tool of which you speak? I went to Home Depot's web site and found nothing using the sku number you listed. Dave Clay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193963#193963 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:16 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum From: "Thruster87" A cheap edge de-burring tool can be made by grinding a small V on the side of a hack saw blade or similar.When you pull it at approx 90deg to the edge it chamfers both edges at the same time.If you are keen you can then 320 wet/dry rub it. Cheers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193989#193989 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:19 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 04:50:29PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote: > What Gig didn't mention, but a quick look at my airplane will tell you, is > that mine has the old-style canopy but the new-style canopy latch. I like it > a heck of a lot: as Gig says, it has a lot fewer failure modes. For the curious, I just posted pictures to http://www.conmicro.com/amd-v2-latch/ . -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:10 PM PST US From: Bryan Martin Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open What's all that hardware made of? It must be a whole lot heavier than the old latching system. > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 04:50:29PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote: >> What Gig didn't mention, but a quick look at my airplane will tell >> you, is >> that mine has the old-style canopy but the new-style canopy latch. >> I like it >> a heck of a lot: as Gig says, it has a lot fewer failure modes. > > For the curious, I just posted pictures to > http://www.conmicro.com/amd-v2-latch/ . > -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:54 PM PST US From: "John Brumpton" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Hi Bill Could you post a picture of the edge deburring device Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Darryl- Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do. Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272). It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge: http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35&Id=58 -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Haas Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:14 PM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice? Darrell Haas 601 XL, fuse and rudder N723DD do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ NOD32 3282 (20080719) Information __________ ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:55 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 06:22:26PM -0400, Bryan Martin wrote: > What's all that hardware made of? It must be a whole lot heavier than > the old latching system. Good question, and I'm not the right guy to ask. My guess would be steel; it feels heavier than aluminum, and you'd want steel at least on the hook and bolt for wear resistance. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:39 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch From: "Gig Giacona" Don't get me wrong, I like the new design better than the design I have with the cables. But after looking at Jay's I don't think it is any less likely than our to have one side unlatched, though you can see that it is unlatched a little easier. The plus with it is the lack of those cables that I have little doubt will leave me latched in the plane sooner or later. BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net wrote: > the new 601 XL's manufactured by AMD in Eastman, GA. are using the new latching mechanism between the seats at the rear of the console. it is much more positive and less likely to be left partly latched. if i were in the build stage i would definitely change to it. > > bobby > N131BP > > DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- W.R. "Gig" Giacona 601XL Under Construction See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194000#194000 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:07 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open From: "Ron Lendon" Thanks for the pictures Jay. Use a magnet to determine what is steel. High grade stainless won't hold a magnet and neither will aluminum. -------- Ron Lendon, Clinton Township, MI Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder ;-) http://www.mykitlog.com/rlendon Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194002#194002 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:17 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:00:12PM -0700, Gig Giacona wrote: > Don't get me wrong, I like the new design better than the design I have > with the cables. But after looking at Jay's I don't think it is any less > likely than our to have one side unlatched, though you can see that it is > unlatched a little easier. I'm not sure I buy that at all. To have one side latched and one side unlatched would require seriously deforming the canopy frame, either by twisting or else stretching to the side - and to get the hook on the outside of the bolt head would require a major effort to pull the latch closed, something that would be immediately noticeable. I do think the ability to easily confirm proper latch engagement visually or by touch is a major advantage, since that's a lot harder with the old design. Basically, the relevant checklist item becomes "Canopy - latch and verify". > The plus with it is the lack of those cables that I have little doubt will > leave me latched in the plane sooner or later. I'd suspect that the cable tension is one of those things that needs to be checked at annual. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:06 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: XL canopy open On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:13:30PM -0700, Ron Lendon wrote: > Use a magnet to determine what is steel. High grade stainless won't hold > a magnet and neither will aluminum. Okkay, I'll try that next time I'm next to the airplane - though that'll be this coming Friday afternoon at the earliest. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:49 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch Jay, what keeps you from bumping the center knob with your elbow and opening the canopy in flight? Is the spring strong enough to make that unlikely? -- Craig ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:04 PM PST US From: Jay Maynard Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 05:28:32PM -0600, Craig Payne wrote: > Jay, what keeps you from bumping the center knob with your elbow and opening > the canopy in flight? Is the spring strong enough to make that unlikely? Between that, and the fully-locked position being low enough that you're not likely to get your elbow underneath it, and the fact that there's some friction as the hooks engage, I seriously doubt it'd be an issue. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!) ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:23 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: helping kids build a plane From: "Sabrina" Hello Juan, I was asked today how your Zenith build mentoring project was going. How far along are you guys? Will Captain Irving be flying it to Air Venture? Sounds like a perfect high school project... Sabrina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194024#194024 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:30 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Re: XCOM radio and seperate intercom From: "Mark Colbeck" Gary thanks. I havent yet put the switch in as I was hoping I would not need it with only 2 people in the plane. I will put it in and see if that is the issue. Probably wont work unless the switch is in i guess. Thanks ' -------- CH701 70% Complete www.mykitlog.com/mcolbeck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194033#194033 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:39 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch Has any one seen the latch in the new Sportcruiser? Real good idea! Sound 's about like what you're talking about.. I flew in one this morning very nice plane and very nice latching system.. simple ,to the point,and positive Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gig Giacona" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Canopy Latch > > Don't get me wrong, I like the new design better than the design I have > with the cables. But after looking at Jay's I don't think it is any less > likely than our to have one side unlatched, though you can see that it is > unlatched a little easier. > > The plus with it is the lack of those cables that I have little doubt will > leave me latched in the plane sooner or later. > > > BobbyPaulk(at)comcast.net wrote: >> the new 601 XL's manufactured by AMD in Eastman, GA. are using the new >> latching mechanism between the seats at the rear of the console. it is >> much more positive and less likely to be left partly latched. if i were >> in the build stage i would definitely change to it. >> >> bobby >> N131BP >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > -------- > W.R. "Gig" Giacona > 601XL Under Construction > See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194000#194000 > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:00:01 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum Dave- http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=100166541&navFlow=3&keyword=deburring+tools&langId=-1&searchRedirect=deburring+tools&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.catalog.beans.EndecaDataBean%401aaf2560&ddkey=Search Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "TxDave" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: cutting long cuts of aluminum > > Bill, > > What is this great little deburring tool of which you speak? I went to > Home Depot's web site and found nothing using the sku number you listed. > > Dave Clay > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=193963#193963 > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:18 PM PST US From: "Bill Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum All- http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStor eDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=100166541&navFlow=3&keyword= deburring+tool&langId=-1&searchRedirect=deburring+tool&storeId=1005 1&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.catalog.beans.EndecaDataBean%40 5294e420&ddkey=Search Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: John Brumpton To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Hi Bill Could you post a picture of the edge deburring device Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Darryl- Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do. Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272). It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge: http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35&Id=58 -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Haas Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:14 PM To: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice? Darrell Haas 601 XL, fuse and rudder N723DD do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c __________ NOD32 3282 (20080719) Information __________ ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:03 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum I find that you have to enter your zip code before the Home Depot site will let you do anything. Anyway I've attached a picture of SKU# 639272. Other vendors carry it too. It's the one with the hollow yellow handle and the dog-leg tip where the different size tips store in the handle. Here is a link to what looks like the same tool on the Avery site: http://www.averytools.com/pc-74-43-royal-multi-burr-tool.aspx -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum All- http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDi r=hdus &catalogId=10053&productId=100166541&navFlow=3&keyword=deburring+tool&langId =-1&searchRedirect=deburring+tool&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot .sa.el.wc.catalog.beans.EndecaDataBean%405294e420&ddkey=Search Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: John Brumpton Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Hi Bill Could you post a picture of the edge deburring device Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Naumuk Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Darryl- Two thumbs up for the Olfa. Make sure you get the 800, nothing else will do. Also found a great edge deburring device from Home Depot for less than $7 US (SKU 639272). It's a little late in the game for me; I could have saved from 30-40 hours had I known about both tools from the get-go. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum Have you tried doing a first cut about a quarter of an inch out from the final line and then doing a final cut along the line. Also if you are doing a long straight cut try the Olfa P-800 knife and a straight edge: http://www.ch601.org/tools/olfa.htm http://www.olfa.com/UtilityKnivesDetail.aspx?C=35 &Id=58 -- Craig From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Haas Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Zenith-List: cutting long cuts of aluminum After the Arlington Fly-in I'm pumped to get back to work on my 601XL. What's the easiest way to cut the long sheets of aluminum like your nose piece on the rudder? The aviation tin snips seem to make the edges ripple. Of course it might not be the snips. It could be the operator. Any advice? 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