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1. 05:36 AM - Re: steam gauges (Jay Maynard)
2. 05:54 AM - iN FLIGHT ADJUSTABLE PROP (carl)
3. 05:56 AM - mt and cowl (Bill Flick)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: steam gauges (Gig Giacona)
5. 06:26 AM - Central Oregon Air Show (LHusky@aol.com)
6. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: steam gauges (Jay Maynard)
7. 07:35 AM - Re: Altimeters (John Goodings)
8. 08:20 AM - 701 for sale (Flydog1966@aol.com)
9. 08:26 AM - Re: Altimeters (Gig Giacona)
10. 09:51 AM - Backup steam gauges (john butterfield)
11. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: Altimeters (Bill Steer)
12. 10:50 AM - Re: Bright screen on Dynon D-180 (J.T. Machin)
13. 12:59 PM - Re: steam gauges (Iberplanes IGL)
14. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Altimeters (Iberplanes IGL)
15. 01:25 PM - Re: steam gauges (Jay Maynard)
16. 01:47 PM - Oshkosh (Pete Krotje)
17. 02:03 PM - Re: steam gauges (Juan Vega)
18. 03:15 PM - Re: steam gauges (Jay Maynard)
19. 08:35 PM - Re: steam gauges (Juan Vega)
20. 08:35 PM - Re: steam gauges (Juan Vega)
21. 08:35 PM - Re: steam gauges (Juan Vega)
22. 09:18 PM - Re: steam gauges (Jay Maynard)
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:58:53PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:20:42PM +0200, Iberplanes IGL wrote:
> > What brands and types are AMD using on their certified XL? Anyone knows, are
> > electrical or vacuum ?
> AMD does not use vacuum gyro instruments, just electric ones. I don't know
> the make and model off the top of my head. I'll look at the book later to
> see if they're listed.
Couldn't find them in any of the books. Sorry.
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Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | iN FLIGHT ADJUSTABLE PROP |
Thanks to all who answered my post for info on subject. I'm going to Osh
better prepared to look at what is available.
Hope to meet some of you.
Do not archive
Carl
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still need a used cowl and mt for a ea-81 subaru into a 601 hds. thanks
ralph
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
[quote="jmaynard"]On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:58:53PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
Couldn't find them in any of the books. Sorry.
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Jay, if they are Falcon you will know soon enough.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Central Oregon Air Show |
We are having our Central Oregon Air Show coming up the 22nd and 23rd of
August. I would love to see some Zeniths at the show. It is going to be a
really good show. I am hoping to have my XL there next year. I hope there are
some local Zenith planes that can make this show.
Larry Husky
Madras, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 06:16:47AM -0700, Gig Giacona wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:58:53PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
> >Couldn't find them in any of the books. Sorry.
> Jay, if they are Falcon you will know soon enough.
They're not; I looked at them when AMD had the panel open. After looking at
the Aircraft Spruce catalog online, I think they're RC Allen RCA26-AK1 AI,
RC Allen RCA15AK-1 DG, a United Instruments VSI, and I think a United
altimeter as well. Can't tell about the TC or airspeed gauge.
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Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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My Falcon sensitive altimeter has behaved perfectly from the beginning.
It has now been in operation for more than 3 years.
John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Ottawa.
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I have a very nearly complete 701 fuselage I'd like to sell. Includes nose
gear strut,rudder pedals,control stick ,flap handle,flap control,etc all
installed.
When I installed the gear/strut pick-up I found the wing strut will not
line up with the wing attach point. So
I figured I'd make new ones with the correct angle(plans were wrong) but
find I just can not make the bolt holes in the new ones line up with the
existing holes in the fuselage.Nor can I go oversize bolts and maintain the 2X
edge
distance.
I've abandoned this project and will sell it for $1,000. That's right, an
assembled fuselage for less than the price of materials ! Fix this and its
ready to go on the gear, and add wings.
Its located in Westford Ma. Sorry, no pics.
Tried to sign up for the new 701 list but had no luck, feel free to cross
post.
do not archive
Phil Day
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You are truly blessed. I know of 9 different Falcon instruments installed in 5
different planes and all but 1 instrument failed in less than a year.
goodings(at)yorku.ca wrote:
> My Falcon sensitive altimeter has behaved perfectly from the beginning.
> It has now been in operation for more than 3 years.
>
> John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Ottawa.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194716#194716
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| Subject: | Backup steam gauges |
Hi list
Read Bill Naumuk's comments this morning re back up
alt and ASI. I am using the MGL glass panel for my
machine and suggest you look at an Angle of Attack
system for your backups. It gives you what you need
as to flying the plane. If your IFR, and lose
everything, an additional altimeter will be almost
useless anyway. Also, they make pretty good watches
that will give you altimeter and heading readings.
Just a thought.
John Butterfield
XL, Corvair
torrance, CA
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Mine's not even off the ground yet, but I've to reset the Kollsman window
twice on it. Sometimes it jumps thousands of feet in equivalent altitude
for a given barometic setting.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gig Giacona" <wrgiacona@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:23 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Altimeters
>
> You are truly blessed. I know of 9 different Falcon instruments installed
> in 5 different planes and all but 1 instrument failed in less than a year.
>
>
> goodings(at)yorku.ca wrote:
>> My Falcon sensitive altimeter has behaved perfectly from the beginning.
>> It has now been in operation for more than 3 years.
>>
>> John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Ottawa.
>
>
> --------
> W.R. "Gig" Giacona
> 601XL Under Construction
> See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=194716#194716
>
>
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> 6:59 AM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bright screen on Dynon D-180 |
Thanks for the info, unfortunately I already sent the unit back for the upg
rade, oh well I suppose it can't hurt.
Jim
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ashley <ashleyw@gvtc.com> wrote:
From: Ashley <ashleyw@gvtc.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Bright screen on Dynon D-180
I just got mine back with the Bright screen.-
I also installed a D10A normal screen.
On today's flight (first on the new screen), I did
not really notice any difference between the screens.
So, would I do it again? Probably not.
-
Floyd Wilkes
601XL O-200A
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----- Original Message -----
From:
J.T.
Machin
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 12:17
PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Bright screen on
Dynon D-180
I am sending in by D-180 for service and I was
considering upgrading the screen.- Does anyone have an opinion on
whether or not the upgrade is needed or worth the expense when used
in a
Zodiac?-
Jim Machin
601 Xl Quickbuild,
0-200
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
Thanks Jay,
Electric are better than the vacuum, that=B4s why they are so expensive.
2008/7/24 Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>:
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:58:53PM -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:20:42PM +0200, Iberplanes IGL wrote:
> > > What brands and types are AMD using on their certified XL? Anyone
> knows, are
> > > electrical or vacuum ?
> > AMD does not use vacuum gyro instruments, just electric ones. I don't
> know
> > the make and model off the top of my head. I'll look at the book later
to
> > see if they're listed.
>
> Couldn't find them in any of the books. Sorry.
> --
> Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
> http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
> Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
> AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
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>
>
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
----------------------------------------------
Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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What about RC Allen? Is it considered a reliable brand?
2008/7/24 John Goodings <goodings@yorku.ca>:
>
> My Falcon sensitive altimeter has behaved perfectly from the beginning. It
> has now been in operation for more than 3 years.
>
> John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Carp/Ottawa/Ottawa.
>
>
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
----------------------------------------------
Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:56:09PM +0200, Iberplanes IGL wrote:
> Electric are better than the vacuum, that?s why they are so expensive.
I'll second that. I'm REALLY happy that my airplane has no vacuum pump. Even
the weight of the backup instrument battery is small price to pay for that,
and it's not all that heavy.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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Hi All (or now that I've been in Tennessee for 3.5 years- Hi Y'all)
Jabiru USA will be minimally staffed from Friday July 25th through Monday
August 4th as most of us will be at the Oshkosh Airventure show. We will be
checking our email, though, so if you need to get us a message please email
info@usjabiru.com
Visit us at the show in the North Aircraft Display - booth 410 & 411.
Pete Krotje
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, LLC
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
Actually if you compare electronic versus the price of a standard six pack vaccuum
system. Elctronic kicks its butt in pricing. A dynon EFIS system is almost
half the price of the standrd Vac guages including Art. Horizon. Less maintenance
as well.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
>Sent: Jul 24, 2008 4:22 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: steam gauges
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:56:09PM +0200, Iberplanes IGL wrote:
>> Electric are better than the vacuum, that?s why they are so expensive.
>
>I'll second that. I'm REALLY happy that my airplane has no vacuum pump. Even
>the weight of the backup instrument battery is small price to pay for that,
>and it's not all that heavy.
>--
>Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
>http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
>Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
>AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Juan Vega wrote:
> Actually if you compare electronic versus the price of a standard six pack
> vaccuum system. Elctronic kicks its butt in pricing. A dynon EFIS system
> is almost half the price of the standrd Vac guages including Art. Horizon.
> Less maintenance as well.
Compare apples to apples. The Dynon is not TSOd. TSOd glass panels are a lot
more expensive.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
WHo gives a ^%$#^ bout TSO. TSO means pay out the ass for licensing that does
not make anything safer. If it can go in the Rutan Rocket ship, its good enough
for some rincky dinky EAB at 110 mph in my eyes.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
>Sent: Jul 24, 2008 6:11 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: steam gauges
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Juan Vega wrote:
>> Actually if you compare electronic versus the price of a standard six pack
>> vaccuum system. Elctronic kicks its butt in pricing. A dynon EFIS system
>> is almost half the price of the standrd Vac guages including Art. Horizon.
>> Less maintenance as well.
>
>Compare apples to apples. The Dynon is not TSOd. TSOd glass panels are a lot
>more expensive.
>--
>Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
>http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
>Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
>AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
WHo gives a ^%$#^ bout TSO. TSO means pay out the ass for licensing that does
not make anything safer. If it can go in the Rutan Rocket ship, its good enough
for some rincky dinky EAB at 110 mph in my eyes.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
>Sent: Jul 24, 2008 6:11 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: steam gauges
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Juan Vega wrote:
>> Actually if you compare electronic versus the price of a standard six pack
>> vaccuum system. Elctronic kicks its butt in pricing. A dynon EFIS system
>> is almost half the price of the standrd Vac guages including Art. Horizon.
>> Less maintenance as well.
>
>Compare apples to apples. The Dynon is not TSOd. TSOd glass panels are a lot
>more expensive.
>--
>Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
>http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
>Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
>AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
WHo gives a ^%$#^ bout TSO. TSO means pay out the ass for licensing that does
not make anything safer. If it can go in the Rutan Rocket ship, its good enough
for some rincky dinky EAB at 110 mph in my eyes.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jay Maynard <jmaynard@conmicro.com>
>Sent: Jul 24, 2008 6:11 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: steam gauges
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Juan Vega wrote:
>> Actually if you compare electronic versus the price of a standard six pack
>> vaccuum system. Elctronic kicks its butt in pricing. A dynon EFIS system
>> is almost half the price of the standrd Vac guages including Art. Horizon.
>> Less maintenance as well.
>
>Compare apples to apples. The Dynon is not TSOd. TSOd glass panels are a lot
>more expensive.
>--
>Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
>http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
>Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
>AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: steam gauges |
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:28:45PM -0400, Juan Vega wrote:
> WHo gives a ^%$#^ bout TSO. TSO means pay out the ass for licensing that
> does not make anything safer.
TSO also means, for a factory built aircraft, "legal for IFR" for the
primary flight instruments. That is why I went with steam gauges instead of
a Dynon. It alo means that comparing costs is not apples-to-apples.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (got it!)
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