Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/27/08


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:10 AM - Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters" (George Race)
     2. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: fuel guages 301-020 (Carlos Sa)
     3. 08:07 AM - Re: ch601 hds BUNGEE HELP!!! (Klaus Truemper)
     4. 10:50 AM - New STOL CH750 announcement (Jon Croke)
     5. 01:05 PM - Re: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!! (jeyoung65@aol.com)
     6. 03:25 PM - Re: New STOL CH750 announcement (ihab.awad@gmail.com)
     7. 04:48 PM - Re: [Probable Spam] Re: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!! (LarryMcFarland)
     8. 05:04 PM - CH 650 LS (Jeff)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:10:49 AM PST US
    From: "George Race" <mykitairplane@mrrace.com>
    Subject: Chat Room Reminder For "Digesters"
    Please join us for our Monday evening chat room starting around 8:00 PM Eastern Time. <http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/> http://www.mykitairplane.com/chat/ George CH-701 - N73EX Flight Ready Do Not Archive


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    Time: 07:38:36 AM PST US
    From: "Carlos Sa" <carlossa52@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: fuel guages 301-020
    I can endorse Dave's words. Carlos do not archive 2008/7/27 TxDave <dclaytx2@hotmail.com> > > I purchased my gauges and matching sending units from egauges.com. Great > service and reasonable prices. > > Dave Clay > Temple, TX > >


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    Time: 08:07:32 AM PST US
    From: Klaus Truemper <klaus@utdallas.edu>
    Subject: Re: ch601 hds BUNGEE HELP!!!
    Hi Roger, While the plane is on the ground, you can remove the top cap since it will not be at the stop. You can also remove the bolts under that wing, holding the gear in place, assuming that you have already disconnected the brake line. Now when you slowly raise the wing with a jack, the gear will come out of the gear box. The reverse process is more difficult, since the bungees preload the gear, and the bungees must be stretched if the gear tube is to stick out a bit above the wing. There are two ways to do this. First, you can use longer bolts with the top retaining cap and gradually pull up the tube from the top. When you cannot turn the bolts any more, you lower the wing so that the weight of the plane holds the gear up, remove one bolt at a time and add washers, and repeat the process until you have pulled up the tube to add the retaining plate with the originial bolts. Another solution that makes subsequent bungee changes really easy, is described on the page http://utdallas.edu/~klaus/Airplane/gear_stop_by_bolt.html Happy flying, Klaus


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    Time: 10:50:50 AM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: New STOL CH750 announcement
    The new STOL CH750 has been announced... at www.zenair.org is the link for full info (and photo of production aircraft)... Will try to get more photos from Osh soon for the website.! do not archive


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    Time: 01:05:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!!
    From: jeyoung65@aol.com
    Larry, Not sure you have not already covered this BUT I am having one BIG jo b trying to install the nuts on the top bolts that goes through the angles o n the wing bottom. Have though about removing the gears and installing nut p lates. Cann't see or feel the bolts. How did you do it? Thanks Jerry of Ga. -----Original Message----- From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:58 pm Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!! =C2- =C2- Hi Roger,=C2- I've a gear page for the 601HDS that probably will help you with disassembly and replacement=C2- of the main gear bungees. I'd do just one side at at time.=C2- The principal issue is placing a jack-stand at splice plates. Remove the mai n wheel, disconnect brake lines=C2- and then unbolt front and rear gearbox bolts. Remove the top gear cap and bo lts on top the wing.=C2- Then slide the whole gear with box and bungee from the angles. Remove tie-ti es and the bungees.=C2- =C2- See link www.macsmachine.com/html/gear.htm=C2- =C2- Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com=C2- =C2- Roger & Lina Hill wrote:=C2- >=C2- > Howdy all;=C2- >=C2- > I am confused on the installation of the main gear bungee, and I was > hop ing you guys could help.=C2- >=C2- > I purchased an older 601 HDS and installed a new engine (Great Plains > VW with water cooled heads)=C2- >=C2- > Well the bungee gear was old and sagging, so I ordered new bungee. I > replaced the nose bungee, but=C2- >=C2- > just stopped and scratched my head on the main gear bungee.=C2- >=C2- > How do I get to it? It=99s all bolted up in the metal gear box and I > don=99t see how I could get to the bolt=C2- >=C2- > heads to remove the gear box. Am I missing something?=C2- >=C2- > Please email me back if you know the secret to changing main gear > bungee cords on a 601 HDS.=C2- >=C2- > Thanks !!!=C2- >=C2- > Roger Hill=C2- >=C2- > 601SM=C2- >=C2- > *=C2- > *=C2- =C2- =C2- ============C2- ============C2- ============C2- 0you for your generous support!=C2- ============C2- =C2-


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    Time: 03:25:11 PM PST US
    From: ihab.awad@gmail.com
    Subject: Re: New STOL CH750 announcement
    On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jon Croke <Jon@joncroke.com> wrote: > *The new STOL CH750* has been announced... > Wow! Beautiful ship. Love the bubble windshield and large transparent doors. I'm drooling on my keyboard. Please please post every detail you can! Ihab -- Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA


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    Time: 04:48:38 PM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: Re: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!!
    Hi Jerry, The bolts inserted from the outside in is difficult, but you can weld a socket to an "L" handle that will enable the fixed position while turning the head from outside. See tool at the link, http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/gearAW/full/gear-support-nut-holding-wr.gif A perhaps better solution suggested the use of a metal strip that had matching threaded holes that could be found and more easily got to from the outside. Pushing the bungees out of the way is also great fun while putting the nuts in, but I've done this three times and can do it in about 20-minutes now. Larry McFarland jeyoung65@aol.com wrote: > Larry, Not sure you have not already covered this BUT I am having one > BIG job trying to install the nuts on the top bolts that goes through > the angles on the wing bottom. Have though about removing the gears > and installing nut plates. Cann't see or feel the bolts. How did you > do it? Thanks Jerry of Ga. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 7:58 pm > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: ch601 HDS BUNGEE HELP !!!


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    Time: 05:04:25 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff " <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: CH 650 LS
    On the AMD web site I found this: Redesigned in 2008 - the Zodiac CH 650: "The Zodiac CH 601 XL aircraft was redesigned for the Light Sport Aircraft category in 2004. The Zodiac CH 650 LS and LSi are different than the XL. The 650 series incorporates many changes that were made to the 601 series in Europe and around the world. The 650 series incorporates the best of everything. The Most noticeable difference is the canopy and rudder. Other changes includes lowering of the trailing edge of the wings (lowers the nose of the aircraft for better visibility), control changes (more balanced), tougher fuselage (good for flying schools), new canopy latching - locking system (easier to close and open the canopy), and a lot more." The canopy appears to offer some roll-over protection and the rudder is all-flying but looks different. Part of the canopy is fixed in place. Is this new or am I just catching up? Jeff Davidson




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